Ted explains DSD

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DSD is explained by DirectStream lead designer Ted Smith

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  • @metal-beard
    @metal-beard8 жыл бұрын

    Nice Ted Talk.

  • @HollywoodRecordingStudio
    @HollywoodRecordingStudio3 жыл бұрын

    This is the clearest explanation of DSD that I have ever heard.

  • @ILO1969
    @ILO19698 жыл бұрын

    I like Teds presentation. He explains very well how PCM is different (DAC) and why it may sound different than DSD. I did something like DSD several decades ago for digital voltmeter, which was counting pulses in sampling interval to produce numbers. Clocks and precision of analogue components including op amp are very important. So less components there are is better. If you can avoid PCM part altogether it will increase accuracy of reproduction. But thing is in reality music recording and editing are not done this way.

  • @alexandernazarenko4747
    @alexandernazarenko47475 жыл бұрын

    amazing explanation! Ted, thank you very much!

  • @mineralsound
    @mineralsound7 жыл бұрын

    I'm a proponent of DSD as far as it advances demand for higher-quality recordings and playback systems. But since you can't edit or mix DSD without converting it to PCM, its realistic use is largely limited to single-take stereo pair recordings.

  • @SKY13theArtist

    @SKY13theArtist

    5 жыл бұрын

    The Sonoma DAW keeps it all true DSD.

  • @mu_on

    @mu_on

    5 жыл бұрын

    What about multichannel DSD ?

  • @marcusm5127

    @marcusm5127

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's easier to convert it to pcm but not necessary you just need good gear. Most studios don't have good gear but Octave records for example do.

  • @pracheerdeka6737

    @pracheerdeka6737

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dsd with 64 bit

  • @marcusm5127

    @marcusm5127

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@pracheerdeka6737 DSD 64 means 64 x 44,1 kHz. It's 2,8 M samples/s with one bit.

  • @CyrilleBoucanogh
    @CyrilleBoucanogh2 жыл бұрын

    Ted is genius. Always a pleasure listening to him and learning from his deep understanding. God Bless you, Ted !

  • @mcintoshkid
    @mcintoshkid4 жыл бұрын

    und where do i get this machine who gives me native pure dsd to my speakers??

  • @ClayToTreasure
    @ClayToTreasure10 жыл бұрын

    so much noise in this vid

  • @harveytrevino2257

    @harveytrevino2257

    8 жыл бұрын

    Glad I'm not the only OCD one who noticed the hiss.. lol

  • @mu_on

    @mu_on

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well considering all the EM stuff arraying in the lab, I guess that might be the cause. Or the crappy omni from the recorder, or both haha. Have a nice day

  • @hxhdfjifzirstc894

    @hxhdfjifzirstc894

    3 жыл бұрын

    I guess you don't know how dithering works, son.

  • @Bassotronics

    @Bassotronics

    3 жыл бұрын

    Because it's 8-bit PCM with no filter.

  • @Aquatarkus96

    @Aquatarkus96

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@hxhdfjifzirstc894 I would blame anything from chassis fans on the equipment behind the presenter to EMI in the room itself before dithering in this case.

  • @UziMusic
    @UziMusic10 жыл бұрын

    hi paul, the pulses sound like how FM radio is transmitted! is that correct?

  • @UziMusic

    @UziMusic

    10 жыл бұрын

    ***** oh ok thanks, in the example the bit density looks like it modulates in the same way the waves do in Fm transmission, sorry im studying sound engineering and fascinated with the dsd compared to pcm :) trying to learn! thanks again.

  • @EDnemesis
    @EDnemesis5 жыл бұрын

    I have a question? If I want the best product, what kind of hi res music would I buy? Flac, DSD, or MQA, I'm still confused.....

  • @ikaeksen

    @ikaeksen

    4 жыл бұрын

    dsd128 sacd stereo and dsd250 for multi.

  • @380stroker

    @380stroker

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ikaeksen 256

  • @laika25
    @laika252 жыл бұрын

    So what's the easy practical way to listen to DSD? (As easy and practical as buying a CD/popping such CD in a player and hitting "play").

  • @Yozhk
    @Yozhk7 жыл бұрын

    Could somebody please explain this. You need to "noise shape" in order to produce hi-res DSD. You dont need to "noise shape" if you produce hi-res PCM. So what is the point of DSD? In an environment when space for a 192/24, 6ch recordig is no longer an issue - why not just stick to hi-res PCM?

