That Pedal Show - Mid-Scooped & Mid-Pushed Amps: What Do We Mean? Plus: Amp-In-A-Box Pedals Tested

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In this episode we tackle a tricky subject - and indeed our preconceptions - in terms of two particular phrases we use a lot on That Pedal Show: ’mid-scooped’ and mid-pushed’ when it comes to guitar amplifiers.
For example, you may hear us describing the classic Fender sound as having ‘scooped mids’, or the Marshall sound as having ‘pushed mids’. They are terms that have become accepted wisdom… but what do we actually mean?
We demonstrate some key guitar freqeuncies with the help of a graphic equalizer, before moving on to comparisons between a Marshall 1987x (50-watt Plexi), a Vox AC30 and a Fender Super Reverb. As we discover, with the amps in their clean states the differences are nowhere near as pronounced as they are under overdrive from pedals.
The last section of the video concerns ‘amp-in-a-box’ style pedals vis a vis changing the basic character of one amp to sound like another. Can it be done?
Enjoy the video…
Pedals in this episode…
• TheGigRig Three2One
www.thegigrig.com/three2one
• D’Addario Pedal Tuner
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USA: bit.ly/3IRrhPE
Australia: bit.ly/2tfHqHN
• MXR 10-Band EQ
UK: bit.ly/2iCCuw7
USA: bit.ly/3EhAiPx
• Analogman Bad Bob Booster
www.buyanalogman.com/
USA:
• Ibanez TS9 Tube Screamer
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2dvn8Xy
USA: imp.i114863.net/zMRk0
• Fulltone OCD
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USA: imp.i114863.net/W5gLJ
Australia: bit.ly/2qgh9eW
• Catalinbread Dirty Little Secret
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2iIhmz9
USA: bit.ly/3yKq20l
Australia: bit.ly/2B67V5U
• Wampler Thirty Something
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Australia: bit.ly/2ApTMEl
• Empress Echo System
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Australia: bit.ly/2x0K9K7
• Neunaber Immerse
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Australia: bit.ly/2ov7Ztu
• TheGigRig G2
www.thegigrig.com/g2
* Why do we have preferred retailer links? Find out here: www.thatpedalshow.com/partners
Interesting bits and go-to sections…
- Introduction: 00:00
- Today’s amps: 2:10
- What are we doing today? 3:20
- A brief and very sketchy history of Fender amps: 4:15
- Today’s questions: 8:55
- Comparing the basic sounds of the three amps: 9:25
- Key frequencies for guitar demonstrated with a graphic EQ pedal: 16:58
- Can we make the Marshall sound like the Fender just using the EQ? 21:30
- Let’s add some overdrive…: 23:15
- Analogman Bad Bob Booster through the three amps: 25:05
- Ibanez TS9 through all three amps: 26:10
- Fulltone OCD through all three amps: 31:40
- Biffy Clyro? 32:32
- 2-4KHz and overdrive: 36:46
- Amp-in-a-box-pedals: 40:20
- Make the Fender sound like the Marshall using the Catalinbread DLS? 42:45
- Make the Fender sound like the Vox using the Wampler Thirty - Something? 48:10
- What have we learned today? 57:10
Amps in this episode
• Marshall 1987x (50-watt Plexi reissue) through 2061x cab (Celestion G12H Anniversary speakers)
USA That Pedal Shop: bit.ly/3v3Xazc
• 1961 Vox AC30 through 2 x 12-inch Celestion Blue speakers
• Fender Super Reverb (reissue) with 4 x 10-inch Jensen P10R speakers
Guitars in this episode
• Fender American Vintage Stratocaster: watch Mick’s video at bit.ly/2cQv3yT
• Fender Custom Shop 1963 Telecaster: watch Dan’s video at bit.ly/2dlZJ6K
• Duesenberg Bonneville: duesenberg.de/en/guitars/bonn...
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  • @davidwoods80
    @davidwoods806 жыл бұрын

    "Sorry honey, no Christmas for the family this year. Daddy needs two more amps and a 10 band EQ."

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    6 жыл бұрын

    +David Woods hahahah

  • @andtrea.
    @andtrea.6 жыл бұрын

    Please make an episode about Fender amps and their differences, from Bassman to Twin, Deluxe, Neil Young whizzer, etc...

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Andrea Alesi We could do most of that. Neil Young not so much!

  • @andtrea.

    @andtrea.

