I have to encourage people listen to the whole podcast before they comment. I think they did a good job at giving Swift credit where it's due while still citing completely fair criticism. It can simultaneously be true that she has a lot of talent and charisma, and also that she had a lot of privileges afforded to her that boosted her career. Great podcast :-)

Im a rabid swiftie but she wouldn’t have gotten where she is today without immeasurable privilege (shes very talented but there’s a lot of people who never get a sliver of her opportunities)..sorry in advance for the angry swiftie commenters 😬

@ultravioletpisces3666

3 ай бұрын

This is pretty much true for everyone who is successful

@le3308

3 ай бұрын

@@ultravioletpisces3666 there are layers

@FoodNerds

Ай бұрын

No apologies needed. You’re right there are numerous people with just as much talent maybe more and aren’t given anywhere near the opportunities that she has had. That doesn’t mean that she undeserving. But every one needs the same advantages and privileges! That’s it! There are recording artists that have record deals and in my musically educated opinion their music is without melody and their lyrics are just about their own narcissism. BTW I used to live in Bloomington, Indiana and it’s very beautiful. The music school is equal to Juilliard.

@ultravioletpisces3666

29 күн бұрын

Nobody would have gotten where they are today without privilege

@le3308

29 күн бұрын

@ultravioletpisces3666 there’s different types and levels of privilege and there’s also the opposite of privilege..

Whhyyyyy do ppl constantly separate ppl by , Shape, Size, and Color!!!!!????????

@SofiaGonzalez-yj9hx

14 күн бұрын

It's not really people individually, it's the whole system. When people mention it, they do often in an effort to understand and explain how the system goes through different bodies and groups of people. ps: Apologies for my english writing :p, this is not my first language and I'm still learning :)

Everything said about how black girls are perceived I think is 100% accurate but black girls need just as much nurturing and protection as any other group of girls.

Swifties watch the whole thing before commenting challenge

@erinrhianne

3 ай бұрын

'Anyone who disagrees with anything said hasn't listened to the full thing' lol. I did. In fact the specific thing I had the most contention with was said near the end. They make some good points, but I don't have to agree with everything they say and neither does anyone else.

@SuperMiIk

3 ай бұрын

@@erinrhianne please show me where I said "anyone who disagrees with anything said hasn't listened to the full thing" or where I said that "you and everyone else has to agree with everything they say" please because I don't recall saying that at all

I truly appreciate this podcast. Because prior to this I didnt understand why she had the impact she does. That being said, I don't think she has to be an activist. Artists just need to create great art. It would be great if she did, but that's only a bonus. Also, when people want others to be activists they want them to be on "the right side of history." ie. their side. What if her honest views are wild and unpopular takes? Then you'd be forcing her to live a lie.

@motives88

Ай бұрын

it should be 'activism' to be a decent human and checking your privilege.

It’s so true. I wouldn’t say I am a Taylor Swift fan since I only like a few select songs, but I think she is such an interesting subject to explore whiteness and feminism. I think because she so perfectly embodies capitalism/whiteness people always have such strong reactions and opinions about her

Informative. Seeing whiteness rally girlhood and sisterhood in the guise of TS presents a new way to analyze community. Other demographics naturally have these themes and it’s represented in their families, friends, and sense of belonging. People seeing TS as a mascot to expression was interesting to analyze. I also think the continued misalignment of black girls are “women” as little as age five shows how deep rooted patriarchy is amongst whiteness. Being in Asia, there’s a lot to sort

Very insightful

(I just listened to the whole episode) The thing is, she LOVES that power. She's not changing anytime soon. She got comfortable AF in her privileges. I've been (or was?) a Swiftie for 14 years and in the last few months I've come to terms with the fact that I'm disappointed in her. I want the Taylor of Miss Americana the documentary, but even that feels a bit like a lie now. Her silence, her narcissism, her obsession with thinking everyone's obsessed with her, she's nothing now like that humble girl I thought I knew in 2009. Or even 2011. The success changed her, or maybe showed who she really is capable of being. And as much as I love her, and will continue to love her, is not the same. She's not relatable anymore, she doesn't see the world as a bigger picture, she sees herself as the bigger picture. I'm aware of what she expressed in her latest album now (which came out after this podcast episode), how it's so wild and crazy to live that type of life, I hold some empathy for that, but does she not see she's not the center of the world? Does she not see she can change a bit of that life if she wants to, stop being so (painfully) open in her lyrics? (I mean painfully for her) She complains about a weapon she keeps loading. I know none of us knows what it's like to be in her feet, but it's clear as daylight she has to break some of her patterns if she wants to be in a better place mentally. All of that self-centeredness keeps her apart from the collective struggles, thinking about the world, the ongoing genocide right now for example, everything. I remember when I loved her so much in 'Tied together with a smile', her songwriting back in the day showed that she was empathic with other people's realities. What happened? Thanks for an awesome episode. Your perspectives are needed and the way you expressed them were captivating. I dare to say, so many Swifties are in similar place as mine.

So no one told her about the adoration and praise coming from that particular group? That's a bit difficult to believe considering how dedicated she is to maintaining her image, I really wouldn't know though. This video was interesting and raises good points to reflect on.

Great podcast and information. So many truths. Open your lenses and see the whole world and the experiences through those open lenses.

Her focus on the things she writes about are things that most women can relate to. Not being an activist is not a crime. But you didn’t watch her film Miss. Americana there is activism all over it and her team was afraid that MAGA ‘s would protest her concerts and not attend her concerts and her career would be over!

@agatahyra4949

Ай бұрын

But she didn't do literały nothing with this spark after that... Except for encouraging young people to core, which id cool, bo not enough for a person with her capabilities, not only money. I think more about her charisma and authority in the world right now

@FoodNerds

28 күн бұрын

@@agatahyra4949 Your statement is very confusing. Do you mean that she did nothing with her spark? Watch the movie she made Miss. Americana again there’s activism through out it. And again not being an activist is legal as is being one.

Not everyone can be an activist for every single topic and it's completely ridiculous and unfair to expect that of a popstar just trying to sing about her own experiences. Taylor Swift is not actually a religion. She's not a clergy member. She's a woman singing about her life. And she's allowed to do that. We don't need entertainers to all be activists.

@miinphobiia

4 ай бұрын

Yl r so braindead, no one is asking them to be activists. Ppl are asking for awareness which is hella different

@cate499

4 ай бұрын

Taylor Swift donates and gives money.

@GeronFletcher

3 ай бұрын

Calm down and listen to

@Dp-love

Ай бұрын

Nothing will change unless everyone fights for all oppressed “freedom” to come to an end. People sitting by and “living their lives” isn’t helping anyone but themselves. Help make a change to the world, not sit by and be complicit in genocide, or sing your experiences as if they’re more important than marginalized communities oppression.

@ikennabede

Ай бұрын

Her experiences of living in the 1830s. Such nostalgia

better title: taylor swift and the unbearable racism in this podcast!

@GeronFletcher

3 ай бұрын

Listen

@OhWowIcantbelievethat

Ай бұрын

Feminism without intersectionality is NOT FEMINISM

@miladeseitan

Ай бұрын

Reverse racism DOESN'T EXIST

@FoodNerds

Ай бұрын

Why is it racism? Ok she’s white and people with the same culture gravitate to those things. No one says it’s racism when Beyonce attracts black listeners. Or when sports fans from a particular state or city like a sports team from that is from that city or state.