This 'Toofty' method you mention sounds pretty good, might have to try it

@ZestyJesus

4 жыл бұрын

More I think about it the more I realize I owe you, thank your sir

@Toofty

4 жыл бұрын

Not at all! It's just the scientific method, I can hardly claim ownership to that :) Great video btw and love the thumbnail too

@zlatko8051

4 жыл бұрын

TooftyTV The Mann has a PhD

@human6310

4 жыл бұрын

Beautiful.

@blob5907

4 жыл бұрын

how much more damage can a jag built sentry deal compared to a similarly placed sentry with stock

and the winner is >Eureka effect

@bloodybladenum1920

4 жыл бұрын

Finally another engi of true taste

@rattlemebones7413

4 жыл бұрын

finally a man of culture

@KwassaKwassa_

4 жыл бұрын

that 100 les metal while uprgaedibng t;lehegportes is juts too godo

@MrError-fm7rq

4 жыл бұрын

@@KwassaKwassa_ sir did u have a stroke from typing that?

@KwassaKwassa_

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrError-fm7rq nnoo my cat rrnan acoros miy kyeborad

As an engineer main, I can proudly say Gunslinger

@kannatheweeb8836

4 жыл бұрын

F

@aganaom1712

4 жыл бұрын

The ultimate masterpiece of technology, science and psychological terror

@TeleTrenta

4 жыл бұрын

as a tf2 player main i can proudly say i despise your kind.

@herald8765

4 жыл бұрын

@@TeleTrenta my dawg even I don't place mini-sentries on hightower, trust me

@TeleTrenta

4 жыл бұрын

@@herald8765 youve been cleared of your sins

Boy, he be speaking Texan

@SirErnestBob

4 жыл бұрын

he be Texan

@MLGProMaster-tu9tz

4 жыл бұрын

he be

@akumu2225

4 жыл бұрын

He

@bumblebot2458

4 жыл бұрын

H

@soopershpee5842

4 жыл бұрын

.

At first I though he was doing the accent because "heHe engineer is texan lol" but then I remembered Zesty is Texan. Good on you man, as a fellow Texan, I say bring out the accent more often.

@gotchupham8152

4 жыл бұрын

itschips hey I’m a Texan as well, how cool!

@Guppyg53

4 жыл бұрын

Engie's accent is hot

@xXSimplySammyXx

4 жыл бұрын

Texan Engie here

@nottoofast

4 жыл бұрын

Same, dude. The whole time I thought it was a little joke.

@Trovosity-Entertainment

4 жыл бұрын

Im texan too i was like oo

As a engineer main i can proudly say: Eureka effect

@QualityDoggo

4 жыл бұрын

Miki Legends *teleports behind you*

@xeeeeiijj

4 жыл бұрын

nothin' personnel kid

@SinkPisserthePlumbingPlauge

4 жыл бұрын

Eureka effect and gunslinger

@simon1334

4 жыл бұрын

Finnaly, someone who has a little more of brain

@L0V3V4MP1R3

4 жыл бұрын

I unironically love the Eureka Effect

Engie's main problem is his slow setup speed so the fact that the jag helps so much with that honestly just makes it feel so nice to use

@Based_Stuhlinger

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed, even with sapper vulnerability it's still by far worth it.

@ananmaysahu4563

3 жыл бұрын

@@Based_Stuhlinger i use the jag during setup and then switch. or just use the rescue ranger.

Jag: Better offense wrench (for those who don't want to use Gunslinger) Stock: Better defense Wrench This is what I have pulled from this video

@PancakemonsterFO4

4 жыл бұрын

After you get used to the jags swing speed the regular wrench just takes forever to get built

@psycosanches589

4 жыл бұрын

@@PancakemonsterFO4 But the other side of argument is after using the stock wrench for so long, you're buildings feellike they are just dying all the time. This was literally how his analysis at the end of the video went.

@PancakemonsterFO4

4 жыл бұрын

@@psycosanches589 i use the rescue ranger all the time so unless my metal is low i usually remotely repair it (or teleport it for 100 fucking metal, i want to kill the asshole who got it that bullshit nerf wich literally ruins years of Engi Experience) to not get caught in the blast radius and then push back with wrangler. It makes a soldier unclip most of the rockets to force him to reload and then he's basically fucked

@bloodybladenum1920

4 жыл бұрын

Me over here using my Eureka to both defend and play offensively

@PancakemonsterFO4

4 жыл бұрын

@@bloodybladenum1920 you mean the quick setup telewrench? Not really a fan of it unless i try playing ninjaneer

Obviously The Machete is the best. Duh

@sullgames

4 жыл бұрын

Has the stock wrench's stats but is also sharp and pointy like the Jag... perfection.

