😂 Of course Zoom announced the F3 right after I recorded this video! Should I make a comparison video? P.S. This video was color graded with my color presets. Get them here: whoismatt.com/luts

@sky.london

2 жыл бұрын

Deffinatly, it''s going to be way cheaper and just what we need to.

@TamarackFilmCo

2 жыл бұрын

Yes!

@reckerproduction9468

2 жыл бұрын

This video and recorder makes a lot of sense for my budget

@JoshBirman

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! A comparison between those two would be amazing!!

@edcweddingfilms6795

2 жыл бұрын

Yessss. Comparison video please!

Again another super informative video! As always we appreciate the insight Matt!

Matt, good to know. I used to record weddings also but many, many years ago. Hefting a 70# reel to reel, all of the mics, cables, tripods, you get the idea. I remember one time during a mid summer July at a church with no A/C, windows open. OK the bride and groom are kneeling saying their I do's very softly,I might add. The gain is wide open and I'm straining to hear them on the phones. A worst fear happens, a fire engine drives by and guess what, yea, it happened the siren sounds off. Phones come off right away, VU's are maxed out. Now afterward, I'm home trying to fix this. Days later, I got it. I found another wedding and spliced in the correct passage and no one ever found out. They never knew.

@kolecava

2 жыл бұрын

King of Bodge, nicely done!

Amazing, cant wait to use this this year!

Thanks Matt! Perfect timing on this one for me. I need to upgrade for field doc work and this thing seems perfect :)

Great job, as usual Matt. Hope 2022 is treating you and yours well.

@whoismatt

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! :)

Bought it! Thanks again Matt! THanks for your videos that help me to become a wedding filmmaker and thanks for responding my mails!

Awesome video! Thanks for helping me out.

wow fantastic review! Always a big fan of your videos!

@whoismatt

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jack!

So glad you did a video on this! My tascam dr40 is 7 years old and due for an upgrade 😂 I was about to ask in your Facebook group the other day if anyone has gotten it yet! Keep killing it!

@whoismatt

2 жыл бұрын

Haha so your dr40 is almost as old as my h4n 😂😂

thanks for the review, bought one with your link from Amazon.

Great informative video and I love your enthusiasm. Thanks

@whoismatt

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Will!

That zoom f3 looks amazing! This Tascam looks amazing but two 32-bit inputs looks like more then enough from my needs. I love that there are so many 32-bit recorders coming out lately.

@richardmendez2269

Жыл бұрын

xlr/quarter inch combo is a deal breaker for me. need that.

@RESURRECT2

11 ай бұрын

*than

Always love getting your take on gear

Glad KZread recommended this video tome. Subscribed!

Looks like an awesome deal. On the wishlist now! Thanks.

Definitely getting one of these after seeing your posts about it! I was in the market for one anyways and this is exactly what I was looking for!

@whoismatt

2 жыл бұрын

👍 glad to help Bailey!

Awesome review! Thank You!

Matt you are the man,, i have worn out the play button on your videos, i trust your reviews and purchased the X8 appreciate your work brother...

Another great review, Matt

@whoismatt

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks :)

Looks like a handy recorder. Can't wait to get mine soon 😉👍

this kind of recorder ive been waiting for

stoked for a best settings guide on this puppy!

@whoismatt

2 жыл бұрын

Coming soon 😁

Great video Matt! Sounds like it's essentially like RAW but for audio :) I'v been using a Tascam DR40 but this looks like a great upgrade.

Dooood I’ve been using this for a week and it’s AMAZING!!!!! I’ve been selling Kaleb on it for a few days now! So glad to see this unexpected review!!! It’s so perfect for weddings and I’m using it to create my own catalog of foley and ambient sounds!!

@MastersonMedia

2 жыл бұрын

UGH I can't wait for my preorder to ship! You all are killing me by already having this.

