There is one enormous feature of M8 that might not seem big or obvious but it runs out of SD card. All samples are streamed - there is no "RAM" for samples. Thanks to that not only you can have stupidly long samples but more importantly they load instantly. Also projects are loaded instantly and even you can preview another project without loading it first. AMAZING. Also it's worth mentioning that this thing is resampler's dream. Not only you can resample anything, export to stems etc, but there is shortcut to resample the patterns at cursor position. Also, like in ableton you can save just project file or export all connected sampes as "bundle" to new location. Those are just some small quality of life things that MOST groveboxes's manufactures don't even think about. It is dream box made by tracker artist that actually uses it and it shows.

Desert Island Instrument is a great way to describe it. I love using the M8 and I would have to agree. If I was stuck on an island with the M8 I would be waving away the rescue boats until I finished my tracks

@MidlifeSynthesist

10 күн бұрын

🏝️ ❤️❤️! (Your comment made me laugh coffee through my nose😂)

What I think makes the M8 special is that the software and user interface both are extremely optimised. It has such a strong community, every little thing is being ironed out. The result is a super smooth experience, no lasting bugs and a razor sharp workflow. This device is unique cause it can truly get you into flow.

@MidlifeSynthesist

10 күн бұрын

Couldn’t have put it better myself! Thanks for watching my friend! Cheers

@fcf8269

9 күн бұрын

Keep in mind that most of the interface is "borrowed" from other projects that are open source; as such many people for many years refined the workflow and everything else around it. That is the beauty of open source projects in the end: someone make something, others work on it to improve it, instead of profit, everyone benefit. Kudos to the person making this device for putting together a bunch of different projects, and make a cohesive package, which is not an easy feat in itself.

@artephank

7 күн бұрын

Which results in speed of use. Nothing is as fast. Thanks to having only handful of buttons, after short while, you don't need to think, you just do. The UX on this thing is genius.

@fcf8269

7 күн бұрын

@@artephank Depends from what you need to do. For some things, yes, it is faster; for other things, it takes more time than if done in other ways on other devices. Remember that this interface was designed 10+ years ago on a 8 bit device called Gameboy...

@artephank

7 күн бұрын

@@fcf8269 I would say that a lot of ideas is from LSDJ, but here it is perfected a lot. Yes, it depends on workflow naturally, but what I really meant is that all things that M8 offers are really quick to do. Especially sample manipulation.

I got an 01 version about three years ago and after a couple months sold off my digitone, digitakt, and analog four. I’m not sure how much more of an endorsement I can give it other than it’s the single most useful piece of music hardware I have ever used.

@artephank

7 күн бұрын

This and OPz, which for some reason I love and hate in the same time. M8 is the best sample mangling tool that exists. If it only have some more (even offline, not realtime) effects it would unstoppable.

@onastick-hu5ss

6 күн бұрын

Wow. Can't believe I never heard of it. Time to buy

I loved its old industrial asthetic with the lo-rez pixelated screen, the bolts and the angular design - but i can see as a device the MK2 is an improvement.

M8 and Deluge. My two favourite music making hardware devices - interestingly, both created by independent individuals who just decided to go ahead and build dream devices. Dirtywave & Synthstrom Audible both put mega companies like Korg and Roland to shame!

@MidlifeSynthesist

9 күн бұрын

Definitely two small giants in our niche! Incredibly inspiring to say the least, gotta love em both❤️❤️

Doesn't sound like it is for me. BUT, your enthusiasm cannot be denied. I enjoyed the video.

@MidlifeSynthesist

10 күн бұрын

Thanks my friend! The purpose if every video is exactly that! Sharing the excitement for cool gear and music❤️

@spdycar13

9 күн бұрын

Yea, I don’t understand trackers or why they are useful devices. I would really like to understand the usefulness.

@renaticoleman324

9 күн бұрын

​@@spdycar13 It depends on how you approach music creation. If you are more interested in performance, trackers might get frustrating. For composition though, you have granular control over how and where your notes are placed, triggered, and behave. Tracks are not instrument specific, so you can easily switch instruments in a phrase (per note if desired). I am not good at performing or playing, but I want to create music. Once you get used to how the menus navigate on the M8 and how to build a song, the interface eventually dissolves behind muscle memory and you can place and tweak notes, synth settings, FX, automation, etc almost as quickly as you can think it. The most valuable thing for me is having a pocketable, battery-operated groovebox with instant-on capability with me literally at all times.

@spdycar13

9 күн бұрын

@@renaticoleman324thanks!

@artephank

7 күн бұрын

@@renaticoleman324 yes, however, M8 is blending this a bit (to be honest Polyend Tracker, too but in other ways - the have their performance mode) by having everything so fast and quick. Even having patterns limited to 16 steps means that you are keep working on very small loops. It is isn't realtime but still very quick.

Can’t wait to get mine! This will be my first foray into trackers so I’m really excited.

