I’m mexican 🇲🇽, and Im hearing this strong attitude symphony in the middle of the night in the southeast jungle (of my country) with earphones and thunderstorm ⛈... muchas gracias ☺️

@moussetache1815

4 жыл бұрын

Ola Hermano, France here. I love being able to get some kind of connection through music. Another kind of jungle here (Paris suburb) but I'm discovering this beautiful work with earphones too. It's very hot here, and we're having storms since a couple of days. I hope you're in a good and safe area of your country and enjoying life as much as you can. Cheers,

I've studied on Dubois counterpoint manual, and I must say that reading his comments and examples I got quite the impression of a rigourous and scholastic man. Dubois was the proud son of the well established romantic musical palette, and to that expressive framework he held firmly. So it is not surprising that his music feels a little behind its times, but absolutely well constructed with really nicely interwoven themes

@user-jz2sx3ij1x

Ай бұрын

Да,Вы правы,бесконечно правы,мне очень понравился Ваш отзыв...❤

Our deep appreciation for KZread and for those who find and post all of these beautiful works! I especially appreciate the pre-WW1 composers and those who, even if they continued to compose after WW1, did not succumb to dissonance.

@RanBlakePiano

4 жыл бұрын

Warren Malach well said but I m more tolerant of spice

J'avais l'habitude d'écouter cela et de m'asseoir dans mon salon l’après-midi, un verre de vieille prune à la main pour regarder mes plantes pousser, elles étaient des plantes saines ! Je pense que mes plantes ont aimé la musique de Théodore Dubois aussi !

@leopanthera8261

5 жыл бұрын

Monsieur Cerise. J'apprécie beaucoup vos commentaires chaque fois qu’ils apparaissent sur un si grand nombre de ces merveilleux articles. Ils reflètent presque toujours mes propres opinions et réflexions sur cette œuvre merveilleuse et toujours nouvelle (à mes oreilles). J'ai hâte d'entendre de nombreuses autres œuvres merveilleuses de compositeurs aussi obscurs qu'un peu obscurs, qui ont travaillé avec beaucoup d'amour pour leurs créations remarquables. Et aussi, je prévois de lire vos pensées sur ces créations.

@MegaCirse

5 жыл бұрын

Merci mon bon ! Ce fut un régal de vous lire ;) www.wix.com/evicsal/cirse

@Franciaeregimaxima

5 жыл бұрын

Satané hippie de mer** pas moyen d'être tranquille !

@MegaCirse

5 жыл бұрын

@@Franciaeregimaxima A joke ?........... ;-)

@MegaCirse

5 жыл бұрын

@@Franciaeregimaxima j'apprécie par ailleurs l'idée d'être un hippie de mer ...... Bonne journée ;)

I love the homage to France around the 35 minute mark. This is a wonderful symphony deserving of more exposure, and a wonderful performance. Thank you for sharing it with us.

@gabrielkaz5250

4 жыл бұрын

35:36

@user-jz2sx3ij1x

Ай бұрын

Браво!!!!❤

Sarrusophone! If you check out the score, and listen closely, you'll see and hear an instrument that's maybe unfamiliar: the Sarrusophone, part of a family of instruments made by Gautrot and named after a Bandmaster by the name of Sarrus. They are metal and fingered like a saxophone, but played with a double reed, and made in *nine* different ranges. They were meant for military bands to replace the too-quiet orchestral double reeds. For the most part, they did not take hold. The only one that really had any kind of run was this very lowest one, the contrabass. It was a brief trend to put it in orchestral music, from roughly 1890-1920, and then disappeared, permanently for the most part. Besides this tune, Dukas' Sorcerer's Apprentice contra solo and parts from early Ravel, Debussy, and Stravinsky utilized this instrument. It's not your imagination, it's a little harsh; part of the reason you don't see them. Still, it's cool to hear someone faithful to the composer's wishes. While the parts are today always played on contrabassoon, in this recording it's the genuine article! Bzzzzzzzzzz

Another enjoyable piece by a composer who I had never heard of before. I'm also pleasantly surprised by seeing the first painting by Monet that I like.

@darrylschultz9311

5 жыл бұрын

Yes,about time Monet pulled his finger out.All his other stuff-pure rubbish!

@JoelLeBras

3 жыл бұрын

This picture is far from being the best one by Monet. It is dark and heavy when all what Money did was light and full of light. Il you enjoy dark and heavy painting, have a look at Redon.

@notnek202

2 жыл бұрын

The impressionists suck.

Utterly marvelous!

Took a little time to unfold, but Dubois took me to being amazed.

Kuhlau, friend, ¡¡¡YOU ARE THE CHAMPION OF THE CLASSIC MUSIC!!!

This is a very enjoyable symphony, the composition of an older composer which I believe reflects the Romantic era rather than the early 20th century in which it was written.

@feraudyh

6 жыл бұрын

I agree with you.

@Ehedquist

4 жыл бұрын

I have noticed the major change in music styles pre WW1 and post WW1. I enjoy pre WW1 symphonies.

Dubois, mestre do polifonismo, de quem até posso dizer haver sido meu mestre (apesar do meu nascimento haver ocorrido 10 anos após sua morte), porque seu tratado de contraponto fez parte da base de estudos no curso superior de composição! Sòmente lamento não haver atingido a delicadeza serena desta maravilha que deleita os que tem na espiritualidade sua qualidade maior.

