I quit teaching, as a maths teacher. It is not about the low pay but the pressure and abusive atttidute of senior lendership. Teaching will always be my dream job but I am exhausted of being oppressed and abused by the senior members of staff at schools. Teachers deserve more respect and autonomy, rather than repeatedly reported and emailed for nonsense reasons. Senior leaders use the term “professionalism “ to disguise their immoral acts . I would call it “professionalism for blackmailing classroom teachers “. I started as a supply but even as a supply , I experienced the similar problems. Senior leaderships at schools are very imperious, disrespectful and not well trained. Most of the senior leaders lack of quality in terms of human relationships.their only motivation is to have higher salary but they’re extremely insufficient for their position. They bully teachers and this is the reason why teachers quit in the first few years of their career. Headteachers work as if they are delivering the commands of the government instead of listening to the staff working under their supervision. The honorable position would be to stand against anything morally unacceptable imposed by the government, even at the expense of loosing their jobs.

Do not enter the teaching profession!

Everyone wants to leave teaching. Everyone. The lack of mental space, stress, lack of autonomy and overall toxicity in education are worse than the low pay. I've never seen an "alternative path" candidate last more than 3 years. Usually 1-2.

@guitar999able

3 жыл бұрын

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@dianamincher6479

3 жыл бұрын

Lousy working conditions and poor pay!

@sandstone4566

3 жыл бұрын

right but teachers make the future.

@honeydate

2 жыл бұрын

Preach!

@tayachting6345

2 жыл бұрын

@@dianamincher6479 Pay is only a small part of it.

There's no future for teachers in the UK.

@marcusnelson1239

2 жыл бұрын

Why do you say this?

Don't ever be a teacher. You don't even need an accusation or a criminal record. I have never had either. Suspicion and gossip will ruin your life. It has mine.

@dianamincher6479

3 жыл бұрын

He's such a liar when he says he would go back to teaching-he wouldn't too poorly paid.

@watvid1

3 жыл бұрын

Have you considered teaching abroad?

@watvid1

3 жыл бұрын

@@guitar999able teaching abroad is better?

@simple3359

3 жыл бұрын

@@watvid1 it seems much better as they are treated with more respect and less paperwork which means they can have a work and life balance. I've met countless teachers abroad that say they would never go back to the UK and USA due to these issues. They are also loved where they are so it's no surprise people either leave the profession or go abroad to never come back.

@watvid1

3 жыл бұрын

@@simple3359 That's what I'm considering doing, will do my teaching training this year then hopefully from next move abroad. Some international schools accept NQTs

He's no teacher-he's a politician!

I got so badly bullied on my PGCE placement that I left on the second day. Then left the PGCE. Glad I did.

@tayachting6345

2 жыл бұрын

Really? that bad in only two days?

@azmike3572

2 жыл бұрын

(What is the PGCE?)

@seiwarriors

Жыл бұрын

@@azmike3572 Certificate to qualify as a teacher

@azmike3572

Жыл бұрын

@@seiwarriors Thanks.

@giani1680

Жыл бұрын

I got bullied badly during my pgce placement, and passed it on the very last week. Then, it happened during the nqt year, so I changed school. Eventually zi manager to qualify, but this means nothing: schools should not be allowed to do that

The real problem is the economy does not require most of what is taught in school, but employers need to ask for GCSE results of C and above (or number equivalent) in Maths and English so they know they are hiring people who ought to be able to do basic maths and at the very least can understand basic instructions. However, mental arithmetic is usually poor and young people don't listen very well so the C grade and above is not all that helpful.

Why would science or maths graduates become teachers and earn 10-25% of what they could get elsewhere? Just cut the crap and get rid of the golden handcuffs arrangements for new teachers and just fucking pay us properly. If MPs get almost £90K then that should be the going rate to teach.

I'm a teacher who has relevant education background and relevant industrial experience. However, I find it still difficult finding employment and more. I reflect on leaving every year.

@MathBuz

5 жыл бұрын

Most of the teachers having relevant experience have problem with their skill building, that is what I think. Or your interest level may not be that much high that is required for an effective teacher..