@HenleyBailey

9 күн бұрын

It's so good. There's some good M8 tracks to get you pumped in this playlist :D : kzread.info/dash/bejne/hGGXmMyEdLaoXbg.html

Sp404 mk2 is my go to portable beat maker! It's a beast

Mine’s arriving today🎉

I never had or messed with the M8 Model 1 before. But I got an order in months ago for the Model 2 and it finally arrived days ago. I'm not really used to trackers so it's a little of an uphill battle, but I'm starting to understand it. What really stands out for me is the build quality. OMG it's the most solid and satisfying piece of music gear I own. It's truly weighted perfectly and feels amazing!

It would be nice if they would fix the price for Europeans, model 2 can easily end up being 900+ euros with vat and import taxes.

My fav portables are the Woovebox and the Tracker Mini. To be honest after months after the Woovebox I always feel underwhelmed using other devices hehe

Had a model 1 and had to sell it. A few months later I was already missing it so much, I hsd to order a model 2 when they became available for preorder. Can't wait for it to arrive (possibly in 2085)

Love my M8, had the Model:01 and now the Model:02 and can't rate them highly enough. It's the only thing I need to make music with and it fits in my pocket, the output is super high-quality. My Deluge is awesome, so is my OP:1 but I've not used them at all since getting the M8. I think people are put off by how weird the interface looks but after an hour with one you realise it's actually really simple and super-fast to navigate around which is half the reason they're so fun, because your brain is locked in to making music and not how to apply an effect or which menu something is in etc.

The M8 has been a lifesaver for me, being home sick unable to work for over a year now, i keep it by my bed and pick away at songs when i can. At a time when i cant do much it gives me my music back, gives me something for me. I use mine with my zoom h1n to sample my drum kit, guitars And i mostly use it as a sampler than a synth, i never used a tracker back in the day (all cassette 4 track) but i love the interface and found it very easy to get my head around, i love my M8, and i have used it everyday since ive got , i never want to be with out it.

@MidlifeSynthesist

10 күн бұрын

Thanks so much for sharing my friend! I hope you heal soon ❤️ till then, lots of love from one mate to another 🙌🏻

@morrinsville23

9 күн бұрын

@@MidlifeSynthesist thanks dude! Its getting there.. I hope, fingers crossed for lithium! Woowoo

@humankapital2000

9 күн бұрын

@@morrinsville23 I feel for you. From my own experience, I can tell you that there is healing and better times will come again.

@morrinsville23

9 күн бұрын

@@humankapital2000 thanks buddy! ❤️

I travel constantly and the OP-1 Field is my go to device. But, I ordered an M8 and can’t wait to pick it up when I’m back in the States this summer.

i kinda love the design of the first one, feels nice and industrial. Only thing im missing is usb c, which is a fairly big deal

Great video! Model 2 looks classy.

Another unit to check, whilst not portable (without a 65w portable charger) the torso electronics S-4 is mind blowing machine. I use my OG m8 with the s-4 and it's a perfect combo to use on the road.

Cool background tracks :)

@MidlifeSynthesist

6 күн бұрын

Thanks fam🙌🏻

Gave up on getting one as every time I went to the site to order when I received the emails saying open for orders it would have the order/pre-order button greyed out, numerous times, just tried now and still the the same, went for something else.

wow this thing looks so cool

Kudos to all of you who can make music on an accountants peripheral.

@MidlifeSynthesist

8 күн бұрын

😂😂

Model 02 ❤❤❤❤ can’t wait for mine, one more month to start shipping of my batch

@MidlifeSynthesist

10 күн бұрын

Hope it goes by quickly!! It is an amazing device and I’m sure you’re gonna have a hell of a time with it🙌🏻🙌🏻

@LainDoesNotExist

10 күн бұрын

I managed to get in on the Sept batch! Cant wait for the upgrade!

@LarcTald

3 күн бұрын

@@LainDoesNotExist same boat. The bright side is that when it arrives, I'll probably have forgotten about it, so it will be like a surprise.

Looks cool

It’s a beast of pocket music production 🔥🔥🔥

12hrs is crazy! 🤯🙌

@MidlifeSynthesist

9 күн бұрын

🔥🔥

Im waiting on mine in the mail :)

@MidlifeSynthesist

10 күн бұрын

AWESOME!🤩

Hi. Cool vid as usual 🎉 How to compare it with the polyend tracker plus? And with the tracker mini?

I was indoctrinated into music making back in 95 with Fast Tracker ][ and left it somewhere around the early 2000’s. They’ve always held a special place in me and I am very much looking forward to getting a MK2 when the next batch is shipped out. I’m both excited and a bit nervous, worried that it (tracker workflow) won’t click back. We’ll see!

I love mine. It's such a streamlined and easy UI on a massively complex machine. There's nothing like it.

Great video! I’ve been learning this system via M8 Headless and having a fantastic time, (when not mucking about on the Woovebox)

@MidlifeSynthesist

9 күн бұрын

Have fun! Thanks for watching my friend🤘🏻

@MarkMurray

8 күн бұрын

How do you like it versus the Woovebox? And @midlifesynthesist would you ever do a Woovebox review?

