this randomly showed up in my recommended, could someone pls lmk what show it's from?

@GalicianGranddaughter666

2 жыл бұрын

the Tudors

@Myrcella_Rykker

2 жыл бұрын

@@GalicianGranddaughter666 wow I don't remember that scene, but that was awesome! 👏👏👏

@v1v1d1ty

2 жыл бұрын

ik the creator already commented what the show was so i wont do it again, i just wanted to say that the tudors is an absolutely phenomenal show and you won't regret watching if you decide to pick it up! i would do anything to watch that show again for the first time, what a wild, exceptional ride! with a great cast too, natalie dormer does an excellent job playing anne boleyn. :)

@dswilliams2686

Жыл бұрын

@@v1v1d1ty Where can it be found? Is it a netflix or starz thing or some other platform?

@Gikendasso

Жыл бұрын

@@dswilliams2686 it originally aired on Showtime… I remember waiting every week for a new episode! Netflix used to have to it but it has since been removed. Showtime it seems, can with Hulu but with a premium subscription.

I love that she named every single one, my aunt was poisoned, the next beheaded even if she was innocent and the third died because they were careless with her health after childbirth

@daniellemusella1594

2 жыл бұрын

@LinnBlack23 When I saw this episode for the first time, I remember thinking, "Wooow. Catherine of Aragon's great-niece called her rival innocent. I wonder how Eustace Chapuys and Princess Mary would've reacted, had they been there to personally witness it." (7/11/2022)

@LinnBlack23

2 жыл бұрын

@@daniellemusella1594 Mary would have been blinded by her hate for Anne, Anne was pretty awful and vicious to her. And Chapuys loved Mary so much that he would be also biased against anything to do Anne. But I think that the rest of Europe saw everything for what it was. Henry wanted a new wife and he couldn't divorce Anne after everything he did to marry her, so he had to find a way to get rid of her... Anne wasn't as loved as Catherine, so people in England believed everything that was said about her

@Michelle-gy2qy

2 жыл бұрын

@@LinnBlack23 sleeping with her brother was over the top. The ones you could believe.

@aislingyngaio

2 жыл бұрын

@@daniellemusella1594 Eustace Chapuys, while reveling in the outcome (Anne Boleyn's death) was actually appalled just as everyone else was at the gross injustice of the trial. It's a testament to how over the top Henry and Cromwell's charges were that even Anne's own greatest critics were revolted by what was clearly a sham trial.

@redadmiralofvalyria867

2 жыл бұрын

@@aislingyngaio so he wanted her dead, but even he wanted a "fair trial" for Anne boleyn?

"If I had two heads then one would be at his majesty's service but alas I have only this one." What a great line!

@gertrudemilhouse5626

Жыл бұрын

2 bad it wasn't said 2 his face!

@mzmiddlefinger

Жыл бұрын

I think history shows that she said something along those lines "if I had two heads, one would be with his majesty"

@chooseyourpoison5105

Жыл бұрын

@@mzmiddlefinger "If I had two heads, I should consent to wed his gracious majesty; alas, having but one, I dare not." That's a sick burn even five centuries later 🤣 Christina was a badass

@SkepticalChris

4 ай бұрын

its also rather ironic that Christina would say this (if she did) because she was a powerful noblewoman in her own right, and she was a claimant to no less than THREE royal dynasties of Sweden, Denmark and Norway, and on top of all that she was also a direct relative to the Holy Roman Emperor. Henry wouldn't have dared hurt her if things didn't work out, she had too many connections.

@bdazzleddesigns9219

21 күн бұрын

​@@SkepticalChrisshe STILL didn't want him!

Christina of Milan 😊 Actually, this is the second time he got burned. The first one was Marie of Guise, Mary of Scots' mother. Henry heard she was beautiful, fierce and wise, and really tall. He proposed to her, saying he was a big man, in need of a big woman. She answered: I might be a big woman, but I have a very little neck.

@nicoleackerman205

2 жыл бұрын

Wait isn't Mary queen of Scott's mother his sister gross.

