Ted Oakley - Oxbow Advisors - Interview Series 2024 - Luke Gromen

Ted Oakley interviews Luke Gromen on the implications of U.S. debt to GDP.
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0:00 - Intro
0:43 - Is The U.S. Going Broke?
3:00 - Is It Different This Time?
6:15 - Interest Rates - Inflation
14:45 - Can It Be Fixed?
18:45 - Gold/U.S. Treasury Outlook
24:19 - Oil Outlook
28:30 - What Wall Street Can’t See
39:03 - Outro

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  • @RobWilliams007
    @RobWilliams007Ай бұрын

    The US has way more debt now. In the 70’s, the US was a creditor nation, had a trade surplus, had manufacturing capacity and you could support a family with 1 income. Government was only about 8% of the economy and is now over 40%. Not the same America as in the 1970’s

  • @BlueWaterSTAX
    @BlueWaterSTAXАй бұрын

    Well done gentleman. Thanks Oxbow

  • @TheNewCarryTrade
    @TheNewCarryTradeАй бұрын

    Excellent interview!

  • @MacChallenge
    @MacChallengeАй бұрын

    Great interview, mr. Oakley - and excellent choice of guest. Luke Gromen is brilliant and always a good watch. Have now subscribed to your channel. Looking forward to more from you!

  • @TexasRiverRat31254
    @TexasRiverRat31254Ай бұрын

    Thanks Ted! Great interview with a really knowledgeable man.

  • @peggyharris3815
    @peggyharris3815Ай бұрын

    Option 4: Falsify the numbers and proceed with confidence by redefining the meaning of former truisms.

  • @Erikpdx

    @Erikpdx

    Ай бұрын

    Half a percentage point here and there isn't anything in the grand scheme of things when we're talking tipping points of civilizations.

  • @alanmrsic893
    @alanmrsic893Ай бұрын

    He is the best :-) Great guest, thanks again!

  • @marychapman6133
    @marychapman6133Ай бұрын

    Great interview of Luke Gromen, Mr. Oakley! He explains the complex in ways everyday people can understand. Thanks for asking such germaine questions, and showing the graphs!

  • @timothyoherlihy5391
    @timothyoherlihy5391Ай бұрын

    Excellent Mr. Oakley. I have watched you being interviewed several times and was very impressed by your measured ,wise musings. That was an excellent interview and Mr. Groman distinguished himself ; we leave this interview preoccupied and wiser. Thank you, Dr. Timothy O' Herlihy.

  • @ArtTicknor
    @ArtTicknorАй бұрын

    Very interesting interview!

  • @clffeingold
    @clffeingoldАй бұрын

    Great job as always. Very much appreciate your work.

  • @geeeeeeee1504
    @geeeeeeee1504Ай бұрын

    Thank ted and Luke

  • @Tim_Kent
    @Tim_KentАй бұрын

    Forty minutes without talking about the cause of the problem: reckless fiscal deficit spending by Congress. 😱 Even President Jimmy Carter recognised that we need to shrink the size of government. 🤔 Newt Gingrich achieved a budget surplus by persuading Congress to limit spending. ☮️

  • @tellemanndergaertner

    @tellemanndergaertner

    Ай бұрын

    Luke mentions it pretty explicitly.

  • @haldriver1378
    @haldriver1378Ай бұрын

    Thanks Ted!

  • @notgunnadoit7461
    @notgunnadoit7461Ай бұрын

    I cannot believe the patients I have developed after over a decade being in the PMs markets. I have ridden gold since $1,200 and the white metal from $12 bucks. All or most of my buddies are out now and they told me why, they got scared of the manipulation and couldn't hold on. Some regret it now especially after the $2,400 break out. I'm also a student of buying the dips noting the Oracle of Omaha "buy when there's blood in the streets!" After 12 or 14 years it's been actually really working. But my god fellas Silver a a scary ride it's like driving through Mosul or Baghdad in a soft skin vehicle.

  • @jaytan915
    @jaytan915Ай бұрын

    LG was brilliant, thanks.

  • @Stone881
    @Stone881Ай бұрын

    The most important part of this conversation was the recognition that the petrodollar died and its now gold for oil. This is THE significant factor of our time as it relates to economics. And it isnt juat gold for oil, but for all commodities.

  • @YTDataAnalyst
    @YTDataAnalystАй бұрын

    *YT Quick Survey:* For your shared investing ideas, what do you think will be the next Apple/Microsoft in terms of growth?

  • @waynejacobs5241

    @waynejacobs5241

    Ай бұрын

    Hi Mr.Micheal Weebles, from my little experience your profit margin is quite stunning for a beginner. How did you do it; what is your biggest holding; Do you make use of spreadsheets? Thanks if you reply.