@bearfishpie4916

8 күн бұрын

@@MarkMurray I’m finding it a bit harder to learn - coming from the Pocket Operators I’ve found the Woovebox’s workflow (at least at a basic level) to be reasonably quick to pick up. Being able to play notes into a track chromatically live is also a significant benefit from my perspective. That said, the ability to stack multiple effects and conditional stuff onto each note, mix instrumentation on single tracks and the sheer flexibility of composition on the M8 is a big draw

Aesthetically I love the look of the model 1 but I shared your same thoughts on its ergonomic limitations. I just ordered a model 02 as part of the September batch and will part with my model 01 when it arrives.

Theres no better way to drive yourself nuts than this

Ooh, definitely gassing but gonna stick with headless for now! And I realized watching this that my headless setup actually has one advantage! 640x480 3.5" display vs the 480x320 one on the Mk2

Superb video, my friend! Man, mine is stuck in customs forever now. I mean, I can obviously still make music with the og m8, but still 😞

Ordered mine two days ago

Bang for buck portable? The mc101 is a powerhouse. Absolutely adore it, especially with the updates. Combined with an sp404, it's an entire dawless studio. If I had to give everything up those are the two pieces I would keep, and if you got a chunky backpack, you can take that whole studio on the go. Really want the m8 though. I love how trackers make me compose differently.

Recently got a ko2. I've been pretty happy with it , on the go or otherwise. Ive never seen those m8's . Very cool

Looks and sounds very cool! Not sure I could get on with the tracker workflow personally. My main portable device is a little MC-101, which is great for getting track ideas sketched down super quick. I'm not a fan of a lot of stuff Roland has been putting out over the past few years, but the MC-101 is a pretty cool little device!

@MidlifeSynthesist

10 күн бұрын

Thanks so much for watching! The MC 101 has always intrigued me and I’ve heard people make bangers on it! Cheers my friend!

Just worth mentioning the Octatrack is a Tracker

@MidlifeSynthesist

9 күн бұрын

A man of culture🤘🏻 respect✌🏻

@arwpal5961

7 күн бұрын

How is the octatrack a tracker? It uses elektron style step sequencing?

@MidlifeSynthesist

7 күн бұрын

@@arwpal5961 The Elektron Sequencer is actually almost identical to tracker philosophy/workflow. Octatrack has 8 tracks of monofonic instruments/samples and step sequencing, p locking, probability etc. trackers generally do the same. If you grab an M8 or polyend tracker you’ll notice the similarities right away👍🏼

@SantiagoGT15

6 күн бұрын

@@arwpal5961 it’s literally in its name bro, 8 tracks 2 fx per track, step sequencing, sample based… Elektron style sequencing is just marketing lol

@arwpal5961

6 күн бұрын

@@SantiagoGT15 "A music tracker (sometimes referred to as just tracker for short) is a type of music sequencer software for creating music. The music is represented as discrete musical notes positioned in several channels at chronological positions on a vertical timeline." Vertical timeline is central to trackers. Renoise, LSDJ, M8 etc. Elektron gear is definitely step sequencing, or more specifically XOX style step sequencing in the lineage of the roland 808/303/909 which is not a "tracker"

We use the Model 01 as accompanying sequencer/synth to the MC-707. It's a great device, but would love if we could sync manual 707 Scene changes with M8 Line changes. EX: With the 707 set as Master to the M8, and we manually set the 707 on Scene 5 of Bank 1, the M8 will start at Line 04 etc.

For portable groovebox I use: Woovebox, and SP404MK2 mostly (have also a Circuit Track). I feel trackers are different animals…

@MidlifeSynthesist

9 күн бұрын

Lovely setup my friend!🙌🏻 gotta try me out one of them Wooveboxes!

@woovebox

8 күн бұрын

@@MidlifeSynthesist Happy to send you one (no strings attached) when the next batch comes in! 👍

@MidlifeSynthesist

8 күн бұрын

@@woovebox Yooo!! Would absolutely love to give it spin🤘🏻🤘🏻 cheers!

Nice video and I appreciate the reflections on why someone would use this: to focus. I'm currently evaluating the Polyend Tracker Mini and I'm having a similar experience. It's a slightly more tedious workflow compared to, say, an MPC, but on the other hand I have the Mini with me, which makes all the difference. A built-in battery and mic mean I can pick it up and use it whenever. I even took it with me on a one-week vacation trip to Crete and was able to finish two new tracks while on vacation. That would *never* have happened with a Syntakt or an MPC, simply because they're too big and bulky to even consider packing for a trip like that. The M8 mk2 sure looks like a great alternative to the Mini, but for me it's about availability too: the M8 is nowhere to be found in Sweden and the Mini is easy to come by. 😊

@MidlifeSynthesist

9 күн бұрын

Thanks for sharing fam, always great to hear your input🤘🏻 the tracker mini is a great alternative and I think it will probably become alot more powerful in the new coming updates! Long live trackers!

its my favorite tool

The picoTracker is in a similar vein but is its own thing as a portable tracker running firmware descended from the venerable little GP tracker which was written to originally run on low end linux game handhelds. Floyd has done some videos about the pico if you want to find out some more about it.

@MidlifeSynthesist

9 күн бұрын

Thanks for the heads up!! I’ll definitely check it out! Cheers🤘🏻🤘🏻

M8 is probably my desert island instrument too. I've had a recent dalliance into the Polyend Tracker Mini, but if I were forced to choose I would chose the M8 every time. Nice video.

