Only in Australia could Lisa's husband swear while talking to politicians - then have a senator not only forgive him, but say that he shouldn't be sorry for 'talking like a human being' because he HAS been through 'shit'. I wish all politicians were that easy going and down to earth with members of their public.

@raggletaggle8827

5 жыл бұрын

@Christina Reynolds Thing is, though - many politicians would have just used the somewhat abrasen language as an excuse to go "Oh! I won't help you now. Because you used a naughty word, I'm going to walk off and ignore/dismiss this very important problem you wanted to speak to me about, and urge me to take action on just you said something informal". If you hear someone obnoxiously cussing away dozens of times over molehills on a bus, for instance? Sure, go ahead and ask them to stop being inconsiderate if you want to. But if someone with a very serious problem (like Lisa) let's one slip from her lips out of sheer, heated agitation? The two situations don't even compare. I see no reason not to forgive someone like Lisa and tell them that their frustration is perfectly valid. It's unfair to expect someone who's basically faced injustice their whole life to carefully select perfectly inoffensive language 24/7. And it is saddening to think that *most* other politicians all around this world would've been SO much more offended by one swear word, than they would have been by the injustice that she, her mother and her friends(and their own mothers) have faced. That's how I think it appears when *those* politicians immediately dismiss a conversation someone in their constituency initiated, purely because they used a 'naughty' word. As for it 'not making anything better'? Well, perhaps swearing is usually just used as mildly therapeutic stress relief to us in most instances. Short term benefits? Yes, sometimes. Long term solution? Of course not - nobody expects that. However, I think in this case it's debatable that it could've incidentally helped the senator channel her raw frustrations more rapidly, and perhaps nudged him to empathise with her. Language is a powerful tool which can help us as humans bond and empathise with one another - and yes, that can include naughty old profanity.

@raggletaggle8827

5 жыл бұрын

@Christina Reynolds lol, you can be bothered watching documentaries...but can't be bothered to really think more in depth about how the people in them communicate with one another? Okidoki.

@raggletaggle8827

5 жыл бұрын

@Christina ReynoldsIt's gonna be OK, smiley kitty cat. Don't ever feel shame - that is not a feeling the cat gods are meant to have. (Now I *am* just being silly)

@raggletaggle8827

5 жыл бұрын

@Christina Reynolds Free to leave anytime, babz.

@raggletaggle8827

5 жыл бұрын

@Christina Reynolds ye just keep coming back 4 moar.

My mother was offered this medication- thank God she refused. The lady who gave birth next to her had a baby with no limbs and that could have been me.

@freedomofspeech766

3 жыл бұрын

I'm one of the lucky ones like you Juls. My mother was offered it too in 1961. She refused as well. We need to wake up each day and count our lucky stars. These poor kids have been to hell and back and so have their families.

The chilling phrase “you don’t question your doctor he suggested it I took it”. If we learn one thing thing from this tragedy it is that doctors whilst highly trained are humans like us all and don’t know every thing. People need to start taking their own health into their care and decide when to listen and when to say no thanks. So sad for the mothers who had to live with the guilt for something they did with no knowledge of the consequences. I didn’t realise that it had other long term consequences on health wishing all the people living with the effects a good life.

@rg9749

Жыл бұрын

People need to take more responsibility for their own health and research. Medical doctor training is funded by the pharmaceutical industry, they are often unknowingly ignorant of what they don't know. A HUGE percentage of their training is what pill to give for any ill, not on prevention or cures. Next to zero education on nutrition whereas insufficient essential nutrients or too much toxic intake is responsible for many illnesses and symptoms and can be reverse by simple dietary and lifestyle changes. Over the years there has been more and more advertising on the media about going to see your doctor, making us a society very dependent on the doctor to take control of our health. It is very sad!

I am now 75 and remember seeing thalidomide babies when I was young in UK. Not something you forget.

@shananagans5

5 жыл бұрын

No doubt Eunice. I am in my 50's. The US avoided most of the thalidomide problems but even over here it wasn't uncommon to see someone that had been effected. I used to roller skate every weekend and one of the other regulars at the skating rink had her arm effected. I also went to collage with a woman that had all 4 of her limbs effected. I know she was an exchange student but, for the life of me, I can't recall where she was from. Anyways, I did a group project with her and it was heartbreaking. She had an amazing spirit. She wanted to experience everything life had to offer but was severely limited. She liked to grow things she could eat and she had big pots all over her back yard. A few of us got together and built a long elevated planting bed so she could get her wheelchair right up next to the plants. That summer she grew 8 or 10 big old stalks of corn right there in the middle of the city. She gave me a different perspective on my relatively mild disability.

@jfjc5694

5 жыл бұрын

Anthony Morgan wow 😮 that’s great your mother never took the nasty 🤢 💊 💊 pills 💊 💊

@sandijohnson4630

4 жыл бұрын

I remember seeing a few around the Los Angeles area, in the 70's.

@tashs9358

4 жыл бұрын

Anthony Morgan wow I’m reading so many of these stories of such close encounters.

I feel very empathetic towards these survivors. My own Mom had issues with morning sickness. I was born in 1963. This could be me.

