TARJA vs FLOOR - Vocal Coach reacts to Tarja - Sleeping Sun (Live)

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Original Video without interruption: • Nightwish - Sleeping S...
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Nightwish is a Finnish symphonic metal band from Kitee. The band was formed in 1996 by lead songwriter and keyboardist Tuomas Holopainen, guitarist Emppu Vuorinen, and former lead singer Tarja Turunen.
"Sleeping Sun" is a power ballad and the fourth single by Finnish symphonic metal band Nightwish. It was released as a maxi single with three other songs on 2 August 1999 to coincide with the total solar eclipse that would occur on 11 August.
Songwriters: Tuomas Holopainen
Producers: Nightwish
Genre: Symphonic metal
Origin: Caverock, Kitee, Finland
Finnvox, Helsinki, Finland
Performed by Nightwish
* Tarja Turunen - vocals
* Tuomas Holopainen - keyboards
* Emppu Vuorinen - guitars
* Jukka Nevalainen - drums
* Sami Vänskä - bass guitar
* Floor Jansen
Date and Location
2018
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  • @BethRoars
    @BethRoars6 ай бұрын

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  • @nicod1361

    @nicod1361

    5 ай бұрын

    reactors should know that it's never a good idea to compare singers in a "vs" manner from the same band especially with NW given their history

  • @GeorgeValkov

    @GeorgeValkov

    4 ай бұрын

    Tarja (reads Tarya) is one of my favourite and most epic singers in the world, along with Sharon den Adel, Simone Simons and you Beth. 🧡

  • @Patryn71
    @Patryn715 ай бұрын

    There are songs that I think fit Tarja better, and songs that fit Floor better. I will never say one singer was better than the other for everything because they're not. I personally think this song fits Tarja's style better and enjoy it more with her singing. But there are songs that once Floor sings them she owns them. Also, let's not forget about Anette. Where as she wasn't that good (IMO mind you) on the more classical pieces, she could sing the hell out of their rock songs that were written for her. Every singer has their strengths and weaknesses.

  • @biglew1161

    @biglew1161

    5 ай бұрын

    completely agree, I have a preference for one over the other but they are all great in there own way. Anette wasn't as strong live (my opinion) but as you said she can sing the hell out of songs written for her. I may like a singer better than another, but will never say one is better than the other. after all, Floor and Tarja are still good friends.

  • @AntonNidhoggr

    @AntonNidhoggr

    4 ай бұрын

    There are some old songs that fit Tarja perfectly, the epic ones (Wishmaster etc.), cause she has such a notable classy ‘fantasy’ timbre. Floor is better in Celtic or brutal/metal stuff because of her warrior energy 😅

  • @2727rogers

    @2727rogers

    4 ай бұрын

    Yes I agree 100%. I am a Nightwish fan first and while I love Floor I would also agree that Tarja on this song is outstanding. You really can't go wrong with a Nighwish song for sure.

  • @Ephelle

    @Ephelle

    4 ай бұрын

    Yeah, it always kinda weirded me out hearing one of them sing a song that was written for a different singer. They each had their own style and the songs were definitely written with them in mind. Maybe it's just because I'm used to the version of each song that I heard first, but I can't think of any other bands or singers where it was so obvious to me that they're singing someone else's song.

  • @Patryn71

    @Patryn71

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Ephelle AC/DC comes to mind. :D To me no one can sing a Bon Scott song the way he did. I have the utmost respect for Brian Johnson and what he's done for the band, but the way Bon sang is completely different to the way Brian sings. Hearing Brian sing Dirty Deeds makes me cringe a bit, but then I try to imagine Bon singing Thunderstruck and I just can't. A new singer joining a band does they best they can with older songs. Sometimes they knock it out of the park, and sometimes it's just not the same.

  • @jbd4508
    @jbd45084 ай бұрын

    Both are beautiful and I like them. But.. Tarja's voice is easy to recognize from 1000 blind auditions from the first note.

  • @Mikeysixkiller

    @Mikeysixkiller

    12 күн бұрын

    It's this easy for me. Tarja makes me feel a way. Goodbumps. Bone marrow vibrating. She takes you places. Floor not as much. Both are good. Fine, No complaint. But Tarja is special. And it matched with Marko and Jukka.

