I use rechargeable batteries and I haven't bought alkaline or any disposable ones for more than a decade now. My rechargeables are still with me and still going strong. They cost more initially, but you can save in the long run. Save the planet.

@superchuck3259

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. They do degrade and get weaker over time. But they work great in remotes even if you need to charge them every 6 months as opposed to every year. Heck I have a 30 year old rechargeable that still holds about 1 volt. Fine for a flashlight.

@baneverything5580

2 жыл бұрын

@@superchuck3259 Smart chargers that cycle and condition NiMH rechargeable batteries can keep them healthy. Many people misuse or improperly charge them or leave them at a discharged state and damage them or throw them away when they get too depleted to receive a charge from a cheap charger. I have four AA NiMH batteries I bought in 2016 that get heavy daily use and they`re still going strong.

@mbaxter22

2 жыл бұрын

@@baneverything5580 I thought the need to fully discharge was only for Ni-Cad batteries, not NiMH...

@wildeninja2836

2 жыл бұрын

Even have usb chargeable lol

@justanotherguy8791

2 жыл бұрын

@@superchuck3259 exactly. I'm not a photographer that needs it in their flash to make money. I use it in my harmony remote. It I recharge them every 3 months or every 5 months it literally doesn't make a difference to me. Plus I have an extra set that I just rotate them when needed.

I’ve had the same 8 rechargable (4 duracell) (4 energizer) for almost 5 years now and they’re going strong The damn charger itself has had to get replaced before any of my batteries actually 😂

@rahalrodrigo5430

2 жыл бұрын

Damn😂🔥

@clickallnight

2 жыл бұрын

Good to hear, just bought some Energizer rechargeables at Costco

@stephanegoulet509

2 жыл бұрын

Ive had problems with those chargers too. Now i swear by my panasonic bq cc55 charger and my good ol amazon basics nimh batteries

@Gr33kChief

2 жыл бұрын

going on 12 years now for me lol

@Eduardo_Espinoza

Жыл бұрын

Lucky your Duracell rechargeable batteries lasted, all of mine stopped working in less then half a year (used Duracell charger too), my Energizer rechargeable batteries still are working with a random charger, the Duracells are heavy af where as the energizers after normal weight. Feel like Target sold me bricks for batteries

For decades manufacturers have resisted calls for the capacity to be printed on the batteries. They say its not possible because it depends on the current draw. That's true but it also applies to rechargeable cells and they can mark them.

NEVER leave a Duracell in something that could sit awhile unused - like a flashlight or such. Duracells leak WAY more than Energizers and have destroyed several of my high cost flashlights!

@robertpaulson8790

Жыл бұрын

My dad still has an old school mag lite with the row of Duracells basically welded to the inside of the handle lol

@rangerrick8220

Жыл бұрын

@@robertpaulson8790 I lost 2-3 Mini-Mag Mag Lites due to Duracells... I decided I was going to get those batteries out of one no-matter-what! I ended up pretty much completely destroying the flashlight... but to my satisfaction, got them out. I do NOT buy Duracells any more.

@dafly46543

Жыл бұрын

@@rangerrick8220 You know, I don't usually buy either 2 of these anymore. I have been using Rayovac for many years. When I first started using them, I got batter capacity, not sure if its the same way or not. But I saved a lot more money and honesty, I haven't had the leakage issues as I do with other brands. Wall.... goes through a lot of these so they are always fresh in the store.

@Littlebill85

Жыл бұрын

I had a $45.00 device damaged by Duracell leakage. I got my replacement info and price together and gave them a call No fuss from them at all. Sent a full replacement cost check promptly.

@Monza62000

Жыл бұрын

i stopped buying duacells ..they leak ..sad part the used to be the best

I am a believer in rechargeables. Cost about the same, and last MUCH longer in the long run!

@Xarai

2 жыл бұрын

lithium ion......

@christianflores3437

2 жыл бұрын

Cost alot more

@rightpassage

2 жыл бұрын

@@christianflores3437 Not as much. I've been using the same rechargeables for 2 years! The one-time fee has saved me a lot!!!

@docstockandbarrel

2 жыл бұрын

And they don’t leak.

@gamingtonight1526

2 жыл бұрын

Was going to say the same thing! Remember, though, there are different power rechargeables, that hold different amounts of power.

I live in the US but I wish this series was available to watch on TV in the US it always comes on my recommended and I always enjoy them

@cbot375

2 жыл бұрын

Kirkland batteries are 90% as good as the top brands and cost less than half the price.

@dean8842

2 жыл бұрын

@@cbot375 And they make some damn fine cookies and snacks, too!

@edwardryce2618

9 ай бұрын

You was able to pick up channel 9 in the great lakes area and mid west but in 2000 you could not pick up channel 9 the Canadian channel I agree they had good programs

@christiansotelo55

2 ай бұрын

That's what iptv is for!

Would be interesting to know what the recycler in Michigan does with the batteries... Issue is many recyclers do some recycling on site (tick in the box) but if low revenue and high expenses then export to other countries. Turns out those countries intermediaries will just pocket a bit of money and bury the materials that have no value in the first local landfill hurting the local people with pollution.

@djdarq6311

Жыл бұрын

They take the money from us and then throw them in the trash because USA that's what.

@TheBlackadder-Edmund

Жыл бұрын

@@djdarq6311 that is what I fear, but i think it is not only the USA, most "rich" countries have been caught dumping their Rubish in other , not as well of, countries. In this case the Canadian company most probably found a cheaper alternative, got some written assurances of the disposal process then they washed their hands...

My mother worked at a battery company back in the 60’s (Brightstar) and she always kept batteries in the fridge. For me now, every battery in my house is rechargeable.

@philc.9280

Жыл бұрын

The good old days with the older chemistry. You can't do that with lithium now as they are more temperature sensitive.

@trxtech3010

Жыл бұрын

@@philc.9280 "Good Old Days" yeah back in the Days of lead pipes, aluminum wiring, asbestos ceilings, asbestos siding, cars with no seat belts that tear bodys up when it accidents, lead in gasoline for everyone to breath..... yep the "Good ol Days"...

