Testing a Hebrew Roots teaching on Acts 15

119 Ministries put out a video on this topic (link below) and asked their viewers to test their teaching. So I did. I have a feeling that some folks will not be happy with what I found.
Acts 15:1-29 is where we read about the Jerusalem Council. Paul, James, and the apostles and elders convened in Jerusalem around AD 50 to discuss what should be required of the new Gentile believers. Were the Gentiles instructed to keep the Law of Moses as a matter of salvation? Were they instructed to keep the Law as a matter of obedience? Or something else?
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NOTES
I wanted to keep my video on point, so I left out a few other issues where I disagree with this 119 Ministries video:
1.) Acts 15:1 says, "But some men came down from Judea and were teaching the brothers, 'Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved.'" 119 Ministries teaches these men were from the Circumcision Party. I agree with that assumption. However, 119 goes a step further and describes these men as "unbelievers." That doesn't make sense for a couple reasons: (a.) That would mean that non-believing Jews were teaching believing Gentiles they need to be circumcised. Which would only make sense if those non-believing Jews were trying to get Gentiles to denounce Yeshua and convert to Judaism. But there is nothing in this chapter that suggests that was the case. In fact, the context of Acts 15 is entirely inconsistent with that scenario. (b.) The other passages in the NT where the Circumcision Party is mentioned-Acts 11:2, Gal 2:12, Titus 1;10-indicate they were a sect of Jewish Believers in Yeshua who taught that circumcision was required. (c.) In Acts 15:24, those who were teaching that circumcision is required are referred to as people who "have gone out from us"-"us" referring to the church in Jerusalem-indicating that they were, in fact, believers.
2.) The letter written by the council says, "Since we have heard that some persons have gone out from us and troubled you with words, unsettling your minds, although we gave them no instructions" (Acts 15:24). This is further evidence that the Jerusalem Council was not hearing a debate between "two different groups with two different doctrines," as the 119 Ministries video claims. The letter refers only to one group of people troubling the Gentiles with their words.
3.) In Acts 15:10, Peter says, "Now, therefore, why are you putting God to the test by placing a yoke on the neck of the disciples that neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear?" What yoke is Peter talking about? It was the burden of the Law's rigorous demands, something sinful humanity was unable to keep. The entire Old Testament is a case study in how poorly God's people had done up to that point in keeping His Law.

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  • @lindarobey8935
    @lindarobey89352 ай бұрын

    Excellent teaching! I am a born again Christian and an ethnic Jew (born again in March of 1974). I was advised to join a Messianic Jewish congregation by the Messianic Jewish community in Denver, CO ... the purpose being to "identify" with other Messianic Jews. I joined a Messianic Jewish congregation and remained there for almost 10 years. This congregation was 80% Gentiles (who tried to be "Jews") and 20% Jews, which surprised me. This was a Torah observant (into Torahism) congregation. After leaving the Messianic congregation, I attended "many flavors" of Baptist churches....I found out from one IFB pastor that there were around 250 "sects" of Baptists. 😳 Torahism is not only found in Messianic congregations, but also in today's churches.

  • @rmvicary4215
    @rmvicary4215 Жыл бұрын

    Thank God! Were we saved by keeping the law or by faith? Is Christ our rest? Yes He is!

  • @WeThePeople9069
    @WeThePeople90693 ай бұрын

    I love it when the bible speaks for itself 🙏 many don't see that Acts is a transitional book

  • @SLSwank
    @SLSwank Жыл бұрын

    Your teaching has been so helpful for my family. My husband and I were in the HRM for 10 years. We started seeing problems with our beliefs a couple of years ago, but this fall we decided to begin making changes. I’m so thankful for the work you are doing!

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Shaina! I'm so glad that you've found our work helpful. God is good! Blessings, Rob

  • @walkinginthegodgiven-jerem5502

    @walkinginthegodgiven-jerem5502

    Жыл бұрын

    Anyone will find problems with every religion that they join when Jesus Christ is not the one discipline them. It’s very important never to allow man to be your mediator. We only have one Pastor one Shepherd, and his name is Yeshuwah. Ezekiel 36:26 says that God will give us a new heart, and he will put his Holy Spirit in us, and then he will move us, and compel us, and cause us to walk in his commandments, and his statutes and his judgments. Matthew 5:17-19 is as clear as anything could ever be the mission of Jesus Christ. No one gets a new heart and receive the Holy Spirit and no one enters the kingdom of heaven, until they have been baptized and full of the Holy Spirit in the new covenant. Therefore we must become a disciple of Jesus, and sit at his feet, studying the commandments and walking them out as he convicts, and as he leads. Never choose to follow Torah and the Hebrew roots movements to satisfy a culture separate from the workings of the Holy Spirit. I pray this helps whoever reads this.

  • @kennethgibbs2503

    @kennethgibbs2503

    7 ай бұрын

    What do you do with these verses? “And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.” ‭‭1 John‬ ‭2‬:‭3‬-‭6‬ ‭KJV‬‬ “If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.” ‭‭John‬ ‭15‬:‭10‬ ‭KJV‬‬ “Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.” ‭‭Revelation‬ ‭14‬:‭12‬ ‭KJV‬‬ “If ye love me, keep my commandments.” ‭‭John‬ ‭14‬:‭15 ‭KJV‬‬

  • @biblischerMinnegesang888

    @biblischerMinnegesang888

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@kennethgibbs2503 The answer to 1. John 2, 3 -6 is to find in 1. John 3, verses 22 - 24: "And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do the things tjat are pleasing in His sight. 23 This is His commandment, THAT WE BELIEVE IN THE NAME OF HIS SON JESUS CHRIST, AND LOVE ONE ANOTHER, JUST AS HE COMMANDED US." It"s HIS WORK not ours. Read also Revelation 2:26: He who overcomes, and he who keep MY DEEDS until the end, to him I will give authority over the nations." And how do we overvome? By the blood of the lamb and through the word of their martyr.

  • @judereggievelez7467

    @judereggievelez7467

    4 ай бұрын

    @@kennethgibbs2503 whenever John (the author of all the verses you cited) talked about the Law, he used the Greek word Nomos. The “commandments” in those verses use the Greek word Entole. Do not conflate the two. We are saved by faith; not by obedience to the Law which is works-based.

  • @sharonlouise9759
    @sharonlouise97599 ай бұрын

    Awesome, awesome, awesome!!! I waited for your teaching concerning why the letter contained those instructions for the Gentiles. I rejoiced, "yes, yes, yes"! This has always been my understanding because it not only fits the context it fits how Paul talked about holding back on our liberty so we wouldn't stumble a brother! I see that thousands have watched this and I pray that it will bear fruit for Jesus!!!

  • @donthephoneman7084
    @donthephoneman7084 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you again. Your blessing so many people, who need to hear you. HALLELUYAH!

  • @pastorernestalbuquerque4770
    @pastorernestalbuquerque477011 ай бұрын

    Thanks so much Dr Solberg for excellent video. HRM is a slow but sure deviant and deceptive theology. Really blessed by your sharing. God bless.

  • @peterhook2258
    @peterhook22589 ай бұрын

    Dude, your doing it. Giving the glory to Yeshua. I have recently started watching One For Zion and appreciating the treasure of knowledge saved by literal Israel in the Torah and the Kabbalah and learning to celebrate the feasts, symbols food...but I am still a gentile (adopted yet not literal) and I really value Christ mediating yet not abolishing or demanding undoable exactness(the curse). The value of the NT is fully expressed regarding our Saviour's gospel that he gives to us. Thanks! side note..I also believe the BOM is scripture. Peace! I was struggling with the Torahism that you teach about, so glad for your service. Freedom to learn is the key in avoiding cult traps..freedom to learn!

  • @allansabol4820
    @allansabol4820 Жыл бұрын

    I'm so thankful for your ministry brother Rob! Bless ya heaps!

  • @rapturequeen76
    @rapturequeen76 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent and clear as always ty brother Rob super helpful! I especially like “the law is our guide and guardian” from Gal. 3:23-26!! 👍🏻RIGHT ON!

  • @elyavbannoura9105
    @elyavbannoura91053 жыл бұрын

    You build and defend an excellent biblical case. The world needs to hear these sorts of sound teachings. Well done!

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Elyob!

  • @B_Trott
    @B_Trott3 жыл бұрын

    I’m addressing these issues as I teach expositionally through Galatians. It helps stiffen my confidence that I understand the Jewish context when I hear precious Jewish brothers like you providing the same interpretations. Thank you!

  • @charitybrook6279

    @charitybrook6279

    Жыл бұрын

    He actually is a gentile self proclaimed so it's not quite the perspective you think, you should look into actual Jewish people and what they think about the new testament.

  • @Lotterywinnerify

    @Lotterywinnerify

    5 ай бұрын

    Why should I care what Jewish people think about the New Testament?

  • @CrystalJ7
    @CrystalJ73 жыл бұрын

    Enjoyed that VERY much. Looking forward to getting your book!! :-)

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Crystal!

  • @DMTXXDMT
    @DMTXXDMT Жыл бұрын

    So glad I found this channel

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    Жыл бұрын

    Me, too, Major! Shalom, Rob

  • @musicinspire1745
    @musicinspire1745 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the insights.

  • @XwynntopiaX
    @XwynntopiaX2 жыл бұрын

    As usual, an excellent teaching with thoroughness and clarity. You need to become a professor! The way you lay it all out and explain it is perfect. There are no stumbling blocks in your presentation. Great job!

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Winnie! I actually am a professor of theology at a small college here in Nashville. Blessings, Rob

  • @davidbermudez7704
    @davidbermudez77042 жыл бұрын

    God bless you thank you 😊 for equipping us

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, David! Blessings, Rob

  • @PimpGanstaPoet
    @PimpGanstaPoet3 жыл бұрын

    Excellent content. Well presented.