@jackierenee1691

2 жыл бұрын

@@nicoleackerman205 no, his sister Mary who married the king of Scotland gave birth to a son. That son who became king after his dad's death, married Mary de Guise, who then gave birth to Mary Queen of Scots. But I mean I still wouldn't want to marry into what would be considered inlaws. They all wind up being related eventually down the line lol

@cringecat3614

2 жыл бұрын

@@nicoleackerman205 Nah, they were talking about Marie de Guise (Mary of Guise), who became daughter-in-law to Henry VIII's sister, Margaret Tudor, by marrying her son and Henry VIII's nephew, King James V of Scotland. They only had one daughter, Mary I of Scotland.

@cringecat3614

2 жыл бұрын

@@jackierenee1691 It was not Mary who married King James IV of Scotland, it was Margaret. Mary married King Louis XII of France, and would later on remarry to Henry VIII's bestfriend, Charles Brandon, Duke of Suffolk.

@daniellemusella1594

2 жыл бұрын

@@nicoleackerman205 He proposed to her a few years BEFORE she married his great-nephew, James, who was the son of his older sister, Margaret. (7/10/2022)

This was the classiest, "Oh hell nah." ever. Imagine the hubris to propose marriage to Charles' niece, after the way Henry treated Catherine.

@chooseyourpoison5105

Жыл бұрын

Ikr? It staggers the imagination to think that Henry proposed to marry Christina when he KNEW Emperor Charles hated his guts. Like, exactly what response did he think he would get? That's why Christina adds that last subtle little dig "Unless of course the Emperor commands me to," which meant "'when hell freezes over" because she knew full well her uncle would never agree to it. Christina was probably shaking her head after the messenger left and saying to her maids "I dont know what King Henry's been smoking but I sure as hell would like some"🤣

@user-gi8pk9uc7q

4 ай бұрын

@@chooseyourpoison5105Well, that's Henry for you!

@chooseyourpoison5105

4 ай бұрын

@@user-gi8pk9uc7q Lol true

@ladyv5655

Ай бұрын

Yes, and you could just see the defeat of Henry's ambassador when Christina said she would only accept Henry if the emperor commanded her to. Because they both knew that would never happen.😂

She was only 16, yet she was wise and smart to refuse to Wed Henry. GO CHRISTINA 👏🏿

@cortezconquistador

11 ай бұрын

They didn’t raise them to be stupid like it is done here in this country. Past a certain age they were men and women. They were not looked at as young ppl who needed to be told what to do all the time. They treated them as men and women who were expected to be men and women. In this country young ppl are dumbed down.

@user-un2gp9se6b

11 күн бұрын

Well already a widow

It's funny how many good female historical portrayals are in this show considering its so innacurate. This scene was very cool I wish it had lasted longer. Christina of Milan was very smart to refuse Henry in a feigned polite way.

@mediocremaiden8883

2 жыл бұрын

I could've sworn that it was Marie of Guise that said the "If I had two heads" line...This chick

@einezcrespo2107

2 жыл бұрын

@@mediocremaiden8883 It was Christina of Milan who was to have alleged to have said that not Mary of Guise.

@SuperShiningDawn

2 жыл бұрын

@@mediocremaiden8883 She's not the one who said that. On the french wikipedia page for Marie de Guise, she apparently said that her neck wasn't long enough. But, on the english one, the quote is that she might be a big woman (apparently she was 1.80 m tall) but her neck is too little. It's still Wikipedia, so I don't know how true these quotes are.

@dianaolivia2947

2 жыл бұрын

It was Christina of Denmark who refused Henry VIII of England's proposal and said "If i have two heads, one is in the King of England's plate."

@soilofk

2 жыл бұрын

with Henry's reputation, I wouldn't be surprised if many queens thought the same thing lol

Also, Mary of Habsburg, formerly Queen consort of Hungary and Bohemia, Governor of the Netherlands, the youngest daughter of Joanna of Castile, wrote a letter to her brother, Ferdinand, after she heard about Henry remarried to Jane Seymour: “It is to be hoped, if one can hope anything from such a man, that if this one bores him he will find a better way of getting rid of her. I believe that most women would not appreciate it very much if this kind of habit becomes general, and with reason. And although I have no inclination to expose myself to dangers of this kind, I do after all belong to the female sex, so I shall also pray God that he may protect us from such perils.”