@shelleynelson125

5 жыл бұрын

Manuela Darazsdi that’s what I was thinking too! I was born in 1963 and I have an older sister that it could have happened to! Morning sickness(real bad) runs in our family for generations, so scary.

@gimmedatstick

5 жыл бұрын

Me too, Manuela. I was born in the U.S. in 1963, and I am so thankful this drug wasn't available to be prescribed to my Mother--she had terrible morning sickness. I feel outrage on behalf of these people, and contempt for the government officials that failed them and their parents before their birth, and have failed them yet again now.

@Rel1369

5 жыл бұрын

Is this Club 63, same boat here. I know mum had issues with morning sickness and although I was after it was stopped, my sister was born April 61 so could have been close. I do remember when young, my cousin who had severe learning disabilities would go to a centre. We went there one day and there were quite a few girls there with small arms. I didn't understand it till many yrs later.

@aliyamoon80

5 жыл бұрын

I was fortunate. My mother didn't have morning sickness. Because she was a bit overweight, she was prescribed diet pills. She gained only 5 lbs during her pregnancy, and smoked the entire time. When she was admitted to the hospital in labor, she had a kidney infection that was so severe that she was septic. She had an emergency cesarean delivery, and both of us were so critically ill that we were in grave condition. I was born prior to Neonatal ICU units, and adult ICU units weren't common. My mother was too ill to see me for 2 weeks. Had she died, my father told me that he'd have abandoned me at the hospital. To know that your father would blame you for the death of your mother was too much to process. I never had a close relationship with my dad because of that. I was born with health issues. I had a minor limb deformity, and had epilepsy. Fortunately, my mother was accepting and loving. She was terrified of losing me when I was pregnant. I tried so hard to reassure her, but she was anxious until I safely delivered.

@Kloetenhenne

9 ай бұрын

​@@aliyamoon80and what does this have to do with any of this?

I remember reading about this heinous drug and the effects it had on the unborn, I became ill! It's a shame that the pharmaceutical company was never sued or required to compensate these innocent victims! Their courage and determination however makes them VICTORIOUS! My sister contracted polio after taking bad vaccine. When she was notified about a class-action lawsuit, she almost missed the deadline to join same. I thank God that the school nurse who dispensed the sugar cubes was still alive and she had plenty of evidence of the surgeries she had endured as a child!! She says she's grateful and thankful that she can walk, because two other classmates ended up on crutches. I still cry sometimes when I think of it. I pray that the government and the pharmaceutical company are exposed and they pay big time!! God bless you!

A memorial garden!!! What a pile of horse ish. Those brave victims deserve much more than that.

@tashs9358

4 жыл бұрын

Jo Drew I thought the same. A huge slap across the face. Surely this can’t be the end of it.

@theoneandonlyfalafel

4 жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t exactly call them “brave” per se. They were born with the deformities and had no complications that caused the deformities.

@123ls3

4 жыл бұрын

@@theoneandonlyfalafel so growing up being bullied and living life like that isn't brave?

@theoneandonlyfalafel

4 жыл бұрын

123 V Brave no. Endearing maybe.

@rhondagodwin3991

3 жыл бұрын

@@theoneandonlyfalafel ? ? ?

I was vacationing in Mexico a few years ago and was STUNNED to see this banned drug on the shelf...not even locked away but right out for public access. So pharm companies pulled it from most countries but then sent it off to not so regulated countries?!?!?

@PennyPaws4

5 жыл бұрын

Michelle Anderson Long ago I would have been horrified to learn that the drug was sent to poorer countries after it had been banned. Now, after my own nightmare with a prescribed drug, nothing surprises me. Clearly, the pharmaceutical company who made thalidomide decided to try to sell the leftover drug to folks that know nothing about the dangers of it. I'm not surprised AT ALL, though I am sickened.

@venus_envy

5 жыл бұрын

Obviously they care more about $$$ than humanity. So much injustice in the world! I wish there was a way to ensure that people who work in industries that can have affects on vast swathes of humanity for multiple generations on the cellular and genetic levels (pharmaceuticals, agriculture, etc.) would have to pass a test to prove they possessed at least a normal, healthy amount of empathy, because as of right now that seems sorely lacking in those in powerful positions.

@nancymuller3291

5 жыл бұрын

I read they are using it to treat something else but I forget what. It is still mindboggling.

@shananagans5

5 жыл бұрын

@@nancymuller3291 It's used for swelling associated with Hanson's Disease (leprosy) and it's also part of some cancer treatments. It caused birth defects because in prevented development of blood vessels needed to grow limbs. That same effect helps prevent some cancers from growing. If a tumor can't establish a blood supply it can't grow. It does have good uses but this is a good example of how we must know as much as possible about a drug before we start passing it out like candy. Lots of drugs are like guns. If you need it & it's used properly, it's a lifesaver. If it's in the wrong hands or if it's used improperly, it's a disaster.

@nancymuller3291

5 жыл бұрын

@@shananagans5 Thanks for the reply.

The Government may or may not have had the power to remove the drug from shelves, but they sure as hell had the power to inform the public of potential dangers. That is what they need to pay for, the lack of responsibility to release information that could of prevented many of these Survivors from being affected in the first place.