  • @kautkascitadaks

    @kautkascitadaks

    5 жыл бұрын

    DSD Still sounds better. Not to mention pretty much every single dac chip out there are converting everything to dsd on the inside. Simply by avoiding quantization in real dsd gives you better transparency and less possibilities for errors and aliasing to occur. The newest sabres/AKM/ Cirrius logic convert everything to dsd internally. Ti could be the only ones who don't do this only cause they have not released a new high end dac chip in more than 20 years. If people had any brains everything in studios would be recorded as dsd , recoring in low res pcm is just stupid.

  • @chriss881000

    @chriss881000

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@kautkascitadaks om using optic cable. So i dont have to worry about this😅

  • @pracheerdeka6737

    @pracheerdeka6737

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@kautkascitadaks YES I ALSO HAVE LISTENED THERE IS ALSO A 32BIT DSD

  • @jon4715

    @jon4715

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kautkascitadaks However, all the best dacs do PCM only.

  • @kautkascitadaks

    @kautkascitadaks

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jon4715 It can ne the other way around rather. Depends on the maker. Psaudio coverts everything to dsd while weiss engineering does pcm. That is a very uneducated statement thats is in no way shape or form true. As for makers that are more known benchmark agreed in the industry as top of the line equipment. Their best dac comes with es9028pro which is a hyperstream modulator. Most top end dacs (especially Totl products )do dsd and will have no problem doing so. Only lowly mass produced units can not do dsd. My opinion if a dac cant play back dsd its not good.

  • @Nilz4FR
    @Nilz4FR4 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Now I just need a tool how I can filter the right "parts" from my DSD DSF file and convert it to a WAV file I can work with

  • @stafonvoncamron

    @stafonvoncamron

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just use PCM better to do masters in. DSD only used for SACDs.

  • @CrazyAboutVinylRecords
    @CrazyAboutVinylRecords7 жыл бұрын

    What people should be talking about is...are the differences between PCM and DSD audible in such a way that would lead a reasonable person to prefer one over the other? My experience suggests they most definitely are not. If you approach it that way then the differences are irrelevant. They just are not as important as someone with a product or technology to sell you would like you to believe. FUD reigns supreme in the world of audiophilia, and it is that scintilla of doubt that you are not getting "the best" that drives a lot of sales in this space.

  • @westonianblumbard3001

    @westonianblumbard3001

    6 жыл бұрын

    jesaliga "scintilla" I like it

  • @luckymike4590

    @luckymike4590

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well written and said! Amen! with a PhD in digital signal processing, 20 year experience in the design of PC internal computer electronics and 15 years experience in R&D as a professor in the audio engineering field, having owned hideously expensive audiophile systems, I did not understand a single BIT - after listening to the video twice - nothing of all his mambo jumbo sayings. There are 3 kinds of people: Music-philes, Audiophiles and Audio-phools. Kudos to the term Scince-tilla!!!

  • @rejm1161

    @rejm1161

    4 жыл бұрын

    Oh yes it is different , on my system anyway, easy to compare both with a great DAC and system.

  • @judenihal
    @judenihal Жыл бұрын

    DSD is still digital. Digital audio will never replace the audio coming out of an analog mixer. If someone can invent an analog recorder which captures the entire sound spectrum which outputs exactly how the mixing deck outputs the signal this will be the ultimate replacement for recorded audio!

  • @Synth2000
    @Synth20003 жыл бұрын

    Great explanation, thank you very much Ted! That's why many dsd enable DACs sound better in pcm mode. They cut corners in the implementation of the filtering, then put the sticker with the DSD logo, while giving you a half baked version of it. Shame.

  • @louislu1067
    @louislu10679 жыл бұрын

    I have a question. I have a DSD CD, can I rip my DSD CD to my desktop? how?

  • @shemopay

    @shemopay

    9 жыл бұрын

    zhi Lu just make a CD image (ISO) and upload it to WEB

  • @Nightjar726
    @Nightjar726 Жыл бұрын

    I don’t know. I’ve upsampled to DSD 256 on HQplayer and it sounds too soft to me compared to PCM. Also the time domain doesn’t sound right and DSD does sound bigger , but also flatter soundstage wise.