@stratsboneless6270

4 жыл бұрын

@@sullgames perfection

@jx22223

4 жыл бұрын

the machete mechanic

@vbgvbg1133

4 жыл бұрын

Why not the Pan Pioneer

@diegodankquixote-wry3242

4 жыл бұрын

What about the Happy Houston Helper Hammer?

Jag and Rescue Ranger have more synergy with each other. If you're gonna change your wrench to Jag, you might as well change the entire loadout.

@bruschetta7711

4 жыл бұрын

It's true, because u heal with the rescue ranger becuase jag's healing sucks

@hoarsebard

4 жыл бұрын

Yes??? Change the loadout. Take the extra healing on the stock and swap out the rescue ranger for a stock shotty or if you think you're hot shit, the widowmaker.

@PancakemonsterFO4

4 жыл бұрын

I use both regularly anyway so that's not really a problem, if you play defense you propably should use wrangler to spycheck anyway

@TrickyRover

4 жыл бұрын

@@PancakemonsterFO4 Not that simple since anyone else can shoot you while the Spy is distracting you and having you wrangle the sentry, and the Spy can always sap your sentry when you're not looking so a Wrangler won't do any good in that particular situation.

@PancakemonsterFO4

4 жыл бұрын

@@TrickyRover well there is always someone to blame for it but me, also effective positioning and not hugging the wrangler and waiting to get backstabbed works too

4:19 *he really has lost it*

@Christian23242

4 жыл бұрын

that's what happens if you play 50 rounds of badwater

@RyomaHoshi22

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine being him in this video

@bizybliztaverage9414

3 жыл бұрын

Bad water is really really badly designed

@venomking2188

3 жыл бұрын

I saw this comment the moment it played on video.

@venomking2188

3 жыл бұрын

I saw this comment the moment it played on video.

Say it with me Everyone “The southern hospitality”

@geargrinder6511

4 жыл бұрын

I'm actually a devout S.H. engineer, it's handy for tracking spies and I usually play on servers with crits off anyway Usual loadout is Frontier Justice, Short Circut and Southern Hospitality.

@kurage_medusa

4 жыл бұрын

Ya boooiiii

@Tf_Kid

4 жыл бұрын

Eureka effect better lol

@PFSnypr

4 жыл бұрын

Im an ex SH engi because something happened and from now on im using my renamed stock wrench

@somedude9934

4 жыл бұрын

I renamed my baby, a killstreak souther hospitality with hod rod sheen, "dont mess with texas"

I was really expecting "The Wrench that Jag'd Me" with that Austin Powers bit.

Do next: Sniper rifle vs the hitman heatmaker

@loplop6614

4 жыл бұрын

gametriplepvp 06 Agreed.

@cybergrape2077

4 жыл бұрын

Hitman's Heatmaker? You mean, the direct downgrade?

@bruschetta7711

4 жыл бұрын

No, sniper rifle vs bazaar

@tev5040

4 жыл бұрын

@@bruschetta7711 Bazaar is a direct upgrade in my view. There's literally no downside after you get 2 kills. And remember, even if the slow charge prevents you from killing a heavy, 150 damage is still enough to cut his health in half. (unless being overhealed, in that case just charge behind a corner and then peak out)

@novi..

4 жыл бұрын

@@cybergrape2077 oh boo, you cant bodyshot, git gud

Bro, he even sounds texan, this man has transcended the engineer character to another level

@nilt2034

3 жыл бұрын

He is texan

@thatcooldudeisawesome876

3 жыл бұрын

He is texan

@athan13590

3 жыл бұрын

He is texan

@readuth1488

3 жыл бұрын

He is texan

@botondzoltannagy8849

3 жыл бұрын

He is #####

"I will be playing 50 full rounds of Badwater" I felt that grind in my soul.

My math major side really loved the damage over time integral bit

@leonardo9259

3 жыл бұрын

@Declan Wright 8th for me

I play what I call “support engiee” where the goal is help other engines. The set is rescue ranger, gunslinger, and wrangler. Each are very important. Ranger allows you to save a teammates turret from a safe place. I run gunslinger because I don’t focus on my own sentry and extra health is nice. The wrangler allows you to annoy anyone trying to poke at a fellow turret from a far. What do you guys think of this setup? I like helping newer engineers do well. (I don’t play engineer much because I’m a medic main.)

