Tapping In - The Secret Machine Shop Skill!
This episode on Blondihacks, I’m talking about tappy tap tapping! Exclusive videos, drawings, models & plans available on Patreon!
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1/2 an hour on hitting things with a hammer??? Worth every second👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Quinn, you are truly a gifted teacher. I've enjoyed all of your videos over the years, but your "Skills" videos are a particular favorite.
when i was in high school i took a machine shop class, we used hammers that had lead faces on them for tapping in vices and material. Lead is extremely soft and heavy, so a lot of force was not required. the best part is we made a mold so that when they wore out or started to mushroom out, we could unscrew them and the melt the lead down again, pour it in the mold, then drill and tap new threads in it and then reattach it to the hammer. me made most of the faces out of old tire weights.
@oldfarthacks
Жыл бұрын
A very good method.If you want a harder face, you can also drop a blob of a harder metal such as copper or bronze or steel or titanium in the mold.
@jeffarmstrong1308
Жыл бұрын
@@oldmaninthecave What's a "knock off"? I've had a number of British cars (mainly Minis) but have not met this term before or seen anything could be described this way,
@oldog2
Жыл бұрын
Knock off or knockoff nut - a winged nut to hold the wheels on
@jeffarmstrong1308
Жыл бұрын
@@oldmaninthecave Ahh I know them; I've just not heard that term before. My father called them suicide nuts because of how important it was make sure they were used on the correct sides of the vehicle
@firebird8600
Жыл бұрын
@oldmaninthecave I've heard both. First time I heard "suicide nuts" was when I worked at a tire shop where a guy had his knock-off adapters on the wrong side of the car when he brought them in. The shop old guy started yelling at the guy due to the risk of the nuts coming off that way.
Wow!! That was an amazing amount of tapping without making a single threaded hole!!
With proper skill and application even a hammer is a precision instrument
@richtes
Жыл бұрын
There’s a traditionalist somewhere saying “These people have no idea what I can do with the proper size rock”
@Mister_H.
Жыл бұрын
Jeremy Clarkson is nodding his head somewhere 😂
@Dave.Wilson
Жыл бұрын
Even the biggest of hammers on the smallest of parts with the proper skill is a precision instrument/tool.
@timothyball3144
Жыл бұрын
With proper skill and application, even a precision instrument is a hammer.
@oldfarthacks
Жыл бұрын
You know, I can't knock your observation, you hit that one right on the head and drove home your point.
You would be correct, completely underrated the whole tapping process... the why and how eluded me. Thank you for your clear and concise explanation of it.
Having been a machinist for 40-plus years I've been using these techniques for a long time but until now never understood why they work. We just did them. We would just see some older guy doing them and follow their lead not bothering to ask why. Good job with the explanations. Very easy to follow what you were saying.
A light bulb just went on.....Thank you so so so much. I was ready to throw my vice into the pit of never-ending darkness because I was trying to set up my vice and every time, well we will not enter the colorful words that were spoken. You are my "Heroine" ! ! ! Thank you again Quinn for making a novice like me finally understand. Your Queen of the Shop ....
Your videos are very informative and helpful. I am an amateur, just trying to make my parts and tools. You put things in simple terms that everyone can understand. I didn't expect to find this good quality of videos on KZread. Thanks!
Yes! There are so many simple techniques to learn, and, thank you for explaining the principles! -and giving us the vocabulary. Impact force. I had never thought of the concentration of energy through the application of short duration as opposed to a constant effort. It is obvious, after it's explained and demonstrated! I will now have to learn to dial in my vise, as you have shown! Again, as always, thank you for being such a generous Quinn!
I've been wondering about this since your early beginner videos.. thanks for doing a deep dive!
@jeremiahbullfrog9288
Жыл бұрын
The power feed vice tapping method still has me stumped...
You just answered a question I always wanted to ask but was afraid to, snug then tap. Makes so much sense once you explain it this way...
Absolutely fascinating video. I own NONE of the machines that you have, and know abolutely nothing of the stuff that you do- I drive a desk in a bank to earn my crust and pay my mortgage and feed what's left of my family (kids are at Uni, they're fine)- I stumbled upon your channel 2, maybe 3 years ago, love the mechanical stuff (steam engines and such), but this particular video explains so much, even if I will never use the info- Thank you!
Great video! I love how you explain things - you break it down so clearly and simply. Thanks for taking the time and sharing this video with us.
As a novice, I haven't had to think about these items, yet! It's so obvious AFTER you explain it -- but I'm sure I would have overlooked the "offset" pivot technology many-a-time before figuring it out! Thanks! Not as FUN learning it the EASY way -- but definitely will save future frustration!
I always enjoy the basics lessons you show. I always pick up something new. Thanks, and Meow to Sprocket.
The vice alinement was new to me , as you said expertly moving a part in you Hand gives you an idea of the different angles it creates . THANK YOU .