  • @leatheredlife4861
    @leatheredlife48613 ай бұрын

    Floor is a great singer... she is perfect for nightwish today, there is no better choice. But she has one problem: she came after Tarja. And most of the early nightwish-fans, who "grew up" with Tarja and all these songs, fell in love with them - with the band, with this classical metal combination, that was something completely new in that time. It was a great time, that will never come back again. Nightwish has many new great songs, but these old songs - they were Tarja-Songs, and they will always be. When Floor sings them, it just feels like a cover (but of course a good cover 😄)

  • @stromerbuffy2203

    @stromerbuffy2203

    3 ай бұрын

    true words! I love Floor and their style how she is singing the old Nightwish songs, but the old songs were always Tarja Songs

  • @jacekjackson6903
    @jacekjackson69035 ай бұрын

    Now you need to check out Tarja and Steven'seaguls. They done amazing cover of this lovely song. Metal greatings 🤘

  • @NeeceLoneWolf

    @NeeceLoneWolf

    5 ай бұрын

    Oh yes

  • @tuuli4002
    @tuuli40025 ай бұрын

    Thank you!! Tarja and Floor are so different singers. I love them both!!

  • @anacarolinacb25
    @anacarolinacb254 ай бұрын

    Tarja tem uma voz incrivel classica lirica. Amoo ❤

  • @cabuloso4298

    @cabuloso4298

    4 ай бұрын

    Tarja tinha a cara do Nightwish

  • @strabel803
    @strabel8035 ай бұрын

    Yes, very different in their aproach but,both outstanding singers and regarded by many,as the top in their craft. Preferences will always have some "discusions" (say the least)but these ladies have earned their place in music history. Well done Beth.👍🤘 greetings from Spain.

  • @zotharr
    @zotharr5 ай бұрын

    Finally a Tarja video, thank you :)

  • @kajlennartsson4234
    @kajlennartsson42345 ай бұрын

    Tarja and Floor is great singers. You are amazing Beth. Your reaction videos is wonderful.

  • @ferencercseyravasz7301
    @ferencercseyravasz73015 ай бұрын

    Now you understand what Tuomas meant in "Dead Boy's Poem" when he wrote "Wrote for the eclipse, wrote for the virgin...".

  • @laudatosiadastra1218
    @laudatosiadastra12185 ай бұрын

    One of the most beautiful songs I have ever heard by any band. Both Tarja and Floor are simply breathtaking to listen to. So nice to watch your reaction.

  • @charliepeterson7168
    @charliepeterson71685 ай бұрын

    I love the comparison between two singers singing the same song. I hope you do more like this.

  • @adoryntriggerhappy
    @adoryntriggerhappy5 ай бұрын

    Oh by surprise, you did both singers. But even just beth and tarja are fire. Great you were doing your videos all over the years 🙏 thanks Beth !

  • @NeeceLoneWolf
    @NeeceLoneWolf5 ай бұрын

    The Crow, The Owl and The Dove. Anette and Marko singing together makes me very emotional.

  • @johnhmaloney
    @johnhmaloney6 ай бұрын

    Great video! Without hearing them side by side, I don't think I would have expected the two of them to approach the same song so differently. I'd love to see you do more comparisons like this. :)

  • @Danyb99
    @Danyb995 ай бұрын

    Tarja always was my favorite nightwish's singer so underrated but she's a Finland treasure and always will be love so much her style i would like you hopefully react her music solo like "I walk alone"or "until my last breath" among others great songs she had.

  • @maoushiki8506

    @maoushiki8506

    3 ай бұрын

    finland let her star live in Argentina XDDDDDD and she enriched so much with arg folk music. that for sure that Tarja now has x2 x4 better than that tarja

  • @YoAuDHD
    @YoAuDHD5 ай бұрын

    I appreciate your approach. I often see people in comments on social media pitting these women against each other as if it's a competition and their approaches to music and sound are so different but so great. It's nice to see that highlighted. 💙

  • @davidbentley4032

    @davidbentley4032

    2 ай бұрын

    What? If 'TARJA vs FLOOR ' (that is her own headline) isn't a competition then what is?

  • @PetraPola
    @PetraPola5 ай бұрын

    Thanks so much for getting back to Tarja. 🖤Sleeping Sun is a beautiful song, and I love Tarja's version from the Metal Church concert or her recent cover with Steve 'n' Seagulls. In the first case, I find her voice much cleaner, and in the second, it's an interesting combination with the bluegrass style. Overall, I prefer Tarja's cleaner voice as she developed it after leaving Nightwish. But of course I love her work with the band too so much. She was amazing with them too. From Metal Church, I highly recommend her cover of Avegend Sevenfold's Afterlife. She uses her voice very diversely there.

  • @andypullin4702
    @andypullin47024 ай бұрын

    Tuomas is so good at writing for the singer (and musicians) that he has with him, and also allowing them to put their own slant on the music.