@aknife8336

4 жыл бұрын

Jake Williamson you cant trick people with your bullshit medics dont exist

@Majster4K

4 жыл бұрын

Medic main? Mer too. "I see you're a man of culture as well" This set is perfect i think.

@luccaburaglia9094

3 жыл бұрын

Meet the Support Subclass

@kindertak5396

3 жыл бұрын

Defensive-battle engineer

@Budew-ef6tr

3 жыл бұрын

Smiling bread pfp, medic main? You are wholesome.

The wrench is superior because look at how the engineer holds the jag.... his left hand is so close to being LITERALLY PIERCED BY THE JAG

@thecarl4085

4 жыл бұрын

His thumb is impaled every time he lifts up his hand

i have this motto i made. “going up with the jag, going down with stock”

Me: *Sees thumbnail* Also me: "Ah, a fellow 'Spy vs. Spy' fan I see"

"Nothing like the highlander defense meta, eh boys?" Edit: for me personally i use the jag on defense only during set up to get buildings up faster, then switch to stock or SH. On offense i tend to stick with the EE for easy teleporter placement

@justanalias5642

4 жыл бұрын

If you are playing offense on highlander I think that gunslinger is a better option so you can focus in the flank or staying with your combo. It also makes you more free to push the cart with your scout or heavy. Though this is my opinion.

@aganaom1712

4 жыл бұрын

@@justanalias5642 it would be if you planned on staying closer to the front lines to help push, but stock is still a better option overall since it does 3 fundamental things that the gunslinger doesn't. 1. Lvl3's and lvl2's are much more effective for freezing a counterpush 2. They force the enemy medic to be more careful about what uber they're using and when they should use it 3. Lvl2 and 3 sentries are much better at guarding your other buildings. If you dont have to worry about spies or roamers, gunslingers good. But in all other situations, stock is just more versatile overall. And EE is better than both of them on offense because of what it does. Namely cheaper teleporters and spawn teleports

@justanalias5642

4 жыл бұрын

@@aganaom1712 I guess that works, though I feel that the minies are as good for area denial as level 3s. I find that on offense I tend to move alot, and having to bring the sentry every times feels slow to me. Personally I like putting a mini around my combo to ensure no roamers. The way I play on offense is like a second scout but slower, using minies to lock down the flank while I typically push the cart. Also i think it is a better idea to put a tele with the EE then change wrenches since the EE has the a slower build time. For 5cp however I don't really know what is better. I find I do not get much kills on 5cp, and I'm more of a intimidator, like putting a level 3 sentry outside the door towards the other teams last point so they wont push. Question for you: if you are using the wrench on offense what primary and secondary would you use? Additionally do you think the wrangler is better than the pistol when running minies.

The Southern Hospitality is the best

@shitlordflytrap1078

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, man with Joker profile picture.

@solidshrek

4 жыл бұрын

I used it a lot just because it was so easy to kill spies with it

@TrickyRover

4 жыл бұрын

@@solidshrek Use primary to kill spies. Better to kill spies instantly with random crits than to let them bleed.

@solidshrek

4 жыл бұрын

@@TrickyRover i know but 4 example when they sap your buldings and they're still fucking around trying to kill you at least in my opinion the weapon does its job very well

@justanalias5642

4 жыл бұрын

@@TrickyRover in competitive there is no random crits

*laughs in eureka effect*

Wrench: Better for focusing on Sentry Jag: Better for focusing on Dispenser Eureka: Better for focusing on Teleporters Is that about right?

Engineer TF2s rating of Zesty’s wrench review: engineer tf2 approves of this message

@TimberFinz

4 жыл бұрын

Splitzblue I am the engineer tf2, Dane is a mere wanna be (jk Dane is great he’s a really good friend) but yeah, I was the one getting called engineer tf2 first ;)

This video is SO COOL. That line integral explanation made so much sense and was really well explained. Well done, man

Creating a Patreon is infinitely better than promoting Raid: Shadow Legends and saying some pathetic and fake trash about how "good" it is

@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413

4 жыл бұрын

Expect patreon wont do shit unless you are a very big youtuber

@thatguybrody4819

4 жыл бұрын

there were some unique and fun skits with the sponsor of RAID. forget his name though. was a while back.

@roncat4666

4 жыл бұрын

Brodu Sullivan internet historian? With raid shadowman

@bigdaddypapajohn1293

4 жыл бұрын

Or just let him get paid? Lmfao

@dumpsterfire4269

4 жыл бұрын

Mate, people have to pay bills. Sponsors are a great way to earn money make higher quality videos, if you don't like the sponsors then just skip them, you watch these great content creators for free and the least you can do is to quit your bitching and let the sponsors pay for the videos you love.

