I understand that Tesla is breaking ground with the technology it's developing with Teslavision. However, as a consumer, I don't like that my 2023 RWD struggles to help me park. I'm coming from a 2012 335 and that car, though 12 years old, had 360 camera views that effectively helped me park. I never hit a curb having a 360 camera view but yet, I hear about wheel rash on much more modern Teslas because the parking system is not great. Instead of reinventing the wheel and pushing out blobs before the new wheel is invented, Tesla could easily place cameras in the front bumper and below the mirrors to give us proper 360 camera views. At least in the mean time. I mean does anyone really prefer blobs, parenthesis, or models jittering around instead of a live camera feed? Take the coolness aside and think practical, when it comes to assisting you to park, the optimal solution already exists but Tesla refuses to provide it because of a bigger picture goal. If Elon were my personal freind, or I was a Tesla employee,(maybe even of I owned a lot of stock), I would say yeah, Tesla vision is the future, lets all tolerate the now for the greatness that is coming later. But I don't really care about what's coming 5-10 years from now, I'm trying to park my car that I paid for with today's money. I love my new car BTW, but I can also be objective. Rant over 😊

@Insaight87

4 ай бұрын

of course they could add additional cameras and bring back the senors but I guess they wont since their main goal is to save money.

Thanks! Yeah I was wondering what was wrong with my camera system. Unfortunately scratched a wheel because it’s not very precise.

Coming from a car with no cameras or sensors I am appreciating the blobs helping me park. I might have felt different if I had sensors first.

@TeslaTipsTrips

3 ай бұрын

That makes sense, thanks for watching!

Hello. I notice id you switch to FSD, you will see more (2 way traffic). When on just cruise control, it only diaplay 1 side of traffic (driving side)

@TeslaTipsTrips was wondering if you have done a video on best types of storage devices? I have a off brand ssd in both my teslas but seems to be slow pulling up the footage each time.

Thank u buddy

IMHO both systems seems kinda bad? Will they work at all in snow/rain? My cheapo Ford Focus' sensors works well here in Sweden, even when I got like 10" of snow around the car

@TeslaTipsTrips

5 ай бұрын

Agreed

Interesting to be sure. I have a ‘21 M3 SR+, so it has the sensors and radar. I’ve always figured the cameras are an integral part of what’s shown on the screen. The radar and the sensors don’t “see” trash cans or cones or vehicle types or pedestrians - all of which have always shown up on my screen, driving or parking. Those details must come from the cameras. Also, as you have a ‘19, do you know if the radar is still functioning in those Teslas which were equipped with that hardware? Or did Tesla “disable” radar with an OTA update? Great video! Thanks for showing us the blobs/sonograms!

I think the park assist really shines in a parking lot. It shows you the line so it possible to center your car.

Getting rid of ultrasonic sensors was a mistake, imo. Cameras can't see if they are blocked in snow, ice, fog, heaving rain, especially at night. Might be better if instead of 'blobs' you actually see a live feed on the display, especially when parking in forward movement.

It would be nice if you posted the version number.

@TeslaTipsTrips

6 ай бұрын

Both cars are on 2023.44.30.5.1, I'll put that in the notes. Thanks!

lol you weren’t even that close to that car in front of you at 7:00min you are far too paranoid when parking

what you are seeing is the raw output of occupancy network. it looks less refined but it is far more accurate to where things are in relation to the car. this is more important for fsd or seeing lines/curbs on the ground for parking

@TeslaTipsTrips

5 ай бұрын

Ok, still needs to look nice for the humans ;)

The “blobs” visualization is fine. I’m not sure what people expect to see, it’s not like they are going to make icons and sprites for every object in a garage. The switch to remove USS before vision was on par is total crap. I was considering trading my 2021 MY LR for a performance but this alone holds me back. It’s fine if they think it can eventually reach parity but you can’t rip out the sensors prematurely just to claim a cost reduction to bump the stock price for a quarter. Sigh

i just wish they'd bring back USS (and retrofit models that are missing it)

@TeslaTipsTrips

5 ай бұрын

That would require drilling 8 holes, and a ton of extra work, I don't see that happening unfortunately. Thanks for watching.

This shows compelling reasons to just keep my current car with the sensors for longer than I anticipated before getting a newer model

@AcidGubba

Ай бұрын

Tesla Vision is getting better and better. At first I was a bit annoyed that I didn't have a USS because of the endless delivery time of 10 months. But Tesla Vision is pretty good now. The version in the video is already outdated.

When it rains, the camera for parking or low speed will be useless

@TeslaTipsTrips

5 ай бұрын

Probably

It is definitely really hard for me to fully trust it. Our other car (non-Tesla) has a camera 360 surround view that I trust completely and is wayyyy better.

@Tylerbb8122

5 ай бұрын

Umm atleast Tesla isn’t showing a distorted view I hate 360 view because it’s so distorted as you look around the car and it’s different cameras

@FunStuffBuddy

5 ай бұрын

@@Tylerbb8122not if it’s done correctly then jt isn’t distorted at all

Definitely a big improvement and more to come from what it was before. More accurate. I compared bumper to bumper and it was pretty much spot on.

@TeslaTipsTrips

5 ай бұрын

Good to know, that's has not been our experience with it so far. Thanks for watching!

@SFOtoLIH

5 ай бұрын

Agree. Very accurate for me as well.

obviously getting rid of the USS was a bad idea, same for the stalks. I think I will hold on the Highland until this is fixed. great demo, thanks

@TeslaTipsTrips

5 ай бұрын

I appreciate that, thank you!