@philc.9280

Жыл бұрын

@@trxtech3010 not much worse than today.... pollution (air & water), global warming, overpopulation, waste disposal problem, deforestation, and genetically modified organisms (GMO)

@trxtech3010

Жыл бұрын

@@philc.9280 Naw, not at all. Things are still 100 times better then "Back in the old days"

@Rat-Builder

Жыл бұрын

Both of you guys are right and wrong. There are many things that are sooooo much better now than then, and there are sooooo many things that are far worse than they were. The thing is, we can't go back, only forward. It would be nice to benefit from past mistakes, but I can plainly see that we as a species are incapable of that sort of reasoning. I am 75 years old, to watch some of the happenings of the modern "world" is really disheartening.

I haven't bought disposable batteries in years, I Changed to Panasonic Eneloop Pro years ago from Enegizer rechargeables, i use them in power hungry devices like camera flashes and RC Toys and they last much longer, also I still have batteries that i bought in 2013 that still work. Its worth the Money to upgrade and stop waiting money on cheap disposable batteries.

@CSGraves

2 жыл бұрын

Same... my first pair or AAA's I got sometime before 2009... & they're still going. Not much reason to get disposables anymore, and it's just as well.

@4seeableTV

2 жыл бұрын

Same here. It's saved me a ton of disposables.

@zybch

2 жыл бұрын

Problem is that the vast majority of rechargables only rate at 1.2V (not sure of enerloop) but devices are designed around 1.5V. Not good on the device, not good on the batteries.

@Xenon255

2 жыл бұрын

@@zybch 1.2V is the nominal/average voltage of NiMH battery cells. They range from 1.45V freshly charged to 0.9V at the end of charge. Typically they hover over 1.25V to 1.3V for the majority of its discharge. Also many devices (unfortunately not all) tend to tolerate a wide voltage range since even alkaline cells will drop in voltage as they're used up.

@wabio

2 жыл бұрын

I'm assuming you are talking about NiMH and not Lithium. I bought a bunch years ago, but recently started switching back to alkaline for many applications. The rechargeables aren't bad, but far from perfect. First is the upfront cost. Second their voltage (as previously mentioned) is lower. Third - It's almost impossible to find good C or D cell NiMH.....and those AA conversion shells just don't cut it. Four- many brands the batteries are physically larger.....making it a problem when they get stuck inside something like a pen flashlight. Five- the biggest drawback is their short shelf life. You have to top them off every 6 months or so because they lose power sitting on the shelf. I have a ton of battery powered devices and don't have time to recharge 3 or 4 dozen batteries twice a year.

Duracells are the absolute worst for leaking. 80% of the ones I use end up leaking. I constantly clean my devices due to this problem. It's atrocious.

@punker4Real

2 жыл бұрын

I have a battery from 1989 that still works not as much voltage as it had 33 years ago but still works it's at 6 volts out of 9volts

@RandornCanis

2 жыл бұрын

@@punker4Real A 9 volt battery contains six cells. They're going to be tougher just from having multiple shells, and they leak internally.

@charlesmassie6775

2 жыл бұрын

That's the thing I hate about Duracell, they leak too much. Energizer leaks too, but nowhere near as bad. Duracell and Energizer are good if you're constantly using a device. If something isn't commonly used, it's probably best to get Rayovac or Panasonic. I've used all 4 brands and if you get the Alkaline version of Panasonic or Rayovac, you can't tell the difference between them and the big names. And they're a fraction of the price too.

@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix

2 жыл бұрын

I had some of those expensive duracells in the resealable package and they all corroded even though they were neber opened. I bought them on clearence and they didnt keep at all.

@monkeyboy7969

2 жыл бұрын

Buy Amazon batteries, check the reviews👌👌

Wait, if the manufacturers are "responsible" for funding the recycling facilities (per government decree, I assume, at least that's how it sounded), then how is that not a tax? Also, the consumer pays for it either way, whether it's built into the price of a cell or itemised on the receipt.

What Duracell and Energizer missed was that they can come down on their price and still make a profit by being competitive with the cheaper brands, especially now that people know that the cheaper brands are just as good. And the 2 that leaked were name brands. The cheaper ones didn’t leak

@TheEudaemonicPlague

2 ай бұрын

They didn't miss a thing, goofball, their profits are very high--in what way do you think reducing their profits would benefit them?...because people like something they can depend on, and no-name batteries are always going to be a gamble, no matter what the test today says. Yeah, so the abuse they put the batteries through caused a couple to leak...but the test is not real-world results, but lab results, and there's often a great difference between the two.

The bounce test works more or less and that voltmeter should not be used to test the battery - and here's why: digital voltmeters have what is called high impedance inputs. High impedance inputs behave like open circuits so they'll show the voltage of the chemical setup without considering the internal resistance. The best way to test that is to put some resistor (50 ohms, perhaps) between the battery's terminals and then measure the voltage - that's why the battery tester is the best device for that. What is the "voltage of the chemical setup"? If we go back a few centuries to Italy, Alessandro Volta (the guy that lends his name to Voltage) built the first galvanic battery. That was zinc and copper places with salt water soaked cloth between them. That battery has 1.10V because that's the the difference between the two metals "will to get or give electrons". Copper wants to get electrons at +0.34V while zincs wants to give electrons at -0.76V. (it might be the opposite but ... that's the idea: it's a property of the metals and if I use a device that draws no current from the battery I'll read 1.10V regardless of how well the chemical reactions are happening.)

@davidmacphee3549

Жыл бұрын

Yeah when they pulled out the Digital meter, I knew that was wrong. Thanks for typing all that out.

@miscbits6399

Жыл бұрын

The best test of batteries is measuring their AC impedance. This will tell you the condition of the internal electrodes and gives a very good indication of the actual capacity too

Disposable batteries should be required by law to state how much usable energy they contain - for example how many watt hours (or how many milliwatt hours) they can deliver until their voltage drops below some usable threshold. Everything else has to state exactly how much product you are getting for your money - if you buy a chocolate bar, loaf of bread, petrol or can of beans, it always says how much weight or volume of product there is. Even rechargeable batteries usually say how much they can store. Why don't single use batteries have this packaging requirement? Even better would be if they stated both watt hours(ie. energy) and the rate at which they can deliver that (ie. power)

@lumberjackdreamer6267

2 жыл бұрын

The usual standard is to rate the capacity at “1C”. For example if a battery is 2800 mAh, that’s 2800 mA for 1 hour. That’s 1C If you discharge that same battery at 2C, you would draw 5600 mA, and it will last less than 30 minutes. If you discharge it at 0.5C, you draw 1400 mA and it will last a little more than 2 hours.