"WHY DO WE HAVE 4 ENGINEERS!?!?"

@sidneyadnopoz3427

2 жыл бұрын

"hey guys, I think we need more engineers"

I’m more amused on how zesty was just flat out bullied by two spies at 6:34

Jesus christ, this was well formatted. Great video!

I absolutely love that you brought out your Texan accent for the engineer-specific video. Great attention to detail.

As someone who wasted half of his life playing video game as a engineer I can make a very short conclusion. There is no such a thing as "better weapon" but there is a term "useless weapon". All weapons are situational and based on gamestyle and the only weapon you never want to use is pomson 6000, there is no such a situation in which you would pick pomson and Its the only "useless weapon" on engineer

@1Bloxer

3 жыл бұрын

fuck you, the pomson is awesome because you can be an annoying little shit against enemy medics what's that? you spent the last 5 minutes building up an uber so you can push? lmao fuck you pomson goes brr

@thebushbros6626

3 жыл бұрын

@@1Bloxer dude a medic can easily rebuild that messily 10% Uber loss

@1Bloxer

3 жыл бұрын

@@thebushbros6626 small numbers stack up my dude plus, 10% can still be a lot in the middle of a battle

@thebushbros6626

3 жыл бұрын

@@1Bloxer that’s still not much and considering you have to hit that medic, that means you have to go to the medic and try to hit him where he is being defended so yeah not worth sacrificing a shotgun.

@Banshee523

3 жыл бұрын

@@1Bloxer The meter drains on the pomson have falloff. You'll really only be cutting like 5% from their uber if you aren't in point blank range. They get 5% within like 2 seconds, literally. It's a pointless stat.

I think we all know the machete is the true god

This is way too amazingly edited, stop that. Also oh my god a Texan TF2 KZreadr, howdy from Dallas!

I have to admit, your explanation for you having a patreon are so good that I'll give you a like, a sub and maybe a few bucks a month because you're one of the only (last) good tf2 youtubers on this platform. I've enjoyed this game for quite some time but to suddenly find a relatively new tf2 youtuber is unbelievably amazing! Kepp up the good work!

Alternative title: young Tommy Lee Jones discusses effective tool options

I can't be the only one to feel nostalgia when the Austin Powers theme came on

The necro smasher: yo guys uhhh... yea.... *i won*

Just a really solid video loved it =)

I would say that the main reason people like Dane and B4nny advertise the Jag is because of two reasons: 1. The reason Dane prefers it and the reason I think your study found a preference with the default wrench is because the healing downside is negated by using the Rescue Ranger, Wrangler, or Short Circuit. They heal or prevent damage from the Sentry, thus relegating the job of the Jag to upgrading. Mind you, those three weapons are pretty overpowered and will probably get nerfed into the ground in the next ten years(next patch). 2. Gamemode can change the effectiveness of a weapon. Being able to build up a level 3 sentry ASAP is incredibly important in 5 CP(sixes). In Highlander, it's the ability to be able to move with your team and recover from losses. That's why the Jag is mostly better in competitive, although the stock wrench isn't much worse and should be swapped out once you level up your buildings(if you can). The downsides that exist due to the ban of all of Engineer's secondaries and the Rescue Ranger in sixes are less important than just getting a Sentry up and shooting. A third point is that you should have differentiated between attacking and defending so we could see which is superior there. Maybe the Jag was a lot better on offense but you got less points with it due to the nature of the class. Overall, still a good video there's just a lot of nuance with the wrenches when compared to the other weapons you've covered.

@dominusempyreus2383

4 жыл бұрын

"will probably get nerfed into the ground in the next ten years(next patch)." that assumes the tfteam will pay attention to the game

I personally really like using the stock since it can deal with an increasing pesky spy problem I tend to get when I play engineer probably due to my loadout hehe.

Loved the Austin Powers reference that caught me off guard.

omg the Spy vs Spy thumbnail is what i needed thx man...

0:50 best moment xD

It's close between them and hard to put into numbers, but I think the reason why the Jag is generally preferred is because being able to build and upgrade buildings faster comes into play more often than an increased repair rate. If your building is only taking chip damage, the difference in repair rate is irrelevant (both wrenches will still repair that building in one hit) and the only factor is the faster upgrade speed. If your buildings are taking far too much damage to tank, then the repair rate is irrelevant (as repairing the building won't help) and an increased construction and upgrade speed will help get those buildings back together. Only if your buildings are taking enough damage to be a threat but not enough to overwhelm the user will the repair rate be a factor - and even then, the upgrade speed is still a factor. Those are my thoughts, anyhow.