  • @caleguillory5451

    @caleguillory5451

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s why the recordings you listen to in DSD should be available in quad-rate DSD. Upgrade, don’t upsample.

  • @christopherpatefield6150
    @christopherpatefield6150 Жыл бұрын

    Too complex for me. Does the computer record from the original analogue tapes and make it digital before stamping?

  • @nicholascremato
    @nicholascremato6 жыл бұрын

    That's Ted for the video. Now I get it!

  • @cirtap99
    @cirtap996 жыл бұрын

    pro-ject pre box s2 digital .....problem solved?

  • @issadad
    @issadad9 ай бұрын

    What's the story with CDs that are marked DSD on the back but not marked SACD?

  • @jn3750
    @jn37502 жыл бұрын

    Ted explains LSD pretty well!

  • @scottlowell493
    @scottlowell4936 жыл бұрын

    I have both high end and less costly DSD (SACD) players. I have a few "meh" SACD's that don't sound as good as a well recorded redbook.

  • @napalmhardcore
    @napalmhardcore9 жыл бұрын

    I'm no expert (as will soon become apparent, as I only discovered DSD in the last day) but there are certain fundamental points that I don't understand. With analogue I am aware of the advantages probably better than I can explain them, but basically it is a pretty accurate way of capturing things due to the lack of approximations processing entails. It is very directly influenced by the physical source being captured (sound in this case). The argument against digital has long been that if you look at digital representations of a wave, it is comprised of steps that have to be averaged out, therefore it is not a true representation of what went in. However that technology has been being refined so that now those steps are incredibly small and being sampled at a much higher rate. Are we not to a point where the digital representation is more accurate than speakers can actually reproduce? Something that perplexed me even more was reading a review somebody did of a DSD DAC. In this review they talked about converting PCM files so that they may be played back. I thought the point was, the further away from the original source you get, the less real and accurate it is. So if in this scenario the original source was analogue and it has already been converted once to PCM, what is the benefit of converting this to DSD? Surely you are then just reprocessing something that you know to be less accurate than the format you are converting to is capable of. I understand that there are efforts ongoing to have the master tapes from various bands converted directly to DSD. This I can understand, but I don't understand how converting PCM to DSD is beneficial. Maybe I've just misunderstood the concept.

  • @dvamateur

    @dvamateur

    9 жыл бұрын

    You see, PCM is actually a three-step process (not two, as most videos explain). The first step is sampling, getting a sample of a signal, say every 8 thousandth of a second (sample and hold circuit anyone? Sorry, I digress...) The second step is quantization, which is the "stepping" you are refering to, and approximating the values with discrete numbers. The third step is coding these values to binary. So, in the end you end up with one big code, 0 and 1, which go at 150Kbyte/sec rate for a CD. This is 1.2MBits/sec, so the bits are going with the frequency of 1.2MHz through the electrical cable. So, it's almost up there with the 2.8MHz sampling rate of DSD. I am not sure if I explain it well, because I am not a teacher. One thing for sure though, the reason we send the 1 bit pulses via cable, is becuase the electrical cable has inherent noise. So if the pulse is louder than the noise, we can easily isolate it and pick it up in the back to analog recovery stage. That's why digital audio practically has no losses when transmitted via not too long of an electrical cable, compared with analog audio transmission. The reason the conver PCM do DSD, is as the man in the video explains, is for practical and economic purposes. A CD quality audio is 44.1KHz at 16-bit, and the DSD is 2.8MHz at 1-bit. So, the sample rate is 64x higher, but the resolution is 65,000 times lower. Now when you do 4-bit DSD (as the man explains) instead of 1-bit DSD, you almost get rid of that inherent quantization error of the DSD (tendency towards noise). Anyway, for all practical purposes, these are both 1-bit streams in the end. With very fine resolution. That's why when we record our voice digitaly (without data compression) and then play it back, we hear our voice the same way as we hear ourselves when we were speaking. No coloration, in other words. Analog has a tendency to color sound in a pleasing way. Data compression has a tendency to color sound in a very nasty way. If you use low bit rate MPEG-1 Layer 3 (a.k.a MP3) you will sound as if you had an asthma basically. I personally can't stand analog in the vinyl format, 'cuase I don't like crackle-crackle-cracle. Analog tape is fine with me, because hiss doesn't bother me. I guess it all comes down to when and with what you grew up. I love Compact Cassete and CD. Teenagers today love distorted compressed (dynamically) the hell out of the recordings. So, if you go for what you like, you're likely stay in the niche and be ridiculed by most. Sad thing, you can't change mainstream public. Millions cannot be wrong, therefore Justing Bieber is the best musician in the world, currently, objectively speaking. Subjectively speaking we might have different tastes. But I digress again. Yes, whether it's PCM or DSD, the bit stream is so fine, that if the recording is done right, it will sound good on analog tape, linear PCM, and DSD. Heck, it will even sound good on ATRAC (1/5 Sony data compression) or 320Kbits/sec MP3. But if you go lowere than that, it will start sucking. So music is about the contect as well as the recording medium. So I guess we're back to square one... I told you, I am a bad teacher.