@erin-shhmerin3704

Жыл бұрын

Right?! Every time he got rid of a wife, the royal women of Europe held their breathes wondering which one of them could've been next.

@TheMagicAround

Жыл бұрын

Little correction - Mary was not the youngest daughter of Joanna. Catherine, Queen of Potugal was

@leilasedits

Жыл бұрын

@@TheMagicAround my bad!! Thank you.

What such a polite way to say, “hell nawl”!!!

@xxwhispersxx2856

Жыл бұрын

I think Christina nailed it with, "If I had an extra head..."

The fact that she actually said this in real life is amazing! Bravo Christina of Denmark

Take note that the Duchess of Milan was only 16 at this time yet she was so wise and wordly

@chooseyourpoison5105

2 жыл бұрын

I love Christina, she was a 16th century version of a sassy teenager. Although she was only 16 she was already a widow. Not only was she well educated and beautiful, she used to design her own clothing (always black), decorated her own rooms, and eventually negotiated her own remarriage, something almost unheard of at the time. And of course the fact that she told Henry to get bent gives us a pretty good insight into her personality too 🤣 I think if she was transplanted to the 21st century she'd be a rebellious goth girl running her own influencer channel, flipping the bird to anyone who pissed her off and giving zero fucks about what anyone thought of her 🤣

@teragram38crows49

2 жыл бұрын

@@chooseyourpoison5105 she would have been a queen of her own making in this day and age.

@MsJubjubbird

7 ай бұрын

she probably didn't say this though. It was a story told long after she died so likely it was embellished.

@user-gi8pk9uc7q

4 ай бұрын

Henry had a reputation for being a cranky obese dickhead at this point!

@yevgeniyaleshchenko849

Ай бұрын

@@chooseyourpoison5105 So you think smart women who can stand up for themselves are necessarilly ''rebellious'' (whatever that means) AND influencers? Or that ''flipping the bird'' is to ''rebel'' (even though anyone can do it)? Christina replied with dignity and poise afterall, so your parallels are weird.... Are you 13 that you idolize teen vloggers? Cringe... Intelligent women gofor something far greater than this BS vlogging ''job''🙄🤦‍♀

The way the painter looked at her with admiration. 🙂

Fun fact: The bit about the 2 heads thing, nearly word for word from her mouth.

@chooseyourpoison5105

2 жыл бұрын

"If I had two heads, I should consent to wed his gracious majesty; alas, having but one, I dare not." 🔥🔥🔥

@dswilliams2686

Жыл бұрын

It must have been difficult to deliver those lines with a straight face like she did. I crack up every time. Lol.

Has anyone noticed the painters little smile at the end? It’s like he’s happy that this one managed to get away with getting married to Henry 😂😂

@kira196

2 жыл бұрын

I believe that was Hans Holbein, who also painted the famous portrait of Anne of Cleaves, who King Henry rejected.

@marciaspiegel5280

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Henry not a prize.

@erin-shhmerin3704

Жыл бұрын

Yes. It was a smirk of respect.

@yevgeniyaleshchenko849

Ай бұрын

It wasn't exactly subtle so yes, everyone noticed that.

I’ve always loved this scene it’s so memorable to me 😂 Christina of Milan was spot on. Henry blamed everybody but himself for the deaths of his Queens.

@susannahfox7188

2 жыл бұрын

Psychopaths operate that way......

0:06 Poor Matchmaker 😢 He just couldn't ignore nor deny what Christina spoke about the three deceased Queens.

I hope the messenger repeated that brilliantly crafted response to Henry word for word. Do burns travel well? ❤‍🔥

@queen-estherobasi4086

2 жыл бұрын

I don't know about burns but, heads fly well.

