Gotta redo this with new points

Any chance of a update with the new suggested point changes?

Can you repeat your national restrictions?

How do you rate the Finnish T-72FM2?

@forwarnedforarmed220

3 ай бұрын

I find the fins, a bit of a hard one to rate as its unique to them, while its a good tank for them id put in the same category as t72b or 1 higher based of the skill and range as it allows you to blitz and use range to engage other similar class tanks. it is also a good QRF tank for the fins and as well as bumping up pts for sweeds for use for reserves.

What are the three S tier? M1, T55AM and what the last one?

@forwarnedforarmed220

3 ай бұрын

T55

What about Merkava?

@forwarnedforarmed220

3 ай бұрын

at the end

Not sure I agree with grouping the Soviet T-72 and the T-72M and putting them on E. The T-72M is a great way to put down a lot of cheap and nasty AT21 (sabot) on the table - which is what makes the Soviet T-62M such a good pick.

@forwarnedforarmed220

3 ай бұрын

If it was V1, I would agree with you, but with all the new added ATGM weapons readily available in V2 I Don't see a place for them on the comp scene when the T72b is a much better tank, especially for Warpact

@lucianaurelius2418

3 ай бұрын

No T-72’s just suck especially the M literally just take Spandrels

@ausaskar

3 ай бұрын

​@@lucianaurelius2418 The armoured car with FA1 and no moving RoF, not to mention the limited availability of 1 unit of 3 in Div Support +1 with a BTR or BMP Battalion? It ain't it chief. If I had to take AT21 HEAT, it'd probably be with black box Raketenpanzers.

@wozja

3 ай бұрын

T72M for the Czechs are still relevant i believe. The discounted price AT 21 platform with range and it can be spamed for the Czechs

@lucianaurelius2418

3 ай бұрын

@@wozja yeah no

You rank the 2A4 an A but the ASU an E???? You do realize you’re playing Team Yankee not wargame Red Dragon right?

@forwarnedforarmed220

3 ай бұрын

The ASU is a poor tank, it can only be found in 2 formations, can not be taken as black box, does not have the cross, a poor weapon as it AT is 14 and heat, a single leo2 could defeat 10 of them. on the other hand a leo2 can be a 1 drop reserve unit can plug gaps, assault infantry and has the skill, cross and tac move to get in and out of danger.

@lucianaurelius2418

3 ай бұрын

@@forwarnedforarmed220 IT HAS 2 SHOTS and is like 1 ish points a model! U take it to counter Leo 1’s and IFV. Idgaf about Leo 2 it’s a sitting duck begging to be ATGM’d

@forwarnedforarmed220

3 ай бұрын

it may have rof 2, but its still outmatched, as I said it good for ambush and IFVs that is it. where would you rate it.

@lucianaurelius2418

3 ай бұрын

@@forwarnedforarmed220 for the role it fills for being dirt cheap and A rating it’s filling a T-55 role except even cheaper and double the shots it’s designed to counter nato Leo 1’s for the money. Any Pact player would agree

@forwarnedforarmed220

3 ай бұрын

I will have to strongly disagree, these are the reasons why, 1. it's the same prices as T55 which are far superior to the ASU and they can do any role. 2. the ASU is only good on the turn it ambushes; from there it is easily countered. why it's a one trick pony. 3. most soviet players favour horde style tactics for tournaments which is why you will hardly see them in use in tournaments. 4. it's only available to VDV formations. 5. look at the kanonpanzerjager for West Germans which is much better on paper but has draw backs being a support choice similar to the ASU which just beats it for the ranking. 6. It has a AT 14 heat gun which is useless against most tanks, yes it may be ROF2 which is why its not an F. 7. to rate it an A you have to compare it to every other tank and I don't see it beating any of the d class tanks. 8. Its forward firing which can easily be countered and flack by leo1 which have a better range, skill and cross to manoeuvrer over terrain. 9. most pact players if faced with choosing between ASU and T55 for the same pts will pick the T55