  • @napalmhardcore

    @napalmhardcore

    9 жыл бұрын

    Andrew Piatek "I told you, I am a bad teacher" Well, you took the time to try and I got the gist... I think :) I had just assumed that with converting something that was designed to be played back in PCM, the best you could possibly hope for is something that is as good as just playing it back in PCM. Anything else would surely be artificial enhancement (for example on my sound card there is something called the crystaliser which boosts the dynamic range and does some other trickery to improve playback of low quality files). So are you basically saying it is more about the conversion process? In regards to the analogue vs digital thing. I'm a vocalist and guitarist, so I am familiar with analogue colouration and even distortion and how it can be desirable. Low quality digital or worse... clipping sounds nasty. I've always thought of artifacts heard in low quality digital as sounding like rushing water, maybe it's just me. By your last paragraph I assume you are not queuing up for DSD, or have I got the wrong end of the stick?

  • @dvamateur

    @dvamateur

    9 жыл бұрын

    napalmhardcore Sorry, I made a mistake. DSD has 32.500 times lower resolution than 16bit PCM, not 65,000 times. Now, when it comes to digital audio, you always talk about "recovering" from digital signal to analog on the Digital-to-Analog conversion stage. That involves many things, like analo filtering and such to smooth out the signal. So it really doesn't matter much if your DAC is using PCM, or DSD, the quality of the filters and clock synchronization are probably more important. And lastly, the regular 44.1kHz 16-bit CD format is so good, that with properly recorded and mastered music material, it will sound fantastic, as long as you have decent DAC. And no data compression of course. To me data compressed human voice sounds as if the speaker had a bad case of asthman, and the hi-hats sound like pshswessswwshh thing. It's horrible in other words. I remember when I first time heard MP3 files I was shocked that people don't notice those things. But I guess not everybody is attentive to music or sound the same way. And yeah, I am queueing for the Sony ZX2 Walkman.

  • @napalmhardcore

    @napalmhardcore

    9 жыл бұрын

    Andrew Piatek Seeing how my wallet has anorexia I think I'll have to wait and see what happens with DSD.

  • @Coilaman

    @Coilaman

    9 жыл бұрын

    Both DSD and PCM are digital formats so as long as you don't lose any data, it's just fine to do the conversion. However, I am puzzled because DSD is a 1-bit format and PCM can be a 16-bit or a 24-bit format. How can you do a proper conversion without losing data? Really puzzling and that's why I stay away from DSD. Additionally, DSD has ultrasonic noise that PCM does not.

  • @rezathenightfly
    @rezathenightfly4 жыл бұрын

    I wish this video was recorded using the "DSD" format. ;)

  • @cardtrix1970
    @cardtrix19702 жыл бұрын

    I think DSD is just another component to get some to spend yet more money on audio. I do 't believe most people can hear a real difference between high sampled digital & DSD. How many formats do we need?

  • @AndrewBell
    @AndrewBell7 ай бұрын

    Lol at the audio on this. The background hiss is deafening

  • @riccardobiemmi2103
    @riccardobiemmi21033 жыл бұрын

    Very fascinating, although now I am even more confused ')

  • @okay1904

    @okay1904

    3 жыл бұрын

    The English have a word for such contorted explanations - waffle, or better still "hot air"

  • @YouNexus3
    @YouNexus36 жыл бұрын

    If you would like to see expanded support for DSD on android devices, take a look onto this feature request: issuetracker.google.com/issues/73956275 Comments are surely welcome!