    6 жыл бұрын

    That Pedal Show lol, no room for the MagnaTone cab I guess ;)

  • @eranmontiel

    @eranmontiel

    6 жыл бұрын

    Andrea Alesi yes, we need this

  • @StephaneBergeronPixelyzed

    @StephaneBergeronPixelyzed

    6 жыл бұрын

    I'd be into that for sure! Tp hear the difference between 60s Blackface, 70s Silverface and 80s-90s "red knobs" Twins would be awesome. I LOVE my 89' Red Knobs Twin :)

  • @midnightmerv3560

    @midnightmerv3560

    6 жыл бұрын

    Isn't Neil youngs electric sound just a completely dimed tweed style amp?

  • @DavidDyte1969
    @DavidDyte19696 жыл бұрын

    Mick, you just get better and better. Never stop.

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    6 жыл бұрын

    +David Dyte Ah man, that’s very kind David. Thank you. Hope you’re all good mate. :0)

  • @DavidDyte1969

    @DavidDyte1969

    6 жыл бұрын

    Very welcome, sir. I'm getting by, practicing hard!

  • @bumblesnowmonster

    @bumblesnowmonster

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yessir!

  • @sashaszlafarski9949
    @sashaszlafarski99496 жыл бұрын

    Dan playing through all three of those amps at once will forever go down as one of the greatest moments of this show. Balls to the walls inspirational playing.

  • @Squallkicks
    @Squallkicks6 жыл бұрын

    My favorite episode so far! That moment at 33:07 hitting the Plexi with the OCD gave me chills!!!

  • @irabucha8963
    @irabucha89636 жыл бұрын

    Time between every show feels longer and longer in my heart. I'm really grateful to have this channel existing. Thank you guys!

  • @davidwlucas
    @davidwlucas6 жыл бұрын

    Wow, the Duesy -> OCD -> Plexi combo sounded fantastic. Like, really fantastic.

  • @whiskersb5296
    @whiskersb52966 жыл бұрын

    Loved this episode. There's a reason the classics are classics. So many attempts to improve on the OCD and tubescreamer and while they may end up as some worthwhile variations, no improvement is necessary.

  • @beestew79
    @beestew796 жыл бұрын

    Great job with the editing on the video. So much work with all of the pedal and amp switching. It sure makes it easier for the viewer to know what is going on with all of the different sounds. Thanks and keep up the good work!

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Bharata Dasa Simon says THANK YOU!

  • @sampopkin
    @sampopkin6 жыл бұрын

    Such a great episode! Dan and Mick: your shows on amps and the pedals that go with them have helped me so much on my guitar journey! Thanks again

  • @pterantula
    @pterantula6 жыл бұрын

    My favorite aspect of TPS is how excited and joyful you guys get. :D

  • @soloist88
    @soloist886 жыл бұрын

    Guys...that episode is a masterpiece! Really thank you for what you're doing!

  • @devingallucci4829
    @devingallucci48296 жыл бұрын

    Holy shit, that intro was probably the best playing I've ever heard from Mick.

  • @markwhitelaw7192
    @markwhitelaw71926 жыл бұрын

    I think you proved your point with the OCD in the 3 amps that a pedal doesn't have a sound. Very cool and extremely imformative video!

  • @zac_m
    @zac_m6 жыл бұрын

    This is probably my favorite thing to watch now. You guys are so good at producing this. The edits are perfect and appropriate without being so heavy handed and distracting. Either Dan and Mick are getting more comfortable playing on a video or they're getting better and better at playing, not that they weren't always great players. Between Dan's relevant knowledge of the pedal building and what goes where and what goes better with this and why vs what Mick has picked up from working the industry, where this came from and what that means etc.. I'm about to have a whole closet full of these damn shirts.

  • @bicisnobombas
    @bicisnobombas6 жыл бұрын

    Jeez guys, that bit on frequencies was hands-down the most informative thing you have every talked about/taught. I can't believe you waited so many years to go over this! Understanding frequencies and how they interact is the key to going from, "Hold on something doesn't sound right here," to "Yeah, that's sounding good!" Keep up the good work.

  • @elmobrother
    @elmobrother6 жыл бұрын

    Step 1: Cut a hole in a box Step 2: Put your amp in that box Step 3: Open the box It’s an amp in a box!

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    6 жыл бұрын

    +John Sargent You for prime minister!

  • @Smurfman256
    @Smurfman2562 жыл бұрын

    That OCD through the Plexi is seriously one of the best tones I've ever heard.

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yay!

  • @hbert06
    @hbert065 жыл бұрын

    How could I miss this video for so long? Pure fun to watch! Thank you guys! And thumbs up for the editing! 👌🏻

  • @garrett3300
    @garrett33006 жыл бұрын

    Thank you gentlemen. I am always delighted when you two get into the technical aspects of amps, pedals, and guitars. I loved hearing those amps side by side.