@VegemiteQueen1

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that is one pathetic as hell statement.

@jenwalsh4195

2 ай бұрын

Yes, the minister for health should have contacted the state governments to advise them of the imminent danger for the babies. I mean If it's up to each state, give them the informed choice, im sure they would have pulled the medicine off the shelves!

Heartbreaking. My mother was offered it in 1961 as she had bad sickness, but thank goodness she was always very sceptical about drugs and turned down her doctor's offer of thalidomide, or it could have been me too. Bless all of these people and their situation

I, too, am a thalidomide survivor. My biological mother took thalidomide before I was born.

@theoneandonlyfalafel

4 жыл бұрын

Damn bro.

My mother was offered thalidomide in 1959, she did not take it. I think this was because we were very poor and couldn't afford the prescription price. She was glad she didn't as when it came to light about the side effects of this drug.

We need more people like senator Jordan in government. Politicians like him, who genuinely care about the people, are difficult to come by, at least in my country.

So many able bodied people could look at this amazing couple as role models. Wonderful love story.

Seeing this lady with aged dear mother brought back my own experience with my mother and brought me to tears. My was mother who was 86 and very sick in a nursing home. I wheeled her outside to sit with her on the front porch in the sunshine as this was something she greatly loved to do, however on this day she looks at me and asked” Our you sorry baby?” to which I replied “ sorry for what mama?” She slowly looks up at me and said “ sorry I was your mother” at that moment my heart stopped beating and my entire life as I knew it would be forever changed. You see this was her way of not only letting me, her youngest child, her baby know she was dying but also that she was sorry any mistake that she may have made through the 49 years of my life. It was also at that moment that I knew the true definition of a “ Mothers Love” and the depths of Gods mercy. Without having to give my reply to her a moments though I said “ oh no Mama the Lord knew he was giving me the best mama and daddy he could ever give me. I would not trade you for anything or anyone in this world or the one after. You are my one and only mama and no one could have ever taken your place.”

Excuse me... a garden? What a slap in the face... they should be ashamed

@WAAOF1

5 жыл бұрын

The Australian government has gotten as bad as the US government.

@updownstate

5 жыл бұрын

@@WAAOF1 That's hard to do.

@WAAOF1

5 жыл бұрын

@@updownstate haha...yeah, but lately it sure seems like they've been working really hard at trying to catch up. Especially when it comes to removing people's freedoms. Gotta love govs. They want to be our nannies so bad.

@peacenow42

5 жыл бұрын

@@WAAOF1 another sheep crying "usa bahhhddd"

@peacenow42

5 жыл бұрын

@@updownstate two sheep crying "usa bahhhddd"

What i dont understand, is if this was known in 1961, why did I have several thalidomide kids in my grade at primary school in Brisbane, when I was born in 1970?

@chellesama8256

5 жыл бұрын

Because thalidomide is a very effective drug for its intended uses - it shouldn't have been used for morning sickness - and you can still get it today in 2019. Pharmacies are just very, very clear about the fact that you must use at least two forms of birth control while taking it and what the consequences are if you don't. I assume that your classmates' parents did not manage to prevent pregnancies while taking it.

@karolj.6775

5 жыл бұрын

@@chellesama8256 ... assumptions.... I'm assuming you are an idiot.

@awarenessvillage

5 жыл бұрын

@@chellesama8256 I doubt the drug had that warning in the 1960s. It was said in the video the Australian government didn't want to alarm its citizens, so they said nothing.

@madreep

5 жыл бұрын

Actually there are drugs out there that are still used today that are extremely dangerous for a developing fetus. In the states, Accutane is a big one. It caused similar effects to a developing fetus and worse. It is a medication to treat acne. They used to give it to anyone but these days it is reserved for the most severe cases. People who aren't of childbearing age are safe, but a woman who takes it needs to register for monitoring and has to take a pregnancy test every month unless they have had a hysterectomy. Pregnancy is absolutely not allowed within six months of ending the medication. It does not cause serious side effects to the person taking it, but it does cause serious damage to a fetus. I have taken Accutane fairly recently because I have a severe skin condition and nothing else helped. Accutane was a last ditch resort. It is very effective for those who cannot get pregnant.

@Junkinsally

5 жыл бұрын

Karol j. -😂😂 The only idiot here is you.

I must ask where do you find such a devoted husband like Andrew ?

@jackmars931

5 жыл бұрын

Well, unlike most women this lady probably decided to skip the "Bad boys" and actually take one of the "nice guys" that the other women passed over.

@sondereve

5 жыл бұрын

@@jackmars931 I would love to correct you and say no, most women don't want the bad boys, they just want someone who appreciates and loves them for them. This "bad boy" thing is just a trope...unrealistic. instead of thinking of it as the women's fault, maybe boys should try to be more down to earth..

@MissUnderstood-yi1zm

5 жыл бұрын

I'd love to know too!! I can't keep a relationship going good for more than a month!!!!

