Read Charmaine's reflection of the exercise here >>> www.pianote.com/blog/teaching-classical-pianist-to-improvise/

@RiversRun597

2 жыл бұрын

Classically trained as a youngster and didn't start improvising until recently, in my 60s. Thanks to Pianote!

*I wasn’t classically trained and sight reading terrifies me and Charmane is terrified of improvisation but I LOVE IT!*

@idamusicworld

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, me too! Sight reading is most difficult for me. I love improvisation too. 🤣

@GoaWay4Sanity

2 жыл бұрын

@@idamusicworld *yep! I still want to learn how to sight read but improvisation allows me to create original things on the fly! there will also be times where you’ll be by a piano and no sheet music*

I was also classically trained since I was 8, I have the exact same fear in improvising!lack of security when I don’t have a music sheet in front of me and it’s scary not knowing where my fingers should go next! This video is definitely helpful for me ...... thanks !

@davondd

2 жыл бұрын

Wow Vayda to me as someone with almost not skill as of yet, I kinda find it difficult to understand. Classical music is extremely difficult to play and wrap my head around, I would have thought someone like you would have found it a piece of cake. Still I think I’d rather be in your shoes because I just love to listen to classical piano music. It is ultra relaxing 😌. My question is do you think it would be easy for the inverse, someone great at piano but not classically trained to do what you do?

@kamuts7

2 жыл бұрын

@@davondd not possible if you cant sight read music.

Wow, Charmaine has mad skills, but seeing these two working together was so wholesome! In the middle of episode when the improve really started I got emotional watching it, so great! I would happily see more stuff like this, and Charmaine and Lisa rock!

As a classically trained pianist who began playing piano at a very young age by ear, this is exactly what I've been looking for. I mostly sight-read, but would prefer to have the freedom to just play. Your videos are superb!

Amazing.... This is EXACTLY my situation. I'm a classical pianist! I was classically trained at the age of 5. My instructors only taught me theory related to classical theory. I tried to learn pop music/improvisation but was always told not to mix the two by my instructors! I wanted to play in the jazz band and rock band in high school but my improvisation skills was lacking and therefore I never pursued either. I hope this video will change this at 60... You're Awesome 👍👍😎

Oh my goodness! I'm a minute in and this is me... no sheet music... what do I do???!! The Bach you chose is the perfect piece too... "If you play a note that sounds terrible just play the note next it"... Well that is so simple.. why wasn't it obvious to me? 😲 This is lovely watching an excellent pianist have exactly the struggles I do, can't thank you enough for this... right... let's get back to it.... "Get out of your own way and play" yes! What a great mantra. Just need to muster enough energy from my poor ME/CFS affected bod to get some practice in now. Lisa and Charmaine, hope I've remembered that correctly, I feel soooo encouraged by this video. Utterly inspiring! Thank you thank you thank you!!!

@PianoteOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

Glad that you could identify a bit with this lesson :)

I was at the church today running a sound check for Sunday (new mixing board). It came time to test the steinway mics, the music director wasn't there, so it was up to me and I had no sheet music in front of me. So I just banged out a 1-4-5 pattern on the left and a little melody that came to mind (which I know how to do from watching this channel) and it was the first time I'd played anything in front of people. Their only comment - Can you play louder please? No need to be nervous.

@PianoteOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

That is so good to hear! We have a story like that on this week's podcast with Erskine Hawkins (who's played with Eminem and Rihanna among other very big names!) I love it when the crowd is eager to hear more :)

@robsonclark9678

2 жыл бұрын

Heck ya!!

@olyaanisimova1647

2 жыл бұрын

@@PianoteOfficial where can I hear that podcast please?

Another outstanding tutorial. A gifted teacher has the ability of being able to teach theoretical principles, so simply, that various skill levels can absorb the lessons. We appreciate you!.

I would love to see improvisation being revived in Classical music. Would be fun to see concert pianist improvising their own prelude as warmup before playing bigger pieces. Charmaine did great! Some tips I'd give is to use a motif and mold it around the chords you choose. The motif doesn't have to be complicated, a simple interval with unique rhythm usually suffice. Another tips would be to practice voice leading to smoothen the chord movement. Best of luck to anyone trying this out!

I thrive off of this concept when I first started learning from you. And I have found patterns that really feel great and sound great. Only problem is, that my fingers by instinct go to C minor scale and play the same variation of the same tune every time and it's a nightmare to break out of it lol.

