Team Driving in Truck Driver Training is a Bad Idea

Jeananne reflects on her training at CRST Van Expedited and their unsafe business model that uses team driving students.

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  • @rickyrick1966
    @rickyrick19665 жыл бұрын

    In the first place nobody should be able to be training other drivers unless they've got 10 years under their belt

  • @NitaBGormetSauces63
    @NitaBGormetSauces635 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for proving I'm not crazy....we need to tell the truth....glad we are sharing .....it is caring...Thanks aging....

  • @KevZen2000
    @KevZen20006 жыл бұрын

    Get the experience, and move on to a better opportunity. The first two years, are in general the hardest.

  • @Loud_Thinker
    @Loud_Thinker7 жыл бұрын

    i was supposed to start training with CRST in 2weeks and have been doing my research, found your video EYE OPENING Just graduated from truck driving school myself and no CRST for me. Thank you, God bless, be safe!

  • @jaysoncaldwell3896
    @jaysoncaldwell38965 жыл бұрын

    Honestly, I don't know how companies like swift, Werner, c.r. England and Steven's stay in business. They have a few good trainers and a lot of bad trainers.

  • @thomask5218
    @thomask52185 жыл бұрын

    Your story about the trainer sleeping instead of training actually happened to me also .It drove me to the point that i left trucking....thank you for your honesty as this dangerous situation has to be exposed.

  • @daylight1168
    @daylight11688 жыл бұрын

    I'm not a trucker but always found it interesting. I found your video by accident. Found it to be really informative and well done. Safe travels. :))

  • @gsdlines4690
    @gsdlines46905 жыл бұрын

    newbies training newbies, its been that way for decades, sad but true

  • @lauriesworld7008
    @lauriesworld70085 жыл бұрын

    A CRST driver hit my truck at a truck stop in Kansas City lol, glad your safe now!

  • @gladhand4969
    @gladhand49695 жыл бұрын

    It's the same way with solo companies. The trainers are paid the miles the trainee drives. Hence, from the very get-go, all I did was drive all night. We were on a dedicated account. So we would pick up a load in Dallas, TX, drive all night to New Mexico, and then make stops and deliveries in New Mexico during the daytime, then drive back all night to Dallas, hang out at the terminal, go eat, and take showers, and then do the process all over again. When we ran to New Mexico, we did it at night and when we ran back to Dallas we did it all night too. Guess who was the all-night driver and who was the driver that drove during the daytime and made all of the stops? Anyway, that's all I did for six weeks and I literally didn't learn a damn thing that I didn't know already before. While I made my trainer, who never trained me and who didn't know much more than me, in any event, a bundle of money. So when I went over the road as a solo driver I had to learn everything on my own. How to trip plan, how to find and park in truck stops, how to back up to loading docks, everything on my own. When I think back how green I was, it is amazing to me that I made it with so little training but luckily somehow I had enough common sense to do it on my own. But that first year wasn't easy.

  • @mohamedsadik8210
    @mohamedsadik82106 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot for sharing your experience , so that new drivers and CDL students will not go through terrible and dangerous situations like you did with the team trainer, much love and respect to all women truckers.

  • @1982moore
    @1982moore6 жыл бұрын

    I'm curious to know if you're still driving? Believe it or not I'm a CRST driver now. I understand what you went through and was blessed with a great trainer. I think I might become a trainer because these new drivers need to know that they're the most important freight on the truck.

  • @terencewulff5685
    @terencewulff56855 жыл бұрын

    All of this STILL goes on!

  • @TexasBulldog74
    @TexasBulldog745 жыл бұрын

    Im starting with CRST in a week and ive been watching a lot of video's but this one is very important and valuable. The "Team Driver" aspect of it has me very concerned if I made a bad decision or not. Thanks for sharing.

  • @vhvostik
    @vhvostik5 жыл бұрын

    I had prior experience when I went through my training with Swift, but I had little experience with OTR (I drove local mostly) and no experience with ELD/Qualcomm's. My trainer was always in a hurry and I didn't learn some things until I got my own truck because he insisted on doing a large part of the trip planning and Qualcomm input. Looking back, I wish he would've had me do everything and coached me along the way. But, instead, we were always rushing to fit things into his schedule and not making time for me to really learn.