@chooseyourpoison5105

2 жыл бұрын

@@queen-estherobasi4086 Except Christina knew very well that her head was safe. She wasn't one of his subjects, and so wasn't subject to any of his commands. What's more, her uncle Emperor Charles hated Henry's guts, so although Christina diplomatically said that the ultimate decision would lie with her uncle, she knew very well that Emperor Charles would die before lifting a finger to help out Henry, and so she could burn Henry with impunity. 🔥🔥🔥🤣

@nenisguevaragomez8122

2 жыл бұрын

@@chooseyourpoison5105 hehehehe, that was sooo sweets

@twelfthlady847

2 жыл бұрын

They would have given him the happy watered down version 100%

@HaNsWiDjAjA

2 жыл бұрын

@@chooseyourpoison5105 Obviously Charles V would not agree to the match just to make Henry happy, given his dislike of the latter, but he absolutely did have the authority to command Christina. After all Christina was previously his ward, and as a widow she came back to being a member of his household, just like how her duchy of Milan had reverted into Imperial possession after the death of her husband. He later forced her to marry Francis of Lorraine for his political benefit, forsaking her love Rene of Chalon.

A burn crossing nearly 500 years and still searing. Viva Christina of Milan!

@eamonndeane587

2 жыл бұрын

VIVA!

One of the Best Scenes in the Entire Show and one of it's most accurate ones in terms of Historical dialogues. We salute you Christina Of Milan. A Truly Savage Queen who didn't need Henry's Spousal Throne.

@NatalieJ22

2 жыл бұрын

What show is this from?

@sushmitaraodesaraju6330

2 жыл бұрын

@@NatalieJ22 It's called The Tudors. It's a not-so-accurate depiction of Henry VIII of England and his six marriages

@NatalieJ22

2 жыл бұрын

@@sushmitaraodesaraju6330 thanks! I’ve actually seen it before, I don’t remember this scene though. You’re right it’s definitely not historically flawless but it’s a good show!

@sushmitaraodesaraju6330

2 жыл бұрын

@@NatalieJ22 I think this scene is part of a montage that introduces Anne of Cleves. I'm not sure though, it's been years since I've seen the show. And I do agree, it was a great show!

I like to imagine a conversation like THIS, taking place between those men after she left the room: "So, which of us will be describing this to His Majesty, when we return?" ("Really, dude" face) Also, it was a pretty huge deal for Christina to call the woman, who replaced her great-aunt on the English throne, innocent. It shows just how many people truly saw through all of Henry's lies. (7/10/2022)

@LA_HA

2 жыл бұрын

Danielle Musella: It's not uncommon. Once - okay, maybe there's truth to his stories Twice - Bad luck is possible Thrice - You prolly lyin' After that - You most Def lyin'

@MsJubjubbird

Жыл бұрын

in modern times, now it's legal and all, this is where Henry would be told Christina is a lesbian.

@ladyv5655

Ай бұрын

Or more likely, they probably told Henry that the emperor refused to allow the marriage. They probably would not have told him what Christina really said.

Christina of Milan was born a Danish princess and her uncle was the emperor of Spain. In 1527 Thomas Wolsey suggested Christina married King Henry's illegitimate son Henry Fitzroy, but the offer was declined. Later in 1537 after Christina's first husband died, it was suggested that she married King Henry and Hans Holbein painted her portrait while she was still wearing mourning clothes. Christina was at that time sixteen years old. In 1541, Christina married her second husband, the duke of Lorraine who had previously been betrohed to Anne of Cleves, King Henry's fourth wife.

@chunellemariavictoriaespan8752

2 жыл бұрын

Dang... What a Ring-Around-A-Rosie...

@endor8witch

Жыл бұрын

@@chunellemariavictoriaespan8752 it's a game of inbred marriages in european courts

@QWERTYUIOP-wu6ht

Жыл бұрын

Although Spain had a lot of colonies and was sometimes reffered to as the "Spanish Empire" the monarch never called themselves as Emperor. Yes, Charles was an Emperor but it was of the Holy Roman Empire.

After breaking from Rome practically half of Europe was out of the running, and after the third wife well… It wasn’t exactly a buyers market.

@animallover6645

2 жыл бұрын

Yet he kept going after the Catholic ones, even Anne of Cleves was raised a catholic but had a Protestant brother.

@antmagor

2 жыл бұрын

@@animallover6645 but she was a Lutheran upon meeting Henry, and she was a Lutheran when she was anointed into the church of England, and an Anglican upon marriage. She never converted to Catholicism until after princess Marry ascended to queen. And let’s be honest that was more survival than religious conviction. The only other catholic was kitty Howard, however she wasn’t exactly in the greatest of standing in the eyes of the then Catholic Church. And last but not least there was Catherine Parr who couldn’t have been less Catholic if she tried.

