Personally, I love the display on the M33.

The NAD M33 is fantactic with two subs integrated via Dirac Live. You take off a bit in the top with the Dirac filter and subs are perfectly integrated. I have made different Dirac filters for turntable input, CD/SACD and streaming. You switch between the Dirac filters with the app and use the app to turn the subs on and off depending on how much base you want for the recording you play now. Works perfect!

Thanks for the video

I agree with you guys, that the M33 can make guitar riffs sound edgy and thin. I borrowed the M33 for a week and tried it with my Dynaudio Contour 3.4 LEs which tend to have a laid back mid-range so the M33 made it worse and the electric guitars just had no power. Otherwise it was a very cool amp, but does not bring the right tonality for Dynaudio. My Hegel H160 sounded much more neutral. Now I changed my speakers to Dynaudio Heritage Special and the mids sound juicy and just right. Just play some Metallica, Megadeth or Opeth and you’ll hear if the guitars sound right. Now I’m looking for a more powerful amp and looking into this Technics model so thanks a lot for the review!

@ralphonsnowflakes8665

2 жыл бұрын

Bro let us know what you decide on. I'm wanting to power 6 klipsch speakers simultaneously and I'm usually listening to rock music like you. There is so much to look at its overwhelming.

Excellent review. If I may, I'd like to make a recommendation for a speaker review. I would be interested to know what you guys think of the Gershman Studio 2. Especially how it sounds with amps in the league of the Technics SU-R1000 and the NAD.

This was great, very comprehensive and thank you 🙏🏼 Would be interesting to compare the Technics with others more similarly priced/marketed integrateds (per se) like the newer Accuphase and Luxman amps. Don’t know why I even wonder? Maybe someday I’ll make the cash in time to enjoy such products while my hearing is still capable!

I don't want the amp to take the edge off of the recording as that's the speakers job imo.

were you guys level matching the speakers to be consistent with the two amps?

The whole point of room correction, is to adjust the sound back to the "perfect" central seating position triangle, balancing the sound back into the room. It's no wonder the soundstage appears wider without it on - the sound is just being thrown out there irrespective of room. It is a shame you didn't talk about frequency response with room correction on, that is the whole point of it - a (hopeful) tighter and more controlled bass response, better separation in mids/highs.

The Technics SU-R1000 is a collectible - think of it as a LaFerrari. The NAD M33 is like a Porsche or McLaren 720. If you're in the market for a NAD M33 and can afford the SU-R1000, you're buying the SU-R1000 while they are still making it. I would be more curious to compare the SU-G700 to the NAD M33.

Just saw this. I had the M33 in the house for about three months and sold it. I currently have the Technics g700m2 in house (which is less $$ than the M33) and it's not that close. The Technics is a much more engaging listen, and I'm using a couple of pairs of $15-$20K speakers and comparing it to some high end separates.

M33 is very hard to beat for value for money. I own a M32 and when I have the budget buy the M33. Not saying Technics isn't an awesome amp!

@donpayne1040

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah..no..what I gather is that the Technics SU R1000 is better.

It would be nice to see some measurements. This will show how the amps behave when the load increases. The Technics may stay cleaner when the speaker load drops to 4 ohms and below. Whereas the NAD, distortion rises when the load gets difficult. Great review. 👍

@therealshanelee

3 жыл бұрын

Could care less of measurements. If it sounds good to me that’s good enough. I’ll let’s the other guys measure.

@kevonmanuel

3 жыл бұрын

@@therealshanelee I was not trying to say you needed to do measurements. I would have liked what was causing the slight harshness on the NAD vs the Technics. I agree, if it's pleasing to your ears, that's all you really need.

I hope you guys can review a Yamaha AS-3200, and try to compare it to Hegel, Technics etc...

Hello, thk can you do the same with Denon PMA 110 vs Technics SU-R1000 without accoustic calibration??

have you heard the NAD C399? is has some of the features that the M33 has but at a much more affordable price. im sure there's many people out there that haven't got 5k to spend on an amplifier.

I was under the impression that LAPC (Load Adaptive Phase Calibration) has more to do with how the amplifier interacts with the impedance load of the speaker. It's confusing to say the least.

@therealshanelee

3 жыл бұрын

We threw up the full description on the screen when we were taking about EQ.

@ericliu2727

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, LAPC is not room correction

@ivanterekhov5369

2 жыл бұрын

Impedance and phase.

Nothing matches to the design of Technics,just perfect.

Wondering how the Denon A110 would fare vs. Technics and NAD.

@therealshanelee

3 жыл бұрын

It's coming.

@drplot1

3 жыл бұрын

probably not very well

@raphaelmeillat8527

3 жыл бұрын

@@drplot1 I'm not so sure personally. A110 conception looks quite promising IMO.

Whats up guys, another great review: The missing link here is vinyl playback: Technics has a unique take on that to match their turntables: I think this would be a great sway in someones decision their spend the SpareChange on the Technics. As you you, I am not a vinyl guy, but you need to add a turntable to your review mix to really make this review more accurate.

@jaaron788

2 жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing. They left out one of the biggest values of the Technics. If you don’t take about the vinyl play, that would cost you another 5000 to match, you’re not giving a true representation of value. Tech ices is a better value if you’re into vinyl.

I really like the Michi X5 S2.

Did you run the test signals on the Technics? You don't just turn it on or off.

Once you start using a AN-E speaker then you will hear 5x more difference between the 2 amps. I recently heard the su-r1000 on a AN-E speaker, and it was one of the best combinations I have ever heard. It makes the m33 sound digital/weak, once you get up to a AN-E spe/he model. Also the source needs to be 10x better to truly understand that the Technics amp is really a 25k USD amp in disguise from around 6 years ago.

