TF2: Delivering YOUR Hottest of Takes

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shounic's video on TF2's design: • how the tf2 classes an...
intro song
Driver (Just Greg Remix)-Pendulum
00:00 intro
01:42 competitive
03:28 kunai op?
06:25 artificial rarity
07:58 youtuber influence
11:05 state of TF2
14:29 10,000 hours
16:19 sniper lol
21:45 cow mangler op?
24:46 against the grain
26:16 all class cosmetics
27:09 direct hit op?
29:45 scout vs sentry
30:30 Halloween restrictions
31:30 valve's neglect
32:27 pomson sucks
34:21 team scramble
36:30 arena good?
37:28 neglect is good?
42:43 lightning round
49:45 outro

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  • @Judgement_Kazzy
    @Judgement_Kazzy3 ай бұрын

    "Nerf" is truly the most offensive N word to a TF2 player.

  • @skeletonmemelord7779

    @skeletonmemelord7779

    2 ай бұрын

    at least to the stupider ones anyway.

  • @modestlatios5553

    @modestlatios5553

    Ай бұрын

    Did you see what they did to the Bison?

  • @ThoronSage

    @ThoronSage

    25 күн бұрын

    Meanwhile one the words that TF2 players love the most is Ni-

  • @fumothfan9

    @fumothfan9

    16 күн бұрын

    Based

  • @scruggly_ahh_commenter

    @scruggly_ahh_commenter

    7 күн бұрын

    im offended, *steam* is coming out of my ear, im like a pipe that the *valve* got blown off, im canceling you and your entire family

  • @rosant7074
    @rosant70746 ай бұрын

    Cold take: We need a strange dragon's fury

  • @vrex

    @vrex

    6 ай бұрын

    Straight outta the freezer, that one

  • @kingkoopa64

    @kingkoopa64

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@vrexnah man, straight from nepture

  • @donanilao7724

    @donanilao7724

    6 ай бұрын

    0K ...Get it? It's 0 Kelvin.

  • @moondrop11

    @moondrop11

    6 ай бұрын

    @@kingkoopa64 straight outta uranus

  • @ThatFoxxoLeo

    @ThatFoxxoLeo

    6 ай бұрын

    At the very least, being able to apply more warpaints to the Dragon's Fury would be nice. The big tube it's got is BEGGING for a war paint to be slapped onto it.

  • @onemorescout
    @onemorescout6 ай бұрын

    Meanwhile in Overwatch: “In order to break the latest competitive meta, our sequel will remove an entire player from both teams. Tell your sixth friend to sit on a cactus.”

  • @mr.tatortot6469

    @mr.tatortot6469

    6 ай бұрын

    Wouldn't it be the fifth friend ?

  • @shinyknight1400

    @shinyknight1400

    6 ай бұрын

    @@mr.tatortot6469 He's referring to how Overwatch 1 originally had 6 players on each team and then in Overwatch 2 it was turned into a 5v5

  • @trashmann480

    @trashmann480

    6 ай бұрын

    @@shinyknight1400 1-Me 2-First Friend 3-Second Friend 4-Third Friend 5-Fourth Friend 6-Fifth Friend

  • @shinyknight1400

    @shinyknight1400

    6 ай бұрын

    @@trashmann480 Aaah that makes sense my bad

  • @energeticyellow1637

    @energeticyellow1637

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@trashmann480Wrong, I am my first friend (and best friend)

  • @Clipper2018
    @Clipper20186 ай бұрын

    "Church of Uncle Sound Purple Dane" I nearly Spit out my Drink!

  • @seronymus

    @seronymus

    6 ай бұрын

    I haven't LOLd in a long time but that got me. So true

  • @SaltyBites
    @SaltyBites6 ай бұрын

    UncleSoundPurpleDane sounds like he would be on a registry.

  • @myboyfriend95

    @myboyfriend95

    6 ай бұрын

    He makes bad tf2 content

  • @Encucumbered

    @Encucumbered

    5 ай бұрын

    huh?

  • @tonyshum5569

    @tonyshum5569

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@myboyfriend95only one to make something worse is Unclesoundpurplelight

  • @Delfite

    @Delfite

    3 ай бұрын

    That shit has the same energy as "SpeedOfSoundSonic"

  • @tracefreeman52
    @tracefreeman526 ай бұрын

    The clip of that spy as the medic is way too funny 28:05. Even I felt betrayed.

  • @donanilao7724

    @donanilao7724

    6 ай бұрын

    Finally. A scenario where the medic disguise worked.

  • @pep4338

    @pep4338

    26 күн бұрын

    ​@@donanilao7724 Try disguising as medic and running toward the enemies with your back to them , works surprisingly often

  • @solgerWhyIsThereAnAtItLooksBad
    @solgerWhyIsThereAnAtItLooksBad6 ай бұрын

    The mechanics just being fun was proved this week when people were all stuck with stock

  • @redfox8496
    @redfox84966 ай бұрын

    As a sniper player, I truly think just adding a fairly decently long reload, perhaps with a new reload animation over the garbage we have now would be incredibly balancing for the class, as well as less max ammo. I find that in most of my matches I forget I even have ammo in the first place as I can almost always shoot forever and by the time I take some sort of damage and go heal I get my ammo back too. 25 is just far too high, 12 or 10 would work better but it could be argued for slightly more.

  • @redfox8496

    @redfox8496

    6 ай бұрын

    And in turn, I think the darwins danger shield should have the -50% fire damage stat removed and make it only disable afterburn. Ive never quite used the razorback, but perhaps it could be changed into either less damage from shots hitting snipers back, instead of a backstab canceller, or maybe less melee damage taken on user. But who knows, I certainly dont.