@TheSiriusEnigma

2 жыл бұрын

@@lumberjackdreamer6267 lol. You just answered his question. The unit is mAh, and the value is written on the battery for standardized formats like AAA, AA, C, D, 9 volts.

@DaiAtlus79

2 жыл бұрын

most any battery i've purchased here in Canada has the mAh on the side. related - the rechargable Panasonic AA 2pk that dollarama sells are great @ about 3 bucks with 1000mAh per cell, and are a corporate relative to the Enloop Rechargables, but their 4pk AA rechargables are 2100 mAh for $26 on amazon. with the per cell cost, the Dollarama wins again!

@rtel123

2 жыл бұрын

@@DaiAtlus79 The forgotten factor is how many charge cycles it lasts for.

@lumberjackdreamer6267

2 жыл бұрын

@@DaiAtlus79 Yes. Rechargeable are now much better.

I did a test on Eveready, Energizer, Duracell, and Rayovac Maximum when they first came out. I tested them in a flash light and recorded the time for each. Duracell lasted the longest, while Rayovac was nearly identical minus a minute for like 25% less at the time. I still buy all 3, but thought they just rebranded Duracell under another name to get marketshare.

@prasannakumaris7149

Жыл бұрын

In India we have had a lot of brands of battery namely Estrala Ever ready Tudor And so on it was a

@prasannakumaris7149

Жыл бұрын

It was an era of small transistor radios The penlight types were doing well later Japanese models of Panasonic Sony Nippon National Toshiba came like a flood to compete with Ever ready. Because we have hot summers most of them has tropicalised models Duracell was s late entry The main problem of these small power packs are time these to retain power for a longer period. Rechargeable ones are relevant now Once a battery that lasts for a 100hrs is available for a device The world would see a good product in future

@bill5982

Жыл бұрын

I used to go caving. Energizers lasted 12 hours in my light, Duracells lasted 8 hours.

The leak batteries thing is highly depends on how you use and store the batteries. I know many people don’t, but I do check the batteries when I buy them, unless it’s not in a plastic case which you can’t check at all. Also store them using plastic seal bags, remove them from devices if you aren’t going to use them for a long period of time.

Back in the sixties my grandpa had a very expensive Geiger counter that ran off of some brand of battery that offered to replace any device damage by the battery. Well, the battery leaked and seriously damaged it. He sent it in and they replaced it a newer and even more expensive model. I forget the brand, but he was ecstatic about it and had nothing but praise about that company for the rest of his life.

@HighVoltageMadness

Жыл бұрын

that is impressively good customer service. Nowadays the company would say that it isn't there fault and your on your own.

@vickieadams6648

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂Good to hear.

@nc4tn

Жыл бұрын

They won’t do it anymore. Too many bean counters at the top.

@ralphyimages

Жыл бұрын

That brand was Rayovac. My father had a good quality flashlight and it was a Rayovac that leaked inside it, he wrote to the supplier and a brand new replacement duly arrived.

@nileshw1368

Жыл бұрын

@@HighVoltageMadness now most of the cells and battery manufacturers clearly mention that the company's liability is limited to free replacement of cell / battery, and that the original purchase bill is required. Company is not responsible for any personal or property damages.

I just use rechargeable batteries. I've been using the same double A's and triple A's for at least 6 or 7 years, with a few new ones here and there.

My Rechargeable batteries lasted from 2008 - 2020 in constant use before they started to rust from overuse & slowly over time last charge, used about two chargers overtime, GP Rechargeable batteries are the best I’ve ever used 💯🔥

@MrAdopado

Жыл бұрын

I've still got some NiCd rechargeables that I bought in the 1980s ... still working!

In our business we used rechargeable batteries in our paper towel dispensers. They were great. D cells that we would recharge 2 maybe 3 times a year. Saved us lots of money with 4 machines taking 4 batteries. Never had to buy new ones in the 9 years we ran the place. Still have them using them in flashlights now.

Thank you, very informative and straight to the matter. I don’t think we’d get an honest report like this in the USA. Too much advertising dollars to worry about.

@VieleGuteFahrer

2 жыл бұрын

Consumer Reports already did a video on batteries ten years ago. All that without stretching the information to 12 minutes and 33 seconds.

@nondescriptnyc

2 жыл бұрын

At least in NYC, these reports have been pretty common, especially on Channel 11. Recently, they reported that many of the brand name batteries at discount stores are counterfeits-and some may even be “rebadged” (i.e., putting the brand name labels and packaging on cheap, generic products) right here in New York.

@donskuse2194

2 жыл бұрын

@@VieleGuteFahrer Just fast forward it but some people like the detail.

@merlinious01

2 жыл бұрын

@@VieleGuteFahrer Consumer reports is a nonprofit that requires a subscription to access all their info. Not a news agency

@VieleGuteFahrer

2 жыл бұрын

@@merlinious01 The video I‘m talking about is free to watch, right here on KZread.

Although Alkaline is the leader for holding a charge, it is for low drain devices only. For high drain devices, you should use NiMH batteries. They hold 90% of a charge for 1 year. I have had good experience with Sanyo Enloop NiMH battery kit.

@jacklong7048

2 жыл бұрын

Enloop is now Panasonic.

@kjrchannel1480

2 жыл бұрын

I wish that were the norm. I have some that after awhile do loose their charge faster, or don't hold as much.

@441meatloaf

2 жыл бұрын

Or just buy rechargables....

@harisyoung4110

2 жыл бұрын

Lithium work best for high drain devices

@FurtiveSkeptical

2 жыл бұрын

Sanyo Eneloop here for me (Yes, now Panasonic) have used 8 of them for the last 10+ years quite regularly in fact. The current Eneloops also have a Pro option not too much more money that are designed for high demand electronics, camera flashes etc. The performance of mine are still quite acceptable after a decade of use. They are bought fully charged and retain the charge for quite some months after. Anyhow, they've been great for me and certainly worth the bucks.

Speaking of Panasonic, their Eneloop rechargables (formerly Sanyo Eneloop, before the company was acquired by Matsushita [now Panasonic]) are pretty good in my experience. Even my sister's 2009 Toyota Corolla LE came with an OEM Panasonic 12V car battery. As for disposables, I typically buy the Energizer lithium-based cells.

@TehKaiser

9 ай бұрын

Toyota used a Panasonic lithium 3V coin for key fobs. It read 3.125v when I took it out. After 17 years. I transfered it to a computer with a bad 3V. A KTS that failed in 2 years.

