This was used as Jasper's alarm in "Children of Men" Good shit.

Ya, its amazing how many people don't know the REAL history of "Industrial" music....these guys were some of the one's who laid the groundwork.

I saw Einsturzende Neubauten’s first UK gig, supporting the Birthday Party at the Lyceum in London (now home of Disney’s ‘Lion King’ musical!), and later gigs. I also saw Test Dept play at Cannon Street station, and later gigs including three awesome nights at the British Rail Paddenswick Road Maintenance Depot in Paddington to commemorate the end of the Greater London Council in 1985. At the time both band were considered ‘Industrial’. (post 1 of 2)

This was the first video I came across of them, I remember reading the description "REAL industrial" and thinking "ORLY". So it turns out, yes... yes really... It actually sounds like a machine, love it.

Saw them live 2 or 3 times in London, like a Russian Constructivist poster brought to life. Nearly dropped me bacon sandwich and shed a tear, awesome.

Oh, I loved this band in my youth in the mid-80s. and this song i still great

(post 2 of 2) The term ‘Industrial’ originally related to the output of the Industrial Record label from about 1977/8 most notably Throbbing Gristle. I hope that this helps. It’s a shame that no one has video of Test Dept. at Paddenswick Road. I’ve been to over 1,000 gigs, and this was possibly the best.

Is it sad that I almost burst into tears when I saw the video director recapture Aleksandr Rodchenko's photograph "Fire Escape", 1925.

There's an intruder!!! (Children of Men)

I saw these guys play in the early 80s in Toronto. Best show I ever saw. Hands down.

I've noticed a trend in Industrial Bands who had their prime in the 80's. When the 90's came about, they either changed their sound to a more evolved industrial, turned to just metal or turned to rave techno.

Yeah, this video reminds me a lot of Sergei Eisenstein's "Стачка"/"The Strike" from 1925. Test Dept were wonderful both visually and audially.

old classic with Throbbing Gristle, Einsturzende Neubauten and Cabaret Voltaire

One of the best live concert I have ever seen!

No, @Sesquipedaliantique . This is strictly Industrial Music. This is what the term was invented for, for these people, SDK and Einsturzende Neubauten. There is an electronic variant (like Esplendor Geométrico) but they were/are in other line.

I've seen many shows in my days, these guys were one of the best!

Now THAT'S industrial.

one of the most interesting noise bands! memories

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+Vladimir “Trivalia MAKER” Žikić Yes really good noise luv this band!

This is what the 80's was all about.

I don't know what album this version of the song comes from, but the original recording can be found on the Some Bizzare sampler album, IF YOU CAN'T PLEASE YOURSELF, YOU CAN'T PLEASE YOUR SOUL.

great vid from their best album. ah... good memories.

INCREDIBLE and POWERFUL!

Briljant band! I had the privilage to have seen them live in action a long time ago... Effenaar Eindhoven NL

congratulations. today this video was selected by the NYC Punk Rock Evolution Foundation. way to go!

this is the alarm song in the movie children of men!

This and the Compulsion videos were on the back of the CD re-releases of Beating the Retreat and The Unacceptable Face of Freedom.

@christiandolman They are Subgenres. Industrial music is so varied and far spread that anything from rock groups like KMFDM and Pitchshifter, to more techno stuff like Aryia, to stuff like Test Dept falls under the umbrella of "industrial music".

The challenge: record among the working machines themselves in futile harmony. i was a machine tester in my wild youth and attempted to sing along with them, but they alyays had the best harmonics and outlasted my best . . . Spend time among the machines. It is humbling.

Wonderful. Pretty friendly tunes, in an industrial kind of way.

REAL Industrial!!!

cool, interesting and kind of scary. I've always liked this track

This is so great. Found it researching The Art of Noises manifesto by Russolo, which i found from The Art of Noise group. both worth checking out

this is one of the best videos ever made...very intelegent veeeery good..... so powerfull...

Extremly Great Stuff!! Thanks for uploading!

Yes this is REAL industrial complete with machine/factory noises (hence the name "industrial.")

@mikheii Children of Men had an amazing soundtrack... it used King Crimson as well, to brilliant effect.

Really couldn't agree with you more, almost reduced me to tears...

saw these guys early 80's, the ritz NYC.....

The voice sounds very similar to Nitzer Ebb on this track.

Musicially, the roots of industrial are split. There is the noise, and there is the rhythmic drone/chant. Both of these stem largely from Krautrock (e.g. Faust).

\/\/ I will agree with swampman and also say that the bands as stated are not even EBM, but embody something else entirely (ie: the "rave sound") that deserves another designation than Industrial. This is more live noise oriented.

old calassic with Throbbing Gristle, Einsturzende Neubauten and Cabaret Voltaire

ahead of their time!

@iamdeprogram I like this I have recently discovered Test dept. Wumpscut has touches of Industrial, And I am a Big Fan of NIN Also. NIN is not Industrial it could be its own Genre along with Test Dept. and Throbbing Gristle also being their own. They are all set aside in their own brackets each representing their own genre by themselves solo. Each known for different contributing aspect to music. But yeah i would call this original Industrial.