  • @ulfvesterlund2160
    @ulfvesterlund21605 ай бұрын

    Christmas 2022 i was in Tallinn, Estonia watching her special short tour show "Christmas Together" she was singing most of the classical songs, was so beautiful, a lot of people crying :) But regarding Nightwish, happy that i got to see her sing when she was still in the band and when they were on their peak :)

  • @markclements7767
    @markclements77675 ай бұрын

    Hello Beth, welcome back and greetings from Reading, UK Another fantastic reaction, thank you 😉

  • @Andy_from_de
    @Andy_from_de6 ай бұрын

    I agree that hboth are fantastic vocalists in their own rights, and any discussion if any one is "better" than the other is null and void from the get go. In the Nightwish backlog, there are some songs that are suited maybe a little more for the one or the other type of singing, and one can enjoy the different approaches. And it is strictly my own opinion that over all, Floor just has a few more tools in her box and over the whole discography, brings more variety to the table. Tarja is firmly rooted in the more operatic style, while Floor... as the saying goes, Floor doesn't sing what she can, but sings what she wants. We get to hear anything from growls over powerful belts to goosebumps inducing operatic style (Shoemaker! Ad Astra!).

  • @karadenizin-kizi

    @karadenizin-kizi

    5 ай бұрын

    Tarja's signature sound is definitely the more operatic one, but at this point she also has a chestier _and_ a lighter voice that she uses, which I love!! Have you seen her perforn House of Wax - live at Genelec Artist Room? So unlike anything you'd expect from her but definitely showing she's less limited than people assume :) You should check it our if you haven't seen it, just out of curiousity maybe! :)

  • @mattoverho1

    @mattoverho1

    4 ай бұрын

    "I agree that hboth are fantastic vocalists in their own rights, and any discussion if any one is "better" than the other is null and void from the get go.- - And it is strictly my own opinion that over all, Floor just has a few more tools in her box and over the whole discography - -". I see you really don't know that Tarja has amazing range and many singing techniques as well.

  • @vovin1976
    @vovin19765 ай бұрын

    It is so so hard, both are so great. 😊

  • @rnowak85
    @rnowak855 ай бұрын

    Lovely reaction. I really enjoyed the insights and analysis on the different techniques that they used to create a beautiful and powerful performance. This is one song where I love both Tarja and Floor's performances equally. Different but equally powerful and emotional.

  • @gfinetti
    @gfinetti5 ай бұрын

    Great video Beth! Congrats

  • @ericzeichert511
    @ericzeichert5115 ай бұрын

    Absolutely the vocal duel I have been waiting for...Thank you Beth for taking this on.

  • @ominayu
    @ominayu5 ай бұрын

    Hey Beth there is a version with Steve'n'seagulls, listen to your joy it is amazing.

  • @VivianaRaquelGonzalez-1988

    @VivianaRaquelGonzalez-1988

    5 ай бұрын

    Yes Sleeping Sun Tarja and Steven'N' Seagull año 2021😍🧜🏻‍♀️👑🔥🔥

  • @martintebbutt4732
    @martintebbutt47325 ай бұрын

    Hi Beth both girls are great vocalist I think tarja has a slightly darker tune to her vocals which to me sounds very medieval with floor being lighter also great musicians please can you explain the difference between head and chest voice have a great weekend 🤘🤘🎸🎼

  • @IvetHere
    @IvetHere4 ай бұрын

    I believe that Tarja has something that other people can't put a finger on and that in my opinion is that she is very feminine flowy and open when she is singing. Almost vulnerable. There's no particular aggression, anger, or defensiveness in her voice and overall expression. She brought that all and genuine softness into the aggressive powerful sound of Nightwish. You can't fake this and you can't do this if you don't really mean it. And that's why Nightwish and her worked together so well and uniquely. It doesn't seem to be that case with the other singers, in my opinion. I saw her live a year ago during her Christmas tour and boy the amount of love you feel from her when she starts singing...

  • @MrMvidz
    @MrMvidzАй бұрын

    Floor is my #1, but this is one of those songs that Tarja owns 100 %.

  • @eaglepass5170
    @eaglepass51705 ай бұрын

    Excellent!!

  • @user-xd5nv2hs8v
    @user-xd5nv2hs8v4 ай бұрын

    I am very happy that you appreciate both singers and just point out the differences. Many commenters speak ill of one of the two singers. This is daft because it is so obvious that both singers are of high quality. And apart from this the song is absolutely beautiful as are many songs that Tuomas Holopainen wrote for Nightwish. Thank you!