  • @waedi73
    @waedi733 жыл бұрын

    Can I sell DSD cables ? 1m only 3'000 bugs

  • @okay1904
    @okay19043 жыл бұрын

    This implementation of DSD reminds me of the spiel of proprietary schemes like MQA (s oil) I could not understand a word of what he said. Everytime someone says something cannot be measured, I am a bit uncomfortable with such assertions. As we increase sampling rate, high sample rate PCM @ high bit depth, will approximate DSD, and any differences will be negligible (if such differences truly exist). I had written the paragraph above - simply out of my own laymans reasoning, and lo and behold, I checked the Wikipedia page for DSD, and it has this paragraph included : "Because of the nature of sigma-delta converters, one cannot make a direct comparison between DSD and PCM. An approximation is possible, though, and would place DSD in some aspects comparable to a PCM format that has a bit depth of 24 bits and a sampling frequency of 88200 Hz.". Then in another youtube video from PS Audio, their Gus Skinner - Audio/Music Engineer/Producer says he would not wish to have more than about 30 multitracks in a DSD Mixing session, as it would end up adding too much noise. I could imagine a similar issue with high sampling rate PCM projects, where there would be a similar accumulation of any noise above the audible range, i.e noise which we humans would not hear, but which would at the very least compromise total noise. But this is always going to be an issue with any multitrack system - multiple microphones, and multiple tracks, will increase the noise, for example if one records an orchestra with a single pair of microphones, or records an orchestra with a final mix of many microphones, the multi-track version will have accumulated noise and less dynamic range, from the total number of summed up noise in each track. Not a new problem and somewhat a common issue, so DSD mixing and PCM Mixing are somewhat having similar issues in that regard. Ultimately these are issues that we will always have and the best solution is not to do all the fancy filtering, but rather to capture as is and play back as is. To improve quality - lets do the obvious 1st, double sampling rate in the Case of DSD such as DSD 128 or in PCM use 24 bit 88 khz sampling as the minimum, and achieve similar results. MOst people do not have the kind of gear and listening environment that would make any appreciable difference in discerning a difference, so IMHO, just stick to what works for most people - PCM , which is so much easier to work with at the mixing and mastering stages. I doubt if DSD will ever become significant, in pop music, therefore DSD will remain the preserver of esoterics, the snobby ones, most of whom are old enough not to be able to hear any difference anyway, cos by the time you have made enough money to by the esoteric playback speakers, amps, listening room, and DSD recordings that only a few people can appreciate, you are most likely old enough to have lost the ability to hear anything above 14Khz anyway - So why all the bother. Shakespear said it most elegantly - DSD is simply much ado about nothing. Higher bit rate and higher bit depth PCM is more than good enough - 24 bit @ 88.2 or higher is more than good enough PCM, and so much easier to mix and master than DSD, needing no specialised gear.

  • @georgeniculescu

    @georgeniculescu

    2 жыл бұрын

    i do agree. but i have some anecdotes about the same song sounding better in DSD, as the same song in a different format, listening with EQ/DSP active. obviously DSD playback voids all the eq/dsp and still the sound is just full, punchier, better. there is a bit of magic at work there :)

  • @LizBarbarian
    @LizBarbarian2 жыл бұрын

    DSD good! Before this moment, while you not see audio file size!

  • @parentheseswebdesign4866
    @parentheseswebdesign48668 жыл бұрын

    DSD Is played via downloaded websites only so it's never truly yours to own, is this correct?

  • @j7ndominica051

    @j7ndominica051

    8 жыл бұрын

    You can own unprotected DSD files and play them in a media player. There are SACD rips available for download, and some vinyl transfers done by people with a DSD ADC. It used to be the case that SACDs couldn't be ripped because of DRM, but that is a property of the disk medium and not a DSD stream. Due to 2 to 4 times larger file sizes of DSD (depending on compression), this format is less likely to be streamed from cloud websites any time soon. Editing or remixing said files is somewhat inconvenient, because you have to convert them to PCM, which is a lossy and computationally intensive process. The DST compression used on some files is also very slow (slower than h.264 and monkey audio to put things into perspective).

  • @parentheseswebdesign4866

    @parentheseswebdesign4866

    8 жыл бұрын

    CD Quality is the same as high rez expensive marketing ploy. You can't hear the difference between CD and high rez. It's a fact of life.