Themematically it is also split; there is the dramatic/romantic and there is the rhythm/body speak. The noise and romantic roots tend to follow each other (TG, Neubauten, Psychic TV) and get up swallowed later by goths like Skinny Puppy, Switchblade Symphony, etc. Then you've got the rhythm/chant groups; DAF, Test Dept. Nitzer Ebb, Die Krupps (first several years anyways before going all lame and metallica on everyone), 242, FLA, Liabach, etc. 2nd group Wins.

excellent!!

my heart beats

feels like i'm IN 1984 - the book, not the year.

the alarm song in the movie Children of Men

Dobra, stara szkoła industrialu-Classic!!! !Poland -England!

uno de los 1ros industriales de la ptmr la banda! .

From "Beating the Retreat" box set.

One Voice! One Will!

I fucking love this one!!!

Ó! Muito bom.

mostro!

Just reiterates the idea that all sound is music really.

i was just listening to an interview with Trent Reznor and he says he is a big fan of Test Department. There's no legit reason to hate on NIN here

13 people aren't hipster enought

@grahamlaur Test Dept, King Crimson, Aphex Twin were all in that movie, pretty cool sountrack eh? Good movie too

how groovy they were :-)

@swampman Precisely, they are not Industrial they are Aggro-tech.

@kombikrajsta I personally cconsider alot of later developments in industrial to be more along the lines of dark dance music, that's not to say I don't like them, just that it's better to think of them for what they are instead of what they're claimed to be, except for NIN of course, they're just alternative music in general.

sweet! children of men is probably the most industrial movie to come out in recent years, considering REPO! was more goth

Why there is Jaruzelski at the end of this clip? What does it mean?

poderoso

different influences. SPK and TG came from post punk and their music nowadays sounds like a precursor to martial industrial. Laibach is part of a broader movement called NSK and their controversy is mostly about using totalitarian imagery - they also influenced from martial music to industrial rock acts like Rammstein. skinny puppy, first two nin albums are just plain old electro. and even Ministry played electro synth on their first albu,

The only things by KMFDM I even think are remotely close to industrial might be a couple of the tracks on the 1984 demo cassette Opium and the 'bonus' tracks at the end of Trust (from the album Nihil) and Wrath (from XTORT). I love KMFDM, but no, they don't play industrial music.

@iamdeprogram Yeah. All too common. I still take the debate, but it's like a fight that can't be won.

hey! is this song just on the video works vhs "program for progress" or is it on another album too? thanx for your help!

@swampman Blame the cybergoths.

Where did they come from?

I have a question. I recently bought a copy of Beating a Retreat from an EBay seller. It has videos for "Compulsion" and "Total State Machine." However, this piece is not on the CD as an audio track. Did I buy a re-release version with this piece missing, or was this originally released on a DIFFERENT album?

I was blessing your comment till you hit Skinny Puppy. Ok, is not the same kind of sick stuff. But STILL not being pop, nor anything similar. (old) Skinny Puppy is mindfucking.

Memories...where's Arthur Scargill when you need him?

Everything that came later was just influenced by one of the above lineages. The originality was all used up at this point. KMFDM, Ministry, Leather Strip, NIN. They all have some decent stuff, but nothingly as highly original as the first/2nd wave of artists from either side of the industrial coin. Hence, EBM.

Deus é pai

Do i hear samples of Kraftwerk in there?

@MutleeIsTheAntiGod :)

@kombikrajsta Test Departement in the days of "beating the retreat" have done "atonal industrial", later in their early days Skinny Puppy have done "industrial EBM", now Suicide Commando, Dawn of Ashes do "harsh EBM"; all of these are not to be compared to atonal industrial where original sounds are produced and maybe sampled, but there are no synth-sounds. I hate categories but they seem necessary.

HOVÁ LETT EZ A ZENEKAR, MIÉRT NINCS SEMMI UTÁNA? NAGYSZERŰEK VOLTAK, SOKKOLÓ VOLT AZ EGÉSZ PERFORMANSZ,AMIT LEDOBTAK NEKÜNK, KIS HÜKYE VASFÜGGÖNYÖN TÚLIAKNAK,ANNO 1986-88.-BAN

musique concrète

Mac Inductrial (ie: "industrial" music that can ONLY be played on a Mac) is sorta lame, in my opinion. Trent Raznor did a neato thing with the IDEA of using a Mac to make AL of Year Zero...but it's good as an EXPERIMENT - not a standard nor staple for the industrial genre!

rofl

HOVÁ LETT EZ A ZENEKAR, MIÉRT NINCS SEMMI UTÁNA?

Memories...where's Arthur Scargill?

@kombikrajsta I love you. Whoever you are, you are a beautiful person on the inside and if you are a girl, would you like to have my babies? Jk, but fuck yes TEST DEPT AND EINSTURZENDE!

Is star wars real sci fi ? no, no it's not.

You're eighteen and trying to teach me what is and is not "industrial" ? You fail, immediately.

NIN es excelente, Test Dept es excelente dejen de pensar que es industrial o no porque eso nunca existió como genero musical ni siquiera conceptual, solo es un nombre que necesita la industria, estas son bandas que experimentan, son verdaderos artistas.

indústria do não

What is the point you are trying to make? Test Department are obviously industrial. They just about created the entire genre along with Throbbing Gristle, SPK and Cabaret Voltaire (and Lou Reed). Test Department made the genre name make sense, because things just can't get much more industrial than this, as opposed to KMFDM, Rammstein and all that stuff people call industrial even though there isn't anything even remotely industrial about them.

wumpscut is humourously bad

Haha, heshter you fail Industrial. Are they labeled Industrial? No? Then they are not industrial! :D