I will always love the Tudors for including this hilarious quote from history.

William Thackery said it best. If Henry had rid himself of Catherine, there wasn't a family in England who wouldn't offer up a daughter to be wife no 7.

This tart response is historical record, and she was only 16 at the time, already widowed.

@EmmaAppleBerry

2 жыл бұрын

♪ Teenagers scare the living shit outta me~ 😂

@chooseyourpoison5105

Жыл бұрын

@@EmmaAppleBerry The real Christina actually WAS pretty scary. She was well educated, designed her own clothes (always in black for her late husband) decorated her own rooms, and negotiated her own remarriage, which was practically unheard of for the time. I reckon if she were transplanted to the 21st century she'd be that cool goth girl who everyone knew at high school, who made her own clothes, ran her own influencer channel, had a razor sharp tongue and gave precisely zero fucks about what anyone thought of her. Christina was a badass 🤣

She was so savage while politicly correct that Henry probably felt the burn in England before the news reached him.

It should be noted that as royalty (the daughter of a King no less) Henry wouldn't of dared to have her beheaded. Definitely not a coincidence that the two wives he had executed were not royal by birth. She was still smart to refuse because he could of easily had her imprisoned like his first wife. 😬 Also: The reason why people thought Catharine of Aragon was poisoned was because her heart had black spots on it. Most likely she died of cancer, and the spots were tumors.

@britc.3536

Жыл бұрын

Her mother died of dropsy so it's probable.

@mr.googoopants3581

Жыл бұрын

Henry's two wives that he divorced were both princesses of royal blood (Catherine of Aragon and Anne of Cleves). Henry would never dared lay a hand on these women as they have very powerful relations in the continent tonwhom he would answer too should anything happen to them. The two wives that Henry beheaded were from the nobility. Both are highborn ladies from the same family and in-fact cousins (Anne Boleyn and Katherine Howard are first cousins as Anne's mother Lady Elizabeth Howard and Katherine's father Lord Edmund Howard were siblings and members of the House of Howard of the Dukes of Norfolk) Henry's other two wives are members of the gentry.

@billcipherproductions1789

Жыл бұрын

@@mr.googoopants3581 Not to mention, Catherine of Aragon had a really close tie to the Habsburgs. Beheading her is asking 2/3rds of Europe at that time to invade England.

@mr.googoopants3581

Жыл бұрын

@@billcipherproductions1789 True. Emperor Charles V is her nephew, King Philip II is her grandnephew, not to mention that the queens of France, Hungary, Denmark and Portugal were all her nieces. The lady in this video, Christina of Denmark, Dowager Duchess of Milan is also is grandniece. Henry VIII has little to no allies in the continent, and his closest neighbor Scotland was ruled by Mary of Guise despises him deeply.

@MsJubjubbird

Жыл бұрын

her uncle would never have allowed the marriage.

Christina, Duchess of Milan, and a true bad-ass!

Queens: experienced abuse and general dumbassery and bs from the king This bum: He's actually nice, I swear! Lemme tell you about it, will it make you feel better. Queens:... why tf you lying.

poor Mace Tyrell failed to convince her to marry the king. As if that's gonna happen after what happen to the three queens

@patscott6365

2 жыл бұрын

Game of Thrones Tyrell?

@valeriatargaryen143

2 жыл бұрын

@@patscott6365 yes

@shimanopetermann9068

2 жыл бұрын

Actually it was about to happen regardless of what Christina thought. The initial plan to marry her to Henry came from her uncle Emperor Charles V. to secure am alliance against France and Christina would've had to obey her uncle. The marriage was called off when Charles made peace with France and marrying Christina to the Duke of Lorraine provided him with a better alliance. Instead Henry chose to marry into a family that was an enemy of the Emperor: He chose Anne of Cleves whose brother Duke William the Rich was at the time defying the Emperor over the posession of the Duchy of Guelders.

@valeriatargaryen143

2 жыл бұрын

@@shimanopetermann9068 I see. Very well then, Anne of Cleves is a different matter

Her dialogue feels like a poem

The painter is like - sooo I continue painting her…?