I've been trying to practice my improvisation but have only played from sheet music. I just LOVE how the melodies and patterns Charmaine comes up with are so familiar to the things I'm doing. It makes it feel less daunting that I'm not yet at the point where I can do crazy things with cord patterns. Thanks for the video!

Amazing how someone so talented has a fear of improvising. I totally needed to see this. Charmaine you are amazing

This is so inspiring! Thanks for the lesson!

This beautiful walk thru at a slower pace really addressed my sticking point. Thank you.

Thank you so much for this! One of my students wants to learn how to improvise and I’m 100% going to send her this video 💖

Ok, this was very helpful, someone actually taking the time to break it down and explain, stepwise! My fellow classically-trained pianists, how many of you can relate? I had stopped asking people to show me how to improvise, because I got tired of the explanation, “I don’t know, you just do it, you just play whatever you want” followed by them playing something incomprehensibly amazing then saying, “See?” 😐

Very interesting! Congratulations to both of you.

This is a key difference between jazz and classical training. From early on jazz musicians are learning scales and arpeggios not only to increase their facility in playing them when written in a score, but also to learn what chords they sound good over. A jazz musician has no fear of not having written music. As long as they can hear the chords, they can play on top of them. Some players better than others of course. 🤓

@racylaserjet

2 жыл бұрын

Most were classically trained to begin with.

@EF-fc4du

Жыл бұрын

Classically trained pianists are taught exactly the same thing. But the culture of classical music is that one should remain true to the intention of a composer. If one puts too much of himself into a piece of music, you risk criticism. They have the ability to do it but they are simply taught to stay clear of it. Classical musicians can all improvise and it is only a psychological barrier that prevents them from doing it comfortably.

Great seminar!!

Oh my goodness. I have been following this channel for a while now. It’s really helped me so much. Since I started watching this channel I couldn’t put my finger on who Lisa reminds me of. But today I figured it out! Ginnifer Goodwin from Once Upon A Time ! Ugh both are beauties! Thanks for sharing another great video!

Lisa ma'am you're looking so beautiful and the way you excite always to teach us is incredibly increase our excitement to learn ❤️

WOW!! This is amazing 👏 Thank you!

I chose Love me Like You do and went super well! I made this cool piece which was soothing 😌 ❤ Thank you

I completely vibe with what is said about not having notes on a page and feeling very unsafe and unsure of myself. Improvising and "working without a net" is something I am working on now more than I ever have.

This is so cool! im going to try it! Thanks!

Im a total newb but i found having an accompaniment rhythm makes improv so easy

Nicely played and instructed.

Fabulous! Thank you!

Love the content you are bringing, keep it up! Lifetime member and I still need to get my scales and keys down for improv, Thanks! 🙂🎶👍

@PianoteOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

you've got lots of time at least :)

WOW! This video inspired me so much!!! I didn't know you can make pretty music with with just chords, inversions, and broken chords!😮😮😮 I thought you needed to know more stuff! At this point, I'm pretty solid on my chords, just need more practice with the sharps and flats. But now I'm starting to dip my feet into learning inversions, but have kind of been slacking a bit in the past week not putting in my usual practice time because I'm not enjoying learning practicing inversions so much lol 😂 this is exactly the video I needed to watch to get me fired up again and motivated! Going to get back to practicing my inversions! I'm excited!😃😃😃

I loved this video and am having fun working on this chord progression myself. Lisa, I would love to hear how you would approach this!! Show us!!

Thank you! Very useful! ⚘

I’m in the same boat- great video - I’m going to try this 🎹😊❤️

Wow! Thank you May God blesses you & the team 💖💞💝

Very unique lesson! Put into practice what others Just talk about. Congratulations!

@PianoteOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Wow I just tried this and I played like a pro 😱😱😱😍😍😍 Thank. You

Amazing

this is amazing, thank you!

@PianoteOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome!

Beautiful ideas 😁

The best channel and people🌸

@PianoteOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

and the best commenters!!

Improvisation is about rhythm!

(tongue-in-cheek)... (Pianote): "Pick any musical key..." (classical pianist): " Ok, as long as it's Bb..."

This weekend she’s going to be down at the piano bar playing for tips and having a blast!

@PianoteOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds pretty good to me!

This is awesome!

Wow she got some super mad skills!!! I kent even! 👍🏼👏🏻🙌🏻🌈

Take the chord progressions right out of the C# minor Fantasy Impromptu as a basis to improvise upon and follow his baseline while improvising over the chord structures. Then transpose to several keys. The Prelude in C can be practiced in all 12 keys and improvise on the chords as well. As in I iim7 V6/5 and so on.