I'm more excited about the Tracker Mini 2.0 update, have you tried it?

I really want one, keep watching the webshop, but not available . Any idea when might be able to order again?

@MidlifeSynthesist

9 күн бұрын

Unfortunately I don’t know, but you can join the Discord/Patreon page to get direct updates! Cheers my friend!

I love the Polyend Tracker Mini and hope you make a video about the firmware 2.0 which will be released soon. Lots of new features!

@MidlifeSynthesist

9 күн бұрын

Absolutely!! Can’t wait for the new updates to drop🤘🏻🤘🏻 thanks for watching my friend!

I loved the "prototype" look of the model 1 :) (model2 look good too don't get me wrong)

@alexanderlane

7 күн бұрын

Same! Haven't used either in person myself but would almost rather the model 1

I actually like to compose on a Nintendo switch when I am away from the studio. I'd like to have something else that can direct export or be easier to record though.

I'm gonna have to install Jeskola Buzz on my handheld PC just to subdue my gear acquisition syndrome. Both the M8m2 and the Polyend Tracker + seem like my kind of toys, but they're expensive.

My toddler's brain hurts thinking of all those digits... ah-ah-ah-oh-oh .... rated G certainly 🤩 Resorted to your (who's else!) first model vid. Few practical questions: - Can it control, midi, and audio to your iPhone 12? (to connect to Korg Gadget for example) - Can it take midi keyboard connected into USB-C and play/record notes - Can I fix synth sound or sample group (drum kit) or any form or multi-sampled instruments to everyone of 8 tracks (i don't like polyend copy-notes idea) or at least when have Inst1 - Is it still mono tracks? does it do stereo samples and synths are stereo, like this new synth (or only fx) - Do the keys make as loud sound as TE KOIII? (so you don't make too much sound at night when fam is around falling sleep and you don't) Thanks m8! (no pun intended) 😁

@samprock

9 күн бұрын

My only pocket groovebox is still OP-Z. Polyend Play+ did not stick because cannot play drum pack (or multisampled instrument) to play Hang Drum (even using several tracks its tedious). Only 3 synths for 8 tracks is limiting. And no battery. And Copy-note approach (should change every pattern sound if want to change sound). Otherwise it was almost perfect 🤣

@atalhlla

9 күн бұрын

For the non-midi questions… - I’m not quite sure what you mean by this, but maybe this will help answer your question? You can create large samples with slices and use Slice Mode “File”. This will set each note from C-1 on up to each slice. This can be used for drum kits or per-note resamples of instruments. There’s some piano multisamples floating out there, for example, one velocity but of each note. I’ve also seen people make drum kit multi-samples like this, and someone on the Discord made a fancy browser app to make the sticking together of such samples easy. These can be played by a Sampler instrument on any track. - Each track is mono-instrument, the synths are mostly mono but hypersyn can have its stereo spread turned up. Samples can be mono or stereo. - The keys are pretty clacky out of the box, being Kailh Choc Browns, but if you’re willing to swap key switches to LowProKB’s Ambient switches and add o-rings or stick foam atop the switch bodies you can get them fairly quiet.

@avrilcadabra

9 күн бұрын

-yes it can midi in out, audio in out, to your iphone, havnt personally used gadget, usually use AUM. -m8 is usb client, it has to be plugged into a host like a phone or computer, midi controllers are generally clients also, so probably not with a host adaptor. -yes you can put sliced samples (which can be drum kits or multisamples) on all 8 tracks, any track can be anything per step. -everythings stereo -maybe similar sound level on the keys to a ko2 ep133, the switches on the m8's can be swapped, if you want quieter ones or really clicky ones. Its probably the same as a laptop keyboard.

i’m content with the model 1 as i wait for my model 2 preorder.

@MidlifeSynthesist

10 күн бұрын

🤘🏻🤘🏻

Wish it was easier to get hold of, especially in Europe… I love trackers and this thing seems amazing.

@renaticoleman324

9 күн бұрын

The M8 is sold directly by Dirtywave, so that's the only way to get it new (and import duties are killer, somewhere between €150-180). However if you don't need the Model:02, now that preorders are shipping the cost of a used Model:01 are coming down. You may be able to score one used for around €550-600. There is also an unofficial "Gear Bartering" thread on the Dirtywave Discord where people sell & trade. That would be the preferred way to find a used M8 in Europe.

@octamedicin

7 күн бұрын

@@renaticoleman324 Didn't know about the discord thread. Thanks for letting me know! Would love a model02, but I'll probably get an OG if I see one.

I want this thing unreasonably badly. For grooving on the go, nothing beats the m8 paired with another device. I use the mc-101, but I want to get an S-1 or god willing a micromonsta.

@MidlifeSynthesist

9 күн бұрын

Amen!!

I that a Beyerdynamic 900 Pro X you're using for headphones? I bought one recently, curious what you think of them.

I have my model 2 on order but I have to wait until September 😢. A little bit worried about wrapping my head around how to work within the 8 track limitation. I need to find some good demo tracks I can load up and look at.