30 mins on how to use a hammer? Worth every second! I saw lots of things I've been doing wrong, and how to rectify/avoid them in future.
After learning how to tap things in on a machining course and being surprised about the precision achieveable with impulse force I've found many other applications. The most notable win is against the temperature control for the shower head - just with a finger, but tappy-tap-tap is the way to get the temperature you desire.
As a vicarious machinist (I currently don't have a shop, maybe I never will... I'm a temporarily or permanently embarrassed machinist), my goodness you are the best at teaching.
Some useful advice here Quinn. Thank you. I use a hammer with a hard rubber face on one side when I tram the vice. I know there's some bounce, but no danger of damage. I see you put a block of wood against your vice. Cheers Nobby
This was so instructive! You are an excellent teacher! Please keep up the good work!
Cool topic, very helpful for visualizing what's happening. This is another one of those things that seems trivial until you actually have to do it yourself; this is a nice reference!
been watching for quite a long time as an old tool and die/mill wright who also taught younger people it's fun watching how much you have learned
I haven't watched your video for a long time, and now I can see a huge leap in quality. I find the sharing of your experiences valuable, with a detailed explanation of the dynamics: causes, effects, precautions, remedies and strategies: All very clear and understandable: it is very useful to me. Thank you.
Great video Quinn. The timing is perfect since my lathe and mill will be arriving in a couple months.
OMG! What an amazing video tutorial! I could have used this two years ago. Thank you Quinn, I am forever grateful!
Great video! These are some of the same skills I’ve used setting elevator main rails in construction and tramming motors in repair.
good teachers are rare to find, good job, well done, thenks
Your skin and hands are quite clean for a machinist ! Teasing aside, your lessons are absolutely deep and complete, leaving no question unanswered.
That explanation of the offset-problem was really helpful, I always fall for that because the damn vise mounts are never in the same plane as the fixed jaw. Somehow, in my head I was always thinking it was pivoting somewhere like 2/3 of the way down the length of the jaw. Thank you.
What a great video on tap, tap, tapping! Thanks!
6 seconds but 30 minutes 43 seconds?? foreshadowing quinn enjoymentage
Well worth watching. I wondered why my parallels would often slip out while milling and my results were never quite as square as they should be.
I think this is the earliest I've ever been to a blondiehacks video less than an hour.
Excellent presentation. Well done!
23:55 "This method only works ahead of time." I wish I had known this 60 years ago on SO MANY topics!
Brilliant - VERY well explained, Thank You
This is awesome. Two things indicated in one week!
Definitely helpful, thanks a lot, Quinn.
Excellent video! Very informative.
Tap, tap. Yes as an old woodbutcher who used to make jigs for overhead router jobbies, little adjustments were always the go. Used to machine components in special wood components to thous ! Had to be special wood and home made jigs ! And production of thousands per hour, manually!
@linmal2242
11 ай бұрын
And shimming and tapping our router bits to get size on the holes that we were boring, fast!
I would love to see Quinn's scrips for these videos. She has such good workflow on those and her editing is just fabulous. I am learning quite a bit from watching her, it's slowly sinking into the videos I make. I also love how she explains things like visualizing the pivot points and how by applying force / acceleration over time during the swing of the mass you can build what amounts to a pool of stored energy in the hammer. As to leaving the indicator engaged with the part, the simple solution is to put in something like a layer or two of paper towel. Then remove for the next measurement.
Great video! Thx for clearing up so many questions in one consice video.
very worthwhile episode. Not just for beginners!
I've had some good teachers over the years. You are with the tops.
You are such a good teacher!
Wow thanks for that tappy tap tap lesson Ms Blondy. I won't be thinking of sheep tonight.😂😂😂 Just kidding. I appreciate the way you explain in such detail everything you do. I also like the fact that you show us when a mistake, an error, a moment of lost concentration is made. For example, were you thinking about that open cupboard, screaming, close me, close me please, I feel exposed when you made that error? 🤭
Fantastic explanation of the tapping in process thank you for the education Cheers.
I am german and a car mechanic. I can indeed confirm that "a Gütentight" is the DIN standard in germany along with "knall fest die scheiße"
@klaernie
Жыл бұрын
I would rather propose "sitzt, passt, wackelt und hat Luft"
@Jehty_
Жыл бұрын
@@TheCarrotOverlord du meinst: Nach fest kommt ganz fest. Und nach ganz fest kommt ab.
@HansWeberHimself
Жыл бұрын
Nach fest kommt kaput. After tight it’s broken.
Been doing this for several years, and stil picked up some pointers! thanks :)
I always learn something new in these videos - I wouldn't have thought to use rapid (or on my little CNC, a slow move) to tap the vise in real time. I usually just jog dial back and fort with the DTI but this might save me some time!
I learned to indicate my vise from Tom Lipton at Ox Tools, you did a very good job explaining what happens when you tap in a vise.