  • @jpslcut
    @jpslcut6 жыл бұрын

    She is right on the money. I was a month in school and the day I graduated, they gave me a truck and a student. I got .36 cents for every mile I drove and .36 cents for every mile my student drove and I really didn't know crap about trucking. I was just 6 weeks more into it than my student at that time. I did it for 4 years and then quit that company and I do not wish them well. I am lucky to be alive, not to mention so many others on the road who never knew. They would take people who had been in the United States for a week and begin to train them to drive a truck, when some of those same people grew up without electricity, without any modern convention, who had no concept of mechanics. Their introduction? A Freightliner! It was one of those unfortunate souls who in the midst of traffic cones and barrels traversed the median. I suddenly awoke to headlights penetrating my sleep, but this guy never broke a sweat. He just drove around the construction. Never mind it was into oncoming traffic. And yes, he intended to get back over to his side of the freeway afterward. AND THE COMPANY I WAS WORKING FOR ACTUALLY INSTRUCTED ME TO LET THIS GUY FINISH DRIVING HOME WHERE THEY PLANNED TO FIRE HIM. I suggested leaving him where we were, but they wanted the LOAD DELIVERED! I can't believe I survived 4 years and 60 something students with only one tree and a stop sign as casulties. I can't believe nobody even called the police on us. The company? England Trucking. My boss who insisted on letting him drive back to Salt Lake? Shelly Jones.

  • @prepperjonpnw6482

    @prepperjonpnw6482

    5 жыл бұрын

    jpslcut I have a friend who worked for England trucking and he has similar stories. Plus being away from home a minimum of a month at a stretch usually much longer. As for you surviving those 4 years, I would say it’s a testament to your skills as a trainer. Cheers mate and happy trails

  • @loganurquhart11

    @loganurquhart11

    5 жыл бұрын

    jpslcut yes she is!

  • @bestcommentiguarantyyoum4189

    @bestcommentiguarantyyoum4189

    5 жыл бұрын

    jpslcut bless your soul

  • @wovenbythemosthigh253
    @wovenbythemosthigh2536 жыл бұрын

    Word for word she has spoken the truth my experience was very similar in both positions as a student then as a trainer ionly I didn't take shit and was positioned to use there safety message in both me and my students favor and that allowed me to to train effectively which I enjoyed but as she stated the sleeping part it was the only to reason I refused to keep training it sucks to be tired ALL the time and then still have to be cool and train but it can be done I did it for a while and developed GREAT relationships

  • @Mumbles19852007
    @Mumbles198520078 жыл бұрын

    I went through TCC in Portsmouth, Va in 2006 for trucking school. it was an 8 week course and thought us alot and spent alot of time on backing. it was fun as well as educational.

  • @petersisco2499
    @petersisco24996 жыл бұрын

    I went to national training in Orange Park FL . I spent almost 3months doing all online text book work . Then after that went to DMV and did my written test . After I got my permit I spent 6 weeks on campus with hands on training with the truck . We had both campus and on road time . And I was an owner operator for CRST and I gotta admit that company is the worst company I dealt with and my only bad experience in the industry .

  • @brockjohnson100
    @brockjohnson1005 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for your video; I learned a lot while I shop around for different companies to work for.

  • @jimmyjames5493
    @jimmyjames54935 жыл бұрын

    "Only way it works is having people that don't know any better"...you hit that nail perfectly. Companies have come to rely on that in other ways as well. Once a driver becomes aware they tend to run us out. I kept catching my company bs and called them out on it. You can imagine the corporate harassment now since I called them out on it. I been driving off a ranch (Montana) since I was 12. Recently 3 years ago started commercial driving. Wow is there a lot of bs (pulling the wool over drivers eyes) Needs to be lots more accountability on the people forcing the decisions sitting in that office chair idling indirect threats on job and careers for drivers. Record, document, and record. Apps for every kind of surveillance you could think of. Personal dash cams protects from not only accidents but corporate firing scams. Already helped multiple times. I'm a dude but I'm very happy with a co ed environment. Great video and keep safe out there!

  • @1fishdreamer
    @1fishdreamer5 жыл бұрын

    I just want to say that I thank you for posting this as public so that all the new guys like me trying to go into the career of driving big truck know what to expect. I hope that one day I can thank you in person you are a great model.

  • @arthaddock951
    @arthaddock9516 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your honesty. I will use your experiences to help me on my new career.

  • @jmsmeier1113
    @jmsmeier11136 жыл бұрын

    This is the kind of garbage that happens when a company doesn’t properly vet their trainers. How in the hell is a rookie driver going to teach another rookie driver? Another huge problem is making trainers out of people that don’t have the mentality to teach. I’ve ripped into trainers at truckstops for their treatment of student drivers. You said it yourself, you were nervous, and I’m guessing self conscious about making mistakes, and way to many so called instructors will exacerbate those emotions to the point of making the student a nervous wreck, and untrainable. I, if for no other reason than self preservation, wouldn’t consider going to sleep behind a student until they had proven that they were not only capable of handling the equipment, but they also had the common sense to realize when they were past their skill level, and would pull over, or at least wake me up. By the time I release a new driver, I’ll put them up against any three year veteran.