  • @zotharr
    @zotharr5 ай бұрын

    When it comes to Tarja, I was very anti-Floor (even though I only saw her with Nightwish 2 times live), and my first impression with this video was, that you cant really compare Floor with Tarja. But I started to notice now great Floor is singing some parts. It is different, but still great. My love for Tarja's version didnt let me see this, but now I could hear it more clearly :) Even though lots of people love Floor, I did underestimated her, but this comparison helped me see her greatness as well, thank you

  • @birdec765
    @birdec7655 ай бұрын

    Not related, I was listening to my Robin Trower compilation and I noticed in places that Jimmy Dewar's vocals had been doubled occasionally and he uses (to me) a surprising amount of vibrato which is reflected in the guitar effects sometimes. This is because of you telling us about these things. I experianced music that I'd been listening to since it was new in a new way today after literally decades of hearing it. Thank you so much, I'm properly happy about this. I'm adding your Patreon😊

  • @BethRoars

    @BethRoars

    5 ай бұрын

    This is so lovely!

  • @sofiamunoz141
    @sofiamunoz1414 ай бұрын

    I really really loved the way you taught in this video. Thanks you ❤

  • @tereflores1316
    @tereflores131613 күн бұрын

    This song is for Tarja ❤

  • @robertpetre9378
    @robertpetre93785 ай бұрын

    Thank you for reacting to my favourite song by Nightwish

  • @beernmetal6964
    @beernmetal69643 ай бұрын

    You may not read this since it's a month too late, but I read that Tarja said this was a difficult song because the breathing was so much different than what her training taught her (or something like that). I think both Tarja and Floor are great and I like that you show the difference of how they were trained kinda defines how they sing differently.

  • @NightwishArena
    @NightwishArena5 ай бұрын

    Some days I prefer to listen to old Nightwish, some days I prefer new. They are both fantastic indeed ❤

  • @laudatosiadastra1218

    @laudatosiadastra1218

    5 ай бұрын

    100%

  • @oscararzate7956
    @oscararzate79565 ай бұрын

    Maravilloso lo que acabo de escuchar esa voz en conjunto con la música me encantó mucho bien mi H Prrj ❤ tu reacción fabulosa Beth 💥👏👏🍀🍀

  • @annaoophoto5259
    @annaoophoto52592 ай бұрын

    Not only to cut throught an opera, but to go LOUD be heard and sing 5 times a week, so opera sing protects vocal cords

  • @AvidCat5000
    @AvidCat50005 ай бұрын

    I forgot how much I loved this band. A fan ever since the Alone in The Dark soundtrack.

  • @paulc2317
    @paulc23174 ай бұрын

    Not to mention that Tarja sings it on a higher tunning

  • @stuartharris4062
    @stuartharris40625 ай бұрын

    Awesome Beth

  • @HelMut3103
    @HelMut31034 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this reaction. Tarja is my favorite female singer since 25 years. She has such a unique and beautiful voice. But also powerful. There’s something special and magical in it. She not only studied here in Germany. Tarja also studied in Finland. At a Highschool for music and at the famous Sibelius Academy. She was the first to graduate with top grade. The Nightwish songs from Tarja’s era will always belong to her. 🤘🏻

  • @pfg72
    @pfg7224 күн бұрын

    You have probably already seen it, but I'd love to hear your insights on the "Phantom of the Opera" live performance with Tarja at the helm. Cheers from Patagonia!

  • @antoniodelamer
    @antoniodelamer3 ай бұрын

    Tarja es la luz¡¡

  • @Uriel-Septim.
    @Uriel-Septim.5 ай бұрын

    Both versions are beautiful.

  • @ptdoria88
    @ptdoria8812 күн бұрын

    I DONT BELIEVE YOU NOT LISTENED TE VOCALIST OF GRAND FUNK RAILROAD , YET !!!! MY GOD ! STOP THE PLANET EARTH 😂😂😂😂 . YOU ARE MY BEST REACTOR ! Beth.... i hear you calling......😂😂😂😂😂

  • @larryc3860
    @larryc38602 ай бұрын

    Before there was Floor there was Tarja.......with Simone of 'Epica', these 3 symphonic metal/classical vocalists are just the best ........

  • @Cole205
    @Cole2054 ай бұрын

    Tarja is a goddess of the wind. Floor is like a goddess of the sea. Both great. I have more sentimentality for Floor because I've seen her live twice.

  • @yuriykorotkevych8838
    @yuriykorotkevych88385 ай бұрын

    Thank you for paying attention and appreciating Nightwish of Tarja's era. It looks like most of reactors on KZread are obsessed with Floor and almost totally ignore the band in its earlier years. Don't get me wrong, Floor does great job in the band, including singing of many Tarja's era songs brilliantly, but Tarja was also great in the band and the band was great with her. "Sleeping Sun" is one of the songs that's been and will remain a song for Tarja to sing, imho. As a side note: please, don't pronounce it like /ʤ/ in her name. It's close to /j/, like in "you".