@youcaillou

9 күн бұрын

Same. Ordered mine last Monday. But I got a Teensy 4.1 and started to play with the headless version. It’s pretty good to get you started!

@mrfork

9 күн бұрын

@@youcaillou yeah I've been thinking about doing that just to get used to the workflow but I'm not sure I know enough to attach it to an abernic or something like that.

I have a Tracker mini and love it but ended up pre ordering the M8 model 2 as well due to a bad case of FOMO! … what’s it like going from Mini to M8 !

@MidlifeSynthesist

9 күн бұрын

Awesome !! Though the Tracker Mini and M8 have lots in common, they are absolutely different in feel and sound, I think you’ll really enjoy using then both for 16 tracks of tracker madness🤘🏻

My go to machine on the go is the deluge, or Sp 404mk2.

@bertokleine280

10 күн бұрын

Mine to a specially with the community firmware ❤

@mrfork

9 күн бұрын

@@bertokleine280yeah the community firmware fixed a ton of issues for me. That new reverb in the beta firmware is so much better than the freeverb it had before.

I can say that the M8 is a nice device, and the new one is nicer as the screen is bigger and has some QOL to justify its existence. Although the internals are the same; the software is the same; so you should ask yourself if it is really worth getting one, when you have alternatives like the tracker mini, that just released an upgrade (the plus upgrade), which is free, is a software upgrade and not hardware, and add basically all that the M8 has on a device that has a bigger screen, bigger battery, more powerful hardware and stereo features from the get-go. I see the M8 as a fun instrument that is akin to the old gameboy; but sadly its price is crazy, and I get that some people say that it is fine for them; but with the same money you get a MPC one... or other used instruments, so price IS on the table as something that should be mentioned and compared to other instruments, in the same way we compare the OP-1 not only for how cool and innovative it is. As far as workflow; you can get a M8 headless and plug it to a portable console for a fraction of the cost and lose nothing of its feature; which is a cheaper option (without the stylish case, if you don't care about the looks, otherwise have fun spending another 300 dollars for the self contained unit); or even run something like LSDJ or piggytracker on a emulator, although the number of features is way lower than what the M8 offer, so not even apples to apples in terms of comparison, but the workflow is almost identical to make music, but you pay from 90 dollars to 200 dollars, depending from the portable console you buy, and you can also play retrogames on top of that, as bonus, if you decide to drop the tracker for music. Or you can get something like a uconsole from clockworkpi and run a full tracker on it, as those can run linux; but that is a more complex setup only for certain people, not for the "pick up and go" type of user for sure. I like the new model; great step forward but it is still hard as hell to get one, and that bring up prices on the grey market; so while it is great that there are advancements with the new hardware, it is also sad to see that the main issue of the M8 has not been addressed with the new model either.

The M8 is super cool, but expensive and hard to obtain. So for my poor self, the closest I get is a Miyoo Mini Plus with Little Piggy Tracker (LGPT). It's very similar, but not as nice.

Great review! Just please don't sign. Ever!

@MidlifeSynthesist

9 күн бұрын

😂😂

I've got a tracker mini which I like but it's not perfect. I'm really curious about the m8 as on paper it does tick more boxes for what I'm looking for. I'm not that into samplers like whats on the mini but I like what I hear of the M8 synths. The Mini lacks some funtionality and polish but nothing they couldn't potentially fix with firmware updates. No idea if we'll ever get the tweaks I'd like. The big thing I worry about with the M8 is the interface (This was the big reason I opted for the mini). There are just so few buttons on the M8. The Tracker mini has many times the number of buttons and I sometimes feel it could just do with a few more. The m8 is a beautiful piece of hardware (And a great looking ui next to the Mini) and sounds great. If I get a bit of money it's sitting somewhere on my wishlist but I can see me splashing out soon.

I dont know shit about music theory.... Yet I am tempted to make music in this thing.... I had a Mc-101 and I made some bangers despite not liking the workflow. Do you guys think M8 can be a good instrument for a prson with no musical training? Thanks a lot!

As someone who bought the Tracker mini over the m8 just because i have bad eyesight, I'm very interested to see how much polyend steals from dirtywave's playbook on the 2.0 update coming any week now. We know there will eventually be 8 synth engines, but how will they compare? I have a hard time believing plaits will be beat (even if its unfair to compare since it's open source).

Not really a 'groovebox' per se, but my current go-to handheld marvel is mmalex's 'Plinky'. I wanted an M8 but in the end couldn't afford one. The headless version was pretty fun, but in order to make that work I had to have it connected all the time to my computer. Hardly 'portable'. So I spent what money I did have on a Plinky. These things are great, and have their own sound completely unlike anything else I've heard.

@alexanderlane

7 күн бұрын

If you have the headless already set up on a Teensy, you can get an Anbernic RG351v for like 75 bucks used or I think not much more new and it's a really great platform to run M8 headless on! (And as a plus if you enjoy NES / Gameboy games it can run those too!)

@tomfenn7149

7 күн бұрын

@@alexanderlane Yeah, I forgot all about this solution until I typed M8 and a couple of searches later, YTbot picked it up and recommended this (kzread.info/dash/bejne/iKx6xtGmYrPUp6Q.html) video, which subsequently blew my mind!