Thanks Quinn
I seem to picked up some of these tricks over the years, but nowhere near your level of skill. And I could never explain it as thoroughly as you can. Thanks & Love your channel!
Setting the vice true ; very impressive indeed. Thanks for a really useful tutorial.
Nicely done
just picked up an old montgomery wards 700a lathe will probably be going through ALL of your lathe tutorials!!! still have a lot of clean up and getting it set where i can use it yet tho.. thanks Quinn
Thank you for the detailed and easy to understand explanation. I've learned so much from your videos.
Nice instruction. Thanks for the video keep on keeping on.
Very informative and well said.
“I now have a square face and square sides…” But do you have square pants? 😂
Thank you, you explained that in way that's easy to understand
Well done a wealth of info presented planely. Thank you.
Gütentight. The first word i learned in my life. Kudos from good old Germany.
Wonderful information. Thank you for sharing. Everyone stay safe, happy and healthy. From Henrico County Virginia
Excellent! Thank you!
This is an excellent tutorial. Thank you.
Some very useful basic info there , good stuff blondi.
Important tips! Thanks for the overview.
Wow, that was a brilliant video! I learned a lot.
Hi Quinn! 😊 I'm looking for other machinist KZread channels run by women, since I only know of you. I thought maybe you would know some? I'm not really trusting the search function and algorithms here on KZread to find exactly what I'm looking for. There are so many talented female makers and woodworkers on here, but so far, I've only found one (yours!) who's main focus is machining. Thank you so much for all the great build series and lessons on technique! Really appreciate it
Great video Quinn
I think what you are saying is that I need to engage impulse power before the warp drive. Got it, Scotty
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! I have a particular application for what you just taught me in this video! I'm in the middle of a vacation trip now, but as soon as I'm back home, I'm going to practice the techniques you've described here, and I will be a better machinist as a result! Video saved!
@tkat6442
Жыл бұрын
Btw, I just tried to do a search to see whether or not there are other videos or articles on line about this topic, and I couldn't find any! Idk if I used the right search words or not, but all I could find was information concerning creating threads in a hole.
Outstanding. Thanks!
Thanks for sharing.
Yay!! It's Blondihacks time!!!
Excellent.
All new information for me, thanks.
I have learned so much from you, but alas I sold my lathe and mill for, reasons. But still love your great ability to teach
Amazing video thankyou
I've had something very similar happen in university systems, not something I wrote , but there uphill battle to get management to engage with the use was a hell of a headache.
Learning a lot from you videos
I have a bunch of different hammers in my tool box several of them I made, from a little one barely 6 oz with steel face and a brass face up to a 2 lb brass hammer made from a piece of 2 inch square bell brass
Amazing Thank you!!
as a suggestion, if you put your finger on the DTI tip, you can dampen the hammer impact on the dti
@bobhudson6659
Жыл бұрын
Try doing that and then take your hand off the tip - without taping or moving anything else and see where the needle rests the 2nd time around. But I also tried your suggested methods years ago - without success. Also need really small fingers/really delicate touch - small fingers I don't have but sometimes OK with the touch. Retired machinist in Land Down Under.
@joergengeerds360
Жыл бұрын
@@bobhudson6659 when I'm in my shop, i can put the finger on the DTI and it will not move, and will stay put at it's current reading (0.01mm and 1/10th DTI). finger on/off doesn't change the reading. hence it it a great way to damped the impulse from the hammer
Got to say that right there was pretty neat
“Impulse Force” 🙏Thanks , just the phrase I needed for a bit I’ve been writing…😁
Thankyou 👍
Wow. Great practical knowledge that saves me time I learn this stuff very slowly without input like this. Thank you!
Well Quinn, I just watched a 30m video for a six second technique. I was wondering how you could fill the other 29 minutes and 54 seconds. As usual, I learned about ten things that I knew but not why, or just completely new concepts. I kept waiting for you to put the small wire against the movable jaw. The hammer material is something I hadn’t considered, but now makes sense. Yesterday, I received a knurling kit and drawings from Hemingway. Should be a fun project to fixture.
Before this video, tapping felt like a ritual. I know it worked, but I didn't fully understand why. Thanks again Quinn!
WOW. Hit the big red button on that method!
I looked for this video when I started machining a year ago or so and couldn’t find one. Thanks!
One comment I want to add for squaring up the mill vise. If you're brand new to it, when you get the vise on and the bolts into the slots, pull or push them tight up to the slots in the mill table. This can limit the error that someone whom is not used to walking a vise in and potentially make it easier to get it dialed in. This was a trick one of my instructors had taught me. Great video though Quinn! Also, why is your lathe trying to be in the blue man group? 😁
Really fine tutorial.
Very interesting!
Thank you.
14:00 on the subject of hammering with the indicator engaged: Couldn't you just slightly move the indicator needle out of the way with your finger? Or is that a big no no for some reason?