That pine looked like it had been soaked in water for awhile before he sliced it.

@shadowblade9461

9 ай бұрын

def looked soaked or steamed

@EasyMoneySG

9 ай бұрын

or it was a wax coating

@timsawyer9231

9 ай бұрын

Looks like wax or glue to me.

@gn2539

9 ай бұрын

It was cypress.

@KainzMusic

9 ай бұрын

Something definitely not right with that cut.

(Table saw lathe) "There's nobody here in the shop who could rush me to the hospital. Let's do the sketchiest thing we can find on the internet..."

Edit Edit: so apparently the planing championships don't do cross-grain planing like here, so the authenticity is still in question Edit: apparently the thinly sliced wood isn't pine, but port orford cedar, notable for fine grain and good cross-grain strength, making such thin slices possible I think the translucent layer in that tiktok might have been glue or other stuff they'd applied to the end and then just peeled off with the chisel. I don't think wood like that has enough cross-grain integrity to hold together when cut to such thin sheets.

@ForeMoreGolf

9 ай бұрын

That was my first thought too

@Grouchy_Hermit

9 ай бұрын

almost looked like wax

@ryanokeefe12

9 ай бұрын

@@Grouchy_Hermit Wax coatings will still break apart if you shave them off. It's a polyurethane or lacquer

@rossgirven5163

9 ай бұрын

@@ryanokeefe12 depends what wax

@johnnyho900

9 ай бұрын

I think it’s wax too. Similar to what Rockler or Woodcraft would use in their small blocks to seal them.

For the "table saw lathe" one, *I* was fully puckered and I'm 1500 miles away and several days removed. You are a brave brave man, John Malecki.

@hartman601

9 ай бұрын

Actually a pretty safe cut. Stumpy nubs tested it a bunch. Izzy swan was the first place I saw it. He has adapted it to make a variety of shapes.

@FlavioCamus

9 ай бұрын

@@hartman601 Izzi is the man

@TheWoodenHobbyist

9 ай бұрын

@@hartman601 whenever I’m doing, stumpy nubs for the final say 😂 he’s like my woodworking fact checker

@andrewrowe4897

9 ай бұрын

@@hartman601 You can tell how long people have been on KZread watching woodworking vids... Referencing 'I saw Izzy do that years ago' is definitely one of the ways.

@RyTrapp0

9 ай бұрын

@@hartman601 May be a pretty safe cut, just probably not quite how John did it lol

Cypress, not pine. It's a near perfect wood for doing super thin shavings. All the competitions using Japanese style planes do it on cypress

Tip on the bending: use the THINNEST possible blade in your arsenal, make cuts that are the same spacing as the cuts, lightly sand (or use angled cuts for the whole thing) each slice to a taper, and GENTLY bend backward to insert the glue, making sure there are NO voids. You may also want to use epoxy rather than glue. Do the whole project slow and gentle as the frills are Very delicate until sealed if done right

@BrunodeSouzaLino

8 ай бұрын

The bending one wouldn't need testing because that method of bending is used in acoustic guitar construction. That's how you attach the sides to the top and back.

@purefury702

5 ай бұрын

I did some kerf bending on a cabinet project. Learned a few things on the way. Test cuts to determine ideal cut depth. If it snaps when you go to bend it, cut deeper. Be mindful that you are bending the long grain, especially if working with plywood. There are online calculators to help with ideal spacing. As I understand the math your total kerf through the bend should be the length difference between the inner and outer curve. Use a thin kerf blade for a smoother curve. Sand BEFORE you cut kerfs so you don't sand away your thin curve exterior. If the design can hold its shape and you don't cut too many kerfs, then glue isn't vital. The compression across the kerfs is actually pretty good at keeping the joint secure.

@minimonkeyplay

2 ай бұрын

The best way in my opinion to do it is to use a 0 point 18 degree router bit. then do 5 passes. You also don't end up with any gaps when bending it.