  • @christurner2398
    @christurner23986 жыл бұрын

    I'm guessing that the G2 and Quartermasters must be your big sellers Dan, but I think that 3 2 1 of yours is an absolute unsung hero for of the show and a really clever piece of kit.

  • @tunaXonXtoast
    @tunaXonXtoast6 жыл бұрын

    I hate when Dan thinks something is amazing, then I need to buy it...

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    6 жыл бұрын

    +tunaXonXtoast hahahaha

  • @Piplodocus

    @Piplodocus

    6 жыл бұрын

    So far this has worked on a Cali76, Muffroom Cloud, and CBA Brothers. Dan was right though! To be fair any very nice flexible drive with MIDI control was gonna sell itself to me at that point though, but the other two were definitely a TPS inspired prod. Just bought a new amp though so I'm very much enjoying this is a "principles" episode, rather than a "look at all this cool stuff you could buy" episode. If only I could buy the fingers Landreth! :D

  • @piedaterre8843

    @piedaterre8843

    6 жыл бұрын

    i been playing for years and never had a strat, never wanted one and was always a proud gibson guy. Mick of all people got me to finally take the plunge after such a long time and i ended up, yep you guessed it, getting the exact same configuration he has: sonic blue/ rosewood/ mint pickguard etc. (although mine is a bit cheaper)

  • @bpdarragh

    @bpdarragh

    6 жыл бұрын

    I hate you guys for releasing videos in December. I now want more stuff. I think the ONLY video of yours I will watch from here on in are any wish list list you have.

  • @HeySenatorArnold

    @HeySenatorArnold

    5 жыл бұрын

    I never buy anything without the Dan approval of “THAT IS AWESOME!!!”

  • @bradenandre2298
    @bradenandre22984 жыл бұрын

    This has got to be one of the best tone and guitar videos on the internet...wow

  • @bicisnobombas
    @bicisnobombas6 жыл бұрын

    Guys, the bit on frequencies with the EQ pedal is without a doubt one of the most essential bits of information you have ever put into a video. I kind of can't believe you waited so long to do it. Knowing and understanding frequencies is the secret of going from, "Something doesn't sound right here," to "Ready to go".

  • @jacobburr7835
    @jacobburr78356 жыл бұрын

    Really cool video! Since I've discovered you guys channel, I've been binge watching your shows. I've easily learned more from that pedal show, than I have through my whole guitar journey. Can't thank you guys enough!!

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Jacob Burr Awesome! Glad you’re finding it helpful Jacob. Thank you for watching!

  • @smharold

    @smharold

    6 жыл бұрын

    Agreed here. Learned so much in the last year basically due to this show. Cheers!

  • @MrJaapdeboer
    @MrJaapdeboer6 жыл бұрын

    Here's an idea for an episode: get Rabea or someone else on board and look at classic metal amps. For example, Jcm800, 5150, Dual Rectifier, see how they do pedals and whether they might also be used for other genres such as jazz or blues

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Mannes That would be a lot of views. I love the Dual Rec’s clean and pushed sounds more than the heavy stuff - perfect in jazz or blues, or country! (Mick here)

  • @hankgalt

    @hankgalt

    6 жыл бұрын

    And get some of the pedals that are supposed to replicate them (evh 5150, wampler triple wreck, etc) and see if they do 🤘🏻🎸

  • @antonioalejandrohernandezp6727

    @antonioalejandrohernandezp6727

    6 жыл бұрын

    Great idea! would be awesome. I have another: a pickups episode, everything about tone, height, output, all that stuff. It´s would be very helpful for many people.

  • @deanjohnston104

    @deanjohnston104

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ditto that. The pickup idea I mean.

  • @MrDazza64

    @MrDazza64

    6 жыл бұрын

    Dean Johnston .....Ditto that Ditto! Atb, Dazza.

  • @Msujfears
    @Msujfears3 ай бұрын

    This show has gotten so much better, I love everything about you guy. At the same time, that Biffy section will always be my favorite moment. It’s like Dan just goes to that space that I feel we all strive to get to. Thank you always for sharing your moments with us!

  • @michaela9817
    @michaela98176 жыл бұрын

    Since the first Pedal Show, I have been working to improve my ear. This video was brilliant in helping me distinguish tones and begin to verbalize the differences. Thank you so much!

  • @mrc2662
    @mrc26626 жыл бұрын

    The Biffy Clyro bit in the middle of this. Best guitar moment in KZread history. Simple as. Just.....stunning. Bravo gentlemen, bravo.

  • @the_swoletariat1621
    @the_swoletariat16216 жыл бұрын

    Plexi+OCD= incredible tone! I bought an OCD because of TPS and it’s an amazing asset on my board!