@tomfenn7149

7 күн бұрын

PS, Plinky though is still amazing. I think Plinky would make an ideal accompaniment to M8 as Plinky sounds so organic, and Plinky can be used as a highly expressive MIDI controller unit. It's also open source, so what's not to love?

The big question- will it play without glitching in live outdoor shows? v1 tanked a portion of one of my more notable shows. 86’d immediately from my setup in favor of Digitakt after that.

@MidlifeSynthesist

10 күн бұрын

Dude, that sounds like it must have really sucked🥲 I can’t say yet when connected to other gear, but at least till now in isolation it’s been working solid as a rock👍🏼

@avrilcadabra

10 күн бұрын

A lot of us play live shows with M8's, It's one of the main things it was designed for. "glitching" is a pretty broad term. The launch version of the model 01 had an issue that some cable designs could short on the casing, easily resolved by putting tape/sticker or using your own cable. I bring my own cables to venues. That was changed in a hardware revision. Any Other glitch id have to put down to the sd card (under performing, to many files etc) . Feel free to jump on the official discord, will be able to sort it out for you in a couple minutes.

Hopefully an upgrade for headless too? I set up M8 headless on a teensy w/ an Anbernic RG351 emulator gaming running retroarch. Thing works great except the key mapping which is tedious and occasionally fails to load correct map but for about $150 USD total really cant be beat considering you also get a full multi-system, hi-resolution gaming device to play ROM games from 80's Atari to PS4, nintendo and gameboy emulators.

@alexanderlane

7 күн бұрын

So far Headless runs the same firmware, I don't think there's any plans to change that!

wow how much memory does the model 2 cap at?❤🙏🙃

@mikey303

7 күн бұрын

m8 streams samples from the microsd card, so there is technically no memory or time limitation

@MidlifeSynthesist

7 күн бұрын

☝🏼 this! It’s one of its most amazing features🤩

@chaote2069

6 күн бұрын

@@mikey303 awesome thanks

Great upgrade but really wish it had volume buttons.

@MidlifeSynthesist

9 күн бұрын

Maybe model 3?😅 thanks for watching my friend!

For the best groovebox ever made: Caustic 3. Granted, it's an Android app, the developer has given up so you can't get it through the app store any more and have to sideload it but it is, for me, not only one of the best music apps but one of the best music making devices ever made - portable, intuitive but deep, can hook up an interface and keyboard, 14 tracks, full fledged samplers, FM synth, drum machine, song mode, FX, mixing, mastering, it's even got a modular synth and a vocoder! And, running on an android tablet or phone, it's battery powered and has a speaker and microphone! I so wish someone would buy it and put it in a hardware box with some knobs because it would blow everything else out of the water. But sadly it's slipping off into history now and it's a crying shame 😢.

@AdamsOlympia

9 күн бұрын

Caustic 3 was one of my favorite iPad apps before Drambo hit the scene. It was so quick and efficient, far more so than Gadget - which could be buggy at times.

Can you sample audio from the usb c?

@mikey303

7 күн бұрын

yes

@lebronsinclair8012

6 күн бұрын

@@mikey303 thanks for clarifying

Problem is, you can never get one. The pre-order window is like what? 5 minutes? 😅

Great video! I can't wait to receive my v2…I haven't even touched a v1 before, but tried it headless and the interface is so well thought out. It's definitely going to become one of my main tools.

@MidlifeSynthesist

9 күн бұрын

Yooo!! Huge fan of your work fam! If you liked the headless, I suspect you’re gonna love the M8❤️ can’t wait to see your videos on it🙌🏻

Dang! Sold out :(

@MidlifeSynthesist

9 күн бұрын

Hang in there 🤘🏻🤘🏻

As someone who actually wanted an m8 since pretty much after they came out, is it actually possible to buy one these days? Because who cares if it's still unobtainable

While it certainly does cool stuff I just can’t get rid of a feeling that this is programming music, not really playing/creating it.

@MidlifeSynthesist

9 күн бұрын

That’s a common worry I hear people have before using a tracker. While it is definitely more cerebral and intentional than playing a guitar or piano for example, I’d liken it more to playing a musical video game or solving a puzzle than programming. It gets extremely fun and fast the more you get “better” at it and the results are always amazing. I often listen to older tracks I’ve made on trackers and keep wondering how the heck I came up with that stuff. It’s not for everyone though, but I’d recommend giving a tracker a try sometime. Cheers!!

Is there an easter egg game somewhere in there? That would complete it.

@MidlifeSynthesist

9 күн бұрын

😂lol! Haven’t found one yet but I’ll let you know if I do😜 cheers!

These are sold out. 😢

@MidlifeSynthesist

9 күн бұрын

Hang in there! The wait is worth it🙌🏻

Can we load OG Tetris on it? If so, I’m in.

@MidlifeSynthesist

10 күн бұрын

😂😂

Yeah it's hard , they don't even have an ETA on the next batch. Scalpers will rule this launch just like the first.

@MidlifeSynthesist

10 күн бұрын

🥲

@brddork

10 күн бұрын

They just released the most recent batch of preorders last Monday (June 10, 2024). The preorders are announced through the mailing list.