@storybookfilms944

2 жыл бұрын

@@MastersonMedia I preordered from BH in November and was watching a KZread review that said they were available on Amazon! I cancelled my BH preorder (which is still not in stock) and got it from Amazon 1 day later! Currently Amazon says it’ll be delivered Jan 31. But Adorama has it in stock along with the Bluetooth module which I also ordered! Get on it, brother!

Thank you, so informative!

I love the added inputs and 1/4 capabilities. The flatter design is better to me IMO than the f3. I have it on order!

Just ordered this. Interesting about the zoom but I think this will still be the better choice in terms of features.

Thank you, you are great. I just wanted to buy the F6 and you saved me money and I will get better value for money

I bought mine last week! Haven’t had a chance to record anything meaningful, but playing around with it is a nice experience.

@whoismatt

2 жыл бұрын

👍👍

I have been using the Tentacle Sync Track E recorders. 2 as lav mics and another to plug into the dj board or speaker. 32 bit, small and they all have timecode Sync and a nice app to control all 3 from. I don't need multiple ports for weddings. 1 is fine and a couple of different cords.

Thanks for this video! Always struggling with audio!

@whoismatt

2 жыл бұрын

Always 😂

Good initial review Matt, this year the Zoom F2's replaced my Tuscan DR-10L's as main lava and I am using a Zoom F6 for single camera live streaming at present. 32b FP definitely helps loads for the screamers and super quiet brides. I think I might pickup this to replace my Zoom H5 now as I can use it with the built in mics for some recordings or plugin mics as needed.

@whoismatt

2 жыл бұрын

Nice! :)

@aristotle_4532

2 жыл бұрын

If you set 24bit recorders to a proper low recording level, there is no difference from a 32bit recording and no quality loss compared to a higher recording level. Real world recordings only require about 60dB dynamic range maximum. Pencil mics and lavaliers have high self noise and that is the only limitation in the recording chain. Studio microphones and special applications need more care. If you think you need 32bit, reduce the recording level by 15dBs and try again.

@NickBuntonStudios

2 жыл бұрын

@@aristotle_4532 Point taken on board thanks, however with the majority of my recordings being at funerals or weddings, I don't have the luxury of rehearsals or testing with those who's voice I will be recording, this is where the FP recordings is beneficial. If live streaming, then it's fine with 24bit as I can control the received audio from the mixer to control an output around the -12db.

I have never been a fan of zoom and I find it funny people are now trying Tascam. Long before 32-bit float Tascam on there 60Dmk1 and mkii, 70D and 701D field recorders all have dual recording which means you can record a back up track at a -db at your desire. My Tascam 701D is a beast and when I get the spare cash I might upgrade to this unit, but my hopes are they integrate the 701D with this new X8 technology. Great Review and look forward to more of your videos!

Just got one and I’m stoked with it so far.. Use direct boxes!! :)

Nice lighting setup

This is great! What do you use to edit your audio?

Great Video💯👍

Awesome, I was looking forward to getting the Sound Devices Mix Pre 3 II but I guess I'll go with this cos it's cheaper

I film concerts, live theatre and dance shows. It is not uncommon for a someone to be at one level during the audio check and then get much louder during the performance. This is what partially drew me to the Sound Devices Mix Pre 3. It has outstanding analogue limiters that almost function as a compressor. Mine is the first generation of the Mix Pre 3 so it doesn't have the 32 bit float, but it has never been a problem for me.

AHHH Filmmaking gear is getting sooo good and the prices too!! I'm so tempted to pick one up immediately hahaha Matt why do you do this to me? 😭😂

@whoismatt

2 жыл бұрын

😂😬 sorryyyyyy! It’s not my fault all these companies keep making cool camera gear!

@SlideWreckDan

2 жыл бұрын

@@whoismatt Don't shoot the messenger! 😂

Great video. Been using the H4ns for over 10 years as well and was wondering when I'd be tempted to upgrade.