Could he have wet the timber when he chiseled it, looks wet to me?

@pauldriscoll5010

9 ай бұрын

It maybe a stabilising resin too

@MrGelowe

9 ай бұрын

It's definitely the wood and not the chisel. There is no way any dry wood on end grain would behave like that like in the original.

@Protopious

9 ай бұрын

He had it treated with something. There was a sheen and the wood looks stabilized somehow for sure.

@TheFirBall

9 ай бұрын

i was thinking it was wet as well

@ricvanesh9445

9 ай бұрын

it's totally embedded in wax

The wood for the end grain one looked like it was finished or had resin on it. I think he was shaving off something else there's no way end grain held together like that. You don't get ribbons from planning end grain right...

@slmason72

9 ай бұрын

you can see the difference in color, it looks wet after it's "shaved"

@dannybolewski7440

9 ай бұрын

I thought it was played in reverse at first

@berthatton9410

9 ай бұрын

wax

@ripleyadamski

9 ай бұрын

Wax was my first thought also!

@mitchellmcclarnon1308

9 ай бұрын

I believe it was probably green wood?

On the bending one you can just make thinner cuts, soak it a bit in hot water and mix that wood's sawdust with the glue to close the gaps then maybe round it over, or cover the edge with thin laminate. Great effort nontheless, it's always good to know even professionals don't always get it right the first time they try something, teaches any one starting their journey that it's not the end of the world when you mess up sometimes.

Definitely wet the pine it makes a huge difference. They also may have used some green wood. With stuff like pine and fir if it's old or has been kiln dried the sap will have hardened making it more difficult to work. Thats part of why timberframers can peel off thin strips of wood when fitting the green fir beams.

For the first one try a 1:1 water + alcohol mixture (vodka will work too) to soak the end grain. It definitely changes the process of end-grain planing and chiseling. Not sure about the paper-like single shaving though.

@mrroboshadow

7 ай бұрын

if i had to guess probably like a see through sticker or something that they just peeled off with the chsel to make it look like it was a paper thin slice

@mattydominic4219

5 ай бұрын

Yea, looks like wood glue to me. @@mrroboshadow

@1boobtube

Ай бұрын

1st one is a scam you can see its a thin layer that isn't wood. Apply it to to end grain but it up to a pc of glass and let cure. Butter, wax in a solvent, pva might all work. Wax is a generic name for a range of materials it's not all brittle. Super soft plastic like crayton would probably work. (the plastic in gel candles)

Thank you for mentioning me!😄Good job on the joint👌👍 17:26

I think the person in the first video used glue on it, because the wood underneath the peel is shiny.

If you felt like re-trying the kerf bending one. Use your new finger joint indexing guide to have even spacing.

Love that you explain how to do it, just seeing the videos doesn't necessarily give you all the info. Keep up the good work!

@6:56 I just would like to mention this might be the reason for the failed curve is that you didn't do equal interchanging cuts on both sides of the board like it is shown in the video allowing it to be more flexible.

The first video is fake. It's probably a layer of glue. End grain pine will never stay together like that roll up and be almost transparent.

@willsmith8576

9 ай бұрын

Agreed. I was also thinking it could be wax.

John that was great video love the finger/box joint explanation you did been looking do this for bit so thank u for the help on that!! Love the series hope u and the fam are good!! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿👍

@vee_tinymoose

9 ай бұрын

Yes! Thank you for the explanation and walk through if finger joint

That finger joint jig looks so cool. I've only made a couple things woodworking like a coffee table and a bathroom cabinet. I really want to try that joint.

You're a quick thinker and entertaining and whoever edits these is hilarious!

I think the bends were probably steamed first, even a simple handheld garment steamer maybe. Otherwise you would need truly perfect stock everytime, the tiniest grain difference could ruin pieces easily.