@dzerobeatz

9 күн бұрын

@@brddork I'm on the mailing list since launch and have never received notice. I actually signed up with two separate emails and still have never received any. Yes I check my spam

@brddork

9 күн бұрын

@@dzerobeatz I'm really sorry to hear that. I think there's also a discord that you could maybe join to keep up with updates on it. There was a preorder that opened on April 8th that the email was on the 7th of April, and for the June 10 preorder, it was announced May 10th, so a month before hand. The preorder before *that* was February, I believe... so I think the preorder cadence is roughly every 2 months. The most recent one didn't sell out until the 11th, I believe, so perhaps the next wave will be easier to spot just by checking the website during the early part of August?

@dzerobeatz

9 күн бұрын

@@brddork Thank you I appreciate that, I did just join their discord.

No Terminator 2 theme here ...

@MidlifeSynthesist

6 күн бұрын

This was a major oversight and I can’t forgive myself now that you pointed it out lol😅😱

When you say you’re not getting paid but they send you a free unit that you keep is that not payment?

@MidlifeSynthesist

9 күн бұрын

Hi, no it’s not. I gave a more extended response to a comment just like this on this video comment section if you want to know why. Thanks for watching!

@robotmeadows

8 күн бұрын

that’s like saying you get a company laptop for your work duties but then the company says « actually the laptop is payment enough, we won’t pay you anything else » lol

@Lo_Scum

8 күн бұрын

@@robotmeadows so he works for them? I wasn’t aware of this. Otherwise it is a payment.

@MidlifeSynthesist

8 күн бұрын

@@robotmeadows ☝🏼thank you❤️

@connorcarbon

8 күн бұрын

The effort required to make content like this in 2024 requires money from a company and/or free products that were expensive, we all need to get over this nit-picking about how biased everyone is. Synthube videos are all advertisements no matter what deals or agreements or exchanges or payments or lack of payments were made. Just accept it and, like with any commercial, make your own choice whether you trust the advertisement. Don't harass the actors in the commercials, they're just getting paid (or getting expensive stuff for free, etc) to do their job: influencing the public masses to buy stuff based on how good / convenient / trendy / new said stuff is.

Just out of curiosity, you are doing a good review and that should be appreciated, but when you say "Dirtywave sent me..." do you mean they sent it to you and you will send it back (which would certainly demonstrate your impartiality) or did they give you a $650 piece of gear that you keep? Because saying, "I don't get paid" wouldn't be true then, would it?

@MidlifeSynthesist

9 күн бұрын

I always find it curious when people equate receiving gear at no cost to being the same thing as getting paid. For example: If I gave you a car for you to drive around and pick up people and drive around uber style, that would be a tool for a job right? You’d need to make money doing that job to pay your bills. But if I told you, no, I’m not giving you money for doing your job, but I did just gave you a 6000 dollar car which you might be able to sell a few years down the line after you’re done doing this job, would you consider that, “getting paid”? You’d probably not even take the offer unless you where really passionate about driving cars lol 😜 KZread gear economy is just like that. The truth is, free gear does not pay bills, they are tools for a job that takes many many hours of hard work to complete. I can’t sell the tool because I need to do my job, so if I ever do sell it, it will be probably be years from now at a much, much lower price than what it costs now. If you add the fact that to ship to my country I pay about 25% the cost of the gear in import taxes, then no, I don’t get paid. KZreadrs make their money with Google ads, affiliate links, sponsored videos and thanks to the support of amazing Patreons, but free gear is not an income, which is also why it’s a terrible idea to shill out for free gear (only leads to losing money and credibility). Sorry for the rant bud, thanks for watching the video and hope you gind gear that makes you happy🙌🏻

@JimBo-jf2qp

7 күн бұрын

I think that in this debate, 'getting paid' and 'getting compensated' are often conflated. Did he get paid? No, he wasn't sent any money. Did he get compensated? Yes, he was sent a piece of gear that he gets to keep. Should he get compensated for creating a video like this that takes time and experience? I reckon so. Does the creator of the M8 have the time to create videos like this? Nope. As an audience member, I used to get a bit disgruntled and jealous, seeing all these synthfluencers getting all this 'free' gear, but now I'm like whatevs, they're doing the manufacturers a favour, good for them ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@coresect

7 күн бұрын

@@MidlifeSynthesist You certainly read a lot into what wasn't there, my friend. I love watching reviews, a few have helped dictate my purchases, and of course I know it's a lot of work to produce the videos and reviewers certainly deserve the payment in the form of the gear the reviewers get to keep (when and if they do). I think Benn Jordan was very honest about how it worked for him and was very sad when he got so hounded he ended Benn and Gear. A sad day. My point was about the language. I don't get how reviewers in so many different sectors (all say the same thing, "company X sent me product Y for review - no money exchanged hands and they have no say over the content of this review". That word "sent" is a bit odd. If I ask my mate about that new watch he has on his wrist it would sound weird if he said, "oh my girlfriend sent it to me". He'd probably say "gave it to me" or he'd use gift as a verb if he was American. It was about the language, not the fact you keep the gear. No problem at all about that. I guess I just liked Benn's openness about keeping gear he liked and passing on to other reviewers when he didn't need it, or back to the manufacturer - until then I hadn't really thought about it. Once again, that you keep the gear is fine, great even. The only time I hate reviewers is when Ricky Tinez convinces me again to buy another bit of gear!