I like the voice and enthusiasm. Subscribed

Great video, glad I found this in my recommended

People: *start using stock more* Stock: *stonks ^*

Why does he sound like how the engineer would talk

4:27 my favorite qoute from this video simple, yet effective in getting the point across

Yeeehaw! Now that's the voice of a true Engineer! Well, what can I say. Experience talks by itself so the descriptions of the Jag a "stick to your attack team" style and the stock wrench as a "slow tank, higher quality nests" were pretty much how I felt each weapon already. But as a well documented video research using actual scientific methods your video did bring a smile to my face.

Give me a link to that menu background of yours

@henrybottomsworth

4 жыл бұрын

yes me too

The Jag: Has a spike on the end of it Also The Jag: *-25% damage penalty*

I had always felt that the Jag was a bit overstated in terms of it being a direct upgrade over stock, so it's nice to see a well implemented test showing that it is what it was always intended to be: a sidegrade. Great video!

50 rounds in a row on casual pl_badwater ? Gonna need a dispenser to heal from that one. As for the video itself, I like this take on the Stock vs the Jag subject and would love to see more videos like this for different weapons and classes eventually.

I have almost 10,000 hours in tf2 and I always use the jag. It helps me get out of slick situations as an engie and it also helps kills friendlies faster with the extra crit chance

Zesty: says stock gets more sentry kills Me using the jag on a 32 killstreak coming from 3 enemy scouts which keep running into it: oh i dont think so Seriously this actually happened to me

Dude holy shit you put so much effort into all of these. I love it all!!! I really hope you blow up ❤❤

God I just.. love anything you make. Your voice is so nice thank you.

fucking thumbnail looks like Spy vs Spy

Uncle zesty is a rely gud sentry man

Great vid! Stock (like most stock weapons) is the best all round. Glad to see it confirmed with Stats. (: I actually use the Jag far more, mainly in competitive because the Rescue Ranger makes up for the lack of burst healing and attentive teammates help make up for not having the DPS of the shotgun. The fast set up is super useful for retreating to new points, and if the enemy team starts focusing your gun, a small amount of extra healing probs wouldn't save it anyway. From what you've shown I should probably start using stock in pubs though, great vid!

Video is all over the place! Holy crap

just copying Uncle Dane SMH

Wrench VS Jag discussions boil down to a cycle. There really isn’t a concrete winner because, every point you have for one, there’s a counter for it, and there’s a counter for that, and so on.

That Austin Powers intro... I was not expecting to see that today, but I’m not complaining

I'm so glad you've gotten a different hud by now lol, that asuka image is really hard to look at lol

The thumbnail is such a cool reference I can’t not watch this video now

Whenever I want to use the stock wrench, I just use the Southern Hospitality. The bleed effect means if I hit a spy or a flanking class, they’ll probably die, and since I hardly come up against a Pyro, I find the measly vulnerability to be negligible.

Holy accent Batman. In all honesty I thought I was watching a video from somebody's channel that I've never watched before. I was NOT prepared for that.

I just like the faster deploy and redeployment, it just makes me feel like less glued down.

This vid was insane holy shit 🙏🏼

4:27 Welcome to Casual Matchmaking, Zesty.

Great video, Asuka made it even better

Love the Austin power cut in

I’ve never seen the cross eyed clip be used so effectively outside of austin powers.... good job sir!

I sure do love watching stat videos for a game I can't even play

That starting beat is a bop

Loving that Spy Vs. Spy Thumbnail

I liked how you did this video in a Texan voice.

Great video!

Man you have amazing editing skills.

That graph at ladder half of the video was actually really well animated and smooth. The rest of the vid was great too, but I gush over good animation

Ty for the information, Jesus.

LOL that intro was amazing

ah austin powers, i see you're a man of culture as well as science

I loved the intro Especially that austin posers part

DELIGHTFUL

Y'know, after i found out that you're from texas i started hearing your accent. Kinda bizarre but i love it Keep up the good work Zesty, i wish you a good year

just seeing that austin powers reference made my day

What a great video

you get a sub just for that Austin Powers ref... AND the Hannibal ref!!

you had me at the Austin powers intro

love that spy vs spy reference in the thumbnail

1:42 I was expecting multiple chain explosions Michael Bay style. Just like Dr. Lalve.

The Jag seems to be if the Gunslinger could build higher level sentries.

"As soon as he stops shaking my hand... I'm gonna make a run for it..."

1:52 Oh god, he’s gone Southern

You are underestimating the power of eureka effect wrench