  • @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413

    @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@redfox8496revert it to only +25 max health

  • @ShakerSilver

    @ShakerSilver

    6 ай бұрын

    check out bad weapon rehabilitation servers for that concept in action

  • @phantomstriker7996

    @phantomstriker7996

    6 ай бұрын

    Who the hell only wants 12 bullets, make it 15 or 10 it's a cooler number

  • @redfox8496

    @redfox8496

    6 ай бұрын

    its really not much of a difference between 12 and 10, I think 15 is a bit too much. 12 just seems like a reasonable amount between the 2@@phantomstriker7996

  • @jeg_
    @jeg_6 ай бұрын

    Twitter's going to be fun for a couple of days

  • @shrgn

    @shrgn

    6 ай бұрын

    Im gonna reinstall reddit just to see r/tf2 turn into a burning dumpsterfire for the next days

  • @kingkoopa64

    @kingkoopa64

    6 ай бұрын

    Take a shot every time someone brings up the trans door drama, i dare you

  • @dankmemes8254

    @dankmemes8254

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@kingkoopa64 the what now

  • @kingkoopa64

    @kingkoopa64

    6 ай бұрын

    @dankmemes8254 Yeah, so the turbine event creator put a trans door in the map, and everyone went crazy

  • @Mehdi69420

    @Mehdi69420

    6 ай бұрын

    Ohh i can't wait

  • @pajamapantsjack5874
    @pajamapantsjack58746 ай бұрын

    If a youtuber has influence over you, like they say jump you say how high, you shouldn’t be on the internet. When I watch zesty and hear a take from him, I’ll either agree or disagree with it all depends on his argument. I should not be saying this kindergarten levels of lessons in a KZread comment

  • @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413

    @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413

    6 ай бұрын

    zesty fans blindly follow him to be contrarians and feel included in the kool kids klub, this is just bigb but sanitized for the masses

  • @pajamapantsjack5874

    @pajamapantsjack5874

    6 ай бұрын

    @@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 I don’t I think most of his followers don’t and I sense a bias dislike towards him but I hope you’ll prove me wrong rather than throw around insults

  • @DoltonI

    @DoltonI

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 you can say that about the confirmists, who like being part of the big group with the most socially acceptable opinion that will give you pats on the back for just saying the same thing everyone else does point still stands: think for yourself

  • @xboxstudent

    @xboxstudent

    6 ай бұрын

    Sound like projection@@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413

  • @leonardo9259

    @leonardo9259

    6 ай бұрын

    nah i love the dude but his video on the short circuit is ass lmao@@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413

  • @corporatecanine6030
    @corporatecanine60305 ай бұрын

    When people discuss Sniper balance they always forget the one thing that he has had since the beginning and they NEVER consider tweaking it. The Charge mechanic on sniper rifles is already a perfect method to nerfing his quickscope potential - just make it so shots under 30% or so charge don't do crits. No more quickscopes, people actually have to setup and plan ahead before sniping instead of running in guns ablaze. Whats more, is you could add that little laser everyone talks about. The dot sucks. too easy to miss. Make it a laser that increases in opacity the more its charged. You can setup a shot while being relatively hidden but as you keep a closer eye on targets their awareness of you increases. Whats EVEN MORE is add a "Sniper!" callout. How come the Spy gets a callout but the Sniper doesn't? Both are the assassin classes, and while there is plenty of counter play to Spy because fuck him in particular(?) there is no meaningful way to address a Sniper in his nest unless your teammates have more than two brain cells.

  • @thefire5219

    @thefire5219

    18 күн бұрын

    yeah that and the fact that sniper just does not make sense as a class. When all classes are short to mid ranged brawlers why do we need a long range instakill class? I am not saying that sniper should be removed but when looking at the other classes if their was one class that could be removed without messing up balance (to much) it would be sniper.

  • @juanrollel3693

    @juanrollel3693

    Күн бұрын

    @@thefire5219 it makes sense that he is in the game , you need a class that is long range there is no other , the charge shot said be op is good actually i think at 50%-30% should be a 150 dmg mw it like 75 to quick scope it does stop alot of sniper v sniper also u could reduce the headshot hittbox but it also a nerf to spy kus amby

  • @LucidMakesVideos
    @LucidMakesVideos6 ай бұрын

    Hey glad I could make you have a meltdown mid-video Zesty! Now make sure to get back in your box and talk about why you think the Bazaar Bargain is the worst thing since rotten eggs ;)

  • @spewks8569

    @spewks8569

    6 ай бұрын

    Yoo love ur vid on tf2s artstyle man!

  • @LucidMakesVideos

    @LucidMakesVideos

    6 ай бұрын

    @@spewks8569 thank you! I appreciate it :D

  • @dogeboithedoomslayer

    @dogeboithedoomslayer

    6 ай бұрын

    This would be an actual good, toxic comment if you didn’t put the ;) at the end of it.

  • @dogeboithedoomslayer

    @dogeboithedoomslayer

    6 ай бұрын

    Also, your dog’s teeth will not survive my wrath, goobermunch 🫵😹

  • @kenlemonspankerfromutah9640

    @kenlemonspankerfromutah9640

    6 ай бұрын

    how in anyway is what you said a hot take

  • @detroviolet326
    @detroviolet3265 ай бұрын

    Here's my hot take: The community isn't enough to keep the game alive. Some of us probably don't deserve Valve's attention, but we really need it.

  • @detroviolet326

    @detroviolet326

    5 ай бұрын

    And if really nobody at Valve wants to work on this game I don't see a reason why they can't hire the community to keep working on updates.