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're very kind! Shalom.

  • @irvinquijano
    @irvinquijano Жыл бұрын

    I'm gonna listen and watch all your videos 1 by one carefully and take notes. I also just bought your awesome book. Dang I wanna learn so much from you. I want to be ready to pull those ppl I love out of this hrm

  • @JoshJorg44
    @JoshJorg442 жыл бұрын

    it only makes common sense that there would be a gradual approach to learning the ways of God. no Gentile who doesnt know scripture would be expected to immediately retain all commands perfectly from day 1. if the 4 commands given in Acts 15 were the only guidelines for Gentile believers to live by, then that would leave a lot out. even basic commands like not killing or honoring your parents, and loving God with your whole heart are left out here. this cant be an exhaustive list. this was not addressing what abedience looked like. it was only addressing what to ask of new converts. it makes perfect sense that as part of their new faith that they would be asked to put away their idolatry and sexual immortality. I believe John is pretty much spot on in his interpretation.

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Jacob! If that's the case, why do you suppose that two very easy to keep and understand commands, which were far more critical identity markers for the Jewish people, we're not required of the Gentiles: keeping Sabbath and eating kosher? And why do you suppose the letter said they were giving Gentile believers "no greater burden than these" four restrictions (15:28). What do you think they meant by "no greater burden"? Rob

  • @JoshJorg44

    @JoshJorg44

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheBiblicalRoots i think the debate and decision was pver what burden to place on new believers that had just placed their faith in Messiah. when you look at Acts 15 as well as Galatians, we can see a group of Pharisees that were placing undo burdens on new converts and I believe this was a different Gospel because it was all driven by what they did in the flesh. so it appears when they told these new converts 4 things. to me these are obvious major sins that needed to be put away to be able to enter into the body and to even gather with other believers. I do think this is why they said the reading of Moses would be read in the synagogues. because these new converts would be discipled week by week. no one is discipled in one day, and greater and greater understanding on God and his ways would be learned in weekly gatherings. this doesnt mean they would keep holding on to major sins and immortality as the putting away of these was absolutely necessary to call Yeshua or Jesus Lord and to be born of the spirit. obedience is required for salvation and here is why. its not that it saves us as we know we are covered by the blood, but if we live in rebellion then we are denying the one who bought us and therefore he will also deny us as per scripture. so its the ones who are led by the spirit who are children of God and those led by the spirit of God are born again as is required to enter the kingdom of heaven. so no child born of the spirit can not obey ortherwise he would not be led by the spirit. with all this bring said, our obedience is still filthy rags before him compared with the character of Messiah

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@JoshJorg44 Hi, Jacob. The difficulty with your interpretation is that it's not supported anywhere in scripture. There is no evidence anywhere that Gentile believers were discipled in the Law of Moses, or were expected to keep it, or ever _did_ keep it. You might find my video *Why were only four restrictions given in Acts 15?* interesting: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dXh30dmLhLKtepc.html Shalom, Rob

  • @charitybrook6279

    @charitybrook6279

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheBiblicalRoots that isn't true... The Gentile believers in acts repeatedly asked the disciples to teach them in the synagogues on the Sabbath... Pretty sure it was the law and the prophets that were taught also in the synagogues on the Sabbath. Therefore the Gentile believers would be learning these things over time.

  • @charitybrook6279

    @charitybrook6279

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JoshJorg44 you are absolutely right!

  • @peteholms9298
    @peteholms92982 жыл бұрын

    Luk 1:6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.

  • @biblischerMinnegesang888
    @biblischerMinnegesang8886 ай бұрын

    Amen!

  • @tabasco7915
    @tabasco7915 Жыл бұрын

    Great stuff brother!

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    Жыл бұрын

    Appreciate it, Tabasco! RLS

  • @irvinquijano
    @irvinquijano Жыл бұрын

    Woooow i absolutely love the white board explanation. Love it. It is so easy to understand

  • @joshuachurch4380
    @joshuachurch43808 ай бұрын

    2 Corinthians 7 1 Romans 1 5 Romans 6 17 Romans 15 18 Romans 16 26 1 Corinthians 5 8 James 1 25 Hebrews 8 4 All of scripture is breathed by Elohim....All Mankind does not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of Elohim.....every word Amen and Amen Praaaise Yah 🙏 🙏 🙏

  • @wakeywakey8603
    @wakeywakey8603 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your tireless efforts to rightly divide the Word of God. We're instructed to rightly divide The Word. It's already divided between Old Testament & New Testament. I looked up Strong's Concordance for the Greek word Testament. And found that the meaning is Testament, Will & Covenant. So i believe we must correctly understand Old Covenant versus New Covenant

  • @basileianministries
    @basileianministries2 жыл бұрын

    Just curious what is the new covenant about? You said Jeremiah 31 speaks of it. But you didnt read it. 31. "Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah, 32. not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, my covenant that they broke, though I was their husband, declares the Lord. 33. For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 34. And no longer shall each one teach his neighbor and each his brother, saying, 'Know the Lord,' for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest, declares the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more." Jeremiah 31:31-34 ESV There is only one law

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hey, Joshua! Thanks for watching the video and for posting Jeremiah 31:31-34.

  • @rileywshay
    @rileywshay3 жыл бұрын

    Great content, once again. I appreciate the clear and concise interpretation of scripture and the sound logic used in all your videos. Thank you, Rob!!

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Riley!

  • @kennethgibbs2503

    @kennethgibbs2503

    7 ай бұрын

    What do you do with these verses? “And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.” ‭‭1 John‬ ‭2‬:‭3‬-‭6‬ ‭KJV‬‬ “If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.” ‭‭John‬ ‭15‬:‭10‬ ‭KJV‬‬ “Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.” ‭‭Revelation‬ ‭14‬:‭12‬ ‭KJV‬‬ “If ye love me, keep my commandments.” ‭‭John‬ ‭14‬:‭15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

  • @budcurtis4512
    @budcurtis45127 ай бұрын

    Acts 21:20 shows that many years later the four restrictions were still the only things the council expected of Gentile Christians.

  • @jamestom2510
    @jamestom25105 ай бұрын

    Well Said. The New Michael Heiser !

  • @Pverb623
    @Pverb623 Жыл бұрын

    And this is a sophism…….obedience is Salvation……..Salvation is obedience! Obedience takes humility, Salvation takes obedience, the way to salvation is the way of humility, which is by the means of obedience!

  • @deespence8629
    @deespence8629 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for continuing to speak about this movement! I fear my brother is being swayed by these people! We’ve discussed it at length and he still feels he should keep the sabbath! I’ve been sending him your videos! ❤️🙏✝️

  • @charitybrook6279

    @charitybrook6279

    Жыл бұрын

    Why are you persecuting your brother for keeping the Sabbath to the Lord?

  • @deespence8629

    @deespence8629

    Жыл бұрын

    @@charitybrook6279 I’m not. I just want him to understand that he can worship The Lord any day he chooses- not because someone tells him he has to. Read the letter to Galatians- that should help

  • @charitybrook6279

    @charitybrook6279

    Жыл бұрын

    @@deespence8629 I agree we can and should worship the Lord any and everyday. Sunday in church, December 25th, all belong to the Lord. Paul also tells us that all things are permitted but not all things are beneficial. So I don't do the Santa stuff. We will enter our final rest in Christ when we receive our new bodies, but Hebrews chapter 4 says that there remains a 7th day Sabbath day rest for God's people. And it is a sign between us and God. God knows that our bodies grow tired on this earth, and so Sabbath was made for man not man for the Sabbath. We need a day of rest, and God has given us one. We should be careful to enter it! As Hebrews 4 says, we have a High Priest in Jesus who can sympathize with our weaknesses and He gives us grace for where we fall short, but because we love Him we should make every effort to keep His commandments! I love Galatians! Paul was right to address that we should #1 never think that our works count in any way for salvation and #2 not make doctrines of man, doctrines of God.

  • @charitybrook6279

    @charitybrook6279

    Жыл бұрын

    It's also important to remember that Galatians was not written in a vacuum. It must harmonize with the rest of the text. In my worldview Galatians harmonizes well with James and Acts and the rest of the Bible. But in my previous worldview of believing that Paul taught against the law, I made all of these men liars... Paul was put on trial for the very thing I thought he was doing and denied it. I also always had a hard time understanding Paul because he seems to contradict Himself constantly. I have now realized that Paul didn't contradict Himself, but as Peter said, his letters must be read very carefully so that we do not fall into the error of lawlessness. 2 Peter 3:14-18 So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction. Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position. But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen.

  • @deespence8629

    @deespence8629

    Жыл бұрын

    @@charitybrook6279 I agree- read also acts15 what does it say as far as what is expected from gentiles? The covenant made with the ancient Israelites was for the Israelites! To set them apart. I am a gentile- saved by grace. All things are lawful for me- not all things are profitable…. 1corinthians 10:23-33 I could go on but won’t. What I don’t agree with is this- if you add anything to the cross and what Christ did on it, then you are works based salvation.

  • @endtimesnowwithjohnnybargo3028
    @endtimesnowwithjohnnybargo30282 жыл бұрын

    119 says it's not for salvation but they go on to say that if you don't keep it that makes you lawless and no lawless person will inherit eternal life

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exactly, Johnny! Thanks. ~Rob

  • @endtimesnowwithjohnnybargo3028

    @endtimesnowwithjohnnybargo3028

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheBiblicalRoots I do apologetics against Hebrew roots as well but mainly on Facebook.. going to start doing it in my KZread.. maybe we could discuss something's sometime?

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@endtimesnowwithjohnnybargo3028 That would be great! You can contact me through my website at www.RLSolberg.com and I'll get back to you.