  • @divinasi0n

    @divinasi0n

    Ай бұрын

    Scam bots on the loose again. Delete this thread.

  • @lynnesews9725
    @lynnesews9725Ай бұрын

    Very valuable information. Anytime you can have experts do a long talk like this one, the more I understand economics in a current environment

  • @mrchad97z49

    @mrchad97z49

    Ай бұрын

    there has been a lot of "very valuable" information over the past 3 years.. Even longer. And if you wait 1 week, people will be talking about something else. Even just 2 years ago, they said "the latter half of this year, that is when we expect to see it".. Then they said, ummm maybe next year.... Then they said maybe the latter half of next year. And actually, I remember hearing Henry Blodget and Aaron Task discuss inflation vs. deflation way back in 2013-2015?? They were discussing "ripping the bandaid off and taking the pain now, rather than later".. That was 10 years ago! haha

  • @mktwatcher
    @mktwatcherАй бұрын

    Very helpful interview Ted

  • @richdilorenzo8145
    @richdilorenzo8145Ай бұрын

    Thanks again Ted.

  • @langa1533
    @langa153327 күн бұрын

    Yeaaaah, finally Luke has a better mic 😮. Congratulations 👏🏽🎉

  • @mjayy907
    @mjayy907Ай бұрын

    Excellent. Thank you.

  • @jmcmob608
    @jmcmob608Ай бұрын

    Thank you very much...

  • @allencoffland1685
    @allencoffland1685Ай бұрын

    "if the baby boomers die off in large numbers".............think you tangentially touched on some truth there, bro

  • @peggyharris3815

    @peggyharris3815

    Ай бұрын

    Yes. Get them to sign up for Medicare Advantage and then deny care, refuse payment to doctors and hospitals.

  • @stephenburnage7687

    @stephenburnage7687

    Ай бұрын

    He was hinting at (but obviously didn't want to discuss) the fact that the level of deaths per 100,000 population has picked up by 5 to 20% since 2020 (when, in fact it should have dropped immediately after the wave of covid deaths). No one knows whether the run rate is going to drop back to historical norms or continue to increase but it might, conceivably, have a big impact on entitlements.

  • @rglongr
    @rglongrАй бұрын

    These interviews are becoming one of my favorites.

  • @ask_why000
    @ask_why000Ай бұрын

    How about no bailouts (yeah, you read it right “no bailouts”) just let the chips fall where they may. Which kinda reminds me of this thing they used to have, it was called “capitalism”. You’d have to find it in the history books or on the way back machine - because I don’t think it’s a thing anymore.

  • @stephenburnage7687

    @stephenburnage7687

    Ай бұрын

    Do you consider paying entitlements as a bailout?

  • @charlesbrown9213

    @charlesbrown9213

    Ай бұрын

    @@stephenburnage7687 - Interest on Treasurys is an 'entitlement' Is paying interest a bailout?

  • @TheRealDerekS
    @TheRealDerekSАй бұрын

    This was so enjoyable. Been following luke for 3 years now, im picking up what hes putting down. Thank you ted

  • @sptrsttradr4918
    @sptrsttradr4918Ай бұрын

    After 40 years of declining interest rates, it's hard to adjust to the new reality of higher for longer not just because of the Fed but because of market forces that are saying enough already. The future looks challenging to say the least

  • @stephenburnage7687

    @stephenburnage7687

    Ай бұрын

    Now ask yourself, what portion of the house price rises, over the last thirty years, is due to lower interest rates (rather than demographics or simple inflation). Could be as much as 40%

  • @justinwiedeman5017
    @justinwiedeman5017Ай бұрын

    Fed will be a huge buyer of UST. Inflationary? Perhaps, but this is really an issue of Federal deficits and the contribution to "GDP". Take away federal deficits, or reduce them, and our economy is disinflationary and troubled. Enjoyed the interview.

  • @MegaBoolaBoola

    @MegaBoolaBoola

    Ай бұрын

    Production growth or contraction, is different than money supply growth or contraction.

  • @ithomson2672
    @ithomson2672Ай бұрын

    Great interview! We have the same problem in Canada. Over the last 16 years, the purchasing power of our dollar has declined at an annual rate of 7.8% vs Gold. Too much debt.

  • @richdilorenzo8145
    @richdilorenzo8145Ай бұрын

    Yes, the price of getting oil out of the ground is more expensive. But how much of that is inflation itself?

  • @RobWilliams007
    @RobWilliams007Ай бұрын

    Love Luke.

  • @MrJuanete12
    @MrJuanete12Ай бұрын

    What happens to the value of a 10 year bond when the yield goes from 5% to 1% ??? Why would it go to 1%?? GFC/COVID/WAR/BANKING CRISIS...