  • @stevieboy444
    @stevieboy4446 жыл бұрын

    Every time I think this show can't get better it does. The section with the EQ was genius & I'll understand the terminology so much better in future.Thank you.

  • @russharnish
    @russharnish6 жыл бұрын

    Great show this week, guys! One of your best!

  • @vincentpuga-aragon3501
    @vincentpuga-aragon35016 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this guys. I own the DLS and run it in Super Bass mode at 18v into a NOS Tweed Blues Junior, with preamp set between 9-12 o'clock. Not sure how "Marhsally" it is, but it definitely changes the feel of the amp, and fuzzes seem to react better than just straight into the amp. I would love to see the modes of the DLS explored in a future video. Cheers!

  • @vincet68
    @vincet686 жыл бұрын

    Chills when you broke out the Many Of Horror riff, Dan.

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Vince Tuckwood ah, cheers V, one of my all time fav bands

  • @moraes_ac

    @moraes_ac

    6 жыл бұрын

    So cool. Had to look it up. Prefer Dan’s tone with the 3 amps and OCD tho

  • @davidkieltyka9
    @davidkieltyka96 жыл бұрын

    One of the best eps to date! Love when you guys wing it.

  • @alexmason7222
    @alexmason72226 жыл бұрын

    would love to see an episode on tube differences- whenever I start researching and reading up on them I get lost without actually hearing them. huge fan of the show guys. keep it up!!

  • @kevinjohnbetts
    @kevinjohnbetts6 жыл бұрын

    A lot of fun going on there. Interesting that the guitar that drew out the differences in the amps best was Dan's Telecaster. Suggestion: If you can lay your hands on them Catalinbreads' 'Foundation Overdrive' series would make for a fascinating follow up to this episode. I own a Formula 5 and a Formula 5e4 - the former does an amazing 'small tweed on the edge of disintegration' sound whilst the latter adds a nice clean-ish Bassman character to your tone. Much as I'd love to own a selection of classic amps I just don't have the space so pedals and a Victory V40 seems the next best alternative to me. As/when/if you get around to it I'd love to hear your take on these pedals.

  • @ryangunwitch-black
    @ryangunwitch-black2 жыл бұрын

    I need a whole show about the Fender Stratocaster through the Fender Twin Amp.

  • @chasecwood59
    @chasecwood595 жыл бұрын

    You guys are amazing! I am learning so much. You explain things so well don’t ever change!!!

  • @Marcus-jg4jb
    @Marcus-jg4jb6 жыл бұрын

    Great ep, one of my favorites in a while! That 'all three' tone is just unreal!

  • @AS__77
    @AS__776 жыл бұрын

    My favorite video of yours so far. I also care wayyyy more about my amps than my guitars haha.

  • @foxmulder5379
    @foxmulder53796 жыл бұрын

    I've got an uncle... .:: stares into the distance ::.

  • @TobySpiller
    @TobySpiller Жыл бұрын

    I keep coming back to this video just to hear the Biffy riff going into the OCD through all 3 amps, I love it!

  • @JKM395
    @JKM3956 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant as always guys. As someone who will likely never be able to afford a truly great amp, I really enjoy listening to yours.

  • @TR-zf6io
    @TR-zf6io6 жыл бұрын

    You're doing god's work here boys. Nicely done!!

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Terry Rogers Aj, thanks Terry :)

  • @bonestockrotorary
    @bonestockrotorary6 жыл бұрын

    When Mick hit the ocd on that biffy riff, I saw Jesus.

  • @jamesjack3992
    @jamesjack39926 жыл бұрын

    This is just pure brilliant, funny, extremely in depth, you guys are really helping me to understand my guitar sounds and also i am noticing things in a mix i never realised were there. Thank you so much, I’ll continue to watch and spread the word on your videos each time they come out !

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you James, very kind of you to say. So glad you’re finding the shows useful! We just try to be a springboard to help everybody ask questions that will get them to where they want to be a little more quickly. It’s a journey, but hopefully we can help make it a fun one! Thanks for watching.

  • @CO-254
    @CO-2546 жыл бұрын

    Best episode you guys have ever put out. Amazing!

  • @joewrightmusic790
    @joewrightmusic7906 жыл бұрын

    Guys if you haven't already can you talk about the Brown sound? Thank you for such great videos.

  • @alexandert696
    @alexandert6966 жыл бұрын

    Most frustrating thing: trying to make your amp sound like something else.

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    6 жыл бұрын

    +johno doh yep, forget it ;)

  • @Javier-qk7ms

    @Javier-qk7ms

    6 жыл бұрын

    Have you heard of AMT pedals from Russia? They make famous amps preamp replicas into pedal format. That into a real amp FX return seem to get great results for lots of people.