Fierce! And those are the same people who used to think a woman could not lead a country!

This was always my favorite scene 😍 she was savage in the best way

I adore this woman and consider her my role model

Im so glad she declined. she knew she was saving her own life.

0:10 “my great aunt…” Oh! Man.

Christina of Milan (she was Danish, but was the widow of the Duke of Milan) never said this, but she did say that she found it hard not to start laughing at the proposal. She was more polite in her "f**k no" answer. Throughout Europe, everyone knew who Henry was and yes, they also saw him at the time as a wife-killing psychotic tyrant. Even though the ambassadors at Henry's court had to be polite, in their correspondence they describe Henry as a monster. Chapuys, the Imperial ambassador, who hated Anne Boleyn felt bad for her, remarking that he never saw a guy who had been allegedly cheated on be so happy. Chapuys didn't believe Anne was guilty of the charges. The French ambassador (Marillac, I think) around the same time as this scene is supposed to take place, told Henry who wanted to meet a whole bunch of French noble ladies at an event to pick his next wife, something along the lines: "Wouldn't you also want to just f**k all of them and pick the one you want to keep, while you're at it?"

He would definitely have needed ice for that burn~

@cringecat3614

2 жыл бұрын

A whole iceberg.

@eamonndeane587

2 жыл бұрын

@@cringecat3614 Or live the rest of his Life on Pluto.

I want to know who was responsible for designing the jewelry for this series. They are so breathtaking.

@chooseyourpoison5105

10 ай бұрын

That would be Joan Bergin, who won the Emmy for Best Costume Design for this series.

Then she said "the second, innocently put to death. " She knows...

Good on her for rejecting Henry. He blamed everyone but himself for everything wrong that's happened in his marriages. He divorced his first wife in favour of his mistress & lack of a male heir, had his second queen beheaded on false charges because she only gave him a daughter, his third wife died shortly after childbirth, divorced his fourth wife for being "too ugly and looking "like a horse", beheaded his fifth wife because she cheated on him because he was a fat, sickly man that couldn't satisfy his husbandly duties in bed and, almost executed his last wife due to an argument about religion.

@ashleys7943

9 ай бұрын

The only reason he divorced Anne of Cleves is because he couldn't get it up anymore he claimed she was ugly as a lame ass cop out he couldn't consummate the marriage she was a virgin when they married and when he divorced her smh

I've have watch this scene way to much in the past week.

Smart move on her part. Bravo!

Okay, I know everyone is talking about how great this scene is, and I am in agreement with how much I love this scene; but can I get off topic and say how much I love the headpiece she wears? I know it's not really historically accurate but it's so pretty.

@dswilliams2686

Жыл бұрын

It is pretty even if they took some design liberties with it. They did the same with the room. Such sheer drapes wouldn't have been used. At least I don't think so.

On Netflix, I would replay this scene over and over just how much I enjoyed 😉 her performance to her refusal and her reasons. 😍 to the poor matchmaker.

What’s amazing was she actually said that

She said.. Aw HELL NAW!!! SIKE! That's gonna be a negative Ghost Rider...😒

I would watch this scene over and over and over. 😃 😊 😀 😄 😁 😆 She was smart and wise to refuse to marry Henry.

Smart woman. She has but one head but, unlike Anne Boleyn. she would prefer to have it attached to her neck. In a zero mood to face the fate of her great aunt and would take no chances suffering Jane Seymour’s fate.

SHe was like naw, I heard about your boy Henry over there. I'm gonna pass on that one. Gone head and show yourself out.

Ok... Some context... This line of "I would gladly marry Henry VIII if I only had but two heads." Was said by the princess of Denmark as she was getting her portrait painted for him to preview (before the engagement) and the Emperor is referencing the fact that the Holy Roman Emperor was Charles V, the cousin to the first wife Catherine of Aragon. Who also screwed Henry over on a lot of international deals (taking over France without Henry, refusing to marry his daughter Mary despite having a betrothal contract... Basically her cousin screwed her out of a marriage). Also in case anyone's wondering, the order goes ... Divorced, beheaded, died Divorced, beheaded, survived. Catherine of Aragon, Anne Boleyn, Jane Seymour. Anne of Cleves, Catherine Howard (Anne's younger cousin I believe), and Catherine Parr.