  • @minnesotasalamander5913
    @minnesotasalamander5913Ай бұрын

    Good interview.

  • @Johnson-Sequoia
    @Johnson-SequoiaАй бұрын

    I'd like Luke and Doomberg to discuss peak cheap oil.

  • @jandejong2430
    @jandejong2430Ай бұрын

    I'm a babyboomer and I'm not volunteering.

  • @14Unow
    @14UnowАй бұрын

    FED has never got an economic call correct. It will be unemployment, when it arrives and tax receipts decline we should be worried. Then benefit costs increase and fiscal chaos starts. The deficit will ballon and national debt rapidly increase. Not enough tax to cover debt interest payments will ensure.

  • @richdilorenzo8145
    @richdilorenzo8145Ай бұрын

    "It hasn't been a problem yet." Hmmmm I would say that inflation is ALWAYS a problem.

  • @MegaBoolaBoola

    @MegaBoolaBoola

    Ай бұрын

    You think that was a problem. Hold my beer.

  • @davidhemsted5372
    @davidhemsted5372Ай бұрын

    Who were the US sovereign bond holders 1940-1950?

  • @noSirIDontLikeIt
    @noSirIDontLikeItАй бұрын

    Luke!!!

  • @notgunnadoit7461
    @notgunnadoit7461Ай бұрын

    I saw the pull back coming, made an order request prior to pulling the trigger, my local JM Bullion dealer had 20 ounces of American Eagle, so Monday I picked up 10 and Tuesday I picked up another 10 for my buddy. Good $50,000 spent. I have some green set aside for gold and silver purchased at every pull back riding this bull and staying on its back way past 7 seconds! Today I'm ready for 2 Maple monster boxes on sale at SD Bullion. I'm not paying the god damn America Eagle premiums.

  • @andrewstewart7425
    @andrewstewart7425Ай бұрын

    Maybe the buyer of the long bond is the passive flow from people’s 401k when they choose the long time frame value fund. They have no clue what that means.

  • @richdilorenzo8145
    @richdilorenzo8145Ай бұрын

    When Jacob Fuger said 25% cash, would short term treasury bills qualify?

  • @stephenburnage7687

    @stephenburnage7687

    Ай бұрын

    I think that is the general view

  • @mariomader8850
    @mariomader8850Ай бұрын

    No mention what stealing russian reserves will do to foreign bond reserve buyers. Will this destroy all trust in holding such reserves with the usa?

  • @stephenburnage7687

    @stephenburnage7687

    Ай бұрын

    Good question

  • @stephenburnage7687

    @stephenburnage7687

    Ай бұрын

    At the minimum, he has to accelerate the move out of UST's.

  • @issenvan1050
    @issenvan1050Ай бұрын

    Treasury yields do follow inflation rather than a supply-demand dynamics!

  • @geedoubleu641
    @geedoubleu641Ай бұрын

    How much money does Oxbow bring in from embedded ads on KZread?

  • @billwalton4571

    @billwalton4571

    Ай бұрын

    I made a million from 10K trading dog coin using x10 leverage, so whats your excuse? Coward trader.

  • @mmm-cake
    @mmm-cake22 күн бұрын

    👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @stephenbush7200
    @stephenbush7200Ай бұрын

    If we try to pay off the debt with inflated dollars then we will follow the path of many other countries. Inflation will skyrocket here and wages will not even come close to keeping up with it. It will plunge most people into serious poverty. Take the Philippines for instance. I have a coin that says one US Dollar on one side, and one Philippine Peso on the other side when it was minted. Then came reckless corruption and unsustainable printing and spending in the Philippines. Now it takes 55 Pesos to buy one US Dollar. I don't pretend to know if the dollar can devalue that badly, but if it did we would be paying here in Texas around $150 for a loaf of bread and around $15 million for an average home, and it can happen QUICKLY. Venezuela went from being the most prosperous country in South America to the poorest in 14 years. The unsustainable paths that the US is hurtling down right now should be front page news on every newspaper. Instead we get coverup and comforting lies to the American people deflecting their realization of GROSS mismanagement of the US on many fronts for a very long time now.

  • @stephenburnage7687

    @stephenburnage7687

    Ай бұрын

    Same with Argentina

  • @Erikpdx
    @ErikpdxАй бұрын

    There are two ways they can "inflate" it away... have high inflation and gdp over a number of years so the debt looks relatively smaller over time - or just print the money and pay everyone back. The government hasn't had to resort to that yet, which means things are still relatively under control and a lot of the sky-is-falling retheric is grossly premature

  • @stephenburnage7687

    @stephenburnage7687

    Ай бұрын

    Luke has repeatedly said that the alternative approach is to significantly lower the value of the dollar.