@grfnprjx

9 ай бұрын

definitely would have helped to take the steamer to the non-cut side before bending/gluing. also would have done a lot more math to make the cuts more symmetrical and so each corner did 90 perfectly, but for a beginner attempt john did ok :)

Always love your videos, glad to see one as it premiered while im up all night taking care of my sick kid

I wish all the people saying the first video is fake would try to recreate whatever ridiculous things they are suggesting and record it. It's real wood, end grain Japanese cypress wet with some added water ( not soaked, not green wood, not steamed) and a sharp 36mm chisel. The setup is probably harder than the actual cutting because the guide block needs to be perfect for these results. It isn't glue, tape, wax, wax paper, polyurethane, shellac, glued on paper, resin, or anything else but wood and some water. The type of wood is the most difficult thing to get but spreading some hand tool knowledge feels like it is desperately needed here.

@maxjackism

5 ай бұрын

Ya, as good a theory as mine...or better but I have been at this woodworking thing for over 60 years but you can always learn new tricks.😅

I wish I could be in your shop every day, we would always have fun. And I love woodworking. Thank you for sharing, sir. One love to all.

John... Not sure I would have had the intestinal fortitude to try the table saw lathe. I am going to do the finger joint one, it looks like something even i could do. But then again, you make everything look so easy. :-) Thank you for sharing!

I’ve had reolink cameras up front and back of my house for the past 5 years or so. They’ve been excellent. Really clear colour videos during the day and nice sharp infrared during the night. I can highly recommend them. Also the app is brilliant and easy to use. Nice and easy to view live or show past history (stored in the sdcard of the camera) 👍.

That key joint was so awesome looking and so much surface area for glue. I bet it's insanely strong.

You are the king epoxy and woodworking.

For the kerf cutting, to eliminate the ugly gaps that are left showing, don't use a miter saw (or saw of any kind) but instead use a 6.2 Degree taper CNC bit in your router

@John_Malecki

9 ай бұрын

this is smart. Thank you!

@Volt64bolt

9 ай бұрын

6.2deg? Only specific, most tapered endmills are in steps of 5, or 10 maybe 1 or 2 deg once you get to shallow tapers.

@RGun90

9 ай бұрын

@@Volt64boltwith CNC bits it's not uncommon to find them with tapers specific down to the hundredth

@Volt64bolt

9 ай бұрын

@@RGun90 I take it you don’t mean those funky little half faced ‘engraving’ bits?

@MattWeber

9 ай бұрын

@@Volt64bolt def not the engraving bits, but professional TAPER bit. They arent cheap but they give that insane incremental level of options.

Paint the end grain with pva, when it dries it will be clear and easy to take a cellophane thick slice off it with a sharp chisel.

The Reolink cameras are a great option for people that don’t have great internet. Use a SD card for storage. You can still access them from the internet. Good video.

Awesome video John….it’s awesome to see some different ways to do wood working.

You need to calculate the difference between the inner and outer radius of the kerf and then remove that amount of material by calculating how many cuts it’ll take with the kerf of your blade. That way, you’ll get a perfect 90 on the bend.

@ThisRandomGuyYouDidntNotice

9 ай бұрын

so it depends on a lot of things, blade width, wood thickness... probably sometimes planning before "just doing" will yield better results? :O

@arjones87nz

9 ай бұрын

Oh, so you got the gist of it then?

@ScamstinCrew

9 ай бұрын

Blocklayer is a site ive used for this kind of thing. they have a curf bending calculator. Its pretty nifty.

pretty sure its cedar coz when you watch japanese wood joinery house builds they plane it and it makes big long cuts that look like snake skin

@Protopious

9 ай бұрын

Right. But that's done with Japanese planes and also cut with the length of the grain. The person in the video had the wood stabilized somehow I'm pretty sure.

@John_Malecki

9 ай бұрын

I think its japense cedar too. Its for sure not pine haha i was stupid to think that when i tried

@gn2539

9 ай бұрын

It's cypress. AKHIRA (the woodworker in the video) mentioned it in his comments.