  • @Tyler-nr6kl

    @Tyler-nr6kl

    Ай бұрын

    Totally agree, and i dont get why the tf community has decided to say its our job to save it. Sure, we love the game, but this is a product. Valve is paid to keep it live, and its up to them ultimately to keep it live. Im so sick of the toxic positivity, as that will never get anything done to it. If you ask me, as a helldiver and tf2 player, the tf community ought to take a page out of our book. When movements like 'save tf2' happen, it just reinforces to valve that the games players will support this carcass no matter how long they leave it to rot

  • @minty9749
    @minty97496 ай бұрын

    I don't think Dane is necessarily *wrong* in saying "Valve is 100% to blame for any 'bad' cosmetics/maps being added to TF2. They hold all the power. The workshop is a wide spectrum of talent, artistic integrity, and gameplay awareness. It's Valve's responsibility to sort through it and choose the appropriate content." In all honesty, I think he's completely right! But I think saying that "It's Valve's fault" and ending right there is kind of missing the point of the overall discussion surrounding community cosmetics. I feel like where we should have the goalpost is getting overall higher-quality stuff overall, rather than just begging Valve to do stuff for us. This can be achieved in a myriad of ways, but the first and most obvious way to get this done is of course having overall community review and going off the stats of how people rate items. ...which, if I'm not mistaken, are only viewable by the creator for cosmetics and war paints. For maps it's a bit of a different issue (level design is a lot harder than creating cosmetics, trust me). I don't believe I'd be mistaken in saying though that people would rather have things that the majority likes, rather than something that 5% of players will like.

  • @lpsp442

    @lpsp442

    6 ай бұрын

    What's so crucial about cosmetics is that they represent an imposition from one player unto *all others* on the server as themselves. With maps, you can just choose not to play on that map, but if someone turns up in game with horrific cosmetics that ruin the experience then what can one do? A tool that lets you target specific players to turn their cosmetics off, or a selecter that lets you pick cosmetic items and say "make those invisible for me" would help, but ultimately a solid layer of public review would go a mile towards eliminating problem items that 5% of players like, 10% tolerate, 20% dislike and 65% outright detest.

  • @CookTF2
    @CookTF26 ай бұрын

    45:34 Hot take: it wasn't Valve's intention to fight the bots by restricting chat and voice commands, but to ensure each of them payed.

  • @SaintRedFox

    @SaintRedFox

    5 ай бұрын

    considering they havent lifted it yet shows they only wanted the money and it was just a excuse

  • @skarloeythomas5172

    @skarloeythomas5172

    29 күн бұрын

    You think Valve made the bot owners pay? They just prevented them from using free accounts, forcing them to use stolen accounts which is just as simple for the bot owners.

  • @CookTF2

    @CookTF2

    28 күн бұрын

    @@skarloeythomas5172 I think Zesty said in part 2 of nobody's home, that they steal giftcards to make premium accounts. Who are they technically stealing from at the end of the day?- I don't work retail but changes are they are stealing from the shop holding the physical cards so it's on the shop and/or insurance companies to cover the theft- not Valve. If there's a business around stolen credit cards being laundered to gift cards, Valve also profits from it. There's so many morally gray opportunities for Valve to turn this into profit, even accidentally.

  • @JustCallMeQuincy
    @JustCallMeQuincy6 ай бұрын

    "To be honest, not enough people are like, stealing." -ulcer danial

  • @theresmorepancakes
    @theresmorepancakes6 ай бұрын

    I have a feeling that Twitter will not be happy with this. I don't use Twitter, so I don't care.

  • @kingkoopa64

    @kingkoopa64

    6 ай бұрын

    Imagine Twitter when they realized people like sr pelo agree with Zesty jesus. They will go nuts

  • @tomas6621

    @tomas6621

    6 ай бұрын

    Glad i don't use it too.

  • @darrellaldrige3909

    @darrellaldrige3909

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@kingkoopa64they will explode into tiny bits and pieces

  • @Hotomato

    @Hotomato

    6 ай бұрын

    I’m not convinced yall don’t care about Twitter the way you say that you do.

  • @maskofthedragon
    @maskofthedragon6 ай бұрын

    9:32 Sentient is giving the average TF2 player a bit too much credit

  • @hopecat7466
    @hopecat74666 ай бұрын

    I'm already 10,000 Picoseconds in and I can already confirm this is a ZestyJesus classic.

  • @jonashormann5700
    @jonashormann57006 ай бұрын

    30:21 that heavy looked so sad! He really hated his life as we see what happens after

  • @mr.minion9247
    @mr.minion92476 ай бұрын

    As a member of the 'Official' Mercenary park enjoyers steam group, zesty we are pleased to hear about your open declaration of appreciation to Mercenary Park. We would love to see you within the group so that you can further more express your love for Mercenary Park.

  • @AaSs-kk3tk

    @AaSs-kk3tk

    6 ай бұрын

    "Dear Mr. Zesty Jesus The Ministry of Internal Mercenary Park Affairs (MIMPA) has seen your public expression of great and utter love to beloved Mercenary Park. You have been awarded +15 Social Credits for your efforts for the cause. Praise be Mercenary Park."

  • @LARAUJO_0
    @LARAUJO_05 ай бұрын

    8:21 I actually wholeheartedly agree with this. It's significantly easier for people to subconsciously be swayed by someone merely expressing an opinion than you might think. In my opinion, forming your own opinion rather than absorbing one you're exposed to is a skill that has to be learned and practiced over time, whereas if it was something we were all inherently capable of, it'd be a lot harder to spread misinformation, conspiracy theories, extreme political or religious views, prejudice, dumb internet trends, and other things that thrive on a lack of critical thinking than it currently is. It also certainly doesn't help if you're like me and don't play the game enough to have a grasp on various aspects of the game and have to rely on secondary sources (namely content creators) to fill in those knowledge gaps 43:57 "Maining a class" doesn't mean "exclusively playing one class unless forced to play another". Most people will be more drawn to a select few classes because they facilitate playstyles they like, but that doesn't mean everything else is off the table; this applies to just about any game with multiple characters or playstyles. Obviously playing a wider variety is good because you experience more of the game's content and it gives you valuable experience, but maining is still a natural thing to do and serves a good purpose

  • @rare_player
    @rare_player6 ай бұрын

    I wish Valve did a reprint for the overpriced strange weapons. The huntsman, kritzkrieg and gunslinger cost $80, $170 and $340 respectively. That's a lot for a kill counter. To preserve the rarity they could make the existing ones vintage, release the new ones as australium or make them paintable to apply a stat clock.