@sondereve

5 жыл бұрын

@@MissUnderstood-yi1zm I would say it's simple really...just give her your attention and care, try to understand her..I don't think being in a relationship with a girl is that difficult, but maybe it simply depends on the person

@MissUnderstood-yi1zm

5 жыл бұрын

@@sondereve I am a girl. A very underappreciated one with a lot to offer & a huge heart. 😔 (BTW.. love your username)

What a powerful and moving story. I am in awe of the courage and determination these people display in order to receive the justice they deserve.

May I say I am only around 8:40 into your vid but you were a gorgeous little one. I am so sorry our govt let you and your mother (as well as others) down but people like you make me so proud to see someone loud and proud living, loving life regardless of your issues. I wish you all the best with rightfully taking in the govt. Someone needs to be held accountable. Never doubt how beautiful you were as a bub and growing up and today xxxx

Lisa is really a treasure. So determined and a really lovely lady. She is so well loved and she deserves all of it. 🌺🌸

@kristiebiasa6334

3 жыл бұрын

what was the vaccine if u don't mind me asking?

@zipnlee5894

2 жыл бұрын

@@kristiebiasa6334 it wasn’t a vaccine. It is a drug called Thalidomide

This program elaborated on the future effects these people have to deal with. They deserve justice and recompense for their future care.

One of the reasons that I didn't have children is that I'm a DES daughter. Some of us have deformities that made childbearing of questionable possibility. I decided not to try to have a child because of unknown consequences in the second generation.. Few of the daughters I know decided to try. It surprised me to see so many children of Thalidomide survivors. Good for you, Aussies. I wish I'd had your courage.

@maryannebrown2385

5 жыл бұрын

My mother took DES when she was pregnant with my older sister. My sister got pregnant on her honeymoon, but then had difficulty getting pregnant with her second child. The third baby was a big surprise! All three children are grown and healthy. My nephew, the surprise baby, is 6’4” and was in the Marines.

@updownstate

5 жыл бұрын

@@maryannebrown2385 That's great. Happy to know everyone is well.

@maryannebrown2385

5 жыл бұрын

Diane Greene Aw, thanks. One problem my sister did have was from the DES was an incompetent cervix, which I understand was very common. Her last two children were preemies. My youngest nephew was born at 27 weeks, which was very scary. I have never seen a baby so tiny-I was terrified to go near him or hold him. Yet he is the one who is the 6’4” + Marine with no body fat, a six pack and rippling, bulging muscles. Unbelievable!

@adelekelly455

5 жыл бұрын

My mother took DES whilst pregnant with me. I have had four children, some difficulties in pregnancies.

@howiseeit5129

4 жыл бұрын

I was a DES daughter too.had agonising endometriosis,fibroids,double mastectomies from breast cancer and was only able to have one child. My estrogen production was crazy

I just want to say this is by far one of the best documentaries I have been lucky enough to watch.

I bawled my eyes out with this story- what a tragedy! My hat is off saluting these brave people and their families

I was born in 1957 in uk . My mum luckily was a few years before they handed them out. It’s about time they paid the people that suffered from them. I remember my mum talking about it in the 60’s . Such a terrible act by the government.

Wow I feel for her mother I couldn't imagine that moment she put the paper down 😔

Heartwarming story and what a wonderful family! All of you deserve so much more, what was done is absolutely criminal they knew and they allowed it to stay on the market. Keep up your fight your husband, son, daughter and Thalidomide survivors need you!

Lisa was my Teacher at Bendigo Tafe. Awesome woman and teacher 😊

there were some thalidomide kids born in the USA too but very few people know about them. The FDA stated the babies born from the effects of this drug in the US were the results of the mothers taking the drug that they obtained from Europe but this was not true. While thalidomide was blocked from prescription useage, it was permitted for study use. The survivors have been poorly compensated.

Beautiful dont stop fighting all the love in the world to you both thankyou for sharing this with me

everything is all about money

My grandmother was prescribed thalidomide but thankfully she never took it! It could have changed my fathers and aunties lives!

Born in 1961 ,my mom never had morning sickness . I have other health issues , but not so bad like those poor people.

Lisa you go girl. You are an inspiration to others. If you have a burning passion about something you can move mountains to accomplish your quest.

Shame on you Greg Hunt. Thankyou for sharing your story Lisa. You are a fighter in every sense of the world. Love and hugs to you x

When I was pregnant with my first baby in 1979, I was really sick. The doctor prescribed some pills (I think they were called Bendectin) and said that I could take them daily if needed and that more than one per day could be used. Luckily, our son was born healthy but 2 years later, they pulled this drug off the market because they said it could lead to birth defects! I was angry. Have they not learned anything from this tragedy?!

@carrueross2705

5 жыл бұрын

Elaine Gill I was prescribed the very same drug! I took one and for some reason just didn't feel safe about taking any more. My daughter was born in 1978 big and healthy thank God. And I remember reading later about that medicine being taken off the market. You just never know.

@surrayahsjewels

5 жыл бұрын

Carrue, this should not keep happening! I was very lucky because I took these pills for at least 6 months of my pregnancy...I feel we were very, very lucky...