Eneloops are the way to go. They are low discharge and are rated for 1000 charges. I have Sanyo Eneloops still going strong and Sanyo sold that division to Panasonic 10+ years ago.

I did this exact tests as a science fair project in grade school 18 years ago, and my findings were the same - dollar store was the best bang for your buck, but duration wise Energizer and then Duracell were best.

@KH-fv3vq

2 жыл бұрын

I dunno. Energizer tends to leak

@billwheeler1213

2 жыл бұрын

Did this with my kid a couple of years ago, name brand mostly the best, rechargeable still better ad they are rechargeable surprising dollar store Panasonic was the best for long life low drain.

@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823

Жыл бұрын

@@KH-fv3vq Leak? Do you mean corrosion? That green and chalky stuff? That's from leaving the batteries in the device and not using it. Possibly humidity, too. Tape them to the item with gaffer's tape. Or have a small box for such.

@brycecolwell4304

Жыл бұрын

the take way here is the 25% more power you get from name brand worth the 100% more cost? i have rechargeable too but after years of use they are a hassle not holding power nearly as long as the alkaline, and the rechargeable are 200% more in cost.

@KH-fv3vq

Жыл бұрын

@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 From what I notice, Energizer batteries (Triple and Double As) would leak the clear odorless fluid from the positive and/or negative poles. Always happens to me.

12:31 👈🏼😂 Even the video run out of battery 🤦🏻‍♂️ and ended abruptly !! 🤣

Home Depot always seem to have the best prices on AA, C ,D & maybe 9 volt batteries at Christmas. Purchase the 40 oak of AA then I'm good til next Christmas. Purchased a $20 double sided battery holder that came with a cheap battery tester. Very convient to have all the batteries in one handy see thru box.

I remember a few decades ago Albertsons supermarket had store brand batteries and on the back of the packaging was the Duracell address and phone number for customer service inquiries.

@raymondjjohnsonjr363

2 ай бұрын

I used to work on Savin copy machines & thought they were the best brand. Then I found out that Richo ( another copy machine brand that we were in competition with owned Savin). 😢

The main reason why Duracell and Energizer is more expensive than the other brand is all due to advertisement. Duracell and Energizer have ads on TV, periodicals, webpages, and video streams. A large piece of that price chunk goes to the marketing department.

@alpoulin1

2 жыл бұрын

Energizer and Duracell will actually replace your electronics IF they are damaged by their batteries. Not so from the Dollar Tree...

No, the “bouncy test” does work, it’s just you don’t understand what the expectation is. It is to differentiate new batteries from used batteries, and a bouncy battery doesn’t necessarily mean it is completed drained, it only means it is used. The more used it is the more bouncy it is. But with no comparison, you won’t be able to tell if a bouncy battery has 0.99 volts or 1.32 volts left. You just know it is used.

@MsHojat

2 жыл бұрын

Not only that but _significantly_ used. I think that 1.3v is a cut off for a lot of electronic devices to function, so it's misleading to say that the battery is still good. It's lost most of it's energy, and will only run specific devices, likely a flash light or other primitive device.

@mailasun

2 жыл бұрын

​@@MsHojat I consider 1.2V to be the cut off for most devices, as "completely drained". However, some smaller devices such as optical mice, can go as low as 0.99V before calling it done.

@springer1985

2 жыл бұрын

For devices that need a lot of power, these bouncy batteries shouldn't be used anyway. When my high power devices stop working I put their batteries in my remotes and get a few more months out of them.

@chadwillett619

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not great at math so you'll have to explain how 1.3v left in a battery that started out 1.5v has lost MOST of its energy or is significantly used? 1.3v is still plenty good since it's likely not the only battery powering the device.

@t0nyz0

2 жыл бұрын

When she said 1.32v fine and the bounce test was not good I laughed out loud. Most devices will not run with a 1.32v, im not sure what experts they have been talking with but try it yourself.

These ladies look perplexed putting 6 double a batteries in a kids toy like they’re doing physics equations

I love the IKEA rechargeable AAA&AA’s. They last a real long time in between charges.

@Phantoma3

2 жыл бұрын

Same here, we use IKEA and ALDI rechargeables. We have 13 remote controls around the house for electronics, air conditioners and garage doors.

@kylereese4822

2 жыл бұрын

Fun fact... I have 4000 NiMH batteries they are for powering my garage , they was destined for scrap :( not as good as Lithium but better than them going into scrap for sure....

@coloradostrong

Жыл бұрын

@@Phantoma3 My gosh that sounds like a bunch of laziness. 13 remotes?

Yep I knew it, I've been buying Dollartree tore alkaline batteries for years and had a feeling they were just as good and lasted just as long that's such a lower price

Thanks so much! I always buy the Panasonic alkaline but questioned the e-circuit brand. Now I know that I can choose either one and keep saving money.

I'm surprised that they didn't talk about how the energizer and Duracell batteries will make the discount brands themselves sometimes. Its also funny that they complain about the eco fees then get upset that they needed to go with the cheaper option out of country. You get one or the other and personally wouldn't mind paying a little more to have them processed locally.

@Accidic

Жыл бұрын

I suspect that's the case with Amazon Basics or Kirklands brands which seem respectable compared to the cheaper device endangering batteries. :)

@TehKaiser

9 ай бұрын

Then that means Panasonic might be the Dollar tree supplier. They do not seem to have a major presence in other stores.

Why didn’t you test the lithium AA batteries they ask you to put in cameras?

@leeeastwood6368

2 жыл бұрын

never use anything else. expensive in the short term, but saves money in the long term!

@micahrutter5906

2 жыл бұрын

Chocolate rain!

@tyrous5584

2 жыл бұрын

Man, I just want to say, Chocolate Rain is one of those songs that helped DEFINE what KZread and the Internet was in the 2000s. What a great time to be a part of, the beginning of the internet culture.

@emissarygw2264

2 жыл бұрын

Probably wouldn't be a meaningful test. You'd get very different comparison results depending on how much power the machine draws.

@seethruhead7119

2 жыл бұрын

@@emissarygw2264 except you can use lithium aa batteries in place of alkaline in all your devices. I do.

I really appreciate this video, and all the details, like including the recycling portion of a battery’s life. Cheers.

I used to go caving and the energizers lasted 12 hours in my light, Duracells only lasted 8 hours. These were consistent numbers.