  • @alexneil9116
    @alexneil91166 жыл бұрын

    i drive also. your video is awesome... this is why the student should only drive and the trainer should be in the pass seat. the driver never drives just watches you and to teach you. this way it would be legal and more important safe.

  • @jim69674
    @jim696746 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your time. so true

  • @raulmonster
    @raulmonster8 жыл бұрын

    Wow, I'm sorry you went thru that...what a horrible experience! Your video is extremely informative and it sums up team training in a nut shell. CRST tried to get me but thru the power of KZread I was able to ask all the right questions up front and weed them out. I went with Gordon and I know I made the right choice. Be safe out there.

  • @mikemay777
    @mikemay7775 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing such details. It was a huge eye opener for me.

  • @diedrecole8188
    @diedrecole81886 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing your story. Really impassioned and informative!

  • @jamdownmatket
    @jamdownmatket6 жыл бұрын

    Has a train my self you very lucky you maid it through. My hats off to you. I trained for Stevens Transport for 8 years and the first week the truck can only run for 15hs then the truck as to be shutdown for 8hs so both trainer and student can sleep. The 2nd week 17hs the 4th week 19hs the truck as to stop for 8hs before the next shift begins. This is a good company to start with they a big on safety.

  • @TheJack0062
    @TheJack00625 жыл бұрын

    Awesome honesty thanks so much.

  • @icosahedron7726
    @icosahedron77265 жыл бұрын

    *""WHAT IF YOU HAD A MAJOR ACCIDENT BEING UNDER THE INFLUENCE""?????* *""THAT TRAINER WAS A COMPLETE FOOL""!!!!!!!!!*

  • @yankeered5625
    @yankeered56255 жыл бұрын

    New to the channel and still new to driving with 7months I have had so many of the same situations happen to me... My trainer slept my whole time I drove... My school only taught whats nessasary for the tests... I was otr for 6 months and now am on a dedicated route for dollar general... But I can completely relate to your stories

  • @marshallcato9939
    @marshallcato99397 жыл бұрын

    I heard a lot of good things about Gordon. Now that they have a plan to help new drivers, I am going to let my niece know. She wants to start driving.

  • @janicepettaway
    @janicepettaway6 жыл бұрын

    Your video was very good cause I'm starting to go with CRST an the info you gave was very helpful for me as a woman. I don't know what to expect but by watching your video you gave me heads up on what to expect from a trainer,I appreciate your video.

  • @xxxcozz
    @xxxcozz5 жыл бұрын

    AWESOME VIDEO, thank you

  • @rondierice4922
    @rondierice49225 жыл бұрын

    Trainer behind the curtain like the Wizard of Oz.!

  • @bearhead41
    @bearhead418 жыл бұрын

    the first question a newbie should ask is do they dispatch the tanning truck as a team truck,if so no thank you next

  • @pressendforspanish
    @pressendforspanish5 жыл бұрын

    Glad you made it.

  • @scotthighroller4482
    @scotthighroller44826 жыл бұрын

    Not just CRST I went to another company not to throw names but my training was a bit similar to an extent I was took from Chattanooga to Shaw out of Ga we pulled in he said ok jump in and take over. I pulled out got on interstate and he said ya your good and went to sleeper we were heading towards cali i knew of inclines and such but never took it at full load being from florida. Long story short Donners pass lets just say a scared student driver scared his trainer. I took donners pass in 8th gear hit top and never downshifted not thinking so smoking brakes and engine brakes on he comes storming out of sleeper telling me to rev as much as i can and catch lower gears i did but as i told him prior to that I'm from fla ive never took a decline in a big rig. We made it obviously but that showed me the realization of how being half trained is a serious business. Now i take Donners pass with confidence but know how serious it can be if not done right being my first experience at 79,080 and trying to take to fast

  • @scotthighroller4482

    @scotthighroller4482

    6 жыл бұрын

    And for those who think disbelief i was in 7th until it leveled out i upshifted instead of down shifted not thinking about the 1st rule of lower gear going down then what was used to go up

  • @independentrawb1863
    @independentrawb18636 жыл бұрын

    My school only taught us how to pass the CDL test from there you were on your own. Thank God I've had heavy equipment experience as well HE experience in the coal mines, I feel bad for these folks coming straight from Walmart wanting to be drivers.