@burning4rmwithin

5 жыл бұрын

After it was pulled, it went on a decades of study to prove its safety and effectiveness. It's back on the market and is now called diclegis. It's one of the very few fda approved drugs for pregnancy... also the most studied drug. It's just a combo of a antihistamine and vitamin b6 in one pill. I'm currently just on b6 and unisom (fda approved), which is basically the same. Diclegis is very pricey. Just like every drug, there are side effects and it might not work for everyone. I still have nausea from it but at least I'm not throwing up 3-5 times a day after eating and drinking. Doctor has prescribed stronger drugs that are considered "safe" but is not fda approved. I have them but i didn't take any due to possible side effects and birth defects.

@surrayahsjewels

5 жыл бұрын

@@burning4rmwithin....Wow, I did not know that. It's awful being that sick, isn't it?! A person has to be smart about taking some of those other drugs but when you are young and sick, we tend to do what the doctor says.

@burning4rmwithin

5 жыл бұрын

@@surrayahsjewels people aren't perfect and so is science. I'm halfway in my pregnancy and haven't gained back the weight that i lost in my first trimester. But the doctor said the baby is fine and healthy so I'm not too worried. I've always joked with my coworkers on how i wouldn't survive natural selection if it weren't for modern medicine. There are some women who have great pregnancies with no complications, and there are ones who can barely survive pregnancy without medical intervention. And I've tried every natural remedy from saltines, ginger, to acupuncture and acupressure. Nothing worked so i had to turn to the safer choices of drugs which was the unisom and vitamin b6. I've gone to different ob/gyn and nurses, they all have different opinions on drugs. The nurses would push for zofran and the ob/gyn would recommend reglan. I've gone to the hospital for iv fluids due to dehydration from the vomiting, and they asked if i wanted any of those drugs in the iv, i still turned it down. I'm not much of a believer in taking drugs unless it's required. I had my first flu shot when i found out i was pregnant because i didn't want to deal with getting the flu while carrying. And i survived the 2017-2018 flu... one of the worst strains of the flu in a long time. Safety for the baby comes first, not my beliefs. I appreciate everything modern medicine has done, but i don't rely on it unless it's necessary to save a life. Some has its side effects, but it's your choice when it comes to life or death. If my pregnancy goes well and I'm healthy, i plan on an all natural birth at home. But of course, i would still have a hospital date just in case of emergencies.

The coolest family...story of strength, courage, determination. The mum has the roar of a Lion, much respect, what a story❤️

Oh that was so much B.S. how did the government not make the states pull that dangerous medication from the pharmacies?! It was criminal negligence of the governments part that allowed all these people to suffer unnecessarily. How absolutely cruel. I have to praise the survivors for their strength and the families that rallied with them. All the best to them.

25.07 = Senator Jordan Steele-John, describing "Andrew McManus", swearing - then clearly repeated the same word again "........the shit you'd have to face". Senator Jordan Steele-John, is a quality Politician. We'd do very well getting more like him.

Thalidomide was not FDA approved in the U.S. Those who rail against a strict FDA should think twice.But It was okayed for US testing and for use in other countries. Lisa is right, they need assistance as the victims age.

Never take medication prescribed for someone else. Try to avoid taking medication during pregnancy.

My friend from school had an older sister affected by thalidomide. She had no arms, just one little flipper-like hand protruding from one shoulder and short, stubby legs. She was full time in a wheelchair and lived in a children’s hospital run by an order of nuns. I went once with the family to visit Colleen. It was just as described, a single flipper hand and short, squat legs and curled feet. What amazed me was that Colleen could talk, she went to school at the hospital, belonged to the Brownies, liked popular music, danced in her chair, and by leaning way over, she could write and loved to finger paint! She voraciously read, her favorite books being Nancy Drew mysteries, same as me! She turned the pages with her tongue and lips! I guess I assumed she was mentally abnormal. Nothing could be further than that! By the time we left, I’d forgotten about her being Kate’s “not normal” sister.

A tragic story, but this family is so loving and caring and supportive. They seem so well adjusted emotionally, but the trials and tribulations they are still going through, hats off to them all. What strength they have, they are amazing and should be admired.

The current minsiter has to be kidding regarding a memorial garden right? What a disgrace, keep fighting Peter Gordon for the rights of these individuals who have endured so much through their lives due to a known drug that caused birth defects which the Minister of Health at the time had informed knowledge of the dangers "Failed" to notify the public of Australia. I was angered that a Goverment Minister for Health of all things would act in such an incompentant way that ultimately caused a number of mothers to take the drug that caused unnecessary birth defects during which time this henious drug should of been recalled, removed from sale and destroyed. Both drug companies and the Australian government have the opportunity to right this wrong and act in a prompt time frame to compensate these Talidomide survivors.

Frances Oldham Kelsey. Frances Kathleen Oldham Kelsey, CM (July 24, 1914 - August 7, 2015) was a Canadian-American pharmacologist and physician. As a reviewer for the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), she refused to authorize thalidomide for market because she had concerns about the drug's safety.