  • @issenvan1050
    @issenvan1050Ай бұрын

    How is BTC a “real/hard asset?”

  • @soundsnags2001

    @soundsnags2001

    14 күн бұрын

    Fixed supply enforced by the most powerful decentralized network in the world

  • @issenvan1050

    @issenvan1050

    14 күн бұрын

    @@soundsnags2001 What is hard about it? & how many Satoshis are there?

  • @soundsnags2001

    @soundsnags2001

    14 күн бұрын

    @@issenvan1050 Is this one of those games where I do your research for you and you just pepper more questions at me? I'll pass. Just buy gold. Gold is good too.

  • @user-et2fd2di5t
    @user-et2fd2di5tАй бұрын

    Are you people that comment about debt not being a problem,I am waiting for your responses when your taxes double to pay that debt.

  • @wernermesserer4464
    @wernermesserer4464Ай бұрын

    top

  • @peterbedford2610
    @peterbedford2610Ай бұрын

    Don't hold too much cash these days

  • @jimscherer8072
    @jimscherer8072Ай бұрын

    I bought just prior to the pull back. Mr Slammy was waiting. Sorry everyone.

  • @donmarek7001
    @donmarek7001Ай бұрын

    Looks like Ron Paul was right and everyone else was wrong.

  • @tgwtom
    @tgwtomАй бұрын

    🍬🍬🍬🍬🍬🍬Ethel 🙂

  • @wisencareful4645
    @wisencareful4645Ай бұрын

    None of this or a popping of the markets until after the election They will by any means keep the status quo until then After election all bets are off People have until then to prepare Interest rate drop just prior to election so Politicians can sell a coming boom As a Nation we are Broke & need to pay for our Politicians running up insane debt on us Get Gold for sure if your able Our own slackness letting our Politicians put us in this position will cause Huge pain after elections

  • @detectiveofmoneypolitics
    @detectiveofmoneypoliticsАй бұрын

    Economic investigator Frank G Melbourne Australia is following this very informative content cheers Frank 😊

  • @EricsIncognitoAccount
    @EricsIncognitoAccountАй бұрын

    18:01 Isn't that what Covid was trying to actually do?

  • @benetaue
    @benetaueАй бұрын

    Fed will hold all treasuries, your plumber arrives with a whellbarrel and you fill it.

  • @darinthesecularspiritualist
    @darinthesecularspiritualistАй бұрын

    i would be curious as to where the 400 million ounce silver deficit will come from. hello? anybody? the silver tree is bare guyz........... this is not as important as elections in november i understand

  • @user-ev9to4xx2o
    @user-ev9to4xx2oАй бұрын

    After.the.horse have.left the.stable.no.stopping.until the end.of.the.begining 😢😢😢

  • @issenvan1050
    @issenvan1050Ай бұрын

    I hear no discussion of the most important thing: money supply!

  • @jamespier7801
    @jamespier7801Ай бұрын

    I think it’s hilarious that so many people think Gromen is so brilliant. He’s a clown. Bring on Art Laffer if you want someone who actually understands economics.

  • @Seolfor007

    @Seolfor007

    Ай бұрын

    lol. Schiff ate him alive a decade ago. Laffer is a joke. Never saw '08 called it all wrong the whole time. Geez. Monday morning quarter back all the way.

  • @benetaue
    @benetaueАй бұрын

    Ted "useless eaters "not a new idea in full bloom in the desert

  • @peaceandfreedomeconomics8984
    @peaceandfreedomeconomics8984Ай бұрын

    Luke is a bitcoin pumper and thinks bitcoin is the same as gold. Lol

  • @Weetorp
    @WeetorpАй бұрын

    Luke is so obsessed with US debt that he cant see the trees for the forest. He needs to also look beyond the border if he wants to understand the world.

  • @RobWilliams007

    @RobWilliams007

    Ай бұрын

    With the US as the world’s largest economy and being the world’s reserve currency, there is a reason to concentrate many of your thesis from the US. I completely understand that there is a whole world out there and this affects the whole world. I don’t think Luke is myopic on the US, I think he understands the big picture.

  • @alanmrsic893

    @alanmrsic893

    Ай бұрын

    Europa Union has a huge debt and are dependent on foreign energy :-)

  • @paulginsberg6942

    @paulginsberg6942

    Ай бұрын

    That's an unfair criticism I believe.

  • @paulginsberg6942

    @paulginsberg6942

    Ай бұрын

    Europe is a massive mess. Terrible leadership.

  • @draymond5067

    @draymond5067

    Ай бұрын

    Luke's been right on for years now

  • @chrislemieux2747
    @chrislemieux2747Ай бұрын

    Luke's commentary is virtually useless