Great stuff John!!!

I never took wood shop in high school, I was in metal shop, so all these things are really neat. That finger joint was really neat.

What if he laid a thin layer of wood glue down and let it dry, then shaved it off?

@christopher5855

9 ай бұрын

That’s what I was thinking. Honestly I’m not a woodworker so I dunno but if I was trying to fake it that would be the first thing I’d try.

@khornethegrim8258

9 ай бұрын

Could have been something like bee's wax, too.

That endgrain thing is for sure peeling off finish and not cutting wood

@John_Malecki

9 ай бұрын

I think it could be Japanese cedar.

@wolfi_therescue8121

9 ай бұрын

He for sure used wood glue on the end grain.. 100%

Excellent work, John! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

Great content as usual, I was thinking if you need ideas for content what about an "ask John" segment where people write in questions on how to do stuff? Like how do you cut on round stock or dowels as in making bookends with a cutout that mates up to the other bookend to make a heart or a star?

I think the first one is a hoax, maybe a layer of wax over the endgrain and then he chiselled it off, dont think wood can behave like that

@John_Malecki

9 ай бұрын

I think it was japanese cedar after it kicked my ass and i did some research haha

You need a good Starwars "Its working. It's working!!" in here every once in a while

Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work John. Fab On. Weld On. Keep Making. Stay squirrely. God bless.

I had NO IDEA this crazy yinzer was so close! Came for the epoxy vids and stayed for the unboxing/pallet vids.

The wood was wet and the chisel sharp that's the trick, the wood looks like hinoki cypress, i can get a complete shaving with my kanna on the end grain. And the water trick is used when planeing wood with knots.

I like how realistic the struggle of recreating viral hacks was.

For the kerf bending, I've seen a video where someone used a steep angle v bit to cut the kerfs, so when folded there were no gaps in the side grain

@dottyjyoung

9 ай бұрын

OH!!!! Good idea!

To make the bent wood with the kerf, if you use a tapered router bit, you eliminate the open spots at the bottom of the cut when it’s folded. Being your saw blade makes a rectangular kerf, you’re left with a triangular gap once you bend it. The tapered router bit fixes that

@darrinlindsey

9 ай бұрын

What's the smallest tapered bit available?

@DS-ip4ns

9 ай бұрын

@@darrinlindsey I don’t know the smallest made but a quick google search, I saw a 6.2 degree with a 1/64 tip. But you’d have to figure out what angle based on how many kerfs you want to make. To obtuse of a bit and you’d still have gaps or you’d go past the desired bent angle. To acute and you’d need more cuts. There’s a video on KZread about it

@DS-ip4ns

9 ай бұрын

@@darrinlindsey not sure on the smallest but i believe if you space out the cuts according to the bit you have, it works with any angle.

Love the finger joint.

Shout out to my favorite KZreadr John Malecki for entertaining the masses again with just another great video!

That first video with the chisel, he was cutting off WAX. LOL

I love the David Blaine spoof gif that’s a deep cut 😂

Japanese pine is not just pine, its an amazing quality wood. The chisel has its merit, but the wood takes the cake.

"Should probably have done a test, but I'm a fricking a**hole." aaaaand subbed

The finger joint technique is super awesome...I am going to try it

Love ur content, you earned my sub 🤙

Lathe and Tablesaw, probably the two most dangerous tools in woodworking... lets combine them!! Jeeze lol

Hi John, I saw this video, he uses a table saw to round out a block. He made a way better jig for the saw, start the video at 12:28 for the jig. Love your content!

You can use a tapered router bit (like the kind for a CNC) instead of the miter saw so that the ends all meet up on all ends. Requires a ton more prep and math, but it's WAY cleaner.

I had a 1950s craftsman radial arm saw and that thing was SO MUCH more terrifying than any anything else I ever used

That was a lot of fun to watch

Everytime I watch one of these videos my wife sees a portrait of Joseph Stalin in the background.