  • @OneSparrow-76
    @OneSparrow-762 жыл бұрын

    I have been praying for a clear concise understanding of this debate…this teaching set me free from the “what if’s” that come from HRM, arguments that have been pounded in my brain. It addressed all the arguments I had/have against this movement and gives me strength to keep fighting the Good fight of Faith and most importantly that I know these points you made, truly line up with scripture. Thank you for sharing this message!

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    2 жыл бұрын

    I love hearing my video helped, Ida. Thank you!

  • @tweet2able
    @tweet2able3 жыл бұрын

    you are WOW! I learned a lot, that's real.

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Priscilla!

  • @tweet2able

    @tweet2able

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheBiblicalRoots Hi, my name is Priscila single L, if double L it's not me he he he. Thank you for all your effort to really know GOD. Thank you for your effort to inform the public of OUR LORD YESHUA. He is indeed the Son of GOD. Our GOD I believe will bless the true believers, WE the born again.

  • @tweet2able

    @tweet2able

    3 жыл бұрын

    By the way, it was YESHUA who told us WE need to be born again, because all of US came from different religion. What Paul says might be edited because Christ/Christus came from the Romans, Messiah is the english translation of what the anointed savior being waited by the Isralites. May be I am wrong but come to think of it, who gave the name? Who to believe, the origin or the copier who is known for substituting their gods/people as OUR GOD? Sorry if I may sound mayabang, I did not intend to be like it. Just thinking we might be praying to the wrong name or using the wrong name. I got this from Google -----> In Latin the word Jesus means Earth-Pig. The etymology of the word Jesus comes from the Latin and so Jesus means means Earth Pig. Je = Ge= Earth and Sus = Pig therefore Jesus = Earth-Pig.30 Mar 2018.

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tweet2able Wow, I’ve not heard that one before. A quick look at Google translate will tell you that there are no Latin words for “earth” that are anything like “je.” You can’t trust everything you read on the Internet, that’s for sure.

  • @peteholms9298
    @peteholms92982 жыл бұрын

    my understanding of this is they were discussing the ESSENTIALS. they pulled 4 commandments out of torah, that are essential to start off with. Then they will learn more on saturday shabbot Act 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi, Pete. Wouldn't you agree that Sabbath and the kosher food laws would be on a list of essentials? I don't see anything in the text or the context that suggests the idea of a "starter pack" of essentials and that the Gentiles would later learn the rest. Verse 21 certainly doesn't say that. Where are you getting that idea?

  • @tactup23
    @tactup23 Жыл бұрын

    I think the if we consider the larger context, we can see the issue that first century Jews were contending with. It was the introduction of a “New idea” called supernatural heaven through supernatural salvation. Ancient people saw the term salvation as applying here on earth as a result of righteousness according to God’s law and through faith in God. In our time 2022 people see salvation only meaning rapture to another supernatural dimension as a result of mankind’s sin through faith in a man called Jesus. 1st century folks were caught between these two ideologies which were sharing the same terminology. The implications were demonstratively different yet surprisingly similar.

  • @newyoutube3114
    @newyoutube3114 Жыл бұрын

    What is growing and becoming more mature in our faith? How is this measured or determined

  • @quesostuff1009

    @quesostuff1009

    25 күн бұрын

    Hopefully drawing closer and closer to God?

  • @suzanholland
    @suzanholland3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you are addressing this. I do have a question for you, but will listen to two more of your videos first to see if you perhaps answer in one of those.

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Suzan! Feel free to ask your question here if you'd like.

  • @suzanholland

    @suzanholland

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheBiblicalRoots appreciate it! (I keep getting interrupted here while watching this one, but will go straight to the two I have added to my watch list immediately following and then would love to comment.) appreciate the reply. Grace and peace

  • @suzanholland

    @suzanholland

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheBiblicalRoots just sent you a quick email. Please lmk your preference. thank you

  • @tiffanyhorvath7720
    @tiffanyhorvath7720 Жыл бұрын

    Torah teachers say that you have to be spiritually circumcised is this true?

  • @earlsmith2862
    @earlsmith28622 жыл бұрын

    Thank you brother solberg, could you address the issue I recently heard discussed, Communion replaces the Passover feast and should be carried out on the Sabbath once a year.

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Earl! I can see a connection between communion (the Lord's Supper) and Passover. The feast of Passover and Jesus' last supper are linked in Scripture, and Christ is referred to as our Passover lamb in 1 Corinthians 5:7. But I'm not aware of any biblical reason that communion should be carried out on the Sabbath once a year.

  • @earlsmith2862

    @earlsmith2862

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheBiblicalRoots thank you for your response, I may have to go back and listen to some of the arguments that were presented, but I think the person was trying to present that Passover is still the same, but it has just changed in meaning, in other words we still carry out eating roasted lamb ect....

  • @jnastally196

    @jnastally196

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheBiblicalRoots If I were making that argument I'd say that the Bible says "as oft as ye do this do in remembrance of me." How "oft" did they do what Jesus presented? It was once a year on Passover. It doesn't say daily, weekly, monthly. There is already a context there. The "as oft" is Passover.

  • @straitmind4762
    @straitmind4762 Жыл бұрын

    Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of ANY THING that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth (Exodus 20:3,4).

  • @dsmoosecountry
    @dsmoosecountry6 ай бұрын

    Another point on Acts 15... we are given the reasoning behind the counsels decision to give the 4 restrictions in the verses describing how they came to their conclusion. However, in the actual letter, there is no mention on Moses being taught in the synagogues during the weekly sabbath. If this is a point to tell the gentile believers that they are to learn the law gradually by attending the synagogues, why was it not included in the actual letter?..... it would have been many years before the gentile churches could have read the remark about Moses and the synagogues because the book of Acts was not written or distributed yet.

  • @newyoutube3114
    @newyoutube3114 Жыл бұрын

    What is the standard that we are trying to reach

  • @joshuachurch4380
    @joshuachurch43808 ай бұрын

    For Moses has been proclaimed in all provinces since ancient times You do not have to command them to keep it....YAHUAH, Elohim commands it That is the New Covenant... the change of heart... instead of breaking the Covenant, we will desire to obey our Creator ...for sin is the transgressions of the Law Amen and Amen HalleluYah 🙏 🙏 🙏

  • @hornerjonw
    @hornerjonw2 жыл бұрын

    Great Lessons. Thanks for doing this lessons. I did have a question. Do you have a lesson on answering the Doctrine of “The Scattered Seed of Israel.”?

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Jonathan. I have not done anything regarding that doctrine yet. I've only recently been exposed to that teaching and I am still trying to understand it and what its implications are. Shalom, Rob

  • @hornerjonw

    @hornerjonw

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheBiblicalRootsir takes on Hebrews 8 vs 7. @@TheBiblicalRoots The Old Covenant and the New Covenant is the same Covenant. It's the ones that signed the covenant that had fault. God has no need to create two covenants but the ones invited to the wedding didn't come . So the Lord had to send out his spirit to find guest from among the heathen. When hebrews 8vrs 7 says For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place have been sought for a second. See right there the first covenant had fault we don't need to keep it , wrong , look at the next verse. For finding fault with THEM. He saith I will make a New Covenant with who ? The house of Isreal and the house of Judah. But another thing we have to remember is that the house of Isreal is only scattered seed that has lost its identity among the Gentiles and heathen they became Gentiles and heathens in the scattering in Hosea ,Ezekiel 37, and romans 9. The house of Judah is the two southern tribes of Judah and Benjamin that was there when Jesus walked. Though Judah is of Isreal , anytime we see the house of Isreal and the house of Judah in scripture it is referring to the 10 northern tribes under Ephriam and the 2 southern tribes under Judah .

  • @hornerjonw

    @hornerjonw

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheBiblicalRoots This is a take from Hebrews 8 that they believe and teach

  • @rayray4192
    @rayray41926 ай бұрын

    Now that’s a great opening-“ Come on, msn!” My sentiments to all Adventists and Hebrew roots heretics.

  • @B_Trott
    @B_Trott3 жыл бұрын

    Very helpful content brother! I don’t understand how this video doesn’t have more views, even if it’s only a few days old. The content you are giving should be heard by lots of people in the body of Christ.

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Brandon! That is very kind of you to say. I'm pretty passionate about this area of our Christian faith; the TRUE Jewish roots, so to speak. My KZread channel is still fairly new. I'm certainly hoping it grows as I continue to put out more content. Please help spread the word if you're so inclined! Blessings, Rob

  • @tactup23
    @tactup23 Жыл бұрын

    Paul introduced his own form of “noahide laws”, in contrast to the existing “gentile laws” that existed in his time. The Gentile laws were only meant to apply to those gentiles who wanted to live, work or travel through Israel. These gentile who didn’t believe in God and wanted to remain gentile were to follow this minimum standard while they were in our land. This was a civil law voted in by the elders of Israel. Paul borrowed from this preexisting set of man made laws and made his own oral law although it was not universally excepted.

  • @willp4725

    @willp4725

    Жыл бұрын

    What preexisting man made laws did Paul borrow? What law could Paul make if it already exists? I'm using the word you said "preexisting law".

  • @tactup23

    @tactup23

    Жыл бұрын

    @@willp4725 It sounds like you didn’t read my entire comment. I explained that in the first half. The laws were created in the Jewish court system that predated Paul. The laws were to protect the Jews and the Pagan just as much as they were used to hold them accountable. For instance they didn’t want to give the death penalty to a pagan just because they didn’t honor the Saturday sabbath. However they still had laws to abide by that we’re pretty basic.

  • @willp4725

    @willp4725

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tactup23Ok so what law did Paul borrow? Be specific.

  • @danielmajlath7428
    @danielmajlath74284 ай бұрын

    I found Your videos just today and i am very glad for it. Can You please clarify for me that what "Following Yeshua" precisely means? Thank You!