  • @harrybaxter9110

    @harrybaxter9110

    6 ай бұрын

    Don't forget the original please

  • @flyerboy991

    @flyerboy991

    6 ай бұрын

    If anything, strangifiers already exist. Just add those for the huntsman etc, make them clearly distinctly "strangified" huntsmen as opposed to strange huntsmen, and you're good.

  • @MoustachioFurioso83

    @MoustachioFurioso83

    6 ай бұрын

    As the owner of several of those pricy stranges, I agree. Let the people who want to count kills do so for a sum that isn't absurd. Just turn the existing ones vintage or something, I don't know, so the pro traders don't cry too much.

  • @Halevolt
    @Halevolt4 ай бұрын

    If competitive players were complaining about certain weapons in competitive then Valve should've made competitive play with just stock weapons.

  • @rockowlgamer631
    @rockowlgamer6316 ай бұрын

    7:00 Counter argument Deep Rock Galactic, even when the season ends, all items are put into rng drops when exploring the caves, that way EVERYONE still has a chance to get the items. It's worked pretty well so far, although it's a game about working together and most of those items are cosmetics and not new weapons so there is a difference. If I had to give my own hot take, the Sydney sleeper is the most balance sniper rifle. Plus I like the new G.R.U though the eviction notice could've stayed the same before the Jungle Inferno update.

  • @met5199

    @met5199

    6 ай бұрын

    To be fair to DRG, it's monetized in a Pay2Play-Manner with a "No content gets wasted" policy that also doesn't allow any type of micromarket to grow out of it. This creates are more healthy way of getting cosmetics by actually earning them (random selection be damned for a moment) and people can buy more cosmetics if they wish to via DLCs. That being said, the unfortunate side-effect is that trying to get a specific cosmetic becomes harder and harder with each season released, since they're linked to random spawns that max out around 22% for a Max-Complexity cave, which may take around an hour to finish if played...normally, I guess? Similar issues with Overclock-Cosmetics, but at least for that there are ways to work around this and expect a consistent stream of new OCs. Still a way better system than just making certain cosmetics just outright unreasonable to gain or unobtainable, tho. Nothing interesting to say regarding the TF2 Takes on my end lol

  • @Hotomato

    @Hotomato

    6 ай бұрын

    And that practice of adding previous seasons’ items to the random loot table has resulted in a massively bloated item list that takes forever to get through as a new player. Not saying previous seasons’ content shouldn’t be preserved, but idk if deep rock is a shining example of how to do it right.

  • @met5199

    @met5199

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Hotomato I wanna be fair tho and say that this solution is still better than the general norm when it comes to this type of content. Like, at least there *is* an option to grind cosmetics over a period of time. There will be a point where increasing the methods of earning additional cosmetics needs to be increased, as well as additional ways of being able to choose what cosmetics you want or not (similar to Machine-Events and Overclocks since a similar but more important issue existed there as well, given OCs affect gameplay). Ultimately tho, one could argue that some of the cosmetics could be moved towards the normal ingame-shop if that isn't done already. A part of me still likes the idea of being able to find cosmetics on random runs; something fun to look forward to if you don't search for some specific cosmetic.

  • @rockowlgamer631

    @rockowlgamer631

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Hotomato Well it's not like you're grinding them right? Just getting them through the loot drops will take a while so I think it's fine.

  • @EmberTheFlareon3579

    @EmberTheFlareon3579

    2 ай бұрын

    I haven't played the game in a while, so please clarify for me if there is a chance to get a cosmetic you already have or not and if you get extra game currency for it. If so, they should change it so there's a guarantee that if you did get a cosmetic, it won't be one you already have. Just imo.

  • @CoolSs
    @CoolSs6 ай бұрын

    41:57 Not even tf2 community know what tf2 need (we got too many tourist and old players who are the embodiment of apathy)

  • @crack4184

    @crack4184

    6 ай бұрын

    And many TF2 players think that their game is perfect and will take the slightest criticism personal Or compare to other games

  • @CoolSs

    @CoolSs

    6 ай бұрын

    @@crack4184 I used to be proud of enjoying tf2 and being a fan(before MYM) now i can't even praise the lost soul and art style that set tf2 apart from other games. Call it homestock syndrome but i love tf2 enough to stay with it until the end. You are right btw and the sad part. PEOPLE CAN'T POINT AND EXPLAIN WHAT THEY LIKED ABOUT TF2. if tf2 was not released, most of them would be playing fortnite or your flavor of the month game... "Apathy is death. Worse than death, because at least a rotting corpse feeds the beasts and insects." -Kreia. But here is a white pill, we are old now, we found that others actually hold opinion i had for years. We no longer the silence "majority".

  • @crack4184

    @crack4184

    6 ай бұрын

    @@CoolSs Nothing to be ashamed about liking TF2, though. I hate the part of the community that argues all the time and says tf2 is the best. When you prove them they're wrong, they always say "Maybe but it's still the best multiplayer games of all times, even today! Look! I AM having a great time, which means you must have a great time too."

  • @pikazilla6405
    @pikazilla64056 ай бұрын

    What really confuses me about this admittedly extremely stupid competitive debate is that I don't think I've ever seen either side stop and ask themselves WHY competitive is so different from standard tf2 in the first place, things like no random crits and to an extent no random bullet spread are understandable, but things such as cutting the number of players in half and having only 5 cp maps seem completely and utterly unnecessary, I think the biggest mistake when it came to the completely failed competitive transition of tf2 was trying to balance weapons for both when the real answer all along was to make competitive more like casual

  • @xenosflame3458
    @xenosflame34586 ай бұрын

    The church of unclesoundpurpledane has done more damage to this game then most normies realize, these 3 have to realize how much toxicity there fanbases spew out on a daily basis right? Oh and god forbid you say anything slightly negative about them.

  • @MaxPower-qt3vw

    @MaxPower-qt3vw

    6 ай бұрын

    Tf2 is a timeless masterpiece guyz!!!!!