@MidlifeSynthesist

7 күн бұрын

@@coresect thanks for the reply my friend. I’m also a victim of Ricky😂 I hadn’t really thought about the language in that way. To be honest the disclaimer I use is pretty much cloned from other KZreadrs I respect, like Ricky, and they would always disclose being “sent” gear, using that language. I guess it’s because it sounds professional. “Dirtywave gave me an M8 to review” sounds kind of strange (as strange as the reverse in your gf example lol). The reason I differentiate getting sent gear vs being paid is because sometimes companies send gear, and sometimes they commission videos. Those videos are paid for with actual money (usually the gear is also part of the equation), and the big difference for me is that those are usually showcases or demos and not actual reviews. The company asks you to make a kind of walkthrough/tutorial and to highlight certain features. It’s a completely different video and philosophy, and that’s why I make a big fuss over paid vs not paid for videos. When there is no payment (not a specific purpose for the video that the company is asking for), the video is 100% free form. Just to clarify so that what I’m saying here can not be taken in the wrong way. Commissioned, sponsored, paid for or not, my OPINIONS are never for sale. There is no gear or paycheck sweet enough for me to say something I don’t believe in in any video. My most valued asset is the trust you have in me. If I ever put that in jeopardy by lying, embellishing or omitting info or opinions of the gear I review, my channel becomes worthless, both to you and to the companies who send me gear, and that’s why I go to these lengths to clarify any doubts regarding the ethics involved here. Anyway, thanks for a civilized discussion and if my initial comment seamed harsh, it wasn’t my intention (as isn’t here either). Cheers my friend!

@D.M.-ui7dg

Күн бұрын

For me the important distinction is if it was sent for review and expected to be sent back or if it was allowed to keep whatever device it is. Same as if something was bought at full price or a discount. Regardless of if a device was intended to be kept forever or sold shortly after any good has monetary value due to materials and labor after all. As long as that is freely disclosed I can take that into account. If, like in the case of some guitar gear reviewers, they try to obfuscate these things I can't remotely trust their opinions.

Already sold out

more and more companies give us USB-C. I feel we are not far from USB-D It's universal, after all ;-)

UNSUBSCRIBED. GAS is at an all time high! Just kidding about the first part. This thing is rad!

@MidlifeSynthesist

10 күн бұрын

😂😂😂 don’t leave me fam!😂

First! 🎉😂❤

@MidlifeSynthesist

10 күн бұрын

🤩🥳🥳🥳🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤩

imagine this INSIDE the analogue pocket

Sold out / Out of stock :/

@MidlifeSynthesist

10 күн бұрын

🥲 don’t give up! The wait is 💯 worth it!

@presc13nt

10 күн бұрын

@@MidlifeSynthesist I really really want it. I just wonder when a new batch would come. Would that be weeks. Months. Longer ? I don't know how these things go / get manufactured.

@PatinaGames

10 күн бұрын

Get on the mailing list, thats how i ordered mine

@dzerobeatz

10 күн бұрын

@@PatinaGames ive been on the mailing list for months since it was first announced and haven't managed to receive and email none the less be able to pre order one

@SoundHole-wz8kx

10 күн бұрын

@@presc13ntmonths… orders after sept and delivery months after sept.

Preeee………face

@MidlifeSynthesist

9 күн бұрын

😂😂 sorry if I said that wrong😜 English is not my native language 😅 thanks for watching !

9:31 Dirtywave / Tim should have scaled his production & fulfillment of units of the M8 to keep up with the scaling demand, especially with the release of the M8 2. I can't stand boutique companies (that don't sell a made-to-order customized product) that make every customer wait months for theirs to arrive just because they don't feel like figuring out adequate fulfillment logistics and shipping. The only thing bad about the world of the Dirtywave M8 1 and 2 is that they don't care about scaling / hiring / coordinating to make sure each prospective customer who wants to purchase one DOESN'T HAVE TO consider buying from scalpers to get their hands on one the week in which they decide to purchase one

Sounds great but man why are all Teenage enggering device 10X the price they should be? Like you can get a surface tablet,free daw and anj ultimate roland cloud yearly sub for the same price as the M8...

Hands down the best portable groovebox imo is the Ipad mini 6, you can do literally anything ( as long as you don't mind a touch screen.

The iPad is a surprisingly competent portable instrument, but it is a love and hate relationship as benn jordan stated in his video

I don’t get the appreciation for USB-C. It’s so much more easily damaged compared with the far more robust USB-B connection. If you’re taking this out and performing with it, I wouldn’t go anywhere near a USB-C connection without a separate guard over it. If someone hits it the wrong way, the device is bricked.

@krazywabbit

9 күн бұрын

Personally, I’ve had a much more enjoyable and expanded experience with USB. How one handles their equipment is an extremely important part of the equation.

Oh man not you too 😢

@MidlifeSynthesist

10 күн бұрын

I’m not sure what you mean?😅