  • @7viewerlogic670
    @7viewerlogic6708 жыл бұрын

    Glad everything worked out for you!

  • @apocalypticpyromaniac7518
    @apocalypticpyromaniac75185 жыл бұрын

    I work for Pam and they gave me two different partners and so I was a team driver for almost 8 months with two different people at two different times and I’ve basically had to teach one how do you logs and had to teach the other one had a back up because he just got up his trainers truck and 90% of his training was actually on me because like she says trainers don’t train they tell you to drive and then go to sleep I was incredibly lucky and my trainer straight out of school actually taught to me what did you

  • @truckersanti4696
    @truckersanti46968 жыл бұрын

    good info,,,, an thanks for tell your experience,,, I'm cdl students,,, an maybe you know , when people start as a new cdl drivers, ,, we asking many things ,,, an questions, ,, but a cording with your video about the tem,, as a new student drivers, ,, what options we have ,,, whe you go to any company they have to give you a orientation with a trainer,,, the issue is you have a lucky to your trainee is a good or not,, is he want to share all he knows, ,, but any way,, it's the first time I see your video,, god bless you, , I'm living virginia take care

  • @dtmc1208
    @dtmc12088 жыл бұрын

    thanks 4 the info. good looking out!

  • @countryboybt1278
    @countryboybt12785 жыл бұрын

    there are companies like that, but few select places offer skid pad training called collision avoidance in hazardous conditions it works saved my buns few times like driving on ice swerve in time thru barrels on course with 53 ft trailer and backing over 2 mile course unto a dock , I ran with experienced trainer 1 st train wrote good about me then had 2nd trainer was excop and drill instructor and a prick from word go, since then became solo driver drove from 1998 till 2015 solo till go injured on job do to property neglect pretty much ended my career , I have several endorsement ran flatbed,dump trailer,reefer, lowboy with heavy equipment to hauling rolls of steel coils to car stamping plants , been out truck still licensed and honestly missed the road,i still wonder after coming off medical leave if companies hire experienced drivers but away from truck I definitely have trainer experience.

  • @dwendolynncato568
    @dwendolynncato5688 жыл бұрын

    I found that Florida is the same way, you don't get the training you need.

  • @DanWebster
    @DanWebster6 жыл бұрын

    I was like when do we write down stuff in our log books? because we were taught every time basically we fart we make an entry right? Wrong! We get out our magic mileage dial-a-matic truck stop miles estimator doo-hickey and out truckers atlas and make up shit logs to get the man off our ass. Oh I could tell some stories too about my trainer. I feel for you. My first day we left Mobile heading up to Jackson ms. half way up the guy pulls over side the road. he gets out I am manning the passenger seat. I ask do I need to get out? nope stay there I will only be a min. Dont fucking do it. get out, find a place to pee in the wheels wels and pee. Dont find out how I did. I am like when do we hit the rest area, we just did was you paying attention. So we did a run from Cali to Idaho to Florida and I saw his check mine was a couple hundred his was 3 k. but I was being trained? I could go on and on. Great video here.True dat. -Pawpaw

  • @orves6024rack
    @orves6024rack8 жыл бұрын

    what company do you drive for now.

  • @cesaralvarez1351
    @cesaralvarez13515 жыл бұрын

    My respect to this lady. Wuaho

  • @718y
    @718y8 жыл бұрын

    which the best company to begin with ?

  • @ilyaboyko
    @ilyaboyko8 жыл бұрын

    I started out the same way witch I though was terrible at first but later I think I learned faster this way but it was a lot of danger situations

  • @cswann8
    @cswann85 жыл бұрын

    Wow....a company made a guy with a year of experience a trainer? Disgraceful.

  • @RickDeckardMemories
    @RickDeckardMemories5 жыл бұрын

    Looks like you might be a little naive. I know some recent immigrants (who barely speak English) having gone through an even shadier and shorter process. One of these guys (I worked with him for 6 months) studied all the questions he could find. There are many apps for that, btw. Just by studying the apps and learning by heart all the questions, he was able to get his permit - no school instructions of any kind, he did not attend any school up to this point. Then he went to one of many immigrant-run driving schools in Queens, NY. There, he took a bunch of one-hour driving lessons from a Polish instructor (who spoke broken English himself). These driving and pre-trip lessons were $80 to $100 a pop. I think he took 10 lessons, failed his first driving test, then took few more and passed. We were working in a moving company in NYC at the time, doing local NYC moving jobs in small trucks. This company sent him on ONE training trip to FL and back in an 18-wheeler with an "instructor" who got his CDL few months before. That's it. After this our "hero" was driving an 18-wheeler by himself, across 48 States, with non-CDL helpers. I went with him as a helper (no CDL) for a couple of months... the guy was completely helpless pretty much anywhere outside of a highway. I know of at least one of my acquaintances who got in trouble at the weight station - his English was so bad, he couldn't understand or communicate adequately with the officers. I am not sure if his CDL was confiscated or he was simply put out of service for 10 hours, I couldn't find out all the details...