  • @Lachrymogenic
    @Lachrymogenic6 ай бұрын

    I generally find that most TF2bers act extraordinarily differently to actual players in game. They're very whitewashed, very "silly" and whimsical, all use Twitter, try to make out that this game has a very comforting and accepting community. They act very positive, but deep down, they're just as toxic as they claim not to be, people like Shork, Soundsmith, etc. They're allowed to just get away with it, as long as they take the moral high ground. Something about that just urks me the wrong way, they act like they're mightier than all, because they have a "platform" They're better than us normal casual players, who I guess are all just racist, evil people for exercising non-consequential harmless free speech. Zesty is the only TF2ber who's just a normal, honest guy, with opinions. He gets hate for it, but he deals with it very well. He's strong and doesn't give in. Normal KZreadrs would BOW DOWN and BEG to their KNEES for forgiveness over their own genuine opinions, but Zesty stands up for himself. I'm thankful for a TF2ber like Zesty, compared to people who wear a faulty fake mask, covered in tape.

  • @Rabi2in

    @Rabi2in

    6 ай бұрын

    bro you sound like you're in a cult

  • @Clown_the_Clown

    @Clown_the_Clown

    6 ай бұрын

    Accurate, thanks for sharing man. TF2 is one of the last bastions of old internet culture, I don't want it to get destroyed.

  • @kenlemonspankerfromutah9640

    @kenlemonspankerfromutah9640

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Rabi2infr the glazing is crazy

  • @maxerduster

    @maxerduster

    6 ай бұрын

    ​​@@Rabi2in but he has a point

  • @ThouShaltSneed

    @ThouShaltSneed

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Rabi2in Idk, he sounds like a normal free thinking individual Have you ever considered YOU are the one that is in a cult?

  • @nanoblob4998
    @nanoblob49986 ай бұрын

    I know how to balance the Kunai: So basically, you add a bar and if you get a backstab, it depletes the bar but however large the bar was, the more health you get. The bar can be passively recharged or using the revolver will help recharge.

  • @joemancool

    @joemancool

    6 ай бұрын

    Kunai balance- Every backstab drains the health gain bar but once that runs out you start using your cloak meter instead, if you run out of cloak you no longer get any health on kill. Also for that revolver thing probably should have it be the le'trange or the enforcer because having it damage based means a diamond back or ambassador spy would basically still be what he is now.

  • @Calmite

    @Calmite

    6 ай бұрын

    How about just let the glass cannon class be a little less glassy

  • @Silvercruise

    @Silvercruise

    6 ай бұрын

    Why not just lower the amount of health you can get?

  • @xailonut8763

    @xailonut8763

    6 ай бұрын

    I am going to respectfully decline

  • @chillyconmor

    @chillyconmor

    6 ай бұрын

    i dont like that. it removes the gameplay target prioritization aspect of the kunai and it heavily nerfs the kunai's chain capabilities

  • @xcrackervolleyx
    @xcrackervolleyx6 ай бұрын

    What if the Kunai’s overheal grew over the course of a second after a stab instead of immediately?

  • @user-kb7sl1xv5r

    @user-kb7sl1xv5r

    6 ай бұрын

    kunai is perfect he just have a skill issue

  • @barneycalhoundotcom

    @barneycalhoundotcom

    6 ай бұрын

    I think that the overheal should be granted over time. like, if you get a good backstab, you should still get that same 210 health. But, if you were to take damage (say, a stray minigun bullet) your overheal would stop at wherever it was at. It would make kunai spy chain stabbings more managable, as it would prevent you from having to send a sniper quick scope, a frontier justice crit, 4 rockets, and 4 pipes to kill one spy.

  • @damianateiro

    @damianateiro

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@user-kb7sl1xv5rOr is it that you don't know how to play spy without an op-gun to help?

  • @portal7910

    @portal7910

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@damianateiro I think it's a bait comment

  • @guscox9651
    @guscox96516 ай бұрын

    "the church of uncle-sound-purple-dave" did crack me up i must admit 25:40

  • @caramelldansen2204
    @caramelldansen22046 ай бұрын

    Regarding "give TF2 to a new developer": *_LOOK WHAT THEY DID TO HALO_* 😢

  • @darthgamer9861

    @darthgamer9861

    5 ай бұрын

    exactly. in the heat of the moment, the idea of giving the keys to a new dev sounds good until you look at the many games that were destroyed once they were given to new devs that simply didnt understand the intricacies of the game or in 343s case, thought they could “do better” and burned a ticket for limitless money.

  • @caramelldansen2204

    @caramelldansen2204

    5 ай бұрын

    @@darthgamer9861 Honestly, aside from indie devs, I can think of no studios, developers or other corporate entities that put art before profit like Bungie did. They were (RIP old Bungie...) one of the last standouts from before gaming became profitable, and I shudder to think we will never see the kind of art they produced ever again on a scale greater than what a dozen or fewer people can complete. Profit kills art. Profit kills the planet. Profit kills us. We need to get rid of it before it gets rid of us.

  • @spydyeguymy
    @spydyeguymy6 ай бұрын

    One Spy change I thought of that would somewhat nerf the Kunai is to add a stat to the Dead Ringer that causes you to lose all your over-heal upon activation.

  • @unr34L-

    @unr34L-

    6 ай бұрын

    LMFAO dead ringer is already garbage

  • @FormerBunsenBurner
    @FormerBunsenBurnerАй бұрын

    I love how the Southern accent slips out for no discernable reason at 38:26

  • @s4ndr3x98
    @s4ndr3x986 ай бұрын

    Im not afraid to say that zesty is right about sniper

  • @neondead2.0.15
    @neondead2.0.156 ай бұрын

    Well womans with abs are hot, so it IS hot take.

  • @Monkey_XDD
    @Monkey_XDD6 ай бұрын

    Just nerf sniper lol

  • @The_House_Always_Wins

    @The_House_Always_Wins

    6 ай бұрын

    I would like to see all snipers have a visible laser beam when scoped in

  • @-the_lumberjack-
    @-the_lumberjack-Ай бұрын

    Hot take: Creators should start using KZread's community tab for video idea posts because there's a large segment of us that just don't use the emotional cesspool that is twitter.