@enrikofercak8494

4 жыл бұрын

Yesterday a teacher shouted at me for not having my PE kit and I told him my belly hurt and my mum told me if I don’t wanna do it I should so then he shouted at me for no reason then I shouted at him back

@MJamilHoque

3 жыл бұрын

@@guitar999able : I agree.

@ivanbombana7282

3 жыл бұрын

Do you have salary in Summer?

@dianamincher6479

3 жыл бұрын

Employment in the UK is highly politicised.

It’s an utterly awful job.

The fact that they stuggle to find maths and science teachers because they have plany of better paid options elsewhere just goes to show that pay is obviously a factor. There's nothing wrong with wanting to be paid more!

Hi I am maths teacher working in a higher secondary school in Oman, one of the gulf country.. Interesting discussion.. I think if we want to make teachers effective, we need to train them in their weak area... training has strong influence on teacher and that makes him an effective individual for society..

@TrondHelm

4 жыл бұрын

What sort of pay are you on?

@MathBuz

4 жыл бұрын

TrondHelm You can contact on my email for making discussion.. adeel200us@gmail.com

@MathBuz

3 жыл бұрын

Algerian English Lessons Yes

@MathBuz

3 жыл бұрын

Algerian English Lessons Send your cv on my email.

@dianamincher6479

3 жыл бұрын

Bona fide teachers can't beat the political bias.

Bonuses? Please. It's time to reform schools, including the system. That's why teachers are declining. It's the workload in teaching that puts them off. We have split the education in two, and ask the question, are you an AI, technology teacher or a traditional teacher, cause you can't to both, as we said workload.

IMO uk schools in working-and lower middle class areas are deliberately sabotaging childrens' education - especially boys. The 10 year old grandson of a friend proudly showed us a schoolbook. Regular spelling mistakes were left unchecked and blindingly obvious errors of speech such as monf, fink, nuffing etc were also ignored. This boy is a very bright child and his future is being badly undermined. I am not a teacher but I could do a far better job myself.

@AJT86

3 жыл бұрын

Well that’s one child. Most teachers have sometimes over a hundred students work to mark, including taking up classes without teachers. The planning, mounting paperwork, and ridiculous standards drive people away.

@jamiemohan2049

2 жыл бұрын

Actually I heard UK kids are notoriously lazy. They take no responsibility for their own learning. Massive difference when teaching Irish kids. Uk kids and parents want the teacher doing all the work.

Ha ha. Not me. But I really want to speak to ex-teachers. If you know the other John Blake. Find out why he blocked me on Twitter. Thanks

Mr Blake very glib and no social responsibility, stating the obvious. We need to work hard-what about you. How can teachers teach effectively if they're not qualified. What he doing about the poor poor pay and shocking working conditions.

In Israel there are almost no male Teachers in Primary or Secondary Schools. This is a result of lack of respect given to Teachers, poor pay, large numbers of students in most classrooms, lots of unchallenged and bored students and the demands put on Teachers ......especially those who take their profession seriously. The emphasis on Hi -Tech Professions where BIG money can be made is something that other Professions find hard to compete with. It seems like On-Line Teaching in a School environment is the only way out for the short term at least .......with Teachers being more like Social Workers and Info Source Directors than Teachers.

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@clincpb8903

3 жыл бұрын

I do not need to see her cleavage though !

@dianamincher6479

3 жыл бұрын

She's talking nonsense as long as it slides of her tongue easily!.

Why would anyone want to become a teacher ? 🥴 I dreamt of becoming a teacher when I was younger but then I changed my mind .. ewww 🤮

I have no compassion whatsoever for teachers because of the lack of diversity that found in the profession.

@krisoliver6202

4 ай бұрын

What has teacher burnout got to do with diversity? You’re talking utter crap

Internet schooling arises

i love teaching never teach for money ...

@dianamincher6479

3 жыл бұрын

Amazing that you're still alive!

@leestalker8256

2 жыл бұрын

There must be reason why most leave within 3 years

@honeydate

2 жыл бұрын

The salary is crap anyway..never covers the real hours worked

Marriage with me

There is no shortage. There are way too many teachers.