@whoismatt

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Definitely tempting haha

@rsmith02

2 жыл бұрын

I'm waiting for the Zoom 32-bit H4N or H5 replacement myself. Should come out sooner or later.

OK I'm convinced I need one. But which cables do I need to be prepared for all possible situations at a wedding? Thanks Matt!

You sold me dude! Just put my order in (using your Amazon link)!

@whoismatt

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy love you

32 bit is a tempting proposition I have a Tascsm DR-40 that I use with headphones to get a good level prior to starting the recording.

32bit audio wow Good stuff and great insight review thanks!!!

I've got a zoom F3. Both are great. Each has its own good point. Looking forward to your comparison review. :)

@whoismatt

2 жыл бұрын

You already got an f3? They haven’t even announced the price yet 😂

@ABCsangatsure

2 жыл бұрын

@@whoismatt 　In Japan, first lot has been delivered. :)

@johndaniel4532

2 жыл бұрын

Can you use timecode sync with f3?

I've always used an H6 and split the XLR into two inputs. It's having two separate levels and fantastic. I've been thinking about the f1 because of the flexibility you're talking about here and now zoom has their new XLR f3 I may be in the market for a new recorder as well. Hopefully, the zoom one doesn't have a touch screen.

@whoismatt

2 жыл бұрын

Looking like the f3 doesn’t have a touch screen so you should be good

Hey Matt, great video anything about using it directly into a PA a more detailed video thanks!

Been rocking a Zoom F6 and LOVE it. But damn I would be looking hard at the F3 if I didn't have the F6. This looks nice too. Love 32 bit float. Also TIMECODE!!!

Amazing Review! ONE BIG QUESTION (and I'm sorry if you did say it in the video) Does the X8 allow you to power the XLR inputs? 12, 24, 48v?

@whoismatt

2 жыл бұрын

Yes

@ItsTippToppFishing

2 жыл бұрын

@@whoismatt amazing! Thanks so much for the reply!

Great video Matt! Can you do the audio recovery of highs and lows in your own non linear editor of choice? Or do you do you have to use Tascam’s own software?

@whoismatt

2 жыл бұрын

Should be able to change the audio levels in any audio software

@brennanspark

2 жыл бұрын

@@whoismatt thanks Matt 😃

@rsmith02

2 жыл бұрын

It works in Vegas Pro, should work in anything.

Tnx a lot ❤❤❤

Hi Matt. My questions have nothing to do with the recorder. However, I would like to know ; 1. Do you shoot the whole wedding day? 2.. How do you pick what must be included in the final edit? 3. Do you include pieces from all speeches?

@whoismatt

2 жыл бұрын

1. Yep all day 2. Choose the parts of the day that best convey who the couple is and their relationship 3. Not always, depends on who talks and what they say

@yomentsmedia

2 жыл бұрын

@@whoismatt Thanks alot! Valuable insight 👌🏽

I'm sold....and pre-ordered!

Still loving my Sony pcm d50 and d100.

thanks Matt

Good review - how do I turn on the speaker inside to hear what I record?

I’m using the Zoom f2 for the same purpose. 32 bit float audio. I don’t have a handheld XLR Recorder, but I was looking into the Zoom f6. But with it being $700, this Tascam X8 is looking much better.

@whoismatt

2 жыл бұрын

X8 is a pretty killer deal :)

@pocketski

10 ай бұрын

will zoom f2 work same way as Tascam x8 if I connect it to DJ's mixer as a backup to record speeches? Looking for something compact without huge screen

Question: When you combine/plugin the rode wireless go ii with the tascam x8. Does the 32 bit float still working in this combo (tascam x8 / rode wireless go ii)? Sorry for the bad english.. BR Shmuel from switzerland

@whoismatt Hi Matt, I have one more question, have you tested the equalizer? Is it possible to properly adjust the bass and treble tones if they are too high at the input? is it efficient?