Oh my gawd u are aaammmazing!!!! ❣️🖤

My daughter took classical music lessons for 12 years but can’t play a song using lead sheet. That’s why I playI jazz , I love to improvise 😊🎼 I feel free playing the piano.

Your videos are fantastic. Thank you. There is a bass behind you. Who plays it? Do you have any piano - bass videos? Please give us some videos telling what the piano should play and what the bass should play while improvising a duet. Thank you.

This was awesome to watch. I'm also classically trained but from playing in church and with a band, I've learned to improvise by using knowledge of diatonic harmony (huge music theory nerd). Not too hard...can't say the same about Chopin's Fantasie Impromptu though!! Hope to remedy that in the future. :)

@banana_inpyjama

2 жыл бұрын

Hey a good trick for Chopin is coloring the chords in the left hand that are the same! That way it really just becomes so much easier for your brain.

@rocknraptor3195

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly I'm the same way! I can play some piano bc I know music theory, I'm learning more. But I'm a guitar/bass player, & drummer. I've been drumming in church since I was a kid but only started bass in church this year. Although Ive played the strings for almost 20 years I was so scared to start in church. We have 2 drummers & had no bass or guitar players so I forced myself to switch. Glad I did! With help from God I'm rocking now. But the main problem was the other guys play by ear only & don't know any music theory, so I get like zero help from them. Ive had to learn to play just by ear, which was new to me, but knowing the fret board, notes & scales has been whats saved me. Now I'm improvising, doing leads & some solos. Never thought I'd enjoy it more than drumming, since that was my first love but I totally DO! So so glad I stepped out of my comfort zone! One day I hope to be there with piano too. Anyone else reading this I encourage you to try new things, step out of your comfort zone! Who cares if you mess up a little, you're still doing better than anyone else just sitting on their hands. No one gets better without messing up some! Dont be scared. Imagine how bad I was at 11 years old playing drums with VERY little training & no help from anyone 😖😖 thank God I made it through that & never gave up. Whatever it is don't give up, believe in yourself, keep practicing & never be afraid to make a mistake or two! Lots of times no one will even notice but you! God bless you, I love you all.🙏❤

@pianowithpri9123

2 жыл бұрын

@@rocknraptor3195 Good stuff!

Wow, I can’t understand this fear. All I do is improvise! I very rarely play a piece that has been composed. I find it far too restricted and controlled. It is so funny to se such a talented person so scared to just play.

@PianoteOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

so interesting how we can excel in different aspects!

@RiversRun597

2 жыл бұрын

It's how some of us were taught. You had to follow the sheet music and strict theory.

@13opacus

2 жыл бұрын

@@RiversRun597 I was also trained for violin and guitar but I have always improvised. I thought it was just part of playing an instrument. I understand that I was not the most diligent student but I also try to write music, so I guess that is why I have always improvised and not really thought about it too much. It is always interesting to find out how others approach things though. :)

@carolmurphy4627

2 жыл бұрын

It's a result of restrictive teaching. I had my natural ability to play by ear 'taught' out of me and often wish I had never had formal lessons.

@13opacus

2 жыл бұрын

@@carolmurphy4627 it sounds like like some teaching practices need to change a bit :)

Buongiorno Lisa e Charmaine, siete bravissime! Vorrei chiedere, come si fa a cambiare la tonalità durante un' improvvisazione? Grazie mille!

Hello Pianote, I love your videos. Just want to ask if Emaj7 to G7 is fit when played together?

Merci beaucoup for this. I'm still a Nooby, but this is my song I'm trying to learn and I really appreciated the demonstration. I noticed that she did an octave, but it doesn't look like she has large hands. There are several Chopin pieces that require tenths. Does she use a smaller keyboard? Have you done a video on those keyboards?

Thanks. Teachers

@PianoteOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

u got it!

dope content.

If I'm becoming a master's of keyboards I will always attends every Friday's or Saturday's in a class musical instruments teachers at Kuching Sarawak's . On a 3 months .

the well tempered clavier was meant as a practice to learn for Bach students. so i think it should be treated as such to learn chords/arpeggios etc. you just simply play the same shapes in different octaves. great lesson here.

U "ll be my piano teacher for sure.

First 5 seconds into this video and I accept this is some advanced stuff...

The best advice I've heard all year, if a note sounds wrong, play the next one

I got the same fear. I've learn classical piano too. Thank you!

@PianoteOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

hope this lesson helped a little!

Charmaine, Sorry if I messed up on your name. Your hands go so fast . Your amazing. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wow. !!!