Honestly, this makes me so angry that pharmaceutical companies are allowed to do this in the world. What sadistic people they must be to believe that money is more important than an innocent child and their families. I was talking to my mum about this earlier today and she told me that my auntie was born with a hole in her heart as a side effect of a different drug that my grandma took when she was pregnant. This video already had such an impact on me and then to realise that my family had been impacted by drugs that people were well aware was hurting people just shocked me again. I'm just glad that even though people have been physically and emotionally affected by this, there are still so many more amazing and strong survivors that have and will continue to impact this world in such a positive way. I haven't even finished watching the video but I already just felt so strongly about supporting the survivors and their families. I stand behind you guys 100%

I'm so glad that the thalidomide didn't inhibit brain development in those children. I truly hope they when the fight against the AUSTRALIAN GOVERNMENT in their fight. These victims are smart and deserve to have the government pay for their ignoring the blatant information that this was causing This! God bless these survivors and stay strong. You were born for a reason, and this just may be It!

@hahna77

5 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! Unlike the schedule of drugs pushed on children, teens & elderly today, that most definitely affects their brain. It's terrifying, and the victims are increasing every day.

Government > pharmecutical company investors , is there really a big difference ? Opioid problem in the U . S. Is a major problem also .

@jfjc5694

5 жыл бұрын

Yes that’s so true

I have two nieces who are now in their mid 50's, both of whom are severely distorted in their arms and feet. They've struggled all their lives.

Lisa is just absolutely adorable & what a little spit fire! It’s devastating that they still haven’t taken responsibility for their actions. I was born in 61 & this could very easily have been me. Prayers for sweet Lisa & her family. 🙏💙🙏

I have a friend that his mother was given this and his arms are like these ladies, he work very hard daily to do anything on his own and this is in the USA

@rubiscas

5 жыл бұрын

Was he born in the US? If so, you know a very rare and unlucky guy. Thalidomide was never approved here so under 50 babies were affected.

@Catlady1966

5 жыл бұрын

@@rubiscas yes he was Born in the USA they did give it for a short time. he would like to talk to the ladies in the video any idea how he could contact them. he has a lot of questions as he was abandoned at Birth

@SuperMrsMar

5 жыл бұрын

@@Catlady1966 if he was abandoned at birth, how does he know his mother was given this for morning sickness? I'm not trying to be mean or anything, I'm just confused. Birth defects happen even without exposure to prescription drugs, I have a friend who was born with only a partial arm and is too young to have been exposed. Was there a test they were able to do, or specific characteristics?

9:00 The midwife screamed and fled the room. Disgusting. A midwife should know better than cause that kind of distress. Hope that was her last delivery.

The government took the cowards way out by saying they didn’t have the power to remove drugs from the market. They still had a moral obligation to report the findings of the dangers of thalidomide so at least people would be informed about it and less likely to take the drug. So many children would have been saved from suffering severe deformities if they had of at least made it public knowledge.

This could have been me. My mum was pregnant with me at this time and had terrible morning sickness, but she always refused to take medication or allow us to have innoculations, when me and my sis were small. Thankfully, she had a mind of her own.

What a story. It brought tears to my eyes. Thanks for putting Thalidomide away forever. YOU are a ANGEL!!!!!!

What a lovely couple and family. Wish them the best!

It’s mind boggling that these folks have yet to receive reasonable compensation.

I had only heard of Thalidomide from the Billy Joel song "We Didn't Start the Fire". This is much much more than I thought it was

typical.. our government passes the buck and blames the state governments for not preventing this. That is absurd, I hope these victims win the compensation they need.

They could not withdrew the medicine as per the government, but how about warning pregnant mothers of the dangers. My siblings were born in 1960 and 1961 respectively, I have always been aware of the devastation this drug caused so many parents and children. It is sad to say that profits for pharmaceutical companies always trump human lives. Just know that we around the world, in your age group has never forgotten about you.

These victims deserve justice. And we all need to raise our consciousness about one thing: pharmaceutical drugs ALWAYS have at least SOME dangers and drawbacks, and wh ile they still have their place, they will NEVER approach the value of preventing and treating as MUCH as possible through more natural and holistic means: nutrition, probiotics, herbal medicine, etc. These alternatives hold EXTREME opportunity to reap benefits of human scientific achievement without the pitfalls of BigPharma.

@hunterwhitaker9220

5 жыл бұрын

Gabbie Show Showstoppers Amen! Speaking of pharmaceutical drugs always having some kind of danger and drawbacks, I had a neighbor that committed suicide out of the blue that was never previously depressed before. He was graduating college, got accepted into the grad school he wanted, and literally just got back from a missions trip to Africa. The only difference was that he changed his allergy medication, and then got prescribed tamiflu because he got the flu, and somehow both of those medications caused him to be suicidal. Tamiflu has a warning that in rare cases, people may have suicidal thoughts/hallucinations but I guess you never think it’s going to actually happen to you or someone you know until it actually does... it’s so sad

What about Debendox in the eighties. It was prescribed for morning sickness. Babies were born with hearing loss etc,

@jodieelizabeth4905

5 жыл бұрын

Patsy Hodge I am a Debendox baby born in 1976. I was born missing 3 limbs. My mother was prescribed it from 1970 onwards in Australia...luckily all my siblings were unaffected but as child 5 I was born with a severe physical disability. There is still a complete failure to even acknowledge what doctors refer to as “the Debendox debacle”.