Looks like the F3 doesn't have that combo xlr/quarter port though, that's a no go for me. I rarely use it but sometimes I've had to use the quarter port. Maybe my xlr cord was tied up somewhere else or the DJ had some weird non-xlr output that I had to adapt to. I currently use the Dr-60mkii which works good, but it's friggin huge in my bag. Especially with the battery pack attached to it as it only records 4 hours max off of internal battery power, which is risky for weddings. So the 8-9 hours the X8 promises without the use of a battery pack is quite promising! Great review Matt, and the point about the microphone reaching it's max before the recorder is a very interesting point that I've never heard before but makes sense! And shouts out to DJ Durrell from Signature Events!

@whoismatt

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! He's a great DJ :)

Did you check the phone app controller for the X8? I would really like to hear what you think of that and how extensive it is.

Would love you even more if you compared a typical Zoom F6 setup vs Tascam Portacapture X8 setup

@whoismatt

2 жыл бұрын

👍

Hi Matt 🙂 Thx for vid! Question: If we used the Sure SM7B with this recorder, would you suggest using a cloudlifter, OR would you suggest increasing the levels on the Tascam? (For 32 bit float recording) OR... is there no need to set levels with the 32 bit float? Also: Do you feel the pre-amp is better on Tascam X8 or Zoom F3? Thx :-)

@whoismatt

Жыл бұрын

I would try without the cloudlifter first. Just set your levels and see how it sounds when editing. You should have a ton of flexibility to make adjustments. Preamp between x8 and f3 are both pretty similar.

Seems great for recording car sounds too

Good review Matt. I’ve been using the Zoom F6 for just over a year now, and I preordered the X8 a while back. I typically like to record to my talents (groom, officiant, sometimes bride, ceremony reader) to the recorder and send select mics to the camera to embed the audio into the video. My question….Does the Tascam X8 have faders like the F6 that allow you to send select lines to the camera but still record full volume to the X8? To illustrate: I have groom, officiant, and ceremony reader mic’d going to the recorder, then a line from the recorder to the camera to embed audio into video. I have the officiant’s fader turned up but groom and reader turned down, so it’s sending only the officiant audio to the camera. But if I forget to turn up the groom or reader’s mic fader on the recorder, it obviously won’t send the audio to the camera but the F6 will still record groom and reader’s mic. Does the Tascam X8 do the same?

@whoismatt

2 жыл бұрын

Didn’t get a chance to test this before sending the x8 back to Tascam, sorry about that

With the h4n.. you split the signal with a Y connector and use an attenuator which helps with clipping

@pocketski

10 ай бұрын

I use zoom h1n with attenuator and connect it to the speaker as a backup. And still some MCs can make it clipping

Great review, thx Matt. I actually just sold my mixpre 6-ii last week and have the X8 on pre-order to replace it. I was wondering if u know if there are other additional plug-in detachable mics that are compatible with the X8 besides the ones that come with the unit?

@whoismatt

2 жыл бұрын

You should be able to plug-in anything with a 3.5 mm audio Jack

@patentjohntran1283

2 жыл бұрын

@@whoismatt thx! any recs for a good micro SD card for the x8? Sandisk ultra? extreme? v30?

I'm new to recorders. Does this have a "auto" function like camera mics do or is it fully manual only?

Hi, Can you name recorded audio file after recording using touchscreen of this recorder ? I am waiting for a handheld recorder which can offer quick recording naming during or after recording and additionally would be nice to add some tags and categories, so it's easier going trough many gigabytes of recordings on drive of computer after the import.

Happy with my Zoom H6, when I see how many things can be setup by pressing buttons or using wheels. Imho its much better than using a display and I'm not talking about using the touch display at all. It may be convenient somewhere, but not in the professional sphere.

@nateethington76

2 жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more, I think the worst piece of gear I ever bought was the Zoom H4n. It wasted so much time at weddings right at the busiest time. The H6 was a huge upgrade and it was mainly just for the knobs and built-in attenuators. Bummer that neither of these new recorders has knobs.