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    4 ай бұрын

    Hi, Daniel. I'm glad you found us! "Following Yeshua" means walking in the way that Yeshua taught us to walk and obeying what He commanded to us to do. We have a series of :60 videos that address your question: *Obeying God under the New Covenant* kzread.infoq2Zhi544_qY *Let's be Sermon on the Mount Christians* kzread.infolIEjcVo93a8 *We Uphold the Law* kzread.infob2PyWtxNkYk Blessings! Rob

  • @danielmajlath7428

    @danielmajlath7428

    4 ай бұрын

    @@TheBiblicalRootsThank You! I will definitely watch through these videos! I am a new believer and a bit confused i regard of some topics.

  • @newyoutube3114
    @newyoutube3114 Жыл бұрын

    Even when the sacrifices were made did the people disregard the Torah and say the the annual sacrifices will cover us don't worry.

  • @newyoutube3114
    @newyoutube3114 Жыл бұрын

    Although the temple is gone what about the laws that we can obey.

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    Жыл бұрын

    Hey, NY! Not every command that God has given applies to every person at all times. Some of His commands were only given to certain people (ex. Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses), or for certain times (ex. building an ark, gathering manna) and we're each only expected to keep the commands of God that apply to us. And the ceremonial Mosaic commands do not apply to Christians today. (ex. Repeated blood sacrifices for sin are no longer required.) Blessings, Rob

  • @MrCaza7096
    @MrCaza70965 ай бұрын

    Faith has always been based on Obedience(Heb 11), but this obedience is what Christ commanded not Torah 2 Thess 1:8

  • @rapturequeen76
    @rapturequeen76 Жыл бұрын

    Wanna tap the 🔔 but can’t find it..? 🤔

  • @SteveWV
    @SteveWV Жыл бұрын

    The Hebrew Roots people that I've talked to seemed to be very wacky. Especially some of the ones I've talked to recently. Sometimes it's not worth getting into debates with these people.

  • @ChrisTian-tz3eq
    @ChrisTian-tz3eq2 жыл бұрын

    ... Isn't it interesting tho, how in Acts 15 : 20, that James lists 4 Torah Commandments ( out of the Law of Moses, for the gentile Christians TO KEEP! ) ... If the intent is for em NOT to keep The Law of Moses... then why is he even "burdening" em with keeping ANY Commandments, Precepts, or Statutes, out of The Law of Moses??? ... 1. To Abstain from the pollutions of idols ( Exodus 20 : 1 - 6 .. Leviticus 19 : 4 .. & .. Leviticus 26 : 1 ) 2. From Fornication ( Exodus 34 : 15 - 16 .. Leviticus 20 : 5 - 6 ) 3. From things strangled ( Interesting that this one is a Rabbinical Law ..( but in connection w/ the blood not being drained out) 4. And from blood ( Leviticus 7 : 26 - 27 ) And notice verse 21 ... "For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues EVERY SABBATH DAY." * The implication, or conclusion, here - is that the new gentile converts will indeed be hearing Moses ( The Torah Portions ) every sabbath, when they come to church ... and will receive the knowledge of truth and righteousness then, as they continue to walk the narrow path, as Messiah did... Shalom : )

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi, Chris! I am sure you noticed that Acts 15:21 is written descriptively about the past, not prescriptively about the future. That's a pretty important distinction. The restrictions given to the new Gentile believers do not amount to anything close to the entire Law of Moses. In fact, if the Jerusalem Council wanted to give the Gentiles a set of "starter pack" commands for learning the entire Law, why did they not include the two most signature commands, both of which are easy to understand and keep: Shabbat and kosher food. These are not mentioned. To answer your question, those four particular restrictions were given to promote unity between the new Gentile believers and their Jewish brothers and sisters in the faith. These are things most Gentiles would not have realized would offend Jewish believers in Jesus. It is a consistent theme of the NT that we are not to do anything that would cause our brother to stumble. For example, on the topic of kosher food: "Do not, for the sake of food, destroy the work of God. Everything is indeed clean, but it is wrong for anyone to make another stumble by what he eats. It is good not to eat meat or drink wine or do anything that causes your brother to stumble." (Rom 14:20-21) Here's a video I made that explains it in greater detail: *Why were only four restrictions given in Acts 15?* kzread.info/dash/bejne/dXh30dmLhLKtepc.html Shalom.

  • @ChrisTian-tz3eq

    @ChrisTian-tz3eq

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheBiblicalRoots ... Hi! ... The mistake that many within Christianity make is that they try to understand the Bible (The New Testament especially ) thru the lens of a pagan Greek mindset, instead of a Jewish Hebrew one ... The gentile converts, under conviction by the Holy Spirit, knew that they were coming into the faith of Israel by believe in a JEWISH MESSIAH... With that being said, the Sabbath was just a given... There was no need to speak on what was already established and self-evident... The early Church WAS IN the synagogues... And the gentile believers met and kept Shabbat together there along with the believing Jews On The Sabbath Day. See Also: - Acts 13 : 42 - 44 - Acts Acts 16 : 13 - Acts 17 : 2 - Acts 18 : 4 Another thing that is just automatically assumed (by the Greek mindset ) is that whenever the NT speaks of "food" being "clean"; that it's pertaining to the flesh of "unclean" animals... But consider this -- The cultural issues that they dealt with back then concerning "food" also included: 1. The debate of whether or not eating "food" that had been previously sacrificed to idols was also "unclean" to eat? 2. The debate on which days of the week to fast upon, and what kind of fast to observe? (Rom. 14) & (1 Cor 8 ) 3. The debate on whether "common" foods ( kosher animals having been in close vicinity to non-kosher animals ) was clean or not? (Acts 10 : 14 - 15 ) 4. The Rabbinical Noahide Laws for gentiles... (From the Jewish Oral Law). All of these issues, and/or extra "traditional" commands were founded out of 'The Rabbinical Oral Law' (The Mishna ) of Judaism...Even the believing Jews were having a hard time breaking loose of.. ( The same types of "man-made traditions & commands" that Christ had His beef with the Pharisees about in Matt 15 and Mark 7! ..in "making void the commandment of God for their own tradition" - ( Mark 7 : 9 ) .. and "teaching for doctrines the commandments of men". - ( Matt 15 : 9 ) . * We have to remember too... Paul was a Pharisee, and son of a Pharisee! ( Acts 23 ) You know he had to have been steeped into all the traditions, extra- commandments, and all the other mumbo-jumbo of Judaism! ... So much so, that even Peter warned us about Not being led away by the error of unstable, ignorant, Lawless people in trying to understand Paul's letters... (paraphrasing here ) .. 2 Peter 3 : 15 - 17 For example: Compare what Paul said in 1 Cor 8 about eating meat sacrificed to idols ... He just a lot of times has a wishy-washy way, in beating around the bush, in saying what he's trying to say... But i get it.. an idol is nothing, and means nothing, regardless if some other whoever sacrifices food to what! .. It means nothing to us right? .. I mean, the guy at Subway could have dedicated my chicken sub to an idol of the Virgin Mary for all i know? ... Means nothing to me! ... But if i see him doing it, or have knowledge of it, or if someone else sees it , and knows that i know.. Then what? ... Should it then be a matter of principle??? A person reading Paul's explanation here, could have an argument either way; to eat or not eat... But there's only one right answer... In which the Apostle John in Revelation 2 : 14 & 2 : 20, is more straight forward and lays it out a little clearer! .. Better to be safe than sorry, i say ! ; D Shalom : )

  • @shawn-wr8ux

    @shawn-wr8ux

    2 жыл бұрын

    Research the synagogue of s- tan

  • @AbidethForever
    @AbidethForever Жыл бұрын

    Love this channel! Hopefully, the erroneous teaching of the Hebrew Roots Movement will be a short-lived Christian consideration. 119 Ministries has grown over the years, but keeping the Law is exhausting, not sustainable and a bondage contrary to TRUE freedom in Christ. Praise God for discerning Biblical teaching as Scripture says, "Iron sharpens iron as one man sharpens another." Proverbs 27:17.

  • @studywithmefolks5809
    @studywithmefolks58098 ай бұрын

    Okay, but at 20:21, the video pretty much says that Jesus says that divorce was allowed by Moses, but that isn't the case. However.... In the next verse (not read), Jesus says how one can be divorced without committing adultery. So it seems it was still allowed by Jesus. Also, side note: it seems as though 4 commandments are now required, instead of the 600+, as there were 4 commandments given by James. So, instead of us being required to follow the law of Moses (600+ commands), we are required to follow the law of James (4 commands). Am I wrong?

  • @josephlarrew

    @josephlarrew

    6 ай бұрын

    You have to look at why James put those commandments in there. It's not that actually required/mandated. James gives them those things so that they will be less of a stumbling block to those who have heard what Moses said (per the passage). You're reading that passage as if it's a commandment to you. It's not. It's what is a good idea for those people receiving the letter so that they aren't hindering their Jewish friends.

  • @studywithmefolks5809

    @studywithmefolks5809

    6 ай бұрын

    @@josephlarrew Then gentiles have no commandments they are required to follow.

  • @gainmeister4505
    @gainmeister450510 ай бұрын

    I have a friend I've known my entire life and he says they follow torah because jesus and the disciples where jewish and the pin on their belief for this is "not a pen stroke should be added or removed from the law" and they even go as far as to discredit pauls writings and go on explaining some strange constantine conspiracy and lob all "christians" in with this supposed catholic deception. Theyve also said follow the talmud and even mentioned the kabalah and gematria. Which are uninspired texts, which puts them in cross with their pin "not a pen stroke should be added or removed"

  • @timbeauxclary
    @timbeauxclary3 жыл бұрын

    Good stuff. Do you have plans to address more of 119 Ministries' wrong teachings? If so, please look at how they use Jesus's parable of the wineskins in Luke 5 to teach that the old covenant is better.