  • @TorIverWilhelmsen

    @TorIverWilhelmsen

    4 ай бұрын

    ... but no one much react to Anette Olzon who joined for two years or so in-between (but apparently could not handle the rigorous touring schedule). The Blaze Bailey of Nightwish :)

  • @christophschmedes5975
    @christophschmedes59753 ай бұрын

    The original Nightwish Band is Thomas Holopainen Jukka Nervalainen Empu Vuirinen Gitarr sorry I forgot the Name from the first Bassist of Nightwish

  • @user-uw2qk4ue7l
    @user-uw2qk4ue7lАй бұрын

    Tarja is just another level

  • @orothien
    @orothien2 ай бұрын

    Floor is perfect... humanly... Tarja is just magic!

  • @Shankulaaa
    @Shankulaaa4 ай бұрын

    It's like comparing apples and oranges. They're both awesome and delicious in their individual way... it's just up to personal preference. For me personally, I like Floor, she's got a hell of a stage presence, but there is only one Tarja, and her style fits the ORIGINAL Nightwish sound better for me. Tarja has a power and purity in her notes that Floor just doesn't have for me, and her range is far superior.

  • @b0bb0wen
    @b0bb0wen2 ай бұрын

    Both are amazing... but I would choose Tarja first anyday!!

  • @andrewmudgett5715
    @andrewmudgett57153 ай бұрын

    I love Tarja and I love Floor. 🍎’s & 🍊’s but both are great.

  • @mb8132
    @mb81323 ай бұрын

    I love both but Tarja owns this one.

  • @VivianaRaquelGonzalez-1988
    @VivianaRaquelGonzalez-19885 ай бұрын

    Me encantó lo profesional que fuiste al comparar los contrastes distintos de ambas cantantes es de aplaudir no cualquier reactor interpreta de esta forma siempre lo hacen anteponiendo el favoritismo estupendo análisis y te recomiendo a Tarja como SOLISTA porfavor si puedes analizar su rango vocal es que aún sigue estudiando canto y vocalización en la actualidad de hecho para Tarja su prioridad es de cuidar su voz tiene inclusive unos tratamientos para sus cuerdas vocales para no perder esa voz aguda estridente gótica espeluznante y teatral super versátil de acuerdo como a ella le parece toca notas vocales increíbles aqui te dejo un listado de canciones de Tarja con su propia banda creada desde el año 2006 Supremacy cover de Muse en el Woodstock 2016 Víctim of Ritual desde woodstock 2016 Over the Hills an fard Away desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 Innocense desde Live Circus Life 2022 Diva desde Life Circus Life 2022 Naiad desde Life Circus Life 2022 Shadow Play desde Live Circus Life 2022 Until my last Breath desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 I WALK ALONE desde el Teatro Círculo de Rosario Argentina 2012 Tarja y Scorpions The Good Die Young Live 2010 Tarja y Doro Pesch Walking whit The Angels Live 2009 Tarja y Whitin Temptation Paradise desde M'era Luna 2016 Tarja y Alissa White_Gluz Demons in you Wacken 2016 Tarja cover de Nightwish Nemo desde Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 Tarja Sing for me Masters of Rock 2016 Tarja Walking in the Air desde Raskata Joulua 2018 Tarja Never Enough desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 Tarja Medley de Bon Jovi Where Were You Last Night live Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 Tarja cover de Nightwish Passion and the opera Remastered 2007 Tarja Medley de Nightwish desde Hellfest 2016 Tarja Undertaker live Milán 2020 Tarja Turunen y Marko Hietala Phantom of the ópera desde Olavinlinna 2023 Tarja Oasis desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 Tarja My Little Phoenix desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 Lost Nothern Star desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 In for a Kill desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 Die Alive desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 Tired of Being Alone desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 Dark Star desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 Falling Awake desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 The Reing desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 Cirian's Well desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 Still of the Night desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 The Crying Moo'n live desde Luna Park Buenos Aires Argentina 2011 Tarja y Diego Valdés Phantom of the ópera desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 Acustic Set desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 Neverlight Rusia 2014 Tarja cover de Nightwish Sleeping Sun con Steven'N' Seagull año 2021 Tarja cover de Nightwish Lippi live 2010 Tarja Poison live 2020 Tarja cover de Nightwish Wishmaster desde Luna Park Buenos Aires Argentina 2016 Tarja cover de Metallica The Unforgiven live Metal Church 2023 Tarja cover de Nightwish Stargenzers Live Buenos Aires Argentina 2011 No Bitter end oficial music video 2016 Love to hate live Metrópolis, London 2018 Tarja cover de Nightwish The Siren desde oficial live 2020 Tarja cover de Nightwish White Night Fantasic Live Ostrava 2010 Deliverance live Bratislava 2014 Little Lies desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 Eagle Eye live Berlín 2016 Crimson Deep desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 500Letters desde woodstock 2016 Desde Paraguay apoyo este canal 🇵🇾🖤🧜🏻‍♀️👑🤘🏻💣💥🔥🔥🔥

