TerraPower: Natrium Reactor and Integrated Storage

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Presentation by Jeff Navin, Boundary Stone Partners (BSP) and TerraPower.
Australian Nuclear Association ANA2023 Conference, held Friday 6 October 2023 at the Aerial UTS Function Centre, Ultimo, NSW.
Introduced by Helen Cook, GNE Advisory.
Abstract: TerraPower is building a 345MWe sodium cooled fast reactor at the site of a coal plant slated to be retired near Kemmerer, Wyoming, USA. Natrium is a step-change advancement in nuclear technology and is specifically designed to meet the needs of a rapidly decarbonizing 21st century grid. Cooled by sodium, the Natrium reactor is inherently resistant to meltdown which allows for a simpler design that both increases safety and reduces cost.
In addition, the heat from the reactor is used to power a molten salt energy storage system, capable of storing up to 500MWe of power for five and a half hours. This makes Natrium a great compliment to grids with high penetrations of wind and solar. The Natrium project in Wyoming will utilize the workforce, transmission capabilities and water from the coal plant slated to be retired, providing a much-needed economic lifeline to a community that has generated power for the US for decades, and enjoys broad local support.
This presentation will give an overview of TerraPower, the Natrium technology, and the project being developed in Wyoming.

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  • @mmandrewa2397
    @mmandrewa23978 ай бұрын

    That's not a bad presentation at all. It was a good point that Jeff Navin made that just one of these plants gives about ten times the energy storage as is currently in all of Australia today. I hadn't realized that. It's really quite amazing. And we could easily expand that. Just add more molten salt storage tanks! I suspect that once you heat up that salt then this energy can be stored almost indefinitely in an insulated tank -- to use whenever you need it. This is a very efficient energy storage technology. It's the only really good energy storage technology we actually have. This is going to be hugely more efficient than trying to store energy in lithium batteries! But of course what really matters isn't efficiency but cost. Perhaps it's too early to say what this is going to cost, since this is a brand new technology.

  • @detectiveofmoneypolitics
    @detectiveofmoneypolitics4 күн бұрын

    0:22 Economic investigator Frank G Melbourne Australia is still following this very important and informative content cheers Frank a 70 year old man and running a "Public KZread channel" can now see a great compelling solution for energy efficiency one word WOW ! 😊 2:39 4:42 10:24

  • @chapter4travels
    @chapter4travels7 ай бұрын

    Once you have a power plant like this there will be no need to replace wind or solar when they wear out. A huge savings!

  • @adriandocherty778

    @adriandocherty778

    7 ай бұрын

    Snow hydro, west gate n metro tunnels over budget!! I don’t believe they’ll close the power stations.

  • @tspidey007

    @tspidey007

    6 ай бұрын

    Once you have MSR power plants, you don’t need wind and solar at all! We don’t need to use up valuable land for these windmill farms and large solar arrays.

  • @chapter4travels

    @chapter4travels

    6 ай бұрын

    @@tspidey007 That's my point. Once the existing ones fall apart/fail, there is no reason to replace them.

  • @dexterroy

    @dexterroy

    6 ай бұрын

    Refueling?

  • @chapter4travels

    @chapter4travels

    6 ай бұрын

    @@dexterroy Uranium is dirt cheap.

  • @andersohlsson3708
    @andersohlsson37087 ай бұрын

    Please, bring these reactors to Sweden a.s.a.p.!👍

  • @christerbergstrom8081

    @christerbergstrom8081

    3 ай бұрын

    Vi har redan bättre teknik än Na; läs gärna på om Blykalla..!

  • @sergiosavicki2955
    @sergiosavicki2955Ай бұрын

    Muito interessante...

  • @voidcomm14
    @voidcomm144 ай бұрын

    Nice

  • @MistSoalar
    @MistSoalar14 күн бұрын

    kinda unrelated, but I think it's time to revert element names like Sodium to Natrium, Potassium to Kalium, etc.