@markshirley01

2 жыл бұрын

@@nateethington76 so you prefer the Zoom H6

@matthewchanmh

2 жыл бұрын

@@markshirley01 with this price I wont do the X8 tho

Thank you. could you suggest a reasonably priced high-quality microphone.?

Hey Matt, did you see that the new Instamic Pro Plus records in 32 bit now? It's only $219, feels like a steal.

Hi Matt, great review as always! One (for me) main feature the F6 & SDMixPre II have, but the Tasacam X8 and Zoom F3 lack is Timecode! Especially when you use Tentacle Sync E and Track E devices the X8 and F3 fall short in jaming timecode. The only work around is to buy an additional Sync E and feed it to a channel for the whole time of recording and this would add up the cost.

@whoismatt

2 жыл бұрын

Forgot to mention that the X8 supports timecode if you buy the bluetooth adapter :)

@georgspandl767

2 жыл бұрын

@@whoismatt ….which is very limited as you can not sync any cameras with unless you use every camera with a ninja v, which is pointless for wedding videographers.

@johndaniel4532

2 жыл бұрын

@@whoismatt are you sure Bluetooth adapter will work with tentacle sync e/track e?

Still using my H4N almost 7 yrs now .

What do you use for a backup mic?

Have a Deity TC-1 time code generator. (3) Can the Tascam X8 work with the time code jammer? Was going to use time code with the X8 with 32 bit float. Then also feed into the x8 the DJI Lav on the groom and officiant. Each camera will have its own timecode jammer on them. TC-1's. Will this work? Should I forget timecode. I still have the tc-1 in the Amazon box LOL... want to be sure that I can make this work?

So I realize there are lots of benefits to recording in 32 bit float. However, one thing that confuses me about recording a feed off an event's sound board: if someone start screaming into the mic and clips the audio, wouldn't that clip within the board as well? If the signal clips upstream from the recorder then it doesn't matter how it's recorded.

@whoismatt

2 жыл бұрын

You're absolutely correct, which is why I always recommend plugging into the microphone receiver box as well as the sound board. There's usually a quarter inch output on the receiver box that you can use and that bypasses the sound board completely. :)

You can bring up the level of a too-quiet signal made on _any_ digital recorder with the same results. 32-bit Float is not special in this regard. Where you _might_ find it useful is in preserving loud sounds that would otherwise have clipped in a Linear PCM recording. However, realize two things: 1) 24-bit LPCM already provides something like 144dB of dynamic range, which is broad enough to cleanly capture everything from a gnat's fart to a jackhammer. 2) You are always constrained by the circuit in your signal path with the lowest dynamic range. The preamps on most recorders (with ~90dB dyhamic range best case) will crap out (i.e. distort) well before the converters clip, and no amout of floating bits will recover that. In most situations (presuming a 24-bit recorder with decent, quiet preamps) if you set your inputs to peak at around -30 dBFS you'll be able to capture clean dialog and still have enough of a cushion for erratic DJ levels or for when that overenthusiastic, wasted bridesmaid grabs the mic and shrieks at the top of her lungs (been there).

How would this compare to the zoom f6? Similar price points I see

Nice vid… This was a cool commercial for Tascam Matt… at 500 bucks… this is not the budget friendly option for an early wedding filmmaker… all you need is 2x Zoom F2 recorders… one for the DJ’s sound desk and one for the bride(maybe another for groom or officiant) Total will be half the price and free lac mics and 3x recordings for backup… all being 32bit… The Tascam is so pretty that you would need tracker tags with motion sensors on it, in case it goes walkies… the F8 is also better if you also do other job types requiring a sound bag.

Finally finally finally!

@whoismatt

2 жыл бұрын

😁👍

Hello, I just bought the Portacapture x8. The user manual indicates the maximum card capacity would be only 512 GB. I need more (512 BG can be too limited with 32-bit recording). Have you checked if it is possible to use 1TB or 1.5TB microSDcards (Lexar, SanDisk...) ?