@QWERTYUIOP-wu6ht

Жыл бұрын

Charles was not cousin to the first wife Catherine of Aragon. Charles was the niece of Catherine of Aragon. Charles mother Joanna of Castille was the sister of Catherine of Aragon.

You didn't just burn him she absolutely nuked his entire image and then sat there and basically gave him the middle finger as if to say yeah that's for my aunt

I loved this scene so much. Thank you for uploading it.

That why he couldn't marry a other foreign princess.

@aislingyngaio

2 жыл бұрын

Yup. Some people seem to think that Henry mourned Jane Seymour for two years because he was in love with her, but the fact was actually that no powerful royal family was dumb enough to risk another daughter or niece ending up dead. That's why he had to eventually "settle" for the daughter of a tiny duchy like Cleves.

@Michelle-gy2qy

2 жыл бұрын

@@aislingyngaio For real. I glad they had some decency not to just turn in there girls to him.

Christina had very little say in who she could marry. She was of royal blood, but her father lost his throne, so her marriage prospects relied on the needs of the Holy Roman Emperor, her cousin Emperor Charles V, not her own heart. It was however the done thing then for a woman to use feminine terms when talking about such things, even if a dynastic match was proposed.

@laurendearnley9595

2 жыл бұрын

Thats why she said "unless the Emperor commands me". And narratively speaking, we presume Charles wasn't happy about the way Henry treated Katherine of Aragon, who was Charles' aunt, and is unlikely to force his cousin Christina to marry Henry.

@peadar-o

2 жыл бұрын

@@laurendearnley9595 From his foreign policy (dynastic manipulation), Charles was not keen on having favourable matches for his enemies unless they suited him and his family. I think he knew that England was already lost to Protestantism while both Henry and Edward were alive, so did very little to help Mary, and would therefore not have supported a match between Henry and Christina, because any children from that marriage would have been raised Protestant (or at least Henry’s version of Protestantism) and it would have caused a division in Habsburg family between Mary and her supporters and between Christina’s (and her children from the match) supporters. Mary’s status was still as precarious as Elizabeth’s as the marriage between Catherine of Aragon and Henry had been declared invalid. The one thing that Charles could not live with was division in his own family because that would cause the fall of his house. Initially Habsburg marriages were to gain territory, but later Habsburg marriages were between cousins, and uncles and nieces to retain territories (because dowries often consisted of lands as well). The odd thing is that this chronic interbreeding caused the fall of Habsburg in Spain anyway and caused the Habsburg of Austria-Hungary to continue through the female line thanks to Maria-Theresa (mother of Marie-Antoinette).

@chooseyourpoison5105

Жыл бұрын

@@laurendearnley9595 "Unless the Emperor commands me to," was code for "never." Emperor Charles hated Henry's guts. Christina knew she was quite safe, and could insult Henry with impunity.

this is my fav scene of the series.

"Let me plead my master's better qualities to appeal to your heart." "No! I don't want no scrubs. A scrub is a guy who can't get no love from me."

And this is true - Christina of Denmark actually said this 😂 like yeah I’d love to be his Queen … if I knew he wasn’t going to lead me to humiliation and death

Well, she wasn't wrong, lol.

She sure pwned him!

We Italians are a tough lot when we make up our minds.

There you go! Someone had to say it all at last! 👏👏👏

I don't know much about her but she did say this, she was truly one of the most intelligent women of her time.

I like this scene a lot

Oh, I bet Henry was not pleased to hear about this quip!

At this point I doubt Mace Tyrell can convince a beggar to accept alms

@SuperGreatSphinx

6 ай бұрын

Faith • Hope • Charity

✨Cristina of Denmark ✨

Smart Princess!

Good job lady!!!

She was a Danish princess.🇩🇰

As much as I love her quote(s), how do we know it’s historical fact verbatim? There seems to be very few witnesses present.

@Hallows4

2 жыл бұрын

I've read that the "two heads" bit may be apocryphal but was apparently widely circulated and attributed to Christina at the time (don't know if THAT'S true either but it seems plausible).