  • @powdermnky007

    @powdermnky007

    6 жыл бұрын

    I really have to give a big thumbs up to my Egnater Tweaker. I really can get any sound out of it. Been using it for a few years and extremely pleased. From Andy Timmons fender clean with a strat to guns n roses on a Les Paul or Foo fighters ac30. It's so good and can come much much closer than any of those pedals, and is perfect for when you only have room and money for a single amp, but like a diverse range of music and love tone.

  • @alexandert696

    @alexandert696

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Javier Aldan I ve seen vids but it kinda ,sorta sounded close. But I never had the chance to try one. +Rc Dad / Sultans of Wing yeah I was checking some demos the other day but to tell you the truth I wasnt impressed. Heard some models have loop issues with pedals.

  • @gafarbello107
    @gafarbello1076 жыл бұрын

    Y'all are the absolute best! I always learn more about amps and pedals from watching you both. Plus this episode, helped me out so much with understanding ODs with amps. Thank y'all much!

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Gafar Bello ah, cheers G, you’re so welcome :)

  • @AlbertoMartinezDelRio
    @AlbertoMartinezDelRio6 жыл бұрын

    One of the videos that I have enjoyed most of the channel for all the valuable information ...

  • @joezabrowski803
    @joezabrowski8036 жыл бұрын

    33:40 Clearly the answer to "Fender, Vox, or Marshall?" is "YES!"

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Joe Zabrowski indeed :)

  • @thesphericalguy9018
    @thesphericalguy90186 жыл бұрын

    Would be interesting to actually see a spectrum analysis of the amps output in a DAW. Thanks for a great episode!

  • @Les537

    @Les537

    6 жыл бұрын

    I was thinking the same thing. A spectrum visual would give so many clues to what they were trying to show here.

  • @smharold

    @smharold

    6 жыл бұрын

    Agreed here.

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    6 жыл бұрын

    +TheSphericalGuy We talked about it.We don’t have one that tells the story well enough. I was trying the get the one in Logic to work, but the differences weren’t massively obvious. Cheers!

  • @thesphericalguy9018

    @thesphericalguy9018

    6 жыл бұрын

    I think the stock EQ plug-in with the analyzer engaged should be detailed enough. Perhaps the differences simply aren't that massive visually, but it really only takes a couple of dB's up or down for our ears to pick it up, particularly in the mid range. Have a good weekend lads!

  • @davek1919

    @davek1919

    6 жыл бұрын

    www.premierguitar.com/articles/23003-the-recording-guitarist-is-it-a-sin-to-scoop-your-mids?page=2 Something like that.....

  • @TheRealReTox
    @TheRealReTox6 жыл бұрын

    I love Friday mornings, get to wake up to a new video... weekly Christmas.

  • @danman9510
    @danman95106 жыл бұрын

    Most appreciated the way you both admitted you love more your amps than your axes !! Something I’ve always questioned for myself...

  • @ETILHK54
    @ETILHK546 жыл бұрын

    The way i would make fender sound more marshally, is by setting dls as close to a CLEAN marshall as possible to create platform, and then add ocd for a gain, it should work well either before or after dls.

  • @deanjohnston104
    @deanjohnston1046 жыл бұрын

    Coming back on the pickup request, some kind of tonal overview of each of the major and semi major types / tone groups, also with things like the history of the Strat selector switch, how Strat single coils differ from Teles, differences between say 50s, 60s & 70s pickup sounds, etc. along with the common mods (humbuckers in Tele neck, LP humbuckers split, out of phase, etc.), would be great & super useful. Especially considering swapping out pickups is something many try as a first or second mod. Thanks.

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Dean Johnston There’s Something here Dean. Certainly in a basic comparison. Trouble is, contrary to a lot of the crap you might read online, the host guitar makes a massive difference, so you’re never comparing apples with apples. That said, there are definitely some generalities that would be bloomin’ useful and interesting to demo. Not least for me and Dan... thanks as ever for watching!

  • @deanjohnston104

    @deanjohnston104

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hiya! Yeah, I get your drift, a lot of variables in the mix. Still, it could be informative; perhaps along the lines of the current "mid scooped vs pushed' episode, where some assumptions might get reconsidered. Incidentally, I noted on the recent Anderton's blindfold challenge with Lee Anderton playing Strats, that while he instantly identified the one with a humbucker in the bridge position, he still posed it as a question - "Oh, is that a humbucker?" as opposed to 'Hey, that's a humbucker!' At the time I thought that was interesting. Cheers.