  • @annaoophoto5259
    @annaoophoto52592 ай бұрын

    Tarja at that time was asked to sing in a more POP manner, but when shes loud he cant help but to go opera

  • @pabloroldos4242
    @pabloroldos42424 ай бұрын

    Hola! Tarja Turunen the best!! Saludos desde Argentina 🇦🇷

  • @nicod1361
    @nicod13615 ай бұрын

    one would think understandably that reactors especially seasoned ones with a knowledge of NW would know better than to do a "VS" type of comparison

  • @moi-ev3pi
    @moi-ev3pi4 ай бұрын

    FOr me nightwish has always been the best with Tarja

  • @cichlid_official
    @cichlid_official5 ай бұрын

    Opera singers use so-called squillo - a resonant, trumpet-like sound - to cut through an orchestra. Franco Corelli and Mario Lanza were very good at this.

  • @alexmashkin863

    @alexmashkin863

    2 ай бұрын

    Pretty much any pre-microphone (in opera) era singer was good at this, otherwise people wouldn't be able to hear them :-) Now, I understand why you mention Corelli, arguably the best spinto ever, but Lanza sang with microphone, you can't really tell how his voice was shaped, you can clearly hear the ringing in the recordings but how much of it is amplification is hard to tell. I personally love and adore Lanza, that's where my journey into the world of opera has started, but I would probably not mention him and Corelli in one sentence talking about operatic technique, the levels are too far apart :-)

  • @tyrport
    @tyrport4 ай бұрын

    I think you should give Laura Nyro a listen. Try Stoney End. She wrote and sung it when she was just 18.

  • @user-ro9bt2dp8h
    @user-ro9bt2dp8h4 ай бұрын

    I think one think of this. So yuong and beutiful.

  • @The_greatest_of_boxing
    @The_greatest_of_boxing3 күн бұрын

    Tarja number one, only singer of the nightwish

  • @benbermusics
    @benbermusics5 ай бұрын

    There is a thing about this operatic vibrato, the manner Tarja expresses. There are lots of instances where I hear Tarja making an onset that is a quarter or a half note above or below the note required. She corrects this in a quarter of a second. That gives it a searching or hovering aspect, I would call it unstable. The tone quality may be beautiful but I prefer a straight note or a deliberate slide to a note instead of this stepping up or stepping down all the time. Is this Karlsruhe fashion? Because I listen to operasingers using vibrato but not being unstable in note finding...

  • @nicholew350

    @nicholew350

    5 ай бұрын

    That’s how I feel about Floor when she can’t find the note so she suddenly belts it a bit. You can tell she’s struggling and it actually stresses me out so much I can’t listen to it.

  • @FluffyLaDooDoo

    @FluffyLaDooDoo

    4 ай бұрын

    Tarja has been doing this song for so many years and now all of a sudden it bothers you and now that you hear a pop-ish singer do it you like it because you wanna jump on the bandwagon because of the generation we live in

  • @thiagojosefranchini153
    @thiagojosefranchini1535 ай бұрын

    Please react to Rosa de Saron - in concert - A Phoenix ft. Carmen Monarcha. This is a Brazilian rock band "Rosa de Saron", from they "in concert" album, song "A Phoenix". It was recorded few months ago with a philharmonic camera (of Indaiatuba). Carmen Monarcha and the Livre Choir bright this song to make it so gorgeous. For me, it's the best brazilian live song I ever listen. I would love to listen your opinion for those singers and the song itself.

  • @karadenizin-kizi
    @karadenizin-kizi5 ай бұрын

    You can tell Tarja was quite ill and breathy here but I love her voice on this song, especially the older versions when her voice was darker and rounder. Such a beautiful track ❣Thank you for this reaction and analysis! :)

  • @rientsdijkstra4266

    @rientsdijkstra4266

    5 ай бұрын

    I wonder why do people allways have to make this excuse? Opera singer Maggie Renee reacted to a different recording of Sleeping Sun with Tarja and also came to the conclusion that Tarja's technique is not optimal. Also in the comments of that video people started making excuses about Tarja's health... So is Tarja always sick? O might there be another problem?

  • @fredverkerk838

    @fredverkerk838

    5 ай бұрын

    @@rientsdijkstra4266 its a fake opera singer

  • @karadenizin-kizi

    @karadenizin-kizi

    5 ай бұрын

    @@rientsdijkstra4266 20 year old Tarja's classical technique was not perfect after 2 whole of years of studying? That's so shocking.