@AITrademarket

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hallows4 I would’ve expected some dramatic license for sure to have been taken for the sake of entertainment. Seems like Henry had unintentionally made himself the subject of many European jokes in the 1530s

@chooseyourpoison5105

Жыл бұрын

@@AITrademarket I seem to remember reading somewhere of a French nobleman exclaiming when he heard of Henry's marriage to Catherine Howard "God's foot! How many wives will his majesty have?" There was also a joke going around when Henry married Anne Boleyn and had his banners embroidered with an intertwined H and A, that they read "HA! HA!" as an insult to the Pope. And during the Blackfriars trial when Henry was trying to get his marriage to K of A annulled, one brave soul yelled out "Back to your wife!" at Henry when he was riding by. (There is no record of what, if anything, happened to him.) So yeah, the people of the time certainly had their opinions about Henry and didn't hesitate to make them known 🤣🤣🤣

@AITrademarket

Жыл бұрын

@@chooseyourpoison5105 Yes, I recall hearing both as well. I guess the pursuit of a legit heir must have overridden his famed self importance lol

Technically Henry did not get burned in this scene. His courier did.

I want her whole outfit

That's so cool! Did they show how Henry reacted to her refusal? I hope they gave it to him word by word. :D

The Tudors. Great scene with Toby Jones. But the Tudors' fatal flaw is their casting of Henry VIII. The actor is very fine, but simply too small to play Henry VIII, who was tall when young and huge when old. His persona had everything to do with his physical presence.

@wonka3209

Жыл бұрын

Toby Jones? If you're referring this particular scene you should know it is not Toby Jones. And I believe he never ever been on Tudors

@tricivenola8164

Жыл бұрын

@@wonka3209 Sure looks like him. But you're right, according to his IMDb he wasn't in The Tudors.

I've always wondered why Christina was desired more than Dorothea. She was considered more beautiful and she was older (by custom the elder sister gets married first). Christina also convinced her to give up her claims to the danish and swedish thrones

i keep mistaking the thumbnail with ashley greene

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

She roasted him

Smart girl

Not just no, but Hell No.

So Henry wanted to marry the granddaughter of his first wife's sister, who at one time might have been his own grand niece-in-law? Yeesh.

@hz8971

Жыл бұрын

That was normal lol the house of Habsburg married their biologically nieces. Uncles married nieces. First cousins married first cousins. Look it up. Until King Charles ii of Spain was produced he was affected by effects of inbreeding of generations. Christina Milan here did descend from that same family

@xxwhispersxx2856

Жыл бұрын

This is positively tame compared to Henry considering the arrangement of marriage between his own daughter Mary and his bastard son Henry Fitzroy! Thank goodness the pope was like "Fuck no!"

@QWERTYUIOP-wu6ht

Жыл бұрын

@@hz8971 Not really normal. It only became a common and acceptable practice at the time of the Spanish Habsburgs because they want to retain territories gained by their ancestors. Lands/territories can also be used a dowries.

What a bastard Henry was...I mean c'mon!! 🤷🏽‍♀️

Love it 😂😂😂

what's Mace Tyrell doing in 16th century Europe

*You should write King Henry viii* because of many Henrys...

Girl had spunk

She could bring a man and a kingdom undone and down

From which movie or series is this scene? I’d love to view it in its entirety.

@GalicianGranddaughter666

2 жыл бұрын

the Tudors

Как зовут эту прекрасную актрису ,кто знает напишите, спасибо!

I definitely wanted more of her. I hope she got other, bigger roles besides this

Would Christina of Denmark have had a Spanish or Italian accent?...or are they putting emphasis on her title of Duchess of Milan....even though her late mother was the sister of Charles V Holy Roman Emperor and King of Spain.....

What show Is it ??

May I know what show this came from? Would love to watch it.

@kevonmitchell7808

2 жыл бұрын

Showtime 'The Tudors'

@shamjallaludin

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevonmitchell7808 Thank you thank you.

What movie or show is this?

his face

What show is this from? Looks like something I'd enjoy!!

@Ultraluxeaestheticsandsurgery

2 жыл бұрын

The Tudors. This little clip is from season 3. It’s a really good show!

10/ 10 what show is this i need to watch it soom

for a danish princess living in milan she certainly has a strong italian accent and no thats not a compliment