  • @yaneproduction
    @yaneproduction6 ай бұрын

    Sometimes I forget about what Zesty was talking because of the clips. In one clip he butterknife'd soldier and pyro with one hit each, soldier blew him self up whilet running and shooting at dancing soldier and demo. Btw my take is that Big Joey should bring Slap Nuts back in his nickname

  • @PARTY_MUTT
    @PARTY_MUTT6 ай бұрын

    I may not always agree but I always love your vids man! Keep up THE EPIC UPLOADS

  • @seronymus
    @seronymus6 ай бұрын

    The Azumanga Daioh edits were hilarious and I loved especially the takes on sniper and random crits tbh. Cant wait part 2!

  • @GustavoSuperSonic2001
    @GustavoSuperSonic20016 ай бұрын

    Hey Zesty, great video as always. I remember you talk on one of your streams about background footage, and man, that's some of the best Team Fortress 2 gameplay I've seen. It really goes a long way to serve the video

  • @remonjules
    @remonjules6 ай бұрын

    Great video as always, dude. Your editing has gotten a lot better.

  • @weeaboo869
    @weeaboo8692 ай бұрын

    love how the video description was instantly immediately proven wrong by Nobody's Home

  • @Capiosus
    @Capiosus6 ай бұрын

    also maps can be made heavy dominated if they are too close quartered, but this usually never happens because people build maps that enable rocket jumpers Single control point maps are good maps because they allow areas to change team control to prevent any class from dominating, exceptions of huntsman sniper hitbox BS (scout) and darwins danger shield BS (pyro).

  • @simplysmiley4670

    @simplysmiley4670

    6 ай бұрын

    Ehhhh single point maps are often scout, soldier and demo heaven.

  • @Capiosus

    @Capiosus

    6 ай бұрын

    @@simplysmiley4670 for vanilla tf2 (not uncletopia) all classes work for single point maps, no single class is trash, and no single class is dominant. Sure, some may be better than others at times, but you can play anything you want to.

  • @Meladoom
    @Meladoom6 ай бұрын

    I was discussing Counter-Strike, TF2, Overwatch and Valorant with a friend of mine, while having this video on the background, and somehow we often bringed TF2 when discussing all of these games. It is really awesome how often the gameplay changes here! From Soldier to Spy to Heavy and so on! brb gonna rewatch it thoroughly this time!

  • @slaster1086
    @slaster10866 ай бұрын

    25:42 "The Church of Uncle Sound Purple Dane" 💀

  • @wutaf0ck
    @wutaf0ck6 ай бұрын

    I'm glad that all the shit you got for just expressing your thoughts didn't change your values for the sake of complying with the masses. Respect. Have a great year Zesty

  • @EBarracuda
    @EBarracuda6 ай бұрын

    I think this video could be a spring board for some more discussions in their own videos. Such as the "Random crits should be completely random" comment could be a video on how that could be implemented in a server etc.

  • @TsuyAr
    @TsuyAr6 ай бұрын

    You forgot to mention that the Direct Hit is almost always worse for advanced rocket jumping because of its projectile speed. Not that you can't get good with it, but it messes with your muscle memory so bad compared to the other launchers, even the Liberty Launcher.

  • @captainweekend5276

    @captainweekend5276

    6 ай бұрын

    That's similar to the issues with the Loch n load, theoretically the faster projectile speed is a buff that allows longer range hits, however in practice it acts either as a side grade or nerf due to how much it messes with your muscle memory.

  • @fnutek3720

    @fnutek3720

    6 ай бұрын

    @@captainweekend5276 Nah if people use loch n load often, they will usually end up even better.

  • @mirokocur705
    @mirokocur7052 ай бұрын

    #GlockForDemoman

  • @flusen9408
    @flusen94085 ай бұрын

    For rare items to be re-added, I suggest making them drop from the item drop system but a little bit more rare than before, and or adding them to the mvm drop system as season base drops.

  • @JacksJunkDrawer
    @JacksJunkDrawer5 ай бұрын

    I genuinely believe the Classic should be how the stock Sniper Rifle functions.

  • @SaintRedFox

    @SaintRedFox

    5 ай бұрын

    i think they should make the sniper rifle work like the TFC sniper rifle and make the classic a reskin

  • @MajWoody
    @MajWoody6 ай бұрын

    Nice soundtrack choice Zesty!!!! Also, very spicy takes!!

  • @IronCosmo
    @IronCosmo5 ай бұрын

    Holy shit I watched a 50 minute video and never once realized it was 50 minutes until it was over, good shit Zesty

  • @reagansido5823
    @reagansido58236 ай бұрын

    Hot take: I just stole your torch.

  • @copperCCSD
    @copperCCSD6 ай бұрын

    I’m at the part where you’re talking about how sniper’s limiting factors are too easily overcome by skill. I think a neat change that could be made alongside some numerical tweaks would be making sniper take minicrits for 2~3ish seconds upon scoping in. This would encourage snipers to charge up their shots more often from behind cover, slowing down their kill rate, as well as making the act of entering scope itself a weighted decision with downsides that can’t be overcome by just aiming better. Additionally, since minicrits remove damage falloff, the enemy will have an easier time fighting back against a sniper that’s going too fast. Plus, sniper can have spy-like moments of bad luck where they scope in at a bad time and get obliterated, which can be funny and gives tf2’s two ‘assassin’ classes a shared identity in that sense.

  • @martinnotthatguyschultheis4539
    @martinnotthatguyschultheis45396 ай бұрын

    i love your content and ideas, keep making cool videos

  • @TheDeathMedic
    @TheDeathMedic6 ай бұрын

    34:01 is Zesty's foreshadowing of a Raiden vs Sam representation with Dane

  • @elliotthetacreightmore8311
    @elliotthetacreightmore83116 ай бұрын

    The reason why competitive sucks is because meet your match was a crap update. This wasn’t due to the concept being crap; but rather because it was handled like my penis when I realized I had a testicular torsion

  • @doomkitty7579
    @doomkitty75796 ай бұрын

    Damn I’ve misunderstood you. You seem cool.