The NAD is Class D which is known for a edgy top end. The Technics is easier on your ears. The phono section on it is incredible and one of the best out there. The room correction on the NAD is more focused on 400hz and below. It typically tilts the low end to boost. Depending on how well you did the room correction will affect how the sound. I recently heard the Technics and it was one of the best receiver I ever heard. The DAC on the Technics is a little better too.

@therealshanelee

2 жыл бұрын

I take it you haven’t heard the NAD and just making a general statement about class D amps. And I’m sure you haven’t heard both side by side.

@revelationsoundstudio

2 жыл бұрын

@SpareChange I have heard the NAD and almost bought it. But the edgy top end is due to distortion and filtering is used by companies to reduce it. I have not heard them side by side but I know the character of both. The digital amp design Technics came out with is very impressive

Is the nad m33 with subs is better than the technics??

Im using the M32 to power my B&W 804D3s combined with the DB1D subwoofer for music, movies and video games. I was wondering about upgrading the M33but don't know if it is worth it?

@therealshanelee

3 жыл бұрын

The new amps in the 33 are suppose to be a big difference over the 32.

Good review, but didn’t answer the million dollar question. Is the Technics worth almost double the price of the NAD? Is the sound of the Technics $4000 better than the NAD?

@therealshanelee

2 жыл бұрын

Depends on how much you value the improvement. $4000 to you might be a lot. It might be spare change to another guy.

So, the Technics is the better amp overall. Thank you!

Did you use an actual microphone for the m33 Dirac?

lapc has adjust before use ,if i read correctly

Great review as always. I am kind of torn between buying the Technics SU-G700 and NAD M33 though. Should I go with technics for the better sound? What do you think? Thx guys.

@Turtleback8024

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t think you’d go wrong with either of them. I wouldn’t know which one to buy if I had the money. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@sdemosi

2 жыл бұрын

Get the technics and an sl-G700 too. You then have a best in class CD player, a networks streamer and a beautiful integrated amp with a smooth full sound. I actually thought LAPC made a difference with Focal speakers so I'm a bit surprised with this review.

LAPC is not room correction. Dirac is a completely different beast. There is no room correction on the technics.

But, at $9500, one could argue the Technics is way underspecced. At that price point, we are talking about Gryphon Diablo 300 level type amp. And as the name suggests the Gryphon has 300W into 8 ohms and 600W into 4 ohms, is not even close. Plus, it sounds good too.

@peterprimes497

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, but for at least 7k more than the technics, though

@Rascallucci

Жыл бұрын

@@peterprimes497 Not in Hong Kong it is not. US$10K all day.

great zappa tshirt

Is it really possible to get Dolby Atmos from Disney+ or HBO Max?

The NAD is full of bugs. Try to enable subwoofers and listen to the song "waste" by Rhye and you'll notice a clipping distortion when subwoofers are enabled. Also, you can't adjust the subwoofer levels using the M33. I've had it and returned it after a couple of days...

@rumporridge1

2 жыл бұрын

What are you running as your main set up now? I’m torn on looking for an end game amp. Looking at the Parasound JC 5 and a JC2 BP or this Technics SU-1000. Want an amp that can last the times and be handed down to my son.

@ebarbie5016

2 жыл бұрын

@@rumporridge1 MiniDSP SHD + two Purifi based monoblocks by VTV. For me, this is truly end game hifi system (Roon support is coming soon, currently using Volumio)

@rumporridge1

2 жыл бұрын

@@ebarbie5016 thanks and appreciate the quick help. Diving into the info as I’m typing this. Be safe and Merry Xmas.

"review"

I'd take the NAD with treble adjustments on the high end. Save 5 grand towards speakers

What a $10K amp would do I don’t understand. It’s just money trap for the rich people who literally cannot spend enough money.

Once upon a time NAD was easy to listen to. Simple, warm and relaxed. Now they are overly sophisticated, clinical, and unreliable. Unfortunate.

Even when you like Technics you cant give them 100 % credit..typical %

@therealshanelee

3 жыл бұрын

Explain yourself.

@larryhazelwood5491

3 жыл бұрын

@@therealshanelee its just that even when Technics gets praise there is lots of buts.I have a vintage Technics SE-A5MK2 power amp paired to a pair of Technics SB-M3 monitors.wish you could hear them.both over 30 years old and still going strong.

@therealshanelee

3 жыл бұрын

@@larryhazelwood5491 we praised the NAD too "but" we had the Technics on hand for comparison. They both get a "but". Everything gets a "but" there's no perfect piece of audio gear.

@larryhazelwood5491

3 жыл бұрын

@@therealshanelee Technics is the Rodney Dangerfield of audio.they get no respect.Try and find a rare Technics SE-A3MK2.300 wpc with peak power of 1500 wpc.that's an amplifier.

@larryhazelwood5491

3 жыл бұрын

@@therealshanelee check out Andrew Robinson's review.

The Yamaha AS-3200 wins hands down

@Turtleback8024

3 жыл бұрын

The video is about the Technics SU-R1000 & the NAD M33. Didn’t see a Yamaha in this video.🤷🏻‍♂️

@themaskedsingercucucachu8225

3 жыл бұрын

@@Turtleback8024 it was invisible, and sounded invisible too.

@GeoffParsons1469

2 жыл бұрын

Thx 4 your opinion...

You. Guys are hung up on edge and soundstage 👎👎👎👎

@therealshanelee

3 жыл бұрын

It's the most notable difference. Hence why we're talking about it 👍👍👍👍