  • @parentheseswebdesign4866

    @parentheseswebdesign4866

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Paul McGowan I have a 750D Moon and 820 psu & 740p. £60.000 hi end speakers. I listened to the flagship moon dsd but my thoughts were that it simply sounded like a loudness button had been added. I like owning my own material and browsing the collections. Ipad scrolling is like owning thousands of books that are hidden from view and easily forgotten about.

  • @francesbernard2445
    @francesbernard24454 ай бұрын

    Playback audio is not the same as it used to be.

  • @tomekichiyamamoto2177
    @tomekichiyamamoto2177 Жыл бұрын

    It’s like a switching power supply? No? Isn’t it?

  • @alexandre7634
    @alexandre76342 жыл бұрын

    For now, only Daw that allows you to work with DSD is Pyramix

  • @aussie_philosopher8079
    @aussie_philosopher80793 жыл бұрын

    I rekon go to hd tracks.com and download 24 bit/96k or 24 bit/192 khz. But DSD is interesting and still has its place especially with dynamic range compared to 16 bit cd 44.1 cd.

  • @Saul_Goodman_Criminal_Lawyer
    @Saul_Goodman_Criminal_Lawyer6 жыл бұрын

    I Truly believe in everything what he said, because of he's long beard.

  • @danielshade710
    @danielshade7103 жыл бұрын

    My tone obsessed guitar player friend changed something every week in his rig and no one but him could tell. From the concourse at the sports arena in the beer line....do you think he’s using Dimarzzio super hot deluxe double wound vintage pickups right now? Uh.....no. That’s a sample. At some point you’re just better representing string noise, snare buzz, violin scratching, snot whistles, huffing and over emoters. Yes yes we all love a pristine sound.....

  • @bobzdar9442
    @bobzdar94428 жыл бұрын

    didn't get it

  • @380stroker
    @380stroker Жыл бұрын

    So how do we weaponize DSD for huge military contracts? $$$$$$$

  • @geocarey
    @geocarey5 жыл бұрын

    Good video. One question. What the hell is DSD?

  • @Paulmcgowanpsaudio

    @Paulmcgowanpsaudio

    5 жыл бұрын

    PDM en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Stream_Digital

  • @380stroker

    @380stroker

    Жыл бұрын

    DSD is just a fancy way of saying LSD. Ted is still living the dream.

  • @Mrch33ky
    @Mrch33ky6 жыл бұрын

    Slop space! That's the ticket!

  • @geoff37s38
    @geoff37s383 жыл бұрын

    Clear as mud.

  • @roiheenokofficiel
    @roiheenokofficiel5 жыл бұрын

    THIS GUY IS AMAZING I LIKE IS STYLE GENIUS

  • @isaacluxsignifer5297
    @isaacluxsignifer52978 жыл бұрын

    alien contact,

  • @meh11235
    @meh112353 жыл бұрын

    Landscape recording of pressure mediation... Ai and quantum computers can mix it lol.

  • @danielraju4458
    @danielraju44583 жыл бұрын

    The sheer intuition this gentleman possesses when he talks about how PCM uses dynamic element matching with randomised errors to compensate for any error during the translation process sums up his genius. So, even though I get the time-invariant waveform in terms of energy to be perfect by patching up the errors, that doesn't necessarily mean it translates well into the energy associated with frequency bands in the s-domain and therefore, the phase of the signal, which is why PCM sounds artificial and sterile comparing to analog or DSD.

  • @Meteotrance
    @Meteotrance10 жыл бұрын

    my only problem with DSD is the lack of AD converter avaible at a reasonable price for the common musician users, who created music today, you miss the target, every good artist, now record at home or in live, with there laptop and good 192khz 24 bit PCM like RME or Protools converter, come on, we are not in the 80's era of the master CD, and king studio, now DSD can be avaible on online shop, no need of physical SACD for this.

  • @mlombaers

    @mlombaers

    9 жыл бұрын

    One of the most importand reasons DSD is not much (if ever) found in the project studios is that mixing and processing DSD in the digital domain is still a pain in the proverbial ass. This makes it way too costly for the budding sound engineer to set it up in his own li'll shed.

  • @Meteotrance

    @Meteotrance

    9 жыл бұрын

    it's also almost impossible to apply some DSP without converting the DSD source file, in PCM DXD so no advantage to this, unless you where able to work with real analog gear, and without touching anything digitaly.