  • @The_House_Always_Wins

    @The_House_Always_Wins

    6 ай бұрын

    Yeah he gets a lot of hate for a lot of bad reasons

  • @jack_5344
    @jack_53446 ай бұрын

    finally! i had been waiting for this vid since you made that twitter post!

  • @cheezeebutter452
    @cheezeebutter4522 ай бұрын

    14:37 Y'know it boutta get good when the Metroid Prime _Phendrana Drifts (Depths)_ theme plays.

  • @InfamousInvictis
    @InfamousInvictis6 ай бұрын

    11:05 I don't know bout other TF2ubers but believe me I could be negative bout the game and talk about it. I have no fear of being open about this bullshit. Why though? What is there to say that isn't already blatantly obvious? 1 Dev, bots everywhere, yeah games shit. The entire community has been an echo chamber of the same grievances they have with Valve since 2017. There is nothing I could announce that hasn't already been repeated 100 times already so I don't bother. I don't need to "inform" the community about the bullshit. It's constantly thrown in their face everytime they play the game.

  • @PerryAngel-vq7hp
    @PerryAngel-vq7hp2 ай бұрын

    yooo Zesty Jesus tf2 now has 64 bit updates !! 😊 🙏

  • @franco1072
    @franco10726 ай бұрын

    Happy new year! hope you can hit 100k

  • @SoylentGamer
    @SoylentGamer5 ай бұрын

    Finally someone said it about the Direct Hit. LP really gave it a reputation as an anti-scout gun, but it really isn't warranted. As the titles of his videos suggest, he's a very emotionally driven player, and I'll agree with him, landing a Direct Hit on a Scout is deeply satisfying as a Soldier. It's also terribly frustrating as a Scout. However, at the end of the day, rocket+panic will kill faster and more reliably than the Direct Hit, and as a Scout as unfun as it is to fight the DH soldier, once they whiff a rocket, I've basically won, without losing a sliver of health.

  • @SaintRedFox

    @SaintRedFox

    5 ай бұрын

    i still like blasting away a grasshopper scout, either with a DH or rocket+panic

  • @Brown95P
    @Brown95P6 ай бұрын

    @24:06 "Likely the biggest reason for the Cow Mangler's ban is one-tapping Scouts peeking a choke with the charge shot, and god forbid we have anything that makes Scout anything other than overly oppressive." *_AMEN._* The absolute simping for Scout in 6v6 like he's the next coming of Melee Fox is precisely why I gave up on competitive in general, as if the removal of random bullet spread, one of the *_very few_* limiting factors of the class, wasn't already bad enough as it is; TF2's core balance barely hangs on with the thinnest of threads to begin with, as evidenced with Sniper's quickscoping and Medic's crossbow to a slightly less oppressive extent, and these community choices only make it come apart at the seams -- especially when the only way to play the game now is through said community. Also, yes, the game needs team scramble back badly; not autobalance, *_TEAM scramble._*

  • @mustard7306
    @mustard73065 ай бұрын

    What if the Pomson functioned exactly like the Righteous Bison (fast reload, penetrating projectile, same damage, etc), but instead of the cloak/uber draining stuff, it just caused spies to have an electrified effect similar to the visuals of afterburn that'd be visible while cloaked? It's not negating the Spy's skill because he has to get hit by the Engineer for it to apply, which means he either approached through spam or got caught and is retreating, but it rewards the Engineer for hitting the Spy by making it easier to track him down and finish him off.

  • @lavalord96
    @lavalord966 ай бұрын

    I already know this is gonna be a classic video; This is gonna blow up. (In a good way-)

  • @OccuredJakub12
    @OccuredJakub126 ай бұрын

    I wonder if nerfing the Kunai's overheal depletion rate to be the same as a Medic could be a good nerf. You're still rewarded but you have to act quickly to benefit from the bonus health and otherwise you'll more quickly return to your more vulnerable base form

  • @damianateiro

    @damianateiro

    6 ай бұрын

    Any class with overhealing is difficult to kill, in the case of the kunai, let it have the 210 maximum overheal.

  • @Lethal_Spoon
    @Lethal_Spoon6 ай бұрын

    the amount of times someone has gone direct hit to counter me when i’m scout just to get absolutely destroyed is hilarious

  • @KyryloMudrokha
    @KyryloMudrokha6 ай бұрын

    Stupid request, but can you tell me where is that long ass solarlight comment? I want to see this myself lmao.

  • @AshleysBrother

    @AshleysBrother

    6 ай бұрын

    Same

  • @AliceGorgonia
    @AliceGorgonia2 күн бұрын

    The thing I actually took away from the cow mangler part, was that players drop ammo packs now. Which lead me down a rabbit hole to find out that you can pick up and use other players' weapons now, and somehow I missed ever hearing about that being a thing. I hadn't realized it had been *quite* that long since I played much. Also, nice dispenser-chan.

  • @graysongdl
    @graysongdl3 күн бұрын

    "People are just nostalgic for arena, they didn't actually play it for more than a few minutes!" Explain why I spent 99% of my TF2 playtime in the late 2010s on the Randomizer Arena server (back when the original was still up).

  • @stormerplayson
    @stormerplayson6 ай бұрын

    zesty never fails to be entertaining

  • @BottomOfTheDumpsterFire
    @BottomOfTheDumpsterFire6 ай бұрын

    Hot take Pomson should have kept the damage, penetration, and big hitbox, but no cloak or uber drain

  • @chocox6491

    @chocox6491

    6 ай бұрын

    Oh so it had a bigger hitbox? That explains it cuz i remember it being usable years ago

  • @BottomOfTheDumpsterFire

    @BottomOfTheDumpsterFire

    6 ай бұрын

    @@chocox6491 Yep, same with Bison. No idea if they fixed it, but I feel like they didn't so it does 1 tick less damage than it used to.