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wow. I haven't seen that teaching of theirs. Do you know where I can it?

  • @timbeauxclary

    @timbeauxclary

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheBiblicalRoots go to their website and search for "wineskins". It will pull up their video, " Garments and Wineskins". The transcript is available if you prefer to read vs listen.

  • @timbeauxclary

    @timbeauxclary

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheBiblicalRoots I have a close family member who follows Torahism and relies on 119Ministries teaching. i have been studying to refute their false hermeneutic for a few years now. I think it boils down to a wrong presupposition. They (119Min) view the Bible through a "Jewish" lens, and interpret the OT in that light. Yet, they want to affirm Jesus as Messiah. Exactly what Jesus addressed in the garment and wineskins parable, and what Paul wrote about in Galatians.

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@timbeauxclary Thanks for the head's up, Timbeaux! I will check out their wineskins video.

  • @musicinspire1745
    @musicinspire1745 Жыл бұрын

    So the sacrifices were reminders of sin for those who were not indwelt by Holy Spirit, but we are now indwelt. Some of our HR friends believe that sacrifices are still a valid requirement. Does that mean they are not indwelt by Holy Spirit. If that is the case, then I understand their need for offering up sacrifices that deny the cross.

  • @elliesilva1907

    @elliesilva1907

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh my gosh. Sacrifices nowadays after Christ already died for us? You can’t enter the kingdom of heaven unless he is your Passover lamb. Not good.

  • @maxxhyatt1265
    @maxxhyatt12652 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Keep up the good work. I have been studying HBM for 3 years now. I have close people that have fallen into that mindset unfortunately. Food for thought tho two of those laws are not found in Torah 1st one is food offered to idols and 2nd eating things that are strangled. Paul also says we can eat meat offered to idiol as long as we don't make our brother stumble in 1 corthians 8 Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge: for some with conscience of the idol unto this hour eat it as a thing offered unto an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled. But meat commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse. 1 Corinthians 8:7‭-‬8 KJV The verse in acts 15,21 that for Moses of old time hath in ever city that preach him being read in the synagogues. So the question about this verse does it show gentiles will learn the law and those 4 laws given are a starter law. I started reading this is what I found. Acts 18;11 Paul stayed 1 year 6 months acts 19;8-10 Paul says 2 years and 3 months acts 20; 3 Paul stays for 3 months. This makes 4 years and Paul reiterates and repeats in acts 21;25 As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication. Acts 21:25 KJV so my thoughts and question was if this is a starter law why does 4 years pass by and Paul still say these four laws they would've had plenty of time to learn going to the synagogues every sabbath? Most dates published between acts 15 and 21 are roughly a decade apart

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Maxx! Don't forget that by the time Paul stayed 18 months in Corinth (18:11), he had traveled through many other cities where he stayed "for some days" or "many days longer." Loose phrases like this are used often in Acts and could mean a week or a few months or more. So the time frame between the writing of the Jerusalem Council letter and Paul quoting it in Acts 21:25 is likely much longer than four years. And your point is a good one! After all those years, the Gentiles were _still_ not expected to learn the Law.

  • @maxxhyatt1265

    @maxxhyatt1265

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes that is a great point I never put that together thank you ! I read your book awhile back I was wondering your thought on acts 10. Ik HRM would say something like the food peter seen is still unclean but people or gentiles are clean now. Which is kinda a false analogy if you use it that way. My thoughts was even if u went that route and said the food is describing people how could the desciples teach them about the law of unclean and clean foods. Acts 10:28 (KJV 1900): 28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean. .....so if a gentile or even jew was eating bacon which would make them unclean how could Peter tell them they were unclean bc God specifically said call no man common or unclean

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@maxxhyatt1265 Hey, Maxx! Here's a video I did on that topic: "What does Acts 10 teach about food laws?" kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZoCKlquKZMiXprA.html

  • @rmotta81
    @rmotta81Ай бұрын

    Easy to debate.

  • @newyoutube3114
    @newyoutube3114 Жыл бұрын

    What is GODs standard of obedience from your chart. If Jesus fills in the gap where we fall short why strive for any of. If I accept Jesus that's all that matters. I can do what I want because Jesus fills in the gaps.

  • @elijahirvin5911
    @elijahirvin5911 Жыл бұрын

    This man said God's word and his standard never changed. The law is his word and his standard Jesus Christ is the word of God Revelation 19:13 John 1:14 John 14:6 Jesus is the way the truth and the life. Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday today and forever. Matthew 19:17 what must I do to the Harry eternal life Jesus said keep the commandments. He is slick though if you don't know your Bible he will get you. RL is cunning and crafty.

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Elijah, is it your opinion that followers of Jesus achieve salvation by keeping the Torah? ~Rob

  • @elijahirvin5911

    @elijahirvin5911

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheBiblicalRoots you are saved by faith in Jesus Christ the law was never intended to save anybody the Law points out sin that shows us that we need a savior. Now after you believe in Christ and Christ saves you then you keep the law out of obedience that's how you show that you love God by obeying him. You don't keep the law for salvation you keep the law because of your salvation. Ecclesiastes 12:13 this is the whole duty of man fear God and keep his commandments. Jesus Christ said keep my commandments if you love me he is the one that spoke the ten commandments he is the one that wrote the ten commandments. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday today and forever Hebrews 13:8. One body One Faith one law one way for everybody one nation that nation is Israel

  • @elijahirvin5911

    @elijahirvin5911

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheBiblicalRoots last but not least faith without works is dead

  • @jefferydriggers523

    @jefferydriggers523

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@elijahirvin5911 it's talking about faith in front of man.

  • @Angie-fn8op
    @Angie-fn8opАй бұрын

    Is Galatians 2 speaking about the Jerusalem council, the "so called believers"?

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    Ай бұрын

    Hi Angie. I don't believe so, no. There seem to be too many gaps between the two accounts. I take the position that Galatians was written before the Jerusalem Council happened. But it's certainly something that is debated among scholars. Blessings, RLS

  • @Angie-fn8op

    @Angie-fn8op

    Ай бұрын

    @@TheBiblicalRoots thank you so much for replying! I was kind of thinking that maybe Paul wrote his account of that first, and then Luke wrote his account of it and acts and that's why it was slightly different. But I guess it would be difficult to say for sure.

  • @newyoutube3114
    @newyoutube3114 Жыл бұрын

    If I told a new believer to not drink or curse is it because I would be offended

  • @ArchDLuxe
    @ArchDLuxe2 жыл бұрын

    I think you were spot on about there being only 2 positions argued @ the Jerusalem council. You seem to read into the instructions returned to the Gentiles some idea about unity that I don't see in the text. You say at 26:33 the Law (of Moses) was good and holy, but Paul in Romans 7 says it IS good and holy. It seems like you are positing some revelation since Romans was written changing that. Chapter and verse?

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hey, Arch! You're right, Paul says the Law _is_ (present tense) good and holy. And to whom does that Law apply? Jews and Gentiles? No, it was only given to Jews. And does it apply to Jewish believers in Jesus in the same way it applied to Jews under Moses? No, because Jesus has fulfilled parts of the Law. (Such as the blood atonement for sin sacrifices.) The decision handed down Acts 15 was only for the Gentiles (Acts 15:23). Shalom, Rob

  • @ArchDLuxe

    @ArchDLuxe

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheBiblicalRoots we are in full agreement that the law given through Moses has specific applications; some laws for all Israelites and others for just the Levites and so forth. Where does that leave eternal statues such as Passover? I believe that Israelites should continue to observe such statutes (as Ex. 12:24 makes clear), though I recognize that they cannot through obedience merit salvation.

  • @charitybrook6279

    @charitybrook6279

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheBiblicalRoots so if the law is a burden then why would God give a burden to His Jewish children and not His gentile children? Don't you see that is the direct cause of all of the division you speak of?? If we all kept God's law we wouldn't be divided. But we have all like sheep gone our own ways...

  • @alfredmyers1644
    @alfredmyers16445 ай бұрын

    Here is something I don't understand with what R.L. is saying. The seventh-Day-Sabbath was not first given to Moses or the Hebrews at Mt Sinai, neither were the clean meats and unclean meats. So why would both these subjects be only part or the Law of Moses? The seventh-Day-Sabbath was given at creation of this world before any people were called Hebrews or Israel. The clean meats and unclean were shown to be something at the flood when unclean animals cam by one, or two pairs when the clean animals came by seven or pairs of seven. Also the clean meats to eat were given to Noah after the flood a long time before Moses and the Hebrews were a people.

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    5 ай бұрын

    Hi Alfred! Actually, the seventh day Sabbath was not given at creation. There are no commands issued during the creation account. Genesis simply tells what God _did_ on the 7th day. "By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work. Then God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done." (Gen 2:2-3). God did not go back to work on the eighth day, and He did not institute a repeating weekly pattern of rest for anyone at that time. The weekly 7th day Sabbath wasn't introduced until He gave it to Israel in Exodus 16. And notice that all throughout the Old Testament, we never see the Sabbath being expected of anyone else except the Israelites. And BTW, God gave Noah permission to eat *all* meats. He said, *"Everything that lives and moves* about will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you *everything."* (Gen. 9:3). Blessings, Rob

  • @alfredmyers1644

    @alfredmyers1644

    5 ай бұрын

    I do understand what you replied. I don't totally agree, but I'm one of those people that you said you have not met. I don't condemn anyone that wants to follow GOD in the way they understand what GOD wants of them to do. I go to church on Saturday and Sunday. The bible does not tell us what day to have church services on. It does not tell us to keep Sunday in remembrance of Jesus's resurrection, as some believe. I like to listen to others opinions about GOD. Then I try to search out for myself what the bible is tell me. @@TheBiblicalRoots

  • @alfredmyers1644

    @alfredmyers1644

    5 ай бұрын

    Here is how I see the Sabbath, the seventh day. "God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it" He set it apart because He rested on that day. We are to enter his rest and this is the only verse that I know of that explains that GOD rested so I keep the seventh day because He rested that day and I want to enter His rest. That might not make much sense to you but that is my reason.@@TheBiblicalRoots

  • @TheBeginningOfWisdom
    @TheBeginningOfWisdom3 жыл бұрын

    While I have seen them affirm salvation through faith, it gets muddy at times. Over a year ago, I responded to their “What is the Gospel” pair of videos, which, despite communication I’ve received from them at the time, remain up. They conflate the Gospel with the Law, such that it erases the distinctions between faith and works. It’s very confused at the least, if not outright denial of the biblical doctrine of Sola Fide.