@myronchild349

Жыл бұрын

my experience exactly

Hard and fast rule on batteries: "heavy duty" do not last as long as alkaline in most devices.

I wish you would have included Kirkland Signature batteries to the test.

@sikchan5834

2 жыл бұрын

I read it from somewhere that Costco sourced them from Duracell

@DaiAtlus79

2 жыл бұрын

those are rebadged Duracells, sir!

@parkerbohnn

2 жыл бұрын

Kirkland also made car batteries. I had good luck with them. They cost about half what a real brand name battery cost and lasted just as long.

@alpoulin1

2 жыл бұрын

As mentionned, they are made by Duracell - so yes their performance is excellent and ALSO yes, they leak like crazy :)

@SmallSpoonBrigade

2 жыл бұрын

@@sikchan5834 I'm not sure what the specific manufacturer is, but all of the Kirkland Signature products are produced by somebody else. Usually that somebody is one of the name brands.

Flashlights are not low drain devices... Also carbon zinc batteries are important for people such as my self. 4 AAA name brand batteries dont run nearly as long as the 56 dollar store batteries (in a cost comparison). Cost is my major deciding factor when buying batters for myself.

@nocause5395

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah they know that but the point was most people don't know the difference or read the label

An important aspect of this investigation would be to look at the manufacturing processes of all these companies. It’s much cheaper to produce products in countries or facilities that don’t follow best practices when it comes to dealing with chemicals and safe work environments for their employees. The price of more responsible production COULD be built into the price of the bigger companies. Cheaper brands often cost cut when it comes to environmental considerations in their supply chains and processes.

Years of camping using Duracell changed my mind of the copper top brand. I have stopped using them as I've not had one device they were in where they didn't leak. If I removed them for log term storage, no problem, but I have had some leaks, while new, just like @6:30. IT's not IF they will leak, it's when. I've been using EBL's, Amazon basics, and Energizers and never had one ruin my device.

The alkalines have a major problem with leaking. So in a low drain device, like a TV remote, I use carbon cells. When you find out how much the original remote will cost to replace, then you see why an alkaline is a bad option.

@Mr_Battlefield

2 жыл бұрын

What about using a Lithium-Ion battery instead?

@clickallnight

2 жыл бұрын

I have switched almost entirely to rechargeables for this reason. There are a few different types and you have to learn a bit about their differences, but it has been worth it.

@bigdog8989

2 жыл бұрын

TV remotes here are replaced for free by the cable company. No worries from xfinity

@goldenboy5500

2 жыл бұрын

Try lithium batteries they will last for more than a year they also will not leak

@savagex466-qt1io

2 жыл бұрын

Iv never had a battery leak. Just a car battery. I use recharge energizer been useing them for years.

"Best" depends on your metric. The metric generally depends on your use case. For example, you might prefer a battery with more total power for your smoke detector, even though you are paying more for the power you're getting. You would want it to last until your next scheduled battery change.

@SmallSpoonBrigade

2 жыл бұрын

For the most part, no, a battery is a battery. The only measure that typically matters is the number of mAh that are in the battery. A 9v battery is a 9v battery, as long as the mAh is the same, you shouldn't see any meaningful difference. There is some variation in how well they do with cold and how flat their discharge curve is, but chances are that any differences that you're seeing are the result of the placebo effect. If you want to see a significant difference, you have to jump to something like NiCad or NiMH which do have significantly different characteristics.

As with a lot of your commenter's I use rechargeable batteries. What we need is the device manufactures installing a switch in their devices, so you can switch between disposable and rechargeable batteries. My main problem using rechargeable's is their only 1.2 volts, where disposable are 1.5 volts. If you have a device that uses 6 batteries, you have 7.2 volts vs 9.0 volts, some things won't run well.

A really nice and informative video that tells a lot about batteries. I reside in India and here the advantage is that each and every device including basic ones like clocks and flashlights too come with built-in Lithium Ion batteries and I have barely purchased any AA batteries in the past 5 years. Besides, even getting a replacement Li-Ion battery is much more inexpensive compared to a pack of AA batteries.

Very interesting, very useful. Now, please do the same for rechargeable batteries.

@alpoulin1

2 жыл бұрын

Project farm on KZread has done such tests. Very well done. He has similar videos for single use batteries as well.

@dotter8

2 жыл бұрын

@@alpoulin1 Cool, thanks!

Ok they established over and over that the alkaline has more energy, but is the price worth it for the zinc carbon if you are going to use it in a remote? they never even answered that question. their test of continuous use of the remote is also flawed because that isnt the real world use. what if the battery dies from old age rather than over use.

This is super heavy duty journalism right here!

Great report in many ways, but neglected to mention NIMH rechargeable. These never leak, and save you money too! I’ve had some that are still going strong 10 years later. Just buy reputable brands.

They didn't do a value test on Rayovac alkaline batteries that are normally on the bottom shelf at Walmart. (Rayovac 9 volt batteries work great in smoke detectors.)

@parkerbohnn

2 жыл бұрын

Surprisingly the great value brand also seems to work a long time for the price in smoke detectors..

@Calphurnious

2 жыл бұрын

I've noticed that off brand batteries don't work in my smoke detectors.

@onedayatatime8756

2 жыл бұрын

The AAA Ray-O-Vac batteries that I bought from Lowes, with an expiration date of 2/2028, are complete rubbish. They leaked and ruined some of my items in less than 1 year. I'd NEVER trust them in a smoke detector that's designed to save my life in the event of a fire.

@Quipson

Жыл бұрын

@@parkerbohnn Yes I went back to Walmart and saw those Great Value brand 9v alkaline batteries. I will try them in smoke detectors.

Eco fees are a tax period. The fact she can say with a straight face they are not is an indicator of government rot.

For analog clocks, I think the Zinc Carbon work fine, and since the batteries are a lot cheaper at Dollar stores, I don't mind changing them a little more often. For electrionics, on the other hand, I always try to use Alkaline.

You *should* have pointed out the crucial factor of *expiration dates* -- that box pictured at 3:29 for example reads "best before 3/24" which, in 2022, means that package has been sitting in some warehouse unopened and unused for about EIGHT YEARS. That expiration date is typically ten years when new. Further, while remotes and clocks are low-drain devices, a flashlight is definitely NOT. As far as recycling I'm not convinced there is such a thing. I used to take my spent batteries to Batteries Plus .... until one of them confided to me that they just throw them in the trash.