Very interesting the key notes But I can't follow the steps , please suggest 🙏🙏🙏

I learned piano since I was a child, Im a church organist but in applying as piano teacher, I failed on an improvisation exam, so sad😢

Hello I have a question could you make a tutorial of the song,, pretty girl from malcom” I beg you 😩❤️‍🔥👋

Im patiently waiting for canon D ⛄ since you told me its on the list ⛄

This is how I play everything!

@justA.

2 жыл бұрын

Same. I'm a noob but i love improvising. Doesn't always sound good, but it's so enjoyable and freeing. And you really feel the music when you improvise. I love it. (Although i need to expand my knowledge on scales and rythm to be able to improvise more stuff)

@PianoteOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

Its a great way to experience music ❤️

I totally understand her pain. As a percussionist (mostly kit) we could sometimes have 8/12 bars for 'improvisation' ... just tell me what you need me to play goddammit lol 🤣

Waw ultimate

Remember there is a tune that Gounod fit over this called Ave Maria. How about showing her a lead sheet or what is called a fake book with just the chords to flesh out and the tune. Plenty of standard songs that can used as the basis of improvisation.

I wish to know how to play

@PianoteOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

just a little time and practice and you will be amazed at what you can play!

is the opposite for me whenever someone gives me a sheet to read i would freak out cuz idk how to read sheet music i mostly do it by ear cuz is more comfortable

As a classical pianist I truly understand the pain. 🤣

Didn't realize there was different types of pianist. I always assumed all pianist could most likely improvise.

@wthomason8341

2 жыл бұрын

All probably have the ability to, but going from having a piece of sheet music telling you where to place your fingers at every second of a song to having no boundaries or rules at all can be overwhelming to think about.

@carolmurphy4627

2 жыл бұрын

Sadly not.

Super C....

Talennnttttt🔥🔥🔥.

@PianoteOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

Improvisation didn't seem to ever cross my mind back when I had lessons. How do teachers let this happen to students?🤔

I can ONLY improv classically, I cant seem to play anyone elses work unless I've listened to it over and over and find the sound naturally

I can’t believe she never done something like this before

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹

Lisa I love, you should teach me, not that mechanical one with no creative feel, even though she played, but she will still don't know how to improvise.

Weren't codas largely improvised in the past?

@derrick2251

2 жыл бұрын

Yes

So what’s off limits when it comes to borrowing pieces from a song? Using the same chords isn’t plagiarism?

Lisa though ☺️

Lisa you look nice in your dress 😍😊

I liked borrowing the chords from a familiar piece, to get started, and the trills worked really nicely, bravo. The set looks cluttered recently, it stressed me out a bit

@derrick2251

2 жыл бұрын

It’s cluttered to match the theme and stereotype of a classical pianist

Morning

@PianoteOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

☀️☀️☀️☀️☀️

Charmaine, "Hmm.. . I didn't know improvisation could be so much fun... " Chopin, " Yeah.. . That's exactly how Fantaisie-Impromptu came about.. ."

🌹🧡🧡👼🏻😘

Why not take the progressions in the C# minor Impromptu and use them to improvise. Chopin was a great admirer of Bach and they both were improvisers. Transpose the Bach Prelude 8n all 12 keys and improvise over those chords as well. Not knowing what comes next is not a problem as you can surprise yourself by being totally open to creating something spontaneously. Classical pianists should know how to improvise and they have the facility to do that. Just jump on there and try things and you will be rewarded.

I'm the opposite, seeing a classical sheet of music is equally terrifying as you need great skills to play them whilst reading the music..

Just created the next Beethoven or Bach!!!

The whole business about classical musicians not being able to improvise is purely a case of the culture of classical music changing to de-emphasize it. They all have the skill to do it but are taught to stick to the score. Consider the fact that before the 20th century virtually every great classical pianist was renowned for improvising. Mozart, Beethoven, Chopin, Liszt. The ability to compose extemporaneously was considered a standard skill one needed to be a complete musician. Why this ended is a separate question but I can assure you it has nothing to do with diminishing skill.

They actually found one of the most important instruments and made people play it like robots. News flash, YOU DONT COPY OTHER PEOPLES ART WORK. SOUND IS THE MOST POWERFUL ENERGY IN PHYSICS.

Hard for me to understand how a pianist at that level cant improvise...still great video

@TheMelopeus

2 жыл бұрын

Just never tried it and never needed to

This is quintessentially why I cannot learn anything from Lisa (I mean, I tried on Pianote)

I would give my right hand to have her left

Classical pianist doesn't understand key signatures😞