Tekken 8 Kazuya! Is it worth it to do DF2 Counter into PEWGF?

These are only DAMAGE calculations, I'm not considering Oki, Wall carry or anything of the sorts, so keep that into consideration. Also, I said it like 3 times in the video but still, the calculations are heavily towards DOING the PEWGF combo than not, because I'm assuming you will ALWAYS gonna pick up failed EWGF attempts. So yeah, you can conclude by yourselves. For me, It's not worth trying to PEWGF after df2.
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  • @p-brane8251
    @p-brane82513 ай бұрын

    I’ve actually been wanting to mathematically test this with different success rates of pewgf but you beat me to it! Love the content and your stream!

  • @johnysimps1191
    @johnysimps11913 ай бұрын

    Watch some of your online matches on KZread and i wanted to see your POV since your Kazuya is so oppressive. Loved this video but i hope you can post more of your matches with some commentary in future 🙏🏾

  • @lllstripeslll
    @lllstripeslll3 ай бұрын

    Godlike content!! For me I simply try to do it from time to time because it is an unintentional but awesome and rewarding mechanic. But after watching this video I am 100% gonna drop trying to pull it off at the wall :p

  • @johnjohnsonjack7379
    @johnjohnsonjack73793 ай бұрын

    Hey Duelist! Brilliant video as per usual, personally I’ll always go for the PEWGF just for the mental damage it inflicts on opponents as I find they will usually respect my DF2 more when I land it, opening them up to my 50/50’s but I’ll try experimenting with these methods and see how they impact my performance. On a quick side note, would you be interested doing an intermediate/advanced strategy guide for Kaz in Tekken 8?

  • @duelist17

    @duelist17

    3 ай бұрын

    I'm thinking about making a Kaz guide, most likely it will come sooner or later ^^

  • @lenzachi6092
    @lenzachi60923 ай бұрын

    Yeah I love it thanks for the guide

  • @p-brane8251
    @p-brane82513 ай бұрын

    This is a bit of a more abstract point but the time it takes to get good at pewgf combo and maintain a high level of consistency would probably be better spent practicing something else like matchup knowledge. This isn’t to say that you cant practice both pewgf combo AND matchup knowledge, but if time is a limiting factor for you and you aren’t a veteran player with years of MU knowledge you will definitely get more damage output by being able to low parry junkyard or block a snake edge etc than you would if you were able to pewgf combo.

  • @duelist17

    @duelist17

    3 ай бұрын

    This is a very good point! Definitely worth considering

  • @8minato

    @8minato

    3 ай бұрын

    I learn mid match labbing characters isn’t fun.

  • @YT-Ahmed_Jalal
    @YT-Ahmed_Jalal3 ай бұрын

    Pewgf is always best choice to do but need alot of practice for those who is start recently to main kaz so keep it in ur mind if ure execution is not that much skip pewgf and do a stable combo to do not lose maybe round cuz of it BTW nice video bro keep it up❤❤

  • @noname_noname_
    @noname_noname_2 ай бұрын

    Man i wish RA's would be -20 my electrics are 15-17 frames fast and ive been playing on stick for years

  • @psuedotoxin

    @psuedotoxin

    Ай бұрын

    this upsets me. i thought overtime people get faster with electrics. im stuck at 16 frame too dpad doesnt feel consistent to me

  • @razborkaptrsk9428

    @razborkaptrsk9428

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@psuedotoxinbind movement on the right stick. So u would be doing f on dpad and then almost instantly df on stick (bind 2+3 on R1). Ez 13 frame electrics

  • @DeathSh0ck
    @DeathSh0ck3 ай бұрын

    Always​ love​ your​ content​s​ but​bro​ if​ we​ use​ statistic and​ math PEWGF​ combo​ ne​ver worth lol​ because​ how​ inconcistency It​ is.​

  • @pRick7734
    @pRick77343 ай бұрын

    I gave Kaz a fair try and tried really hard to like him but it's just not worth the pain. I'm switching to Devil Jin which quite literally does everything better than Kazuya while still having similar core mechanics.

  • @ANIIizNoGoud
    @ANIIizNoGoud3 ай бұрын

    That mini dash combo is not easy as well because of the df1df2 hitbox

  • @kingenfuuken

    @kingenfuuken

    3 ай бұрын

    Bamco pls bring back the old df1

  • @Anashere_Narrnda
    @Anashere_Narrnda3 ай бұрын

    it's not about the dmg it's about the satisfaction that i feel when i see my opponent goes up in the air after the df2 for me I will always go for the pewgf even if it's gives me less dmg or i drop it and lose the round cuz i don't play Kaz to win i play him to feel the satisfaction of rewarding all that years of hard work

  • @ocaalways
    @ocaalways3 ай бұрын

    what controller do you play on?

  • @duelist17

    @duelist17

    3 ай бұрын

    PS5 Pad

  • @kakhairemashvili7186
    @kakhairemashvili71863 ай бұрын

    👌💪✌

  • @Asdfgdwfbjy
    @Asdfgdwfbjy3 ай бұрын

    brilliant content even tho i hate and dont give a shit about kazuya

  • @ShirudoBureku
    @ShirudoBureku3 ай бұрын

    I thought it was pretty obvious doing PEWGF was never worth it in any real competitive sense and the only people who did just wanted swag points. TBH though the math surprised me a little bit since the damage increase is pretty good when it lands. It's pretty hard to do a proper calculation of it but I can see going for a PEWGF worth it if the +damage from it would kill. A more nuanced and realistic scenario would be calculating whether it's worth going for it when you're behind 70% life and in rage. And even then it would probably *only* be feasible if you're one of those people who have been practicing it for years. That said, it's definitely not worth practicing imo and Kazuya players generally have a weird obsession with wanting to land it. If there's one thing Tekken 8 Kazuya players should actually practice perfecting it's punishing rage arts with EWGF and not ch df2 PEWGF combos.

  • @user-wf4tk5cw4t
    @user-wf4tk5cw4t3 ай бұрын

    I know one thing for sure. Meduse going to be so pissed if people start to recommend this strategy to him LOL

  • @valf0x
    @valf0x3 ай бұрын

    You should lower down the Tekken background music a bit while recording as we cannot hear you well

  • @felipedeandrade
    @felipedeandrade3 ай бұрын

    So Kazuya's hardest and most iconic technique isnt worth doing. Man, that's sad, and for some reason shitty Reina has it to

  • @premiumr98

    @premiumr98

    2 ай бұрын

    and dvj as well, its pretty stupid

  • @felipedeandrade

    @felipedeandrade

    2 ай бұрын

    @@premiumr98 Dvj doesnt have it

  • @premiumr98

    @premiumr98

    2 ай бұрын

    @@felipedeandrade can't he get it off of ch ws3

  • @felipedeandrade

    @felipedeandrade

    2 ай бұрын

    @@premiumr98 Its not the same thing. Ch ws3 is +14 and guarantees a 14 frame electric but with scaled dmg. In pewgs scenario, the follow-up electric doesnt scale and is 13 frames fast