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, very muddy. What is your assessment of why Christians are pulled into such errant teachings? I imagine a lack of biblical literacy plays a role. But what is the pay-off? What does 119 teach that some people find more compelling than orthodox Christian theology?

  • @TheBeginningOfWisdom

    @TheBeginningOfWisdom

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheBiblicalRoots their criticisms of modern American Evangelicalism are usually correct. There’s a lack of biblical literacy, lack of concern with living in a way that pleases God, while making everything man-centered, both theologically and practically. Torahism provides a simple answer, and I think it’s just human nature to desire simplicity. That desire is how we get anti-Trinitarian heresies, as well as simplistic theology of the Law. The problem is that simple doesn’t mean true, and in fact often avoids truth to maintain that simple axiom they started with. Ironically, when you go after falsehoods, you always end up running into the truth, hence the confused, complicated ways they try to get around passages like Acts 15 and others. So they end up choosing a confused complexity of ad hoc explanations rather than the complex, but coherent, truth of Scripture.

  • @brandonvonbo9708

    @brandonvonbo9708

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheBeginningOfWisdom so the 4 things in Acts 15 is all a Christian need do?

  • @TheBeginningOfWisdom

    @TheBeginningOfWisdom

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@brandonvonbo9708 No, and that is a straw man position that no one holds. The context tells you, if you’re willing to listen. I also did a video on this chapter answering that question. kzread.info/dash/bejne/lquCs9ZqaMzeotI.html

  • @brandonvonbo9708

    @brandonvonbo9708

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheBeginningOfWisdom I agree, so why were those 4 things only mentioned, since clearly that is not all gentiles need to be doing?

  • @karlcooke5410
    @karlcooke54102 жыл бұрын

    Roman 2vs24 to 29, Circumcision of the Heart. John 14v15 Yahushua said, love Me keep My Commandments. Obedience to Righteousness. The Elohim give Moses the Law, God's, Good Night Jake, time to put you bed.

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    2 жыл бұрын

    Who is Jake?

  • @mikeb8644
    @mikeb8644 Жыл бұрын

    Salvation and reward are not the same thing. Salvation was made available to everyone, but not everyone will be saved. So what's the difference? What you do. You will be judged according to your works, and you will be rewarded according to that judgement ... some to everlasting life and some to condemnation and wrath. So your "works" better line up with what He wants you to do be doing. What do you suppose that is? Read the WHOLE book and find out.

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    Жыл бұрын

    "For by grace you have been saved *through faith.* And this is *not your own doing;* it is the gift of God, not a result of works, *so that no one may boast."* (Eph. 2:8-9) Blessings, RLS

  • @mikeb8644

    @mikeb8644

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheBiblicalRoots God "He will render to each one according to his works: to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; but for those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, there will be wrath and fury.." - Romans 2:6-8 And what "truth" are we to obey? Your righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, And Your Law is truth. - Psalm 119:142 What is righteousness? "It will be righteousness for us if we are careful to observe all this commandment before the LORD our God, just as He commanded us." - Deuteronomy 6:25 Do what He says (obey), for the right reason (because you love Him), and it will avail you much.

  • @leonaperdue8784
    @leonaperdue8784 Жыл бұрын

    Yes, “not required for salvation”, but doesn’t 119 believe salvation is questionable in an individual if they do not keep the law. And, even if saved, definitely in sin if the law is not kept.

  • @kennethknott9138
    @kennethknott9138 Жыл бұрын

    "John" presented a false dilemma at 3:45, stating that one position had to be right, the other wrong. There is another option (the correct one) - that both positions were wrong. There is no need for Torah observance for salvation, and no need for strict Torah observance for obedience. This is clearly borne out (for those who really want to see) in the rest of the passage.

  • @marybrosseuk2144
    @marybrosseuk2144 Жыл бұрын

    I have been told many times by Hebrew Roots that I will lose heaven without keeping the sabbath, etc. it may not be standard believe in their religion, but many members are telling people that.

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi, Mary. That is heartbreaking and frustrating! It's the false Gospel that Paul argues against in the book of Galatians. Our salvation does not depend on our works, so no one can brag that they were good enough to get to heaven on their own. "For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, *not a result of works,* so that no one may boast" (Eph 2:8-9). Blessings, Rob

  • @MaryShmee

    @MaryShmee

    7 ай бұрын

    Hi Mary, I was told this also and I excruciatingly struggled with this because I have 4 special needs boys which makes it literally impossible to follow their laws, including the Shabbat, in which I cried to my friend, that for this to be done I would have to leave my family behind, in which she did not respond. I am grieving the loss of my friendship and recovering from the oppressive guilt. I’m new to this channel but it’s helping me to understand the true Grace of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. One thing I have noticed is that the HRM is using a relatively new translation of the Bible called the cepher, have you heard of this?

  • @musicinspire1745
    @musicinspire1745 Жыл бұрын

    Wait a minute. They cannot escape the element of salvation in keeping the Law of Moses when we are told in scripture that the wrath of Yah is poured out upon the disobedient. Therefore, keeping the Law of Moses is indeed an element of salvation. They can deny this as vehemently as they so choose, but it's inescapable. Our not binding ourselves under the curse of the Law of Moses is exactly the same as unbelievers, so HR people trying to differentiate along that line falls upon the deafening silence from which they draw so much of their theology.

  • @jonathangee7304
    @jonathangee73046 ай бұрын

    Hahaha he contradicts himself. 119 calls it obedience. You call it “ things you want to do”. I’d recommend anyone watching this video to read the scripture over a few times. Pray about it. Put it down. Read it again. It’s worth spending all the time you need to get perfect clarification on this topic. Very essential! I’ve tried to look at it your way solberg. I’m getting no dice every time. 119 for the win on this one! I’ll give this video a 5/10. Maybe it’s tough to go back on what you said and convinced yourself to believe your own lie so you can keep selling books. 🤷 sorry as a teacher of the word I have to test your teaching too!

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    6 ай бұрын

    Amen, Jonathan! I would also recommend that anyone watching this video should read the scripture over a few times. Pray about it. Put it down. Read it again. It’s worth spending all the time you need to get clarification on this topic. Rob

  • @newyoutube3114
    @newyoutube3114 Жыл бұрын

    I don't think they teach that GODs standard changes. I think that what they were doing was telling the gentiles to stop doing the things in their culture that were against GODs word. Just like unbelievers today. They should stop drinking,smoking,cursing,sleeping around,etc They start there and begin to understand GODs word more and more. If I stop doing these things, is that all

  • @carmensiekierke3579
    @carmensiekierke35793 жыл бұрын

    Everywhere a person turns they are told the meaning of "faith" is "obedience." Here's a Tabletalk review of N.T. Wright's 2018 book "Paul: A Biography." heidelblog.net/2018/05/wright-is-still-wrong/

  • @elliot7205
    @elliot720510 ай бұрын

    Jesus gave a parable of how he will judge the sheep and the goats, being good feeding the poor etc will get you into the kingdom. Totally at odds with Paul's teaching. How is this reconciled?

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    10 ай бұрын

    Hi, Elliot. They are not at odds. Obedience is not the _source_ of salvation or God's love, it is the _product_ of salvation and God's love. RLS

  • @elliot7205

    @elliot7205

    10 ай бұрын

    @@TheBiblicalRoots I don't fully understand what do you mean?

  • @elliot7205

    @elliot7205

    9 ай бұрын

    @@TheBiblicalRoots hi what do you mean exactly can you elaborate please?

  • @tonybenjamin7844
    @tonybenjamin78447 ай бұрын

    In Isaiah 2 GOD gives clear instruction that The Law is still in force. Isaiah is speaking of "The Latter Days" a clear reference to the Messianic times ahead: The Future House of God 2 The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem. 2 Now it shall come to pass in the latter days That the mountain of the Lord’s house Shall be established on the top of the mountains, And shall be exalted above the hills; And all nations shall flow to it. 3 Many people shall come and say, “Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, To the house of the God of Jacob; He will teach us His ways, And we shall walk in His paths.” For out of Zion shall go forth the law, And the word of the Lord from Jerusalem. The Biblical truth that GOD's Laws/Commandments/ Ordinances/Decrees are not done away with is clear throughout scripture. Teaching another doctrine is not wise.

  • @Pverb623
    @Pverb623 Жыл бұрын

    Tehillim/Psalms 149:4 For HaShem favors His nation, He adorns the humble with salvation. Psalms 135:4 For the Lord has chosen Jacob for himself, Israel as his own possession. Why do none of these verses give even a thought to Jesit or the NT, nor blood? 2 Chronicles 7:14 if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land. Professor how or why do you miss this? What is your earthly desire, your vice, your muse….?