  • @deanjohnston104

    @deanjohnston104

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hi again. While I remember, tell Dan that just down the road from where I live in Japan is a junk yard with a Mazda Roadpacer in it - aka HJ Premier with a rotary motor in it. Depending on his degree of bogan-ness, he may or may not find that fascinating...

  • @Ttinpanama
    @Ttinpanama5 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant! One of the most informative and eye (ears) opening videos!

  • @abramtreadwell722
    @abramtreadwell7226 жыл бұрын

    Great video guys! I enjoyed this one quite a bit.

  • @belZaah
    @belZaah6 жыл бұрын

    I don't mean to interrupt but where's the second part of the Analogman video? The one where you geek out on the fuzzes? I've been dying to understand the Sunface variations...

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Andres Kütt Hi Andreas. It will be in the next couple of weeks. Haven’t finished the edit yet. Cheers!

  • @belZaah

    @belZaah

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Looking forward to it!

  • @stevemacneil4819
    @stevemacneil48196 жыл бұрын

    You should do a part 2 to this with a couple of extension cabs to isolate the actual amps by using the same speakers. A lot can be said about the enormous difference speakers can make.

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Steve Macneil We make this point many times. But who carries an extension cab for their Super Reverb or AC30?! The whole point of this is that the sound of an amp is the whole thing, not just the electronics. Cheers!

  • @stevemacneil4819

    @stevemacneil4819

    6 жыл бұрын

    That Pedal Show very good point!

  • @tonisiret5557
    @tonisiret55576 жыл бұрын

    13 mins in, & they all sound great. What am I going to buy?! I'll wait till I reach the end, & then buy a t-shirt. Amazing work as always guys!

  • @MarkLyleDouglas
    @MarkLyleDouglas11 ай бұрын

    This video was super helpful and made me pick up my guitar for an hour which is the best!

  • @Aleph_Null_Audio
    @Aleph_Null_Audio6 жыл бұрын

    Shoving the stick farther-not further!-up my ass... Technically, all these amps cut mids as compared to no tone stack. The Marshall attentuates mids the least. It's also worth noting that "mids" is centered around 800Hz in the Marshall and Vox and more like 600Hz for the Fender.

  • @StratmanJerry

    @StratmanJerry

    4 жыл бұрын

    Love this

  • @OrangutanJ4488
    @OrangutanJ44886 жыл бұрын

    Is there any way y’all could show what makes other vintage style amps (supro, Gibson, silver tone) so unique compared to the more common amps? Also maybe compare that with reissue stuff? I have a new thunderbolt so I’m curious to see how it differs from Marshall, Fender, and Vox.

  • @Hangingofgiants

    @Hangingofgiants

    6 жыл бұрын

    yea i always wonder how Dan>Supro would react also. Ive got the rhythm master and love it.

  • @jackk9366

    @jackk9366

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ampegs too?

  • @midnightmerv3560

    @midnightmerv3560

    6 жыл бұрын

    There's a great channel called The Guitologist who's an amp tech and he's got a shitload of videos of him playing/working on valcos, harmonys, magnatones, gibsons, you name it.

  • @OrangutanJ4488

    @OrangutanJ4488

    6 жыл бұрын

    Cool I’ll check it out!

  • @OrangutanJ4488

    @OrangutanJ4488

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I just think it would be interesting to see

  • @ajsrhodes
    @ajsrhodes6 жыл бұрын

    Awesome show today guys! Great example of the difference between the 3 main amp styles

  • @PatFlanigan
    @PatFlanigan6 жыл бұрын

    Definitely one of the most metal TPS episodes ever! 🤘

  • @richardhuckle5715
    @richardhuckle57156 жыл бұрын

    Dan & Mick, have you thought about getting a sound/guitar tech in, to talk about venue set up issues ? How many of us have been to a gig where the sound was really bad with very unhappy musicians ? And how may gigs have we been to where the sound is amazing and musicians are really enjoying themselves with no issues. I have been to a venue where one band had fantastic sound quality and another band on a different night had awful sound. Is the band using amps/set up etc that are wrong for the venue or is it the techs fault ?

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Richard Huckle yes, we’re going to do this, should be ace! Cheers Richard

  • @richardhuckle5715

    @richardhuckle5715

    6 жыл бұрын

    That Pedal Show . Oh. Good! Best sound I ever came across was the Japanese metal band Vow Wow, with the British bassist Neil Murray. They were light years ahead of any other band at the time. I can remember seeing computers on stage, which was very unusual for a metal band.

  • @ForViewingOnly
    @ForViewingOnly6 жыл бұрын

    Guys, I'm guessing you disconnected the retina-scorching LEDs on the MXR 10-band EQ to make the pedal easier on the eye?

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    6 жыл бұрын

    +ForViewingOnly We We’re confused that they weren’t working. Maybe there’s a switch?!