  • @sergiosavicki2955
    @sergiosavicki2955Ай бұрын

    Evolução, gostaria tradução em português do Brasil

  • @davidwilkie9551
    @davidwilkie95517 ай бұрын

    Contractors used to say how customers will remember a bad job and the continuing problems long after they have forgotten what a good job cost. Well it is surprising what a great job Nuclear Power Generation is for the people health and wealth wise and got a poor reputation from polluters getting subsidised rights to cause long lasting problems. And people who have benefited from the Industrial Revolution shouldn't complain about their fossil fuels too much, it's the politics of greed that poisons minds against the necessities of life. This Reactor has great characteristics for placing next to Coal Power as they are winding down, and are an obvious choice for Industries. (We were told rooftop solar was going to do that, then the Goal Posts were shifted) Very interesting presentation thank you.

  • @CapoRip
    @CapoRip7 ай бұрын

    Smelling a lot of "I'm not anti-nuclear, but" in these replies

  • @stanthogerson6714
    @stanthogerson67147 ай бұрын

    why. if you can provide reliable base load power, do we need to integrate it with wind and solar. wind and solar will just screw everything up--only bring back the worries when the sun doesn't shine and the wind stops blowing.

  • @findingthereal9052

    @findingthereal9052

    6 ай бұрын

    That’s politics, you can’t say what is going to happen you have sneak nuclear energy security up on people and let them experience the benefits. Stable, affordable energy, what an innovation!

  • @rogermorey

    @rogermorey

    3 ай бұрын

    Batteries are becoming extremely cheap. The combination of wind and solar with batteries can easily make up for those times. Batteries will be half price from where they are in one year!

  • @peterdorn5799
    @peterdorn57996 ай бұрын

    atrium talks about uranium, can thorium be a substitute?

  • @Krunch2020

    @Krunch2020

    2 ай бұрын

    No.

  • @renzocoppola4664

    @renzocoppola4664

    16 күн бұрын

    Increasing uranium burn is still a step towards efficiency. It seems it's a bit more efficient than conventional reactors without reprocessing. I've not readen about mixing thorium in this design.

  • @SchwuppSchwupp
    @SchwuppSchwupp7 ай бұрын

    Using Natrium as coolant, what could possible go wrong? It reacts to water, but that is no issue. I promise!

  • @Sjb-on5xt

    @Sjb-on5xt

    7 ай бұрын

    Only a problem if it leaks. It's melting point is 98C would turn to hard butter like pliable metal soon after leaking and could capture the leaks in a bath of oil, where it sinks to the bottom. Hope they don't have a sprinkler system installed though.

  • @stephenbrickwood1602
    @stephenbrickwood16028 ай бұрын

    Generation is a small part of electricity costs. The grid itself is extremely costly. 3 to 5times more electricity means a horrendously expensive construction of bigger grid capacity. Add those costs to the nuclear generation costs. I can tell you that you will not be using trucks to transport EXTRA electricity to the ends of the National Electricity Grid.

  • @stephenbrickwood1602
    @stephenbrickwood16028 ай бұрын

    So 25 tonnes of Uranium per SMRs 300mW. 80 SMRs is 2,000 tonnes of uranium. 400 SMRs is 10,000 tonnes of uranium. So 2,000 tonnes at 5% = 100 tonnes at 100% enriched uranium. ??? U-235. That sounds about right for any nuclear industry to produce. 200 countries in the world producing CO2, they will have their own nuclear industries??????

  • @cerealport2726

    @cerealport2726

    3 ай бұрын

    300MW. I'd be very disappointed if it was only a 300mW reactor. Even the first reactor to generate electricity produced about 200Watts. Perhaps you meant MW. The amount of fuel needed for this reactor was not mentioned in the presentation, nor is it on their website, or in the public versions of documents lodged with the US government and associated regulatory bodies. As far as fuel goes, the US government says they will need 40 tonnes of high assay low enriched uranium (HALEU) by 2030, however, it's not clear how many reactors this would be used in, or the longevity of this stockpile, but this Terrapower reactor will use HALEU. Current production in the USA is less than 1 tonne a year, though a new plant is being built to make up for the inability to buy from Russia based company, Tenex.

  • @stephenbrickwood1602

    @stephenbrickwood1602

    3 ай бұрын

    @cerealport2726 Australia exports yellowcake. They have very large ponds to catch the waste. These ponds are in the tropical flooding area and have the risk of bursting and poisoning downstream eco systems. More yellowcake to the world??? Who knows what impacts will follow.