@waltersteinbaum2627

4 жыл бұрын

Curso superior onde? Talvez estudamos no mesmo local

These piece demonstrates that there are some many other notable composers from this time period that are just as good as known composers and gives the finger to people who believe that the romantic and classical periods were just composed by a few decent composers.

Inexpressibly beautiful. For a permanent belle epoque.

Again a marvelous discovery. I know Dubois' organ music, but nothing more. I am smitten with this beautiful symphony!

The second movement sounds sometimes like Borodin or Rimski Korsakov. Beautiful work.

El primer movimiento es realmente bueno, excelente obra!

Mmm I just love a good ad right in the middle of a climax 🤦

@ewaldsteyn469

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, me too. Just past 20 minutes and already had 2 wonderful adds. Perhaps Dubois' music would have been more popular if he did not add to many adds in the score.

@maxlinder5262

2 жыл бұрын

I like to climax also ... NOT with an ad...

Please no commercials during the performance.😒

Nice

le vrai titre : La Pointe de la Hève à marée basse

Una gran bella sinfonia. Non si puo' paragonarla con un lavoro di ....Saint Saens come ha commentato l'amico Bordes .Saint Saens è un'altra cosa, anche perché sono due stili diversi. È comunque un lavoro di grande fascino, abilmente orchestrato. Gran bell'inserimento,complimenti.

@user-jz2sx3ij1x

3 ай бұрын

Однако с Сен-Сансом очень созвучно,как раз то стилистика то и схожа,если глубже покопаться,это целая тема для разговора....

@user-jz2sx3ij1x

3 ай бұрын

Но совсем близко...совсем рядом с Сен-Сансом,в некоторых местах и вовсе не отличишь,чудеснейшая симфония....

Impressionism music? Here and there, eventually - but clearly there is also some Saint-Saens, Bruckner, youngs Hindemith and Sibelius - briefly, apassionate "musique d´expression angoisée". A note for 2nd movement, reflecting the path of Debussy. Overall, quite a gift - a revelation. Merci.

21:27

-names his symphiny Frech -sounds like Richard Wagner

9:00 Rauchenecker 3

9:56

35:00

2:26

...

PS - Sorry, speaking of Dubois without referring to Berlioz would be elementary gross negligence.

Well, it's better than "The Last Words of Christ." And also much of his organ music.

French music is at its best when it is French, not German for example

Théodore Dubois n'a pas écrit que son traité d'harmonie et la toccata pour orgue, c'est un très grand musicien très injustement oublié.

14:36 Hobbits

De ces compositeurs surdoués techniquement comme Saint-Saëns, mais qui n'ont pas employé leur imagination à créer une expression musicale vraiment personnelle. Dommage, il écrit de belle oeuvres dans un univers sonore banal, tout y est prévisible, on voit d'avance où mènent les effets, mais aucune n'est vraiment prenante et inoubliable... à ma connaissance.

@MegaCirse

5 жыл бұрын

Par ailleurs l'oeuvre de Saint Saens établit une telle synthèse de la vision frelatée et de la spiritualité musicale de son époque que c’en est vertigineux !..... :-)

@virginiuspharodor2241

5 жыл бұрын

@@MegaCirse Intéressante observation ! Je crois qu'ainsi est bien défini ce qui fait son originalité, une sorte de grand écart.(Je parle de S Saens).

@matthieumainguy3825

4 жыл бұрын

Si, moi il y a un passage qui m'a marqué de par le fait qu'il me procure des frissons à chaque écoute : 11:35 Après chacun ses goûts ! Selon moi il a tout de même usé d'une imagination fort plaisante.

@onecello9577

4 жыл бұрын

Pire encore, l'esprit de cette symphonie n'a rien de français: le titre affecte un certain patriotisme mais la charpente est bien allemande. Le dévelopement du 1er mvt (7-8') est digne des plus piètres compositions d'outre-Rhin. Ce Monsieur avait osé refuser la candidature de Ravel au Prix de Rome et s'est refugié dans ces banalités après sa déconfiture de 1905... Désolé, mais l'entrée grotesque du ronflant contrebasson (14' 30") en guise d'introduction de choral n'est pas l'oeuvre d'un techniquement surdoué!

@xavierbordes1373

4 жыл бұрын

Je suis d'accord (parlant de Saint-Saens) mais sans exagération. Le concerto pour piano "Égyptien" est une oeuvre de qualité. Les compétences techniques de Saint-Saens ne sont pas douteuses, il sait orchestrer. Pour l'affaire du contrebasson et de Théodore Dubois en général : les psychanalystes de la musique notent que cet instrument est inconsciemment employé dans un contexte "anal", et que le but de cet emploi est précisément le "grotesque" comme vous le remarquez. Il est quand même globlament regrettable que ce compositeur ait manqué de liberté et de génie inventif. Cependant, tout n'est pas complètement à jeter, quand même une moitié au moins, voire les trois quarts de son oeuvre pourraient avoir disparu sans grand inconvénient...

Pleasant, worth listening to, but not remarkable.

@davebarclay4429

3 жыл бұрын

Just like most of Dubois' organ music, which is his best-known oeuvre. It's an interesting coincidence that the conductor is the son of one of Europe's finest organists.