@SparkyOne549

3 жыл бұрын

My mother tells me she was on a thalidomide drug when she was pregnant with me ((1971). She was prescribed it after her husband died while she was pregnant with me, the docs told her that it would calm her down and me, so she wouldn’t miscarry during that stressful time. I was born perfect......Fast forward to the last 10 years, I have so many food allergies, and intolerances, I have an autoimmune disease, many vision issues with amblyopia.... and more. I am positive it was a thalidomide drug that did all this to me.

@freedomofspeech766

3 жыл бұрын

@@jodieelizabeth4905 So sorry Jodie ... I hope they have compensated you, although no amount of money could ever take away the pain of what you've been through, but it can help to provide you with some kind of financial relief for your future. God bless and keep you safe.

omg i feel so bad for her mom...she must have felt so guilty.

Very professional reaction from the nurses, to scream and run out. That's how to reassure and calm a patient.

I'm surprised that the government didnt bury everything about that drug! That paperwork seemed very damming! Good for the survivors!

I would marry Andrew in a heartbeat! What a Great Catch!

Deliberately keeping the population sick and dependent is good for business.

@awarenessvillage

5 жыл бұрын

Disgusting, but often true.

@nicoladavies3391

5 жыл бұрын

It is if healthcare is a business. It’s the opposite in a public health system.

Idk if they mentioned this, thalidomide works by preventing new blood vessels from growing in the womb so limbs are misshapen. But today it can help with certain cancers or diseases that target blood vessels.

My mother got offered this for more morning sickness in 1962. Mever toke a pill

@maryvonneadams9378

5 жыл бұрын

My mother was offered this too when she was pregnant with me in 1962 in the UK but as she didn't like tablets didn't take them.

@manueladarazsdi9675

5 жыл бұрын

You both dodged a bullet...

@SpiritBear12

5 жыл бұрын

@@manueladarazsdi9675 That's exactly what I was going to say.

@Kt-cn2rq

5 жыл бұрын

@@SpiritBear12 exactly I feel like the prenatal medicine they give you is a waste. If eating a balanced diet you wouldn't need the extra vitamins. I tried to take them and made me more sick so looked at what's inside of them and just got it from nature 😂

Well done, you are all amazing and good luck

I was born in 1962, in Cincinnati Ohio. I have short arms, but not as extreme as these brave women. I had to alter my bike steering wheels a bit. I can drive, but need a stool to reach in the kitchen and market. The drug caused autism and other issues as well.

Lisa, you are beautiful whatever you do!❤️

I’m one, and it sucks at age of nearly 59 lm still getting treated bad by cruel people.

@freedomofspeech766

3 жыл бұрын

Ignore these people, if you can call them that.... remember you are a special person. Wishing you lots of peace, love and happiness on this journey called life.

do not underestimate the ability of Australian governments to treat the Australian people like we are human waste the current is a deceptive underhanded group of lying effluent.

In the TV series Call the Midwife they deal with this issue from the first birth in Poplar ( believed to be the fictional character “Susan Mullucks”and the Mother took her sisters Distival. I can’t remember the year but I believe it to be about 1960-1962? In the next season her mother takes “Susan” ( who is always covered up) to register her for preschool and the director tells her they don’t take “sick” children. This prompts the Dr to send them to a small rehab that looked after veterans but now looks after Thalidomide children. Here they meet other families( this is in UK) with this program in its infancy. This series is historically correct and was not my first experience with a person affected by this drug. I was 20 yrs old born in 1958 and my brothers friend was “only” missing a part of his left arm. He was 2 yrs older than me. Now in CTM they state the first Thalidomide sufferers were in Germany as early as 1958 but that has to be drug company propaganda. This young man was born in 1956 in the UK living in Canada. In the series the little boy we meet has no arepas and is deaf so his Mother takes him out of the program. It goes on to the families joining a support group an them sharing their stories using real photos of children affected by thalidomide. I hope they write “Susan” and her family into these next 2 years of the series so we can follow what happened to her. She has shoulders with fingers and hip joints with twisted feet. Susan’s storyline is gut wrenching to follow because people can be so ignorant and the love of her siblings is so pure. The gist of this is it was known and not told to medical professionals by the drug company. The scenes where the GP gets his letter from the Board of Health are extremely sad

If a doctor tells me is ok to take drugs while pregnant, then is time to change doctors. Woman should know, never take any kind of drugs while pregnant. Not pregnant, do your homework about the medication you are taking, always!

20:54 "Were not going to do anything." Omg. Public not notified.

I believe my mother took this drug, perhaps second-hand, in the seventies, as I was born with a cleft hand and no explanation as to why I was born with this deformity. She thinks its cute to say I had my hand in my mouth while I was in her belly so I prevented it from forming correctly. My whole life ruined because of something she did and not even ownership or an explanation. It's really frustrating.

@jodieelizabeth4905

5 жыл бұрын

Justiceforall in 1970’s Australia the next generation of “morning sickness” drug was called Debendox

I can identify with this time. As a sister in the Labour ward of a large hospital, the doctor responsible for the introduction of this drug into Australia, had patients at that facility.