  • @derbigpr500

    @derbigpr500

    8 жыл бұрын

    +mlombaers The main reason is: the budding sound engineer who has a little studio in his little shed doesn't produce high quality music anyway, and there's no point in having DSD anyway, he won't gain anything by using DSD is he's using cheap mic's, cheap A/D and D/A converters, produces usually electronic music, etc. DSD makes sense for studio labels who produce high quality acoustic music, with top quality mics, preamps, etc. and record the music in properly build studios.

  • @michiellombaers3198

    @michiellombaers3198

    8 жыл бұрын

    +derbigpr500 Well, a budding sound engineer for pure acoustic music can do a lot with just one quality stereo set of microfoons and one good pre-amp & AD combination. Actually, the more basic your set-up the more you'll benefit from the enhanced stereo image you can get with DSD. That quality recording rig can be assembled for under €3000,- (really, been there done that) Serious money, but doable. Still remains the rig you need to edit the audio, and that is a whole other ball-park

  • @Meteotrance

    @Meteotrance

    8 жыл бұрын

    for the cost of one converter yes it's under 3000 dollar, but you don't have a good multitrack AD/DA with, and it's not paying you the Shoeps, Royer, DPA or Brauner microphones this technology deserve ^^, for less we can have decent DSD quality with a RME and in PCM 192 KHZ 24 bit recording even or 96 Khz.

  • @dereksewkumar07
    @dereksewkumar074 жыл бұрын

    "All this to compete with a turntable!?!?! ..The idea of a DAC is to plug old mid 80's tech so it can sounds .. best for today's audio system & hi res ..etc!! d🤕

  • @kevinbeckenham3872
    @kevinbeckenham38725 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for explaining what DSD is. Could we see more Ted Smith and less of Paul, Ted explain things better.

  • @luca12957
    @luca12957 Жыл бұрын

    1:09 First, it doesn't matter that the graph looks like a wave form. It isn't something that i have to understand, the computer has to, so it can appear in any way. It's not a plus. Second, that likeness you're talking about is not even real: you drew the red line, it is not rappresented like that in the stream at all. 1 means the amplitude has increased compared to the previoys cycle, 0 that it has decreased or has remained the same, so there are lots of spikes and therefore lots and lots of noise. In conclusion, the example is pretty but completely wrong and misleading

  • @cardtrix1970
    @cardtrix19702 жыл бұрын

    ...way different than L S D!

  • @lennybarentine6425
    @lennybarentine64252 жыл бұрын

    People like Ted are why we don't live in caves.

  • @380stroker

    @380stroker

    Жыл бұрын

    People like Ted are why you live in Tyranny and are oblivious.

  • @johnyang799
    @johnyang7995 жыл бұрын

    At the end of the day it's the final product that matters. Unless the measurements are better, it's all useless.

  • @Lasse3

    @Lasse3

    3 жыл бұрын

    We somehow think we can boil it all down to a small handful of measurements, we ourselves came up with, and that these parameters we have discovered is the entire picture. Let me tell you, we have only graced upon the surface of this..

  • @stafonvoncamron
    @stafonvoncamron3 жыл бұрын

    (OK) MP3 = 92k, 128k+ (GOOD) CD / WAV = 16bit 144K (BETTER) DSD / SVCD = 16bit 196k (BEST) PCM / DAT= 16 bit or 24bit 196k or higher.

  • @marcsmithsonian9773
    @marcsmithsonian97734 жыл бұрын

    This Guy should nevet use deep frier to make frenc fries neither explain dacs...

  • @raffiequler7510
    @raffiequler75108 жыл бұрын

    Dr. Mark Waldrep hates DSD because of all the ultra-high frequency noise and I agree with him. PCM files are clean and perfect. DSD files are dirty and noisy. That's why they sound like analog tape and analog tape is noisy garbage with very limited dynamics.

  • @raffiequler7510

    @raffiequler7510

    7 жыл бұрын

    ***** PCM never sounds sterile. The problem is your shitty DAC.

  • @youwhatmadeidk

    @youwhatmadeidk

    7 жыл бұрын

    Raffie Quler oh no not you again

  • @youwhatmadeidk

    @youwhatmadeidk

    7 жыл бұрын

    ***** very forward of you, sir

  • @BennieWilll

    @BennieWilll

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's not about the dynamic range, it's about capturing an analog sound wave.