  • @genol9679

    @genol9679

    6 жыл бұрын

    That Pedal Show were you running the EQ on 9 volts or 18? I accidentally ran mine on 9 instead of 18 and the sliders didn’t light up, but it also sounded a lot different.

  • @Piplodocus

    @Piplodocus

    6 жыл бұрын

    Is this another "mic'ing half a JC120" boo-boo! 🤣

  • @thesphericalguy9018

    @thesphericalguy9018

    6 жыл бұрын

    What the hell where MXR thinking with those LEDs?

  • @AlbertoMartinezDelRio
    @AlbertoMartinezDelRio6 жыл бұрын

    Another great episode!

  • @olredbeard420
    @olredbeard4206 жыл бұрын

    This was such a great episode!! I learned so much and your playing was amazing! Mick you did such a great job taking the reigns and leading where this video went!!

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Robert Sidden that’s Mick’s superpower

  • @JimJamDaMan
    @JimJamDaMan6 жыл бұрын

    A tube screamer into an OCD into a lightly compressing amp is my happy place.

  • @brentstark578
    @brentstark5786 жыл бұрын

    All I know after this episode is that I want a Plexi.

  • @texanfournow

    @texanfournow

    6 жыл бұрын

    Me too. And the Fender. But not the Vox. Oh, and I will def buy the OCD and the MXR.

  • @GGRetroRally
    @GGRetroRally6 жыл бұрын

    great show thanks guys. been asking for something like this for years

  • @antonioalejandrohernandezp6727
    @antonioalejandrohernandezp67276 жыл бұрын

    Since I´ve been watching That Pedal Show, I love friday so much more than before. Honestly, my favorite channel on KZread. Thank you, guys. Greetings from Spain!

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Antonio Alejandro Hernández Pérez ah, cheers mate

  • @OneMoreGrave
    @OneMoreGrave6 жыл бұрын

    Now that we have Mick's Moans we need Dangents or Dan's Tangents.

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Sloe Poke hahaha! Yes!

  • @marianofernandez3600
    @marianofernandez36005 жыл бұрын

    Mind including Hiwatt amp some day? :)

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    5 жыл бұрын

    We’re going to buy one. Need to find one. :0)

  • @joemamma4324
    @joemamma43246 жыл бұрын

    WHAT A GREAT EPISODE...YOU GUYS ARE THE BEST ..THANKS

  • @davidsisbarro1501
    @davidsisbarro15016 жыл бұрын

    This is wonderful. Thanks, guys!

  • @GuitarJoooN
    @GuitarJoooN6 жыл бұрын

    Biffy fuckin Clyro!

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    6 жыл бұрын

    +xJoooNx Mon the BIFF!!!!!

  • @bulzah

    @bulzah

    6 жыл бұрын

    thanks to Dan, i'm now big fan of Biffy Clyro...can't stop listening..

  • @shredb4dead

    @shredb4dead

    6 жыл бұрын

    The song Many of Horror is just... to use a Dan term... Mega! Gets me every time I hear it.

  • @Piplodocus

    @Piplodocus

    6 жыл бұрын

    Biffy... the spoiler of every Metal Zone joke! :-)

  • @ReiCow
    @ReiCow6 жыл бұрын

    I love these education videos! (Even if they meander a bit.. :) Never stop guys!

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    6 жыл бұрын

    +ReiCow Meandering Is The Nee Straight Line

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    6 жыл бұрын

    +That Pedal Show New. Bludie awto corroct

  • @ReiCow

    @ReiCow

    6 жыл бұрын

    Wow, auto-correcting new to nee - impressive. Do you spend a lot of time referring to married women's maiden names?

  • @tclaybaugh
    @tclaybaugh6 жыл бұрын

    This is definitely the most fundamental and important video you guys have produced to date. Very well played.

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Todd Claybaugh cheers Todd :)

  • @juanmartinreborati7928
    @juanmartinreborati79286 жыл бұрын

    That was a very interesting show! I’m finally realizing how important the amp is... 🤓 Mick, your playing and the eq stuff was awesome! The OCD sounded killer on Dan’s hands! Thanks! Cheers!

  • @Andreas-xx7dk
    @Andreas-xx7dk6 жыл бұрын

    53:22 And your bird can sing

  • @benjaminthorpe7990
    @benjaminthorpe79906 жыл бұрын

    I was hoping to learn what frequency character my amp has... instead I learnt that I need to listen to Biffy Clyro 👌

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Benjamin Thorpe ha! It’s a valuable lesson :)

  • @slemtones

    @slemtones

    6 жыл бұрын

    Benjamin Thorpe Run your own tests. You have the amp - describe what you think is it's character. Make a video and tell us if you like or dislike it

  • @benjaminthorpe7990

    @benjaminthorpe7990

    6 жыл бұрын

    Surfey-Liker it was a joke...