  • @karadenizin-kizi

    @karadenizin-kizi

    5 ай бұрын

    Also it's not an excuse, it's simply a fact. It's also a fact that she's not a professional opera singer. And Tarja is the first one to say she does not sing perfect and that she makes mistakes when she performs live. But she also says that she sings with her heart and I care more about that than about a perfect technique. If I wanted perfect I'd listen to auto tune.

  • @rientsdijkstra4266

    @rientsdijkstra4266

    5 ай бұрын

    @@karadenizin-kizi Maybe... But it never has been perfect and her current technique is even worse. You don't believe me? Just listen to Tarja trying to sing Nemo live in Serbia in october 2022... It is terrible. And the thing is that all these Tarja-zelots are convinced that Tarja is "on another level" and has "superior technique". Which she doesn't. As a singer Floor has a much better technique and a much better control over her voice than Tarja. Now it can be that you like Tarja's sound better than Floor's sound. If that is so, fine, you are welcome to it! But this shouting about the superiority of Tarja needs to be corrected. Tarja is a special talent with a special voice (which I happen not to like...) but she is far from perfect and actually not a very good singer at all.

  • @petrikuikka
    @petrikuikka5 ай бұрын

    I don't like to compare Tarja, Anette or Floor. All these wonderful women have their own strengths and place in Nightwish history. Some songs suit one person better than another. 😊 Tarja started the charm, Anette broke records and Floor charmed everyone. Greetings from Finland! Kiitos! 😊🤘🏻

  • @stamasd8500
    @stamasd85006 ай бұрын

    I've always liked both versions. They are different (even the arrangement and instrumentation) but each is unique in its own way.

  • @shadowmoon1657

    @shadowmoon1657

    5 ай бұрын

    Disagree. Tarja’s in another mood completely.

  • @Pablo_Maidana
    @Pablo_Maidana3 ай бұрын

    Jeje noté que te gustó mas la versión original. No te culpo, a mi también! ❤❤❤

  • @gokuazul3182
    @gokuazul31823 ай бұрын

    I like the way Tarja sings, her accent, she is better for me, But I love Floor too.

  • @merqury5
    @merqury55 ай бұрын

    First and foremost a beautiful melody. With Floor it gives me happy tummy.

  • @dazjackson1972
    @dazjackson19725 ай бұрын

    We Nightwish fans have been very blessed. I prefer Floor in this instance, but both are lovely performances. I give Floor the nod, simply because this performance has brought me to tears on occasion.🇬🇧👍

  • @markymark-pi5vi
    @markymark-pi5viАй бұрын

    thomas made this song for tarja

  • @k.l.7788
    @k.l.77882 ай бұрын

    Floor ❤

  • @mattihelin5101
    @mattihelin51015 ай бұрын

    Please, check Beauty of the Beast by Nightwish. It's a beautiful, vast, sad and incredible song.

  • @shaneeslick
    @shaneeslick5 ай бұрын

    G'day Beth, Not interested in Tarya vs FLOOR "who's better" I just Love Nightwish & they are Both Awesome Emotive Singers with 🎤👼Beautiful Voices🎤👼🎸🥁🔊🎶🎶🎵🎵🎶🎶🎶🎶🎵🎵

  • @clashagstrom8840
    @clashagstrom88405 ай бұрын

    You should do The Beachland Ballroom, by IDLES! From their From The Basement session!

  • @joachimlarsson9796
    @joachimlarsson97965 ай бұрын

    You need to check out this new song “Last man standing” - Livingstone

  • @OJB42
    @OJB4219 күн бұрын

    Definitely prefer Tarja on this song, and a few others (Phantom of the Opera, Dead Boy's Poem), but Floor is best for others (especially Ghost Love Score). Both great performers for Nightwish.

  • @fmtpulmanns7593
    @fmtpulmanns75935 ай бұрын

    I prefer Tarja for this song. Some others, I prefer Floor. Most, I couldn't pick which is better if my life depended on it. I like my belts, so I prefer Floor on more songs, but that's personal preference, not skill.

  • @Tranenherz
    @Tranenherz4 ай бұрын

    Love Tarja

  • @vorspiel8
    @vorspiel83 ай бұрын

    I love much more Tarja❤ but i loge Floor en After Forever❤

  • @andrenadeau4462
    @andrenadeau44625 ай бұрын

    I know almost nothing about singing but I do know what sound I like. Both Tarja and Floor sound fantastic to me. Having said that, what floor's me about Floor is that you can hardly ever hear us breathing between verses, regrdless of what she is singing. I don't know if it is breathing control or mike control or whatever else but wow!