@poughquagpops3379

Жыл бұрын

Truth

Recharging is the way to go. The upfront costs rivel the name brand companies prices, but there are some lower use batteries that have last over a decade of use with a monthly recharge.

@familyhelfert2036

2 жыл бұрын

Rechargeable batteries have a self discharge rate of 1% per day. Not sure I'd use them in an emergency flashlight.

@Canterhood

2 ай бұрын

@@familyhelfert2036 Not Eneloops.

Thanks. I have been buying batteries according to price and I find the cheap batteries work just as well most of the time.

I agree with the use of rechargeable batteries. Having said that, I have used Duracell/Energizer standard cells in an Oregon weather station I own both in the sensor and receiver for 10 plus years. I stick a note inside the compartment with the date that I installed new ones. Up until say three years ago, I replaced them roughly one a YEAR. Now they last me one to two months. Why I wonder?

@nileshw1368

Жыл бұрын

They alter their cells quality, maybe. I use Duracell alkaline AAA cells in my laser. Earlier they used to last for 3 months straight before showing any sign of losing charge. Now they get fully depleted within 3 weeks, with occasional and minimal usage ! When kept idle for few weeks, these cells do leak and catch rust. So, we need to stay alert and careful.

This is VERY INTERESTING. I shop at DOLLAR TREE and at Walmart and buy batteries. I always thought Duracell (the copper top battery) were the best. But, now... I'm changing my thinking. The alkaline batteries from Dollar whatever might be a better deal. I NEVER see a battery recycling plant in the US and whenever I do, it's super costly to send it via mail and pay for the recycling. I LOVE RECYCLING AND WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OF IT IN THE US. ❤. Thank you for doing this battery comparison test. I really appreciate it. I had a rechargeable battery, but it was very expensive and it lost charge quickly after a while and the batteries spent more time in the charger than in the contraption.

@coloradostrong

Жыл бұрын

Go with the Dollar Tree store alkaline. Not the junk "heavy duty" ones, the alkaline. I took a digital camera on vacay for 10 days, with 10 Energizer AA size and 10 Dollar Tree AA size alkaline. I used 2 batteries each day. 1 pair from Energizer, then the next day, 1 pair of Dollar Tree batteries. There was no difference between the 2 types of batteries at the end of each day, and the temperature was in the 80's each day. Harbor Freight carries rechargeable batteries, they're NiMH, not Lithium-ion though.

I'm still using an "intelligent" battery charger I bought back in the eighties. It can even re-charge "non re-chargeable" batteries a few times! Back then it was all nickel cadmium tech. Now I use nickel metal hydrides. The latest "precharged" type are great. Same charger works fine. You do get the odd battery that stops taking a full charge from time to time but having a good charger helps as they charge in a way to prolong the life of the batteries and can identify faulty ones. Single use batteries are always my last choice.

@JrSpitty

2 жыл бұрын

Car batteries are rechargeable too... used past their useful life they will explode and burn the skin clean off of you with sulfuric acid. Ask anyone who has lived foolishly to attempt to charge and jump start a car battery. DON'T CHARGE BAD BATTERIES OR INCOMPATIBLE TYPES.

@bingohume7013

Жыл бұрын

I have 6 of these intelligent battery charger devices. I bought these during the late 1990’s for something like $2.00 each at an electronic discount store. The trick was to recharge and to top off these alkaline batteries before it gets heavily drained based on the instructions and it worked. I stopped using them when I bought Eneloop NMH batteries. After that I’ve never looked back.

@tookitogo

Жыл бұрын

Bear in mind that a NiCd charger will overcharge NiMH cells, reducing their overall lifespan. A good modern NiMH charger will get the most out of your batteries. (Proper NiCd and NiMH charging work on the same principle: once the battery is full, the excess energy being pumped in turns to heat and the battery heats up, which in turn causes the voltage to drop. So the charger looks for the peak voltage, and once it starts to go down, it ends. However, in NiCd, the voltage drop is much larger than in NiMH. By the time a NiMH cell’s voltage drops to the point a NiCd charger can detect it, the battery has been significantly overcharged. Many old “intelligent” chargers actually weren’t that smart. What you want is a modern one with “-dV/dT” charging.)

Putting those energizers and duracell under the sun is still the best way to recharge. -every kids in the 90s

thx again Marketplace very good job. very helpful information

I use great value AA’s and Panasonic from dollar tree they all work great I was very surprised by the Walmart AA’s they were a-lot better than I thought they would be

Thanks for doing this. A great video. KZread suggested this quickly. Only 18 minutes since it was posted. 🙂 Interesting end and unfortunate that they send them to Michigan when we have a recycling company in Canada doing in.

@changeshifter4852

2 жыл бұрын

This. I think someone has a sales call to make on Monday morning 😉

Thank you! Very interesting to compare standard alkaline, the old fashion one, to the hype of 'new ' batteries. What about rechargeable batteries? How are batteries recycled?

I've been using Duracell batteries for 40yrs👍

Great look at batteries. All I use are rechargeables these days and avoid disposable batts when I can.

I’ve had these questions as a little kid. Glad I got many of them answered. Great content. Thank you for sharing

bounce test means they are heavily past their prime which is a quick way to determine if it is a new or used one.

The e circuit says for low drain device. So they are being COMPLETELY honest on their packaging

Battery tests are interesting and very complex, due to various circumstances. I will list a few of them: 1. Time from production to sale. 2. Transport method. 3. Storage with the seller before sale. 3. The cost of importing a foreign brand into the country should be deducted when comparing prices, so that the value of the energy in the battery is visible in relation to the production price. 4. Practical methods in everyday life is different from a laboratory test of a single battery. Few electronic devices use only one AA battery. 5. So the test should be extended to 2-4 batteries in series and parallel connection. 6. Testing the same old batteries at 3 intervals, 1 month after production, 6 months and 12 months, to see the quality of the electrolytes in relation to the elapsed time. This, in my opinion, would give us realistic data on the quality of the products.

As far as long lasting, I have to put into my Blink Cameras, Lithiums. All alkalines don't seem to last near as long, like maybe 1/2 as long. So test of Lithiums would be awesome to see how well they perform. Also a bit of graphing like how they lose their power over the time they are being used, and if there is any recovery time after they have been in use. Rechargeable batteries would be good to see too. Not that I expect them to last very long, but a better range of usage.