  • @slemtones

    @slemtones

    6 жыл бұрын

    Benjamin Thorpe Oops! Sorry :-)

  • @tweedguitar9103
    @tweedguitar91036 жыл бұрын

    Hey Mick and Dan, Thankyou for your kindness, and taking the time, effort and energy to put on this episode. cheers

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    6 жыл бұрын

    +tweed guitar our pleasure mr tweed :)

  • @rdb9936
    @rdb99366 жыл бұрын

    Love this, especially the EQ pedal part! Very interesting!

  • @RobertFisher1969
    @RobertFisher19696 жыл бұрын

    Just reading the title, I expected two things: An EQ pedal and a spectrum analyzer. You did realize you needed a EQ pedal, but I think it would’ve helped a lot to have a spectrum analyzer too. Not only to show us a visual representation to go along with what we’re hearing, but it probably would have helped you dial some things in quicker.

  • @sashaszlafarski9949

    @sashaszlafarski9949

    6 жыл бұрын

    Robert Fisher visual aids can also inspire confirmation bias

  • @clairetemple6900
    @clairetemple69006 жыл бұрын

    This is just to say... I have eaten The stealthy plums That were in the icebox Poetry, innit.

  • @daemon1143

    @daemon1143

    6 жыл бұрын

    would they be salty plums?

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Claire Temple Eee. Art in words.

  • @Chrosa
    @Chrosa6 жыл бұрын

    The best KZread Channel there is. Love you guys

  • @sour37
    @sour375 жыл бұрын

    That 32 min bit of biffy is one of my fave bits of TPS ever. Amazing.

  • @terasankka
    @terasankka6 жыл бұрын

    So let me get this right. The tiny little brown things got bigger and bigger?

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    6 жыл бұрын

    +terasankka Yeah. And harder to hide down your pants.

  • @terasankka

    @terasankka

    6 жыл бұрын

    I am bit puzzled why guitarist would want that? (ill get me coat)

  • @daemon1143

    @daemon1143

    6 жыл бұрын

    yes, and after they got bigger, sometimes the began to poke out

  • @Anshul1614
    @Anshul16143 жыл бұрын

    It's serious when you're using the guitar to point at things.

  • @Sammie_Sorrelly
    @Sammie_Sorrelly6 жыл бұрын

    Great video! I know my way around a 3-band EQ but I've always really shied away from graphic EQs somewhat because I just wasn't sure how each band works or matters, so that little snippet's really inspired me to persevere with that and see what I can do for my sounds. Thanks, guys.

  • @peterjessop1878
    @peterjessop18786 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely brilliant show guys. The frequency discussion in relation to pedals and amps is so fundamental to an electric guitarist whether that is recording, playing live or at home. Great Job!

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Peter Jessop cheers Pete :)

  • @andyreynolds5575
    @andyreynolds55756 жыл бұрын

    My wife thinks I have a man crush on you guys.

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Andy Reynolds she’s a perceptive lady ;)

  • @dass101
    @dass1016 жыл бұрын

    This is a bit misleading, the biggest difference in the frequency response of these three amps isn't the circuit itself, it's the speakers and the cabinet. Not ignoring the different tone stacks which give a "signature" eq curve, but really, the biggest difference when it comes to chime, low end, vocal quality, girth it's the speakers/cab. Not sure if you mentioned this, but people should understand that trying to cop a dirty Marshall sound through a pair of Jensens or JBLs is simply futile. Same as trying to get extended string chime through a 4x12 Greenback cab.

  • @ThatPedalShow

    @ThatPedalShow

    6 жыл бұрын

    +dass101 We discuss this in the video... in fact a big part of the whole point of the video is to say that amps are about sooooo much more than EQ and gain. It’s the whole thing.... and that includes the speakers! They’re absolutely instrumental in our perception of those classic amp tones (not that these were especially classic today). Nevertheless, I feel like we can challenge this perception too. I have an idea. (Mick here). :0)

  • @passionplayer7

    @passionplayer7

    6 жыл бұрын

    A speaker episode would be great! But how do we keep it “The Pedal Show”? Speaker pedals! Haha 👍🏻

  • @chrismundayguitar
    @chrismundayguitar6 жыл бұрын

    This has been an amazing episode guys with some out of this world tones... it’s a super sized version of your killer tones from small amps with the class 5 and the blues Jr episode Superb playing as always Cheers

  • @smith4010
    @smith40106 жыл бұрын

    Great episode. Thanks !

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