  • @MrRoziuke

    @MrRoziuke

    5 ай бұрын

    If you don't hear breathing ,especially when somebody sings with the microphone as close as in Floor's case , definitely it's either autotune or other digital correction in post-production. Nobody can sing or speak without breathing. Wise singers who usually sing live ,leave those breathing sounds even on recordings.

  • @larryzigler6812
    @larryzigler68125 ай бұрын

    TARJA'S SONG - FOREVER MORE !!!!!!!! And this is not even her most exquisite performance of it ☮☮💘💘💥💥

  • @tomasbilos
    @tomasbilos5 ай бұрын

    Both are excellent. I personally prefer F because of the goosebumps

  • @brewswillis9783

    @brewswillis9783

    5 ай бұрын

    And non-accent.

  • @brewswillis9783

    @brewswillis9783

    5 ай бұрын

    And non-accent.

  • @De-M-oN

    @De-M-oN

    3 ай бұрын

    Tarja doesnt give you goosebumps or what? 😂

  • @brewswillis9783

    @brewswillis9783

    3 ай бұрын

    @@De-M-oN I’m team Floor but Tarja gives me Targasms on Deep Silent Complete for sure!

  • @annelisunden484
    @annelisunden4844 ай бұрын

    Tarja🌟❤️

  • @talesthesalesman3106
    @talesthesalesman31065 ай бұрын

    Please do a video reaction to Forever by Noro Blue! 💙❤️🙌🔥

  • @foxtanker4055
    @foxtanker40555 ай бұрын

    They are both great but as a native english speaker I have to say that Floor gets the nod in delivery of lyric.

  • @helio.g8384
    @helio.g83844 ай бұрын

    The band Night Wish will never be the same without Tarja, one of the greatest rock sopranos in the world. Eternal gratitude to our beloved Tarja Turunem. As you don't know her, she represents A LOT. 😗😗😗👏👏👏🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹 

  • @jaanahedemaki6993
    @jaanahedemaki69935 ай бұрын

    There is no Tarja vs Floor. There is Tarja AND Floor. Putting singers up against each other is unfortunate thing to do in this toxic fanbase where everything is a competition.Reality tv generation doesn't know any better.The song is a Nightwish song and the band doesn't compete against itself.Watch this comment section fill up with who did it better and with backhanded compliments. Entitled fans make it all about themselves.Whole _____VS._____ is immature and music should never be a competition said Tuomas Holopainen, a man who made this masterpiece. Old band as Nightwish is deseves respect. I don't care who sings what. Every member contributed to a legacy of Nightwish.

  • @Zombertino
    @Zombertino3 ай бұрын

    The fact is Floor can do everything Tarja can and more. This is speaking about technique. Floor's diction of the English language also helped Nightwish reach a much broader audience than with Tarja. Keep in mind I've listened to Nightwish since the beginning, so I was actually biased towards Tarja, but the years have taught me that fair is fair. Floor's versatility, range, stage presence and charisma have made her the best nightwish singer so far. My opinion, of course. Tastes differ.

  • @PK--ITA
    @PK--ITA5 ай бұрын

    Of course, their vocals are different, trained differently, have a different timbre, etc. Both girls are great, wonderful at what they do, which is singing... I'm a loyal fan of Floor, but I appreciate and really like Tarj's earlier and later works. I recommend you listen to her recording of the same song but with Steve'n'Seagulls. I also recommend her performance at the Polan'd'rock Festival (ex-Woodstock Festival), especially "Victims of Ritual", if you appreciate Ravel's "Bolero"...

  • @user-hr9cy7vj6o
    @user-hr9cy7vj6o5 ай бұрын

    I can not stand When so called fans put down Tarja. Nightwish is band from Finland.There is room for all three singers in my world.

  • @ChristianSander1969

    @ChristianSander1969

    5 ай бұрын

    Being a "fan" of Nightwish has nothing to do with Tarja.. She's the reason I was never a fan when they started.. Can't stand her singing, sounds like a cat on a tin roof, ccan't understand half the words she sings and she's off pitch constantly.. Didn't become a fan untill Floor completed Nightwish, Floor is on point every time, powerfull, emotinal, empathic, the full package..

  • @alexandra-md5he

    @alexandra-md5he

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@fredverkerk838we don t put nobody down! I like the Annette songs from her like Medows of heaven and Floor s like Shoumaker.That s all

  • @trekkerj
    @trekkerj5 ай бұрын

    It’s pronounced TAAR-iy-aa

  • @Zuerjelberger

    @Zuerjelberger

    4 ай бұрын

    Yes. The Finnish letter J should be like Y in Yankee and not like J in junkie. But apart from that the pronunciation was quite on point.

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