I used double AA eveready on my CD player back in the day. One CD and it was done. 😄

@monkeyboy7969

2 жыл бұрын

What is this a Progressive Insurance commercial?

Do rechargeable batteries next.

@LAMNguyen-sd8mo

Жыл бұрын

Agree

Most people do not realize that alkaline batteries are rechargeable for about 10 times. However, a special charger is required called a period pole reversal charger with special pukse output which applies a load then a charge pulse which is around 10 x tge discharge pulse current. I designed one back in the early 90s & used it for years & the design is very simple.

I use carbon/zinc in wall clocks and TV remotes, and rechargeables in everything else. When it comes to flashlights, 18650 Li-ion is the _only_ choice.

@OlJackBurton

Жыл бұрын

Wall clocks have more constant drain than a low use remote (besides the main TV). I remember an alkaline lasted nearly 10 years before it started leaking (still powered the clock and didn't damage it). It lasted well past its shelf life/storage date. A carbon/zinc would last maybe a year or two maybe before the clock wouldn't keep the proper time anymore...

It's a sad state of affairs when this stuff isn't taught by parents or the schools, but you have to rely on a tv news show to get a clue about this.

@kylereese4822

2 жыл бұрын

Yea I learnt about this stuff when I was about 7-8 years old my granddad taught me :):)

Been using rechargable Japanese Eneloops and IKEA Laddas along with a smart charger for years now. Will never go back. They also have a long storage life so they won't be empty in a few months when not used unlike cheaper alternatives. Better for your pocket. Better for the environment. A win-win in my book

My father owned a store when the eco-fee was first introduced. The government sent an information packet to his store that directly stated that any business that referred to the eco-fee as a tax would be sued. The Liberal government at the time had promised not to introduce any new taxes, so the eco-fee couldn't be a 'tax' if they wanted to technically keep their promise.

Anybody remember those toys that used like 20 batteries and only lasted like 2 hours? Or C and D batteries?

@Gransonec

2 жыл бұрын

I remember, when I was in high school, in the late 80's, I had a combo tv, radio, dual cassette "portable" stereo that required something like 10 D batteries. It stayed plugged into the wall, because it was as hard on batteries as Donald Trump is on the McDonald's menu.

@Rakerong

2 жыл бұрын

I used to be mad that the Game Gear used 6x AA batteries lol. We had a hard enough time keeping 4x on hand for the Gameboy.

i have always used dollar tree batteries. they are the best bang for ya buck. never had a problem with them.

@baneverything5580

2 жыл бұрын

Heavy Duty batteries can destroy certain sensitive electronics due to high initial voltage. The only sane option is rechargeable batteries. Minimal cost for up to 1200 or more uses depending on brand. With a USB battery charger and a folding solar panel your days of buying batteries are over, even off grid. I won`t be spending over 20 dollars per day to power a fan after hurricanes again. I now use a USB fan, folding solar panels, and USB power banks. My radios and flashlights will be using similar rechargeable options. Larger portable rechargeable power stations will be powering my freezers, small fridge, lights, WIFI, 12 volt cookers, and storing backup energy. A gas generator will be used for backup and powering a small air conditioner to cool my camper trailer in the evening, since solar power for that is far too expensive to even think about on my SS income.

@douglaswindsor120

2 жыл бұрын

I too have a 12 volt cookers and I also have a 12 volt coffee machine both over heat and melt axillary power plugs and blow 10 amp fuses the only way to to use them is with a cigarette lighter plug and a 15 amp fuse

Most people don’t know it, but batteries are the highest margin product at the grocery store. Alkaline and Lithium batteries are really expensive. As a result, people try to save money by purchasing rechargeable batteries. But in the long run, they aren’t that great. Recharging batteries is a hassle. To avoid these problems, a company could make conductor batteries. A conductor battery isn’t even a battery. It’s just an empty tube which is the same size and shape as a battery. It has a tiny line-in plug. So if your device uses four double A batteries, you would put the four conductor batteries into your device, and then plug-in the power supply Jack which has a selector switch: 1.5 V - 3.0 V - 4.5 V - 6.0 V. This would convert a D/C device to an A/C device. It wouldn’t be portable, but for stuff that gets used only at home, it might work.

I think this was a great and very informative test, thank you! I’m pretty sure I won’t be buying those EXPENSIVE name brands again. Have you done any testing for the other size batteries? C, D etc? Thanks again

Carbon zinc does not leak, and that’s more important for a remote controller

@MrsZambezi

2 жыл бұрын

I remember that they do leak. The Ever Ready ones used to.

When you use a meter you have to use a resister in parallel because of load effect. They are not doing it right.

Lots of manufacturers talk about Storing products in a cool place but they maybe don't realise that on sunny days, the heat inside a shipping container or delivery trucks can reach 2/3x higher than the outside temp. This will be an issue if products are in transit for a long time.

Bought Duracell batteries on sale at Costco in bulk of course and it was cheaper slightly per battery. My kids use alot so i buy the Dollarama usually. Lots of them too, they are great

Over 60 years ago, my grandfather used to store new single use dry cell batteries in the freezer. Said they'd stay like new for years. Thaw out and put in service. That was back in the zinc/carbon days before all the newer chemistry. I don't know if Alkalines would still behave like that.

@hyssean12

2 жыл бұрын

Lol my grandma kept em in the fridge.

@miscbits6399

Жыл бұрын

They do and it's still a valid storage method

GREAT CONTENT! Please continue providing these valuable product tests!

Wouldn't it be nice if someone required the manufacturers to post the ma-hr rating on disposable batteries? Consumers could then purchase batteries on a cost per unit energy (milliamp-hour). Of course, the big battery manufacturers would vigorously oppose (and lobby against) any such regulation. (Rechargeable batteries have had the ratings for years.)

@tookitogo

Жыл бұрын

You can sometimes find the information online if you search hard enough. It’ll almost always be on the battery manufacturers’ “industrial” battery website, not the consumer website.