  • @AFKAwesome

    @AFKAwesome

    5 жыл бұрын

    How can you be an audiophile and a meme?

  • @jaapaap5
    @jaapaap57 жыл бұрын

    go to a live concert and you will NEVER get less than about 40-50 dB of noisefloor. in your music room you NEVER get less than 30dB of noisefloor. so people that think that good sound is all about s/n or dynamic range, simpy focus on the wrong thing. and the artificial way of removing the noise for digital "clean" sound is one of the main reasons audiophiles dont like it. it's like looking at a complete white wall - pastel colors are just finer to look at.

  • @jokonst
    @jokonst6 жыл бұрын

    So much effort just to make it sound like...an analog vinyl record!!! Are we missing the point here?

  • @paulanderson79

    @paulanderson79

    5 жыл бұрын

    No. Vinyl is never going to compete with uncompressed digital. I like vinyl a lot but it's compromised

  • @pracheerdeka6737

    @pracheerdeka6737

    4 жыл бұрын

    Vinyl is compressed with pure sine wave BUT dsd may be uncompressed with SQUARE wave.. where sometimes does error on 0 to 1 signal formation.

  • @ThatMineMe56Dude
    @ThatMineMe56Dude8 жыл бұрын

    DSD seems a lot like PWM. Interesting.

  • @ThatMineMe56Dude

    @ThatMineMe56Dude

    8 жыл бұрын

    Hitashi son so DSD is like frequency modulation but using pwm. It seems really familiar with how VFDs operate.

  • @ThatMineMe56Dude

    @ThatMineMe56Dude

    8 жыл бұрын

    ohhhh

  • @lexindigital
    @lexindigital5 жыл бұрын

    These guys will die and understanding / shaping of audio will vanish while we are trying to progress things further from analogue. And then some time later just like with the pyramids everyone goes - how did they do it with such basic tools back then?! People and their knowledge do die, the need for such tech becomes less relevant with time, and gets forgotten... Shame.

  • @380stroker

    @380stroker

    Жыл бұрын

    Nonsense. Only NPC's believe this. Government gate keeping exists and will continue to exist.

  • @milojenikolovski7522
    @milojenikolovski7522 Жыл бұрын

    All this was simple in analog studo, when you want to transfer a real sound-energy wave to digital code this is what you get a lot of experts who try hard to explain a simple record with modern DAC from Sony, magnetic track si the most natural way for human brain to listen a music, analog music is far better, but fast speed of life in this world makes digital much more easy to consume... On the end of the day music should be a pleaser not sci-fi-dsd-hi-res-bla bla bla...

  • @user-eo5po5sp9k
    @user-eo5po5sp9k5 жыл бұрын

    Тоналната динамика е преекспонирана или е мъртва! Липсват студийните настройки на всеки един инструмент и това води до гаден звук, колкото и да се повишават битовете и "качеството" отделно е признак, че някой в студиата покрадва изпълнителска интелектуална собственост … Иначе привет на ДСД :)

  • @Mario_Terzi
    @Mario_Terzi3 жыл бұрын

    You ungently need a hairdresser!

  • @iheartcomps
    @iheartcomps9 жыл бұрын

    Schiit Yggdrasil is a way better engineered dac then this crap magic fairy dust dsd dac for half the price!

  • @derbigpr500

    @derbigpr500

    8 жыл бұрын

    +iheartcomps And you're an expert at electrical engineering to be able to tell that... haha.... PS Audio has been around for decades, they're one of the best in the industry in terms of engineering.

  • @raffiequler7510

    @raffiequler7510

    8 жыл бұрын

    +iheartcomps Schiit Audio is just that. Shit.

  • @youwhatmadeidk

    @youwhatmadeidk

    7 жыл бұрын

    iheartcomps Schiit does some decent Schiit. But a better DAC that PS Audio stuff? I'm not fan of PS Audio, but looking at recent Stereophile review of the Yghdrasil - is is further away than PS Audio at recreating the original waveform. In fact, one of the worst ones I have seen, visually it looks similar to crossover distortion in a class A/B amplifier. I don't how Schiit has managed to fuck its output up that bad.

  • @fatasianone
    @fatasianone4 ай бұрын

    Here after Paul’s new vid

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