I like the hand router. I haven’t used one of those in years.

The fake David Blaine add-in clips were hilarious!!! Totally forgot about those videos

If you want to do the chisel trick you have to chisel off the rough end with the chisel first, once you chisel off the rough first layer it will be smooth enough to try it.

Be kind to each other. Stay safe. Love to all

He was pealing the layer of glue off the end grain. 😂

i have did the corner cuts before. best way to get it perfect. is to build a jig. cut corners on top. and clamps and jig on bottom on a flat surface to make it square.

Looks great.

Going to do the finger joints on one of my shop draws just to practice them 😊

I've used Reolink for 4 years now and I love their system.

Just bought an In Ron We Trust T-Shirt. Thanks for the content, keep on hustlin.

Thank you John, for testing these "ideas", so I can see if they are good or not. Entertaining to watch, and it potentially saves me a lot of time and cursing😅

Cool video thanks for sharing

I made the same box joint jig but for my table saw sled.

I calculate how many cuts I need based on the desired interior and exterior radii and the thickness of your blade. I have done it with plywood, but I have never tried solid lumber. Nice video, thanks.

I noticed you use the table hook to hold your pieces down. if you use a cloth between the hook and the piece you can put more pressure and reduce the movement the piece is capable of.

These Videos Are So Awesome

For the first end grain cut with a chisel, the technique to start the peel would be to keep one finger above the chisel and push the handle gently sideways so that you obtain a circular motion of the blade edge. This way, the angle of attack would be lower than the 25 or 30 degree on your chisel and prevent the split of the fibres.

that pine was 100 percent wet in that chisel video.

3:46 my childhood brain… “HIT SELECT BITCH!!! HIT SELECT!!” Mortal Kombat has been awesome for decades.

200$ for a 10" lathe and I dont have to play stupid to turn it round on a table saw. priceless

Good stuff!

Dude, your chisels aren’t sharp enough

an idea i think you should do is putting glass rocks in a river table and led lights i think it whould look relly cool🥰

Fun to watch.

You know that bendy thing would make a very cool raised bed

This is a brilliant chanell. I hate tool tick tocks and shorts, but i love seeing you verify them!

hey guys this video isnt actualy fake, he has other videos of him using chisels at other angles, japanese chizzels can hold high angles 25 degrees is standard with the high rockwell they will retain an edge, the wood used is Japanese hinoki (cypress). I bet i can do this myself with spruce

@gizanked

8 ай бұрын

I did it with an Irwin chisel and a piece of basswood. You can't convince the hundreds of people that have said it is wax or finish or glue.

the wood in the first vid was green wood. It behaves much different than dried wood.

So hey I saw your not using that cricut up there I would love to use it if it's just collecting dust!! Love love love the videos!! ❤❤❤

Izzy did the dowel / drill / table saw trick yonks ago. Re the sharp chisel .. are you / we sure it's wood that curled up .? looks a bit like end grain sealing wax ! Thks. good vid.

the problem with the table saw jig, i thinkl is the impact driver vs a drill potentially?

I really appreciate the "Cheezits" David Blaine parody sketch quick insert during the curved cut part.

You can use the table saw finger jig to cut slits in your wood cabinet piece and get proper deep slots, the trick for that one is to get the slots deep into the wood so it almost reaches the outside flexible wooden sheet part of the wood boards and you can get the radius of the furniture without any troubles.

a tapered blade for kerf cutting? might be worth a look

I’ve watched a video on the wood bending. There was a lady in Europe doing it. She was using I believe it was birch plywood. She was making coffee tables. She was no amateur in a wood shop. Produced some great looking furniture.

You should try your hand at building a cedar strip canoe. I bet that would be some good, interesting, and fun content.

Definitely thought the wood was soaked first for the chisel

That wood looks soaked before he chiseled it.