“Well Built Plastic”?!?!?! Lololol I’m thinking about purchasing.

You convinced me. Were i get one!!

@whoismatt

2 жыл бұрын

Amazon has them in stock right now

Great video Matt. I have used the Zoom H6 in most of my weddings and some of my commercial videos. It has a padded option to record a seperate audio track for each of the inputs at a lower level. It is supposed to give redundant audio recording. I have not tested it and have had one wedding peak so I will test that out to get a feel for it. Have you ever tried it?

@FFHavoK

2 жыл бұрын

That's not quite the same as 32 bit float. What the H6 records is a safety track that is simply a lower gain level. I use the Zoom F6 and it actually processes the loud and soft separately and in 32 bit float, which gives a huge flexibility and dynamic range for your audio adjustment both in the quiet and the loud ranges.

@landwaterandthewild

2 жыл бұрын

@@FFHavoK yes, I understand mate. I know they are different but just wondering if the 32 bit floating is 100% necessary for me. The way I see it is that padded could make lose the lower levels and normal could lose the higher levels. I imagine the range would be much better with 32 bit floating because I wouldn't have to mix padded with normal to recover the extremes

@budrowilson

2 жыл бұрын

@@landwaterandthewild Think of it this way. The safety track is only protecting you if the audio you're recording becomes unexpectedly louder. On the other hand, 32-bit float recording allows you to bring down the loud audio as well as bring up sounds that were much quieter than anticipated without significantly increasing the noise floor (you'll still increase other quiet sounds).

@landwaterandthewild

2 жыл бұрын

@@budrowilson yes, I figured that. Was just wondering if the dual tracks could be safe enough

@budrowilson

2 жыл бұрын

@@landwaterandthewild Personally, I've been dissatisfied with safety track recordings in the past. They work in a pinch, but 32-bit float is a game-changer. After switching to the Sound Devices Mix Pre-3 II almost 2 years ago, I can't imagine going back.

Tried it, but bit a fan. It’s got it’s used though. I’m waiting for new releases this summer.. 🤷‍♂️👍🏼

How would you compare this or the d10l to like let’s say the Deity Connect system?

Can we connected a 3.5mm TRS mic (Rode videomic NTG) directly, not sure if I understood right? thanks

I'm waiting for a one or two track 32 bit recorder (The F3 may be what I need depending on how hefty it is). I want something small, but I also need to be able to record line in. I don't really want to pay for 4 or more tracks if I don't need to.

@whoismatt

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah F3 looking like a really nice option

To be fair, the Zoom H series aren't great. We use the F6 and absolutely love it. We may compare it with the Tascam eventually

Hi! Matt, please tell me the reason why the phantom function for 48v powered microphones cannot be activated. Power Save Mode appears on the screen. Thank you.

I have the mix pre 3 II.. 32bit and use it powerbank powered and 32 bit is definitely the way to go and worth the investment. I do wonder how much longer it will take Rode to come up with a wireless go 32bit transmitter cause I’m sure that may happen one day as well. Not sure if it’s possible in such a small form factor but I’m curious though 😊

@whoismatt

2 жыл бұрын

I’m betting they will figure it out eventually :)

@jimvh7557

2 жыл бұрын

@@whoismatt And most of the time just after you bought there previous version 😉 So I’ll wait long enough this time!

Sold!

related to the video may I ask you create video how you import 32 bit for 24 bit audio , putting it into sequence and try to render. Even I record 9600 to 24 bit sound whenever I put into premiere there is no settings about it. and no more than 4800hz allow to do it.

I wish it had and npf mount like the f6 ... i just like big npf more than AA

Thanks Matt

EIN for zoom F3 preamp are -127dBu or less no informations about the tascam X8

So, if a strong sound exceed the limit of the microphone those 32bit they recovery? I dont think so.