  • @luisrodriguez197099
    @luisrodriguez1970998 жыл бұрын

    that's very true..

  • @tiba242424
    @tiba2424248 жыл бұрын

    Hello Jean-Anne! :) So if team truck driver training is bad what is the alternative? After my two week training am I to demand to drive solo? Or do I demand a trainer on day rides regionally only? Thank You so much for this video. Unfortunately it's put some fear into me but just like the veteran war soldier tells the new grunt in the movies "fear is good boy, it means ya got sense ..." lol Antyways I'm going off for training in Memphis for a little company who's name rhymes with rift.

  • @KevinDye101

    @KevinDye101

    8 жыл бұрын

    Maverick doesn't team during training.

  • @ledegraw
    @ledegraw5 жыл бұрын

    What the hell can they teach you in three weeks but to cheat WOW.

  • @icosahedron7726
    @icosahedron77265 жыл бұрын

    *”"WERNER IS A CHEAP COMPANY,"" *""WERNER DOESN'T PAY THEIR DRIVERS LIKE THEY SHOULD""!!!!!!!*

  • @houndgangent.mac_lar8840
    @houndgangent.mac_lar88405 жыл бұрын

    My farther n law owner pro transportation. Then bulldog logistic. Well bulldog expedited under crst. I was a recruiter . And crst driver's used to complain a lot.. Me being new I didn't understand . Mind you I only pre hired for my dad. Now I understand because I used to tell them it was 36.c a mi. They were all saying I don't do teams. Well???? But most had come from old pro transportation (Volvo rigs) owner operator. Onto crst!!! Needless to say my farther n law didn't run under their authority verry long.

  • @theamerican7131
    @theamerican71318 жыл бұрын

    Enjoyed the video and learned a lot. Yellowjackets and cheating on your logs? Sounds like something out of the wild wild west. ha, ha. If your current company has a good training program, I am wondering why you didn't mention them? Peace.

  • @lucillefornegan2170
    @lucillefornegan21705 жыл бұрын

    From what ive heard crst is scary.. I will try swift or prime

  • @jeff7764
    @jeff77645 жыл бұрын

    Driving any tractor without a jake brake is a fucking horror show.

  • @KevZen2000
    @KevZen20006 жыл бұрын

    In trucking, going to a public bathroom isn't recommended. This is why you need to, use portable means. You waste too much time, going in.

  • @curtreimer2381
    @curtreimer23815 жыл бұрын

    Way to go best job ever

  • @keepemrollin1855
    @keepemrollin18555 жыл бұрын

    I think people care more about how u drive not how u learned to drive,same with anything in life,if u can prove u can do it and do it safely u will always come out on top inless ur breaks go out going down a 5% grade🤭😎😉😉 and CRST IS THE DARK SIDE OF TRUCCING

  • @doghouse416
    @doghouse4165 жыл бұрын

    HA!! my trainer in 1999 would urinate in a Gatorade bottle........while he was still driving , and then complain about bathroom stops when I would stop. Then he would eat a crappy truckstop meal and chase it with a whole bottle of pepto, then shart in his pants and then ball up his crap filled underpants and throw them into the sleeper. The entire truck smelled like crap!! Then he would steal fuel from the refer fill ups to make his fuel bonus...yay Stevens Transport!!

  • @Shawn1283
    @Shawn12835 жыл бұрын

    Yellow Jackets are just a caffeine pill with added vitamin B - its still legal to this day. Same as No-Doze but No-Doze don’t have Vitamin B - You can still buy Yellow Jackets to this day.

  • @alexdanso9526
    @alexdanso95266 жыл бұрын

    I don’t think you telling the whole truth, something else happened. You sound like you picking and choosing what to say.

  • @bearhead41
    @bearhead418 жыл бұрын

    the first question a newbie should ask is do they dispatch the tanning truck as a team truck,if so no thank you next