  • @newyoutube3114
    @newyoutube3114 Жыл бұрын

    If we disregard the law of Moses, what does your salvation line represent. What is wrong with keeping any of these. Why did Moses tell the people that these laws are not hard to follow and the people can do them. The laws are not difficult to keep once you look at them. There was a lot of oral tradition that the jews added to the law in their interpretation. I think that's what Jesus and the apostles spoke against. The fathers laid a burden on them that thay could not follow not God

  • @dahokage1043

    @dahokage1043

    Жыл бұрын

    The laws are not the difficult to keep but you don’t keep it lol

  • @miken8820
    @miken88202 жыл бұрын

    I've looked hard for names of the 119 guys and they have proven difficult to find. It seems odd to me. Wouldn't the want people to know them? If they want me to know the words the speak, knowing them goes a long way.

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I spent a while looking as well. They have gone to great lengths to keep their identities hidden. It says a lot that a teacher is not willing to put their name on their teaching.

  • @charitybrook6279

    @charitybrook6279

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheBiblicalRoots or it means that they don't want to glorify their own names?? Do we know the apostles last names? Jesus last name? What faulty logic...

  • @walkinginthegodgiven-jerem5502
    @walkinginthegodgiven-jerem5502 Жыл бұрын

    My heart is saddened that this video would make such inaccurate assumptions. Yes the debate was over salvation vs holiness/obedience. If Christ ended the law it was blasphemy on James part to enforce those laws. It wasn’t four it was actually dozens of laws from the four. The real reason James put external church legislation on the new converts was because these sins were existential for the body of Christ to survive and be minimally distinct from the world especially at this time. James and the apostles knew, that legislating from a central command the laws of GOD was getting dangerously close to becoming a mediator system. They knew JESUS died to be the personal teacher of Everyman in the Kingdom inside from their heart . The apostles knew that they had the right to teach Moses weekly and let Christ in every man convict them in time or over generations of time and that they would walk out 30,60,100 fold of the commandments of GOD as CHRIST enabled eventually as HE willed. The entire battle of history for nearly all societies is the issues of external rule vs inward rule. In Christ’s kingdom it is inside out not outside in like the old covenant tried to do and especially how the Pharisees tried to do on super steroids (major outside works to inside change). We are to keep the commandments of GOD given through all of Torah and the gospels by HIS conviction, by HIS strength upon hearing the word. . Now to Abstain from sexual immorality includes many many laws of sexual sins, to abstain from food sacrificed to idols and blood have a bunch of laws with them as well. We aren’t talking 4 but dozens of laws. It was a safety pack not starter pack.

  • @dahokage1043

    @dahokage1043

    Жыл бұрын

    A lot of reading into the text scriptures teaches that we don’t need to keep the shadows of the law of Moses

  • @walkinginthegodgiven-jerem5502

    @walkinginthegodgiven-jerem5502

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dahokage1043 humbly, you are grossly in error. It is not a lot of reading into the scripture. It is just rightly dividing. Yet for anyone to say that Christ came to abolish the law would then be proving that he was a false Messiah. The reason so many are confused; possibly yourself, is they have no proficiency in the Torah, and in the writings, and in the prophets. Therefore, when they read the gospels and the new covenant epistles, They just have no idea where these men are coming from, nor the kingdom in which they live.

  • @dahokage1043

    @dahokage1043

    Жыл бұрын

    @@walkinginthegodgiven-jerem5502 I have been studying the Torah you have not keep it nor do you keep it or are justified by it but except others to be required to keep it ? It says CURSED is everyone who doesn’t count our in all things in this book of the law do you keep all the law ?

  • @walkinginthegodgiven-jerem5502

    @walkinginthegodgiven-jerem5502

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dahokage1043 you do not understand the plan of GOD, nor the plan of Salvation. We are saved for Goodworks to do the very best that we can. just because we can’t keep all points of the law perfectly in order to be righteous in GODS sight, Does not mean that now that Christ has given us his righteousness so that we may receive HIS SPIRIT that we abandon all of the holiness, and all of the commandments in which he has desired in us from the beginning?

  • @peteholms9298
    @peteholms92982 жыл бұрын

    the messiah was asked twice what must we do to have eternal life, both times he said keep the torah...so your stance would have to contradict what the messiah taught. as your stance would say, its not applicable to gentiles.... your stance that gentiles only need to keep those 4 commandments would mean we can be homesexual until we die, and still be saved. as there are much more commandments additional to those 4, that are salvatic.

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    2 жыл бұрын

    Pete, 1.) In both cases when Jesus started by saying said "keep the commandments," he was talking to Jews who were under the Law of Moses. When the rich young man said he had kept the commandments since his youth, Jesus added more: he was told to follow Jesus and make Him his top priority in life. That is how we inherit eternal life. In the case of the lawyer, the answer was not the Torah, but the two greatest commandments, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind, and your neighbor as yourself.” 2.) I have never said or taught that "Gentiles only need to keep those 4 commandments." That would be silly. We need to keep everything Jesus taught us! Shalom, Rob

  • @ChristGospel332

    @ChristGospel332

    2 жыл бұрын

    One of those four was sexual immortality which homosexuality would fall in that category.

  • @tactup23
    @tactup23 Жыл бұрын

    Since God himself never discusses heavenly eternal salvation it makes one wonder why we are so obsessed with it. Even to the extent that we exclude or even condemn one another. If we lived in the ancient times we would believe that salvation meant God promises to save Israel from our enemies and deliver us from those that persecute us. But only if we (Jews & Gentiles) as a nation of Gods people, were obedient to the laws of that nation . Has this truth left us in favor of individual pursuit of eternity? It seems to me that arguing over heavenly “Salvatory” issues is a foolish waste of time and a sorry excuse to eliminate brothers from the fold. We have become so distracted by heaven that we’re no earthly good anymore. It’s no wonder that today Jews remain in exile and your messiah hasn’t returned. Until we get our act together as humans neither is a reality. Salvation meaning redemption to the promised land through repentance to God’s Law according to our faith in his promise, is undeniable in the Tanakh. Supernatural rapture as a result of mankind’s sin, isn’t a pattern we see in the ancient times. Kings (messiahs) are not appointed to scattered (exiled) nations. You want your messiah back? Then repent and return to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob who with an outstretched arm redeems his people from amongst the nations from where they were scattered because of their actions and not because of their faith.

  • @humanheart5229
    @humanheart5229 Жыл бұрын

    ...obedience to what? Is my question. Isn't the gentiles' obedience to follow Jesus' commands - and aren't His commands to His disciples different than the LoM? It still feels that dogmatic value within their adherence to LoM isn't obedience but is ritualistic and hmm....idolization of Jewish culture. I...I just...there is a very fine line there that I've seen inevitably lead to leaving the way of the Gospel very swiftly.

  • @darciecoombs5050
    @darciecoombs50509 ай бұрын

    Why do you Ignore Christ's command in Matthew 23:1-3? Any one who relaxes the least of these commands will be least in the Kingdom? The great Commission calls us to do and to teach ALL that Christ Commands!

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    9 ай бұрын

    Which of Christ's commands do you think I am ignoring, Darcy? I teach and believe that obedience is God’s “love language.” Jesus said, “If you love me, you will keep my commandments” (John 14:15). And I'm sure you would agree that not every command that God has given applies to every person at all times. Some of His commands only apply to certain people (i.e., men, women, parents, Levitical priests) or for certain times (i.e., building an ark, gathering manna, while in exile). And I'm sure you would also agree that we are each only expected to keep the commands of God that apply to us. The NT teaches that the ceremonial Mosaic commands do not apply to Christians today. (ex. Repeated blood sacrifices for sin are no longer required (Heb 10:18).) We still serve God and obey His commands, “But now we are released from the law, having died with Christ to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code” (Rom 7:6). Blessings, Rob

  • @darlenedine8987
    @darlenedine8987 Жыл бұрын

    119 ministries teaching is correct. Here are a couple alternative teachings (👇). No one is saying (or has said) commandments are a means to salvation. This is a straw man argument Mr Solberg keeps reverting to even though that claim is not being made. He also states the law of Moses is a burden. The longest chapter in the Bible ‘Psalm 119’ refutes this statement and Our Messiah never stated this (anywhere). The four baseline things mentioned are evidence of salvation (true conversion). They are not just practices to foster unity with Jewish brethren. To say they were only keeping them while around their newly converted Jewish brothers would make them hypocrites and annul the entire purpose of the Council’s ruling. These are actually sins Ephraim (lost house) committed that led to their exile and them being cut off from the covenant. In other words, in order to move forward in unity, these basic things (sins) must be repented of and settled as transgressions that must be forsaken. That is hardly limited to these preliminary requirements considering there are many commandments Christians would consider valid that are not on this list like loving your neighbor as yourself, don’t steal, don’t bear false witness against your neighbor, etc (all found in the Torah). Our works are always evidence of Our love for God (and love of our neighbor), not to gain salvation or our own righteousness. That is the point of the entire debate...to test that these men have truly been converted and these practices would be a beginning point to invite them into the assemblies so that they could continue on that journey their conversion began. Mr Solberg admits there is a process of sanctification after salvation as he illustrated on his board. Regarding that sanctification, our trust in YaHshua always leads us to righteousness and it is never OUR righteousness, it is always His. Every good act we do is rooted in the Holy Spirit working in us. Test everything does not dispute this. But there is a standard (as Mr. Solberg states) and that standard is the word of God. The disagreement is in what ‘words of God’ we should follow. Mr. Solberg does not answer this question, merely says it’s not the Torah. So if he is changing the standard, he needs to define what it has changed to. As for his new covenant references from the prophets (Jer. 31), that will be completed upon YaHshua’s return. It will be the Torah. When the regathering takes place and we are brought to Zion is when this will happen. If you read the entire chapter, that will be clear. Another reference for this is Ezekiel 36:24-32. YaHshua’s first coming was a partial fulfillment and established His temple (within us) on this foundation (salvation by grace alone), a completion of our redemption will take place at His second coming. Advice to those trying to ‘rescue’ their loved ones from HR. Please stop, they are on the right path for a purpose you do not understand...yet. This is about realms of life and death, holy and profane, clean and unclean and what is coming upon the earth will require this understanding. kzread.info/dash/bejne/gqt2y6uOdtLfebw.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/fYKgq9OPetC5mrg.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/l6N-ysiefpexmJs.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/fHaDpMSplc-wlJM.html