Battery leaks can be cleaned up with a baking soda paste. This applies to alkaline and carbon zinc as well as other chemistries

@ExperimentalFun

Жыл бұрын

acid battery leaks can be neutralized with baking soda which is an alkaline substance, acid and alkaline are opposites on the PH scale, you want to neutralize the liquid with its opposite PH, If you have an alkaline battery leak you want to use something acidic to neutralize it, like lemon juice or vinegar

@miscbits6399

Жыл бұрын

@@ExperimentalFun the baking soda paste advice for alkaline leaks came from Gillette - the owners of Duracell. My experience is that it cleans up battery compartments and most importantly removes virtually all corrosion off battery contacts/circuit boards, so whilst you might intuitively think it won't work, they're giving out that advice for a reason

@ExperimentalFun

Жыл бұрын

@@miscbits6399 its not that I think it wont clean it, its that the alkaline liquid can burn skin just like acid does, they are 2 ends of the PH spectrum, you want to neutralize them and balance the PH first, the liquid in them is normally potassium hydroxide, the way you neutralize it is with vinegar or lemon juice, and with acid batteries baking soda will neutralize the acid, after you neutralize it, then you can use whatever you want to clean it. if its a little leak that is dried up then it wont be a big deal either way but if a lot of liquid you definitely should neutralize it first.

@miscbits6399

Жыл бұрын

@@ExperimentalFun alkaline battery leaks are almost never more than small ooze/paste. It's not like a lead acid cell, they only have a tiny amount of electrolyte in them

I've been doing this for a long time, and there is clearly a huge difference with actual good batteries

@realSamAndrew

2 жыл бұрын

Clearly and huge, but you're not very clear and you don't specify how huge or in what way.

@4seeableTV

2 жыл бұрын

@@realSamAndrew I'm assuming he means the different types of batteries, not so much the brands. As seen in this video, alkaline batteries are clearly superior to carbon zinc. Why the latter is still being sold is beyond me.

@realSamAndrew

2 жыл бұрын

@@4seeableTV well, you're guessing since he hasn't said. But when one makes a sensational claim, one should back it up with evidence and details.

@Ausf

2 жыл бұрын

There's a big difference between zinc and alkaline, but the difference between expensive alkaline and cheap alkaline is minimal.

@ShawnJonesHellion

2 жыл бұрын

rechargeable prices wipe everything off the map that isnt a tv remote

A flashlight is one of the most demanding jobs for a battery... calling it a low drain device is far past nonsense!

@worldchangingvideos6253

2 жыл бұрын

Unless LED perhaps

@miscbits6399

Жыл бұрын

It's high drain very occasional use. In most cases the batteries leak long before they're even partially discharged

Best ones here in Scotland I have found are ones from our Pound (Dollar) Stores and they are branded Kodak. Next best are Ikeas. Dirt cheap and last much longer than the branded ones for sure. The pound shop sell those naff Zinc ones at £1 for 20! vs £5 for 20 of the alkaline ones. See so many people picking up the Zinc ones thinking they are getting a bargain.

Project farm did an excellent study on this

see i work at dollarama and im always telling people the alkaline batteries are the better option between the two options we have. ive been seeing energizer batteries come in lately.

@kylereese4822

2 жыл бұрын

Reachable and the higher the mAh the better :):)

After a couple years of testing I now use Amazon basics AA and AAA. One day I always realized that I was constantly replacing batteries so I decided to switch to Energizer Lithium to get better value. I found that the results were no better than any other brand. Amazon's batteries do the same job for less

@alpoulin1

2 жыл бұрын

The ultimate lithiums will greatly outperform alkakines in very high drain devices (digital camera using flash) but will only be slightly better in others such as flashliggts. The lithiums will do much better in cold weather (trail cams in the winter for example) and lithiums will not leak.

@Veritas-invenitur

2 жыл бұрын

@@alpoulin1 In my experience the Energizer Ultimate Lithium outperforms everything on the market regardless of use case. However, they are very expensive. Perhaps even the most expensive.

@alpoulin1

2 жыл бұрын

@@Veritas-invenitur Yes, the Ulitimate lithiums do indeed outperform alkalines in most applications, but in electronics that are not high drain, the difference is much less noticeable and not usually worth the extra money, in my opinion. In a digital camera, 100% yes. The quick flash recharge is very taxing and alkalines take long to recover while lithiums are laughing. In most flashlights however (for example), the extra performance you'll get is generally not worth the price difference I find (especially is you find cheap alkalines, which is often the case). Same thing in clocks or remote controls, I wouldn't pay the premium price foir lithiums in these. That said, during my last trip to Disney World, I packed 4 ultimate lithium AAs for a 10 day trip and got over 1000 shots with a single pair (mostly daylight, but still). The higher voltage in the lithiums can also be either a blessing or a curse if the electronics can't handle it - mostly if multiple batteries are used in a given electronic. I love the lithiums, but will only use them for specific power hungry applications and / or in really cold weather, personally.

@Veritas-invenitur

2 жыл бұрын

@@alpoulin1 Very well said and exceptionally thorough.

@alpoulin1

2 жыл бұрын

@@asificam1 Both NIMH and the lithium disposables mainting a constant voltage for most of their lives (1.2-1.3V for NIMH, and 1.4-1.6V for lithium), while alklalines decline in performance steadily while taking much more time to recover after a flash. The ultimate lithiums actually start out around 1.7V, which some electronics may not like. I've been satisfied with the performance of NIMH in most applications, especially with a fresh top-up charge just before use. I've been able to charge the lower capacity ones well over 1000 times in the last 5 years (both my daughters have battery powered nightlights in their rooms that I charge ever few days). In my experiece, lithiums do best in really cold weather, followed by NIMH and alkalines last as the cold slows down the internal chemical reaction that produces the power. I've actually got quite a collection of rechargeables in my possession. It is impressive and almost embarassing, but I love testing and comparing and do have a camp in the woods where everything is battery powered once the generator is off..My wife also runs a daycare and myself a DJ service. We use a good amount of batteries...

The best AA & AAA batteries I have ever used were the Everactive batteries that Walmart sold until about 7 years ago. I recommended them to a number of people and when I would go to Walmart to get batteries they were gone because lots of people were buying them. They realized they were great batteries.

@shorty808100

Жыл бұрын

The best batteries on the market actually comes from harbor fright there the blue ones not the yellow ones can’t remember there name it’s lightning something, great value are good though that’s what I’m using atm in my KB, mouse and ps3 guitars

Anyone else notice at 7:50 the table leg in the marketplace room where he was doing the zoom interview was about to fall off / over? Lolllllsss 😂

*_WOW! I buy batteries from those dollars stores all the time but I never looked at the type of battery I just buy the cheapest one. Now I know if it uses c-zine don't get it. Alkaline all the way. Thank You for all your effort for the greater good._*

@yannisgk

Жыл бұрын

also try energizer lithiums!!!da bezt!!!