  • @cerealport2726

    @cerealport2726

    3 ай бұрын

    @@stephenbrickwood1602 No current working Uranium mines exist in the topics. Check your facts, if you have the mental capacity. Mining at the Ranger mines stopped many years ago, and ore processing stopped about 3 years ago. Rum Jungle was mined in the 1940s, and this was done very poorly to say the least. Nonetheless, should they ever decide to exploit Rum Jungle in the future, current mining processes would not repeat these mistakes.

  • @stephenbrickwood1602

    @stephenbrickwood1602

    3 ай бұрын

    @cerealport2726 yep, no more mistakes, smarty pants.

  • @stephenbrickwood1602
    @stephenbrickwood16028 ай бұрын

    Will Australia produce its own uranium??? Or buy Russian uranium, or Kazakhstan uranium or Chinese uranium, or USA uranium.?

  • @chuckygobyebye

    @chuckygobyebye

    7 ай бұрын

    Well, they already export a lot of it.

  • @stephenbrickwood1602

    @stephenbrickwood1602

    7 ай бұрын

    @chuckygobyebye Australia exports limited amounts of uranium ore. And only to countries that allow inspections and have signed the treaty.

  • @chuckygobyebye

    @chuckygobyebye

    7 ай бұрын

    @@stephenbrickwood1602 Australia exports yellowcake, not ore.

  • @stephenbrickwood1602

    @stephenbrickwood1602

    7 ай бұрын

    @@chuckygobyebye Yes, I was keeping it simple.

  • @cerealport2726

    @cerealport2726

    3 ай бұрын

    Australia is the 4th biggest Uranium producer in the world. I'd hope Australia would use their own resources, but given the crazy way our politicians behave, who can tell... It's already bizarre enough that it's mined and sold, but is illegal to use in the country, aside from OPAL at Lucas Heights.

  • @mawhim
    @mawhim4 күн бұрын

    So what happens to the waste? What about the plant in 80yrs time? Let's not mention that. How convenient.

  • @stephenbrickwood1602
    @stephenbrickwood16028 ай бұрын

    Warm sunny latitudes do not need cold latitude solutions. 😮😮

  • @stephenbrickwood1602
    @stephenbrickwood16028 ай бұрын

    20million vehicles in Australia. 20million EVs with big 100Kwh battery is 2,000 giga watt hours of dispatchable stored electricity. Most vehicles are parked 23hrs every day. Most vehicles daily drives are 7kwh, and can be topped up daily, ezi pezi. 2 decades to replace all ICE vehicles. One, 1, decade to achieve 1,000 giga watt hrs daily storage. Nuclear electricity would mean 80 SMRs, just to replace existing fossil fueled generation. 400 SMRs for a full electric future. Decades and decades and .... $TRILLIONS and.... Will the government ban 20million rooftop solar PV to protect the nuclear electricity cash flow????

  • @stephenbrickwood1602
    @stephenbrickwood16028 ай бұрын

    Solar rooftop PV is cheaper than windows $/m2. Std windows. All buildings have windows. 20million buildings connected to the Australian national electric grid. PV electricity is not a problem. Storage of electricity is the problem.

  • @hwadongkim846
    @hwadongkim846Ай бұрын

    Radwaste management ..n for 4th generation of nuclear ..Korea take fab n logistic innovation

  • @stephenbrickwood1602
    @stephenbrickwood16028 ай бұрын

    ENGINEERS BIGGEST MISTAKE is to solve the wrong problem. Snowy 2, $2billion is now projected to be $12 billion project and may be a decade late. Engineering can do, but economic engineering it is a disaster.

  • @hans2five
    @hans2five2 ай бұрын

    So one thought that jumped at me at the @9:22 minute mark is that terra power took a struggling community, that would be most hurt by the closing of politically incorrect coal, the coal suddenly shuts down, so they called them up, and now they have a state and community that is bending over backwards to have this new nuclear plant installed in their community. Has anyone looked into just why the 4 coal plants were shut down? Did Bill Gates himself or his donation put any pressure on this? Maybe working through the EPA or federal govt to have the 4 coal plants shut down? The more you know about Bill Gates and how his foundation operates the more you'll see this as possible.

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