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Darlene! I'm sure you are not familiar with my entire body of work, but I definitely do answer the question of which commands of God are Christians called to follow. Although the Torah commands about eating kosher and keeping the feasts and the weekly Sabbath and circumcision aren’t required of Christians under the New Covenant, we do still have commands. For example, Christians are called to forgive, even if we don’t feel like it. And we’re called to love even unlovable people just like Jesus did. And we’re called to be generous even when we can’t afford to be, and serve one another when we don’t want to, and avoid lust while living in a sexually permissive society, and stay away from greed while surrounded by materialism, and abstain from idolatry in a celebrity-obsessed society. And we're called to share the Good News and make disciples of all nations. So when we read in the Bible about learning to love and follow God’s laws, _these_ are the laws that apply to Christians today. And keeping them is how we show our love for Jesus, and remain holy and set apart from the world. And compared to those commands, eating kosher is a piece of cake! ;-) Blessings, Rob

  • @darlenedine8987

    @darlenedine8987

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheBiblicalRoots All of that has its roots in the Torah Mr Solberg. YaHshua did not teach His own doctrine (John 7:16-18). James 4:11-12, One law giver, One who is able to both save and destroy. Christians are keeping the Torah, they just have an issue with certain commandments because they resemble Jewish practices is what I hear. Not uncommon actually, been going on for a couple thousand years.

  • @dahokage1043

    @dahokage1043

    Жыл бұрын

    @@darlenedine8987Nah we keep the law of Christ and walk by the sprit

  • @stephenfoster9009
    @stephenfoster90094 ай бұрын

    Wow, read Ephesians 2 the Torah is the good works that God prepared for us to do. Obedience to God’s Law comes after we are freed from Egypt

  • @judemichaelvelez6789

    @judemichaelvelez6789

    Ай бұрын

    The torah is Permitted but NOT required. The torah is the shadow but Christ is the substance. You follow the shadow while i follow the substance ok.

  • @danocinneide1885
    @danocinneide1885 Жыл бұрын

    Doesn't this show that The Church was given God's authority to teach? "Bible alone" seems very tenuous here?

  • @johnp3081
    @johnp3081 Жыл бұрын

    John is correct! AS PER PAUL.....“Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing, but keeping the commandments of God is what matters.” - 1Cor 7:19 (NKJV)

  • @karlcooke3197
    @karlcooke31972 жыл бұрын

    Really, Rom 6v1, Do we keep Sinning (1 John 3v4) that Grace may abound, may it never be. Is Grace a licence to Sin, Sin is Breaking YAH'S(God) law. Rom 3v31 Do we then make void the law through Faith? God Forbid, yea, we the Establish law(Torah). Deut 8v3 Matt 4v4, Luke 4v4, Yahushua said it is written that we need every word of Elohim. Why did God call pork unclean? Would you eat rats? Yes Sin start in the mind-heart, if Christmas and Easter are pagan festivals why Christians keep them? I was in church 17yrs, I love Messiah and the Bible, You Christians do my head in. Study to approve yourself unto Elohim a workman that needs not to be ashamed, Rightly dividing the Word of Elohim.

  • @jessebryant9233

    @jessebryant9233

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm afraid that you're committing the fallacy of equivocation... which seems to be the life source for Hebrew Roots error. Solberg has lots of other videos/studies addressing some of what you mention above. Hope you've checked them out...

  • @joshuachurch4380
    @joshuachurch43808 ай бұрын

    If you love Me you will keep My Commandments The greatest in the Kingdom will do and teach even the least of The Commandments

  • @judemichaelvelez6789

    @judemichaelvelez6789

    Ай бұрын

    Can you really measure your love for God? If you can...good for you but please keep it to yourself coz many are still struggling and telling people you love God most compared to us is arrogant and full of yourself. Proximity does not mean insight. Shalom

  • @joshuachurch4380

    @joshuachurch4380

    Ай бұрын

    He said to them, “Therefore every scribe who has become a disciple of the kingdom of heaven is like a head of a household, who brings out of his treasure things new and old.” Mattityahu 13 52

  • @timw6110
    @timw611011 ай бұрын

    If you study acts 15 and the law of the most high (Torah), you see that James came to the conclusion in one portion of Leviticus. Why? Since the gentiles were atoned of their sins by the blood of Christ, they read from the Torah portion “after the death” which is the law of atonement (Leviticus 16), the next instructions in the word are “sacrificing and strangling outside the camp” which is idolatry and pagan. (Leviticus 17) then instructed the blood (Leviticus 17)….then instructed sexual immorality (Leviticus 18). All from one Torah portion! That possibly could of been the Torah portion they read at the time of the council!!! Praise!!! Then he goes on to tell them that they will continue to learn the scriptures every sabbath! ( acts 15:21) Walk as the word! (1 John 2:6) The word that became flesh! (John 1:14)

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    11 ай бұрын

    Yes! I actually explored those connections to Leviticus in some detail in my video *New Observations on the four requirements of the Jerusalem Council (Acts 15):* kzread.info/dash/bejne/a66FrLSghruooJM.html And BTW, Acts 15:21 does not say that they will continue to learn the law in the synagogues every Sabbath. We know this for at least two reasons: (1.) The NT never describes gentile followers of Jesus learning the law in the synagogue every Sabbath, and (2.) Jesus prophesied that His followers would be put out of the synagogues (John 16:2), which came true in the first century. Blessings, Rob

  • @newyoutube3114
    @newyoutube3114 Жыл бұрын

    The was no law of divorce. This is misleading.

  • @peteholms9298
    @peteholms92982 жыл бұрын

    also. heb 8 says the new covenant hasnt happened yet. its ready to vanish. Hebrews was written 30-70yrs after messiahs death.

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hey, Pete! Hebrews was written in AD 63-64. Just a few years later, in AD 70, the temple was destroyed. Ever since then no one has been able to truly keep the Law of Moses. There has been no temple, no priesthood, no sacrifices. The Sinai Covenant is obsolete and has vanished away. Meanwhile, the New Covenant-which Jesus told us was in His blood (Luke 22:20; 1 Cor 11:25)-was inaugurated at Jesus' crucifixion.

  • @peteholms9298

    @peteholms9298

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheBiblicalRoots ok thanks. the live with be awesome. and edifying. thanks

  • @peteholms9298

    @peteholms9298

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheBiblicalRoots that would be a contradiction brother. hebrews clearly says in chap 8 that it is "ready to vanish". stating it hasnt happened yet. There are no laws written on your heart. You are mortal and still learning. Read chapt 8. for they will all know me, from the least to the greatest. well that hasnt happend yet. I will write my Torah on their hearts and they shall be my people. That hasnt happend yet. So if we are no longer under the torah instructions, right after his death before the new testament was written, What laws were believers under? makes no sense. I guess after messiahs death you could have sex with animals, kidnap, and have sex with your sister?

  • @TheBiblicalRoots

    @TheBiblicalRoots

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@peteholms9298 Hey, Pete. I didn't say we are under *no* law, just not the Law of Moses. "But now we are released from the law, having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code" (Rom 7:6). So let me ask you this, if we are *not* yet under the New Covenant, what did Jesus mean when He said at the Last Supper: "This cup that is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood" (Luke 22:20). And what did the author of Hebrews mean when he referred to Jesus as the mediator of a new covenant (Heb 9:15, 12:24)? And what did Paul mean here:"Such is the confidence that we have through Christ toward God. Not that we are sufficient in ourselves to claim anything as coming from us, but our sufficiency is from God, who has made us sufficient to be ministers of a *new covenant* , not of the letter but of the Spirit. For the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life" (2 Cor 3:4-6)

  • @peteholms9298

    @peteholms9298

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheBiblicalRoots i love learning. and im willing to change my position. Are you going to partake in the live discussion? i think it will be very educational for not only me, but the viewers also. Thanks for your patience with your viewers

  • @karlcooke3197
    @karlcooke31972 жыл бұрын

    Matt 5v19 whoever breaks the least of these Commandments and Teaches others to do so, will be call least in the Kingdom of heaven. So if 1 John 3v4, Sin is Transgression of the Law-Torah. So does it make sense that Torah the Father's( loving) instructions should be done away with. Hebrew 8v13 which part of the old Testament Law-Torah is done away? Yahushua-Jesus is now our High priest Melchizedek, sacrificing Bull and goat's, being circumcised, we are now under the Blood of Messiah. What did Paul say about circumcism of the heart and circumcism of the flesh, Sin is Breaking YAH'S (God's) Law-Torah, Repent turn from Sin stop Breaking Torah. This video mocking 119 ministries. It ain't explain that well.

  • @Oversite869
    @Oversite8693 ай бұрын

    Salvation is confessing that Jesus’ death is our fault through all time. No matter if we were there or not That is Agape Love. Agape Love and The Law of Moses cannot coexist in the brain. If Love is based on commands, then it’s conditional to the commands. If Love is based simply our Agape judgement, then it is unconditional as God’s Love and all commands are fulfilled. Which even if we are at fault, there is forgiveness, instead of judgement in Agape. They can’t coexist in time either because if We showed Agape Love to Jesus, and decided to not crucify Jesus, we wouldn’t have obeyed Law of Moses, and Jesus’ Agape Love wouldn’t have ever freed us from it. Also Agape Love would’ve never been proven supreme to sin and death. So if we keep the Law of Moses, we are rejecting Agape judgement and leaning on our own mental ability to keep up with commands. Which is flawed by the flesh. In order for flesh to obey , judgement has to match Christ’s. Which Christ revealed to BE AGAPE LOVE.