Are those of us who have the parking sensors ever going to get these capabilities as well? I could definitely use help with the positioning of the car within a parking spot.

@cheesun124

5 ай бұрын

nope. don't the sensor work ok for parking now?

@Digital-Dan

5 ай бұрын

@@cheesun124 Nope. Side views pretty nonexistent. I have trouble centering.

Switch to reverse gear for blob mode. Then you can stay in blob mode if switch back to drive if stay at slow speed (2mph?) if I remember correctly

@TeslaTipsTrips

5 ай бұрын

Interesting, makes sense, I suppose. That's the behavior I noticed, thanks for watching.

Park assist is improved but it is still not 100%

reviewer goes I'm about to hit this car !!! lmfao 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I am using this feature for some weeks now, i feel it is more accurate and is a good addition in terms of a 360 view. It is not perfect yet, but i believe it is a very good update.

My understanding for the reason for the lack of a true birdseye (360 view) is that the feature is patented. I believe Nissan owns it. Tesla is loath to pay licensing fees when they have so many of the best engineers. So they implemented birdseye as an animation, but still needs refinement. Also needs a camera on front bumper.

@TeslaTipsTrips

4 ай бұрын

Makes sense, since it's such a horrible implementation.

I hate the blobs. I did like when it was more refined. When driving into a parking spot my model Y will tell me to stop. But when I look in front of the car. I’m about 24 inches from the curb and the butt is close to the end of the white lines. I hate leaving my car sticking out that much.

people don't fall for the Tesla Kool-Aid I own a Tesla and yes there's some things I really love about the car it has an amazing stereo after I spent $2000 to upgrade it it handles really well after I spent $10,000 on my suspension so yes now it's an OK car but removing sensors not having Lidar not having radar is a complete mistake!!

Bring back sensors. Period

@TeslaTipsTrips

5 ай бұрын

Yup

You said " uterus " 🤣🤣

lol Tesla trying to spin its lack of a basic 360 camera as some revolutionary technology. My bmw self parks itself perfectly every-time, something none of our teslas have ever done successfully

@TeslaTipsTrips

5 ай бұрын

Yup

Cars with HW v4 have cameras only, but the cameras are 4K, whereas HW v3 has 1080 cameras and sensors. For the cameras only, the system is using real time video analytics to analyze each frame and run it through a machine learning trained model to make decisions. Tesla is pushing this envelop far more than anyone else in the analytics industry (my small company is doing the same analytics but for security cameras). My personal feeling is they shouldn't have dropped the sensors (LiDar iirc), but I understand the reasoning to drop them. Chip shortages are a real issue for the EV industry, and removing the sensors solved the shortage issue they were having in 2021-2022 (6+months delayed deliveries). Yes, the models need improvements (blobs), but this is all software. Training models in my industry takes months for a new analytics model (we have early smoke detection, loitering detection, PPE detection for construction sites, etc), and these are working with static cameras (security cameras mounted to fixed locations). Having a model that works with moving cameras is extremely difficult (we tried to train a drone camera feed - being a small outfit it was estimated to take ~2 years given the compute resources we have available to us).

@TeslaTipsTrips

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for adding a ton of information here, much appreciated!

@raymonddsouza8948

5 ай бұрын

In other words, the product is not ready for use by the public. Once the shortages eased, they should have resumed production of vehicles with the appropriate sensors that provide the experience the customer expects nowadays, while simultaneously continuing to collect the data from all of the cars' cameras, further developing the Tesla Vision models (possibly even using the lidar sensors to help refine the accuracy of the visual-based system), and only switching exclusively to cameras only once the system was really sorted out. Instead, we have this approach, which damages Tesla's reputation with the mainstream, who are not willing to be used as beta testers, and actually holds Tesla back from quicker development to stay ahead of competitors and move the game ahead even more. Sorry for the rant, it just frustrates me.

@xuepingsong5329

5 ай бұрын

Just to correct you, tesla never had lidar, they do not have rain sensors, radar and USS.

Love people like this reviewer who isn't scared to tell the truth about how flawed tesla vision is this is an absolute complete joke this is just beyond even worse than what I thought

In October of 2014 Elon began this journey to have his car drive itself It was 10 years ago, and it still looks cartoonish and amateurish. and I paid $10,000 for FSD good god...

Tesla vision doesnt work properly. It is totally useless. Try this: park your car, leave the car, put a large barrel type of stuff front and rear of the car. go back the car and start it. it needs to move to see the obstacles. what if it is too late? 11:29 that's not wierd. that is tesla vision's normal. it is almost impossible to parallel park the car to a narrow spaces. By the way why everyhing -blobs- around vibrates? are they moving ? is it an earthquake ? :)

My current car has 360° camera view, and depending upon the relative colours and ambient lighting, it's difficult to assess my cars positioning when parking, and my USS system can't detect curbs at all. Tesla's new system clearly outlines the nearby objects that matter which is all I need to know about, and seems capable of doing so in the dark, whereas my current car's camera system is essentially blind. More detailed graphics would be nice, but IMO don't really add functionality.

Tesla removed the ultrasonic sensors to save cost and to keep production up. That is all it was. Most Tesla fans refuse to acknowledge that Tesla would do something like this. These decisions were made during the covid 19 supply chain crisis. Tesla did not want to stop manufacturing cars when parts became unavailable, so they simply removed radar and ultrasonic sensors in order to keep production up. They then tried to place all the functions of radar and ultrasonic sensors on the vision system. It has been catastrophic ever since.