The government of the time and now should step up to employ the right compensation for wonderful people as lisa and the survivors of this hideous drug its wrong that nothing is done back in the day to stop this then wake up government OK. I thought were Australian in this case its not true blue.

GOD BLESS YOU ALL!

omg those poor babies!!! my heart breaks for them :( so unfair

My only question is a legal one. If the prescription was not hers and was her sons, is the AU gov responsible because she took a prescription that was not hers? I completely understand where they are all coming from though. Thalidomide never should have made it to AU in my opinion if they did have any idea (* edit:information) that it could possibly cause both defects. It broke my heart when her mom was talking about her guilt. That made me sad because she had no idea and couldn’t have known. That responsibility lies on the govt and not the moms given the drug.

It's shocking that there was no testing done to see if it was safe for pregnant women.

@beepersify

5 жыл бұрын

Susan Smith you can’t test things on pregnant women, that’s unethical. Generally, things aren’t prescribed if it isn’t known if it is safe for pregnant women. But they did know from the beginning it wasn’t safe bc the first pregnant women taking it had disfigured babies.

@Chiccaboom611

5 жыл бұрын

Susan Smith their really is not way to test safety for pregnant humans. Basically they think it is safe, and offer it then as “should be safe”. I had this even now. With Zofran..now has chances for congenital heart defects. It didn’t happen to my babies, but all scary.

Where I live there's five major medical facilities within a total of 25 to 30 miles between all of them. Those are all just off a major hwy, positioned like a Quick Trip. Then there's 4 more even larger facilities clustered 15 to 20 miles further down the road. Business is booming!

@ramseysaiymeh3377

5 жыл бұрын

Quick trip isn't everywhere, infact it's only in a couple states m, I'm from Tulsa,Ok and there everywhere there, but I live in LA and there isn't one store here

@shanatinnin8388

5 жыл бұрын

Ramsey Saiymeh You catch my drift don't you? I could have said McDonald's, but they're more plentiful in the area I speak of and I can't use a reference from a different state, because I don't live in a different one.

What wonderful people i only pray i could be half the. Person these people are

@hazza.s2249

3 жыл бұрын

If you were half the people these were then you would only have a chest and a head, everything else would be missing

The money that was going to be used to build a memorial for the victims could of easily been given to the victims. That is very sad. I worked for a big Pharma company in my early 20’s and that solidified my decision to stay as healthy as possible without the use of any medicine aka drugs. I’d rather die before I ingest that rubbish.

I looked after a girl in England that had flip hands and feet no arms and legs! Other Thalidamide people visited her! ❤

An absolute dereliction of duty of care by the Australian government in knowingly witholding vital information to enable pregnant women to protect themselves from ingesting such a harmful product which had such catastrophic devestating intergenerational consequences. Knowing Hunt was responsible for such a pitiful response does not surprise me in the least.

I am a 1963 baby too! I haven’t ask my mom yet if she was offered it!

Money hungry companies with no regard for human life !

Praying history doesn’t repeat in 2021 💉

Thank Allah our country didn't take this drug we already have enough sick people. Thanks to a guy who researched and blocked its way. By the way in medical uni, they mention this accident a lot. They come and go say thalidomide even there is no affected person in our country

Now they expect mothers to trust the jab? :/ it’s so conflicting…the pain the mothers eyes is too much too handle :(

What a wonderful man ! Not to many good men left ! Nice to see God putting the good with the good !she is very PRITTY LADY , AND IS Probably BEAUTIFUL INSIDE NO DOUBT.

@Jolenesmart1980

5 жыл бұрын

God? Where was god when they were ill...was this gods will .what a joke

@hahna77

5 жыл бұрын

@@Jolenesmart1980 the bad things of the world weren't caused by God, but man, following after the ways of Satan. Greed, murder, hate, evil, all the things God has warned us against. He gave us a Garden and instructions to live our best possible life. He's only allowing Satan to rule for a short time to test mankind & see who will follow the rules and remain faithful to live out Eternity in the next life of Paradise

Without being rude would like to know how much diagio or even before the exact amount of compo they got

When my parents were in college and had my brother in 1957 and they lived next door to a couple on campus who had twins at same time. My mom would always talk about how the couple needed money so they got paid to give it TO ONE IF THE TWINS.

@Jolenesmart1980

5 жыл бұрын

Whaaaaat what happened etc

@awarenessvillage

5 жыл бұрын

Oh no! That's terrible. I don't doubt that's been done many times.

@cynthiaettinger9730

5 жыл бұрын

jase n jo jase n jo sorry I meant to say that my parents had no idea what happened to the twins but as time went on and more information about chemicals came out they were more and more concerned and always wondered what had happened to them. Ugh! Can you imagine???

Unfortunately, you can't pay the bills with flowers from the garden they planted in the name of the survivors. Don't give up your court claim. The federal government did not take financial responsibility for not taking action but they said it was the state's responsibility. The states have already been found guilty FOR you by the federal gov.

My husband could have been a thalidomide baby. His mother took these tablets. My husband was born in 1982 though. Makes me wonder where she got the tablets? Surely it couldn't have been prescribed by any doctor