  • @Fatsaver

    @Fatsaver

    6 ай бұрын

    The thing it actually needs is a larger hitbox and have its projectiles not instantly consumed by your teammates. That's honestly it.

  • @bullhammer59

    @bullhammer59

    Ай бұрын

    @@Fatsaver pomson (and bison) just needs to be reverted to the old projectile system, used to be so much fun, and the new system is just horribly unsatisfying to use

  • @Fatsaver

    @Fatsaver

    Ай бұрын

    @@bullhammer59 Yes but because Pyro won the update and Valve ''fixed'' flame particles (bison and pomson used that before) i don't even think Valve could revert them back even if they wanted.

  • @linksbro1
    @linksbro1Ай бұрын

    My idea for balancing sniper is to make the sniper rifle have damage falloff that the scope charge negates, meaning a 100% charge having 0 damage falloff and an un-scoped or quick-scope shot having normal bullet damage falloff.

  • @D-N-0
    @D-N-02 ай бұрын

    i killed 4 people with a direct hit crit. direct hit has a splash damage, thus it is op (i am joking, alright?)

  • @realspycool
    @realspycool6 ай бұрын

    the fallout from this video will be biblical

  • @s4ndr3x98
    @s4ndr3x986 ай бұрын

    10:20 what is that video?

  • @AlfredHeinrichKarlLudwig

    @AlfredHeinrichKarlLudwig

    14 күн бұрын

    A video called Custom Decals - TF2's 'Biggest' Mistake *read the description pls*

  • @KaledTV
    @KaledTV6 ай бұрын

    26:45 the Winter Woodsman is an amazing all class hat, it fits all classes pretty well without clipping the character model.

  • @YumiS4iR4
    @YumiS4iR46 ай бұрын

    As always, amazing video Zesty

  • @driedspace3687
    @driedspace36876 ай бұрын

    As part of the Masses, this has been delivered to me, thank you Jesus Christ tf2

  • @iguess2359
    @iguess23596 ай бұрын

    My idea that I’ve always had to for putting old content back in the game is some contract or trade up that allows you to give a certain amount of ref for a chance at any crate in the game. It would work similarly to how the Halloween items work in which you place say 3-5 ref and you have a chance at any crate in the game (excluding one you can’t open) not only would this fetch valve hella money. It would also help the key inflation issue immensely. Also it would allow for older hats (like ones in the gargoyle case) to actually have a legit chance to now have new effects on them as cases won’t be an obscene 10-20 dollars per pop

  • @Psyche_TH

    @Psyche_TH

    2 ай бұрын

    Bread Box 2.0 but permanent, I like it.

  • @landlockedcroat1554
    @landlockedcroat15546 ай бұрын

    havent had a good day, this made it a bit better

  • @hannah2797
    @hannah27972 ай бұрын

    Appreciated the Azumanga references. Enjoyed the extra sarcasm hehe. Thanks for the vid :)

  • @Jiggly_Ro
    @Jiggly_Ro6 ай бұрын

    All these hot takes makes me want to go back to 2007 TF2 on my PS3. Such good Times.

  • @seronymus

    @seronymus

    6 ай бұрын

    Tf2 ps5 port when?

  • @Jiggly_Ro

    @Jiggly_Ro

    6 ай бұрын

    @@seronymus I think TF2 will be instead ported to the ps10 in the next 50+ years.

  • @plungagaming
    @plungagaming6 ай бұрын

    I was the medic in some of the clips, so fun playing on stream. But great vid man, love the content.

  • @-Knave
    @-Knave6 ай бұрын

    Making the Kunai heal up the Spy the amount gained on backstab like he's being temporarily pocketed by a Quick Fix could be a possible change. It'd mean there's a few seconds where direct hitting him with rockets and pipes is still lethal while also letting the spy run from minor damage sources.

  • @Freesorin837
    @Freesorin8376 ай бұрын

    What do you think of the Short Circuit having a longer deploy time like the Atomizer and no metal from dispensers and payload carts while active (or even at all and you must use ammo boxes)? It would reduce it's ability to be used in a quick reactionary way, thus forcing players to use it preemptively or not at all, as well as reduce turtling. This would make it far more manageable and less punishing to fight against while still keeping it functionally the same for the people who like to use it.

  • @PenPenPending
    @PenPenPending6 ай бұрын

    I wonder if bringing Sniper's melee damage down to that of Spy or Scout would be enough, just such that a crit wouldn't kill most classes on it's own. Hey that might even end up fixing the Bushwacka by proxy.

  • @unr34L-

    @unr34L-

    6 ай бұрын

    Tribals would be meta rofl

  • @newman_real3079
    @newman_real30796 ай бұрын

    Add a cooldown to being able to headshot with sniper, aka it takes a second after charging to be able to get headshots, you know, to make him weak at close range

  • @duck-1109
    @duck-1109Ай бұрын

    36:31 "Exhilirating~ Oh Brian~" amazing stewie impression.

  • @lawrencevanafrika9898
    @lawrencevanafrika98985 ай бұрын

    As a cow mangler enjoyer I never knew you could charge it. I have found this video being a life changer.

  • @thebotanist7145
    @thebotanist71456 ай бұрын

    Church of UncleSoundPurpleDane I can't

  • @duckgossip
    @duckgossip6 ай бұрын

    Hey zesty, did you know you can extinguish with the Sydney sleeper? I saw a clip with a teammate on fire but you didn’t extinguish him with the piss rifle. Just an fyi!

  • @Sk1vo
    @Sk1vo6 ай бұрын

    I’m sorry just the starting lightning round hot take and then the “cheers to you bucko” *punches the fucking mic* killed me 😂

  • @chickenlegsmcgee9246
    @chickenlegsmcgee92466 ай бұрын

    You are truly a man of the ppl and we love you

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