"Tankbag Is Coming":

Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары

"We observed the mistakes of the competition and corrected them in the Himalayan 450", says Antoine Borsik, Senior Design Engineer at ‪@royalenfield‬ , who sketched many concept renders of the bike.
In what is probably my favourite interview from this series, Mr Borsik takes us through who this bike is for, what he likes most about it to what Royal Enfield corrected in their bike looking at the competition's mistakes to breaking down the entire bike in concept phase.
Fun fact: Mr Borsik, a few years ago, was also involved in the development of the Yamaha Tenere.
You can check out his concept designs on his Instagram here: antoine_bor...
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction
00:40 - Who is this bike for?
01:32 - Swiss knife
03:15 - The fine details
04:40 - Tenere comparison
06:00 - Fender bender
07:06 - Oversights in design
08:40 - Attention on quality
12:49 - New luggage - tankbag
13:57 - Breaking down design concepts
Let me know in the comments what you think about this video.
Cheers
#royalenfield #himalayan #himalayan450 #himalayan450rally

Пікірлер: 126

  • @ladakhman
    @ladakhman12 күн бұрын

    Finally someone at RE design who could tell background story of design & thought process behind it all.

  • @ashishwadekar6395
    @ashishwadekar639512 күн бұрын

    Thanks @abhinavbhatt for connecting us with behind the scenes at ABR scene! It is always a happy experience to know about thought that was put in by designers & engineers at RE.

  • @abhinavbhatt

    @abhinavbhatt

    12 күн бұрын

    Thank you. The real story is always the people behind the machines.

  • @PatchedBandit
    @PatchedBandit12 күн бұрын

    Excellent to see an interviewer not only throwing softball after softball like many bigger publications. Respect!

  • @Doxam_daily
    @Doxam_daily11 күн бұрын

    Loved the way you kept asking the uncomfortable questions. And yes, he also answered it fairly honestly, mostly about the bike being an affordable one and we cannot expect everything to be perfect. Because, no motorcycle ever will be. But really appreciate your efforts in this interview. Most people would find asking such questions to a guy, in such an event and scenerio, quite socially difficult.

  • @Anuragvisualss
    @Anuragvisualss12 күн бұрын

    The questions you have asked are really great Abhinav 👍

  • @tejasgangarde
    @tejasgangarde12 күн бұрын

    Damn... That sherpa is simply looking like actual sibling of T7 WR

  • @hemangkumawat907
    @hemangkumawat90712 күн бұрын

    Really nice quality content! Surprised it doesn't get more views. So many of people's doubts and understanding of Himalayan would change if they could have this information. Good stuff Abhinav

  • @abhinavbhatt

    @abhinavbhatt

    12 күн бұрын

    Thanks

  • @TheLibr4rian
    @TheLibr4rian12 күн бұрын

    Great video. Very informative! Thanks a lot!

  • @kiranm25x
    @kiranm25x12 күн бұрын

    Good job, they still need to address QC issues with Chassis break and Wiring issues catching fire.

  • @caldaemon
    @caldaemon12 күн бұрын

    Great video! Thank you!

  • @udaynm369
    @udaynm36910 күн бұрын

    Very informative and knowledge gaining video......tanks for sharing your overseas experiences with us.😊

  • @timlubbers2884
    @timlubbers288412 күн бұрын

    Outstanding!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @Viruhemanth
    @Viruhemanth12 күн бұрын

    wonderful machine. Thanks to the Engineers for making this beauty..

  • @force1delta
    @force1delta9 күн бұрын

    What a great company to take such enormous steps in making a world class product in the extremely modest price point… hiring the right guys is the first step and Abhinav’s interview shows how capable they are ..fantastic ..I feel sad that I sold my 411 .. I think soon I will add one of these to my stable if possible..

  • @AbhroneelGhosh
    @AbhroneelGhosh12 күн бұрын

    Quality content!

  • @adi45713
    @adi4571312 күн бұрын

    Bro didn’t hesitate to ask the tough questions - welding, the side stand , & tubeless tyres … 3 kryptonites of Himalayan 450.

  • @Berlin2002-
    @Berlin2002-10 күн бұрын

    Always good content, 👍. Waiting to get my Himalayan hopefully at the end of the month. And yes I will drive it from the Netherlands to India and on 😊

  • @attuneu
    @attuneu7 күн бұрын

    Very interesting and enjoyable. I have the bike and am beginning to really like it.

  • @pitsplaces
    @pitsplaces11 күн бұрын

    Well now that's the true moto journalist review. Amazing video.

  • @timothybrockbank7474
    @timothybrockbank747412 күн бұрын

    Looks an interesting bike will have to get to a dealers and take a look

  • @krishnamahatre8605
    @krishnamahatre860511 күн бұрын

    Another nice one, is the buzz getting lesser or disappearing the next lot of 452s ?

  • @CarlosGeraldi
    @CarlosGeraldi7 күн бұрын

    Great bike! Just one thing was missed, suspensions adjusters! Springs preload and rebound damping at least!

  • @sam1920
    @sam19209 күн бұрын

    any news on when the tubeless spoke rim will be available ??

  • @Vikrum_
    @Vikrum_12 күн бұрын

    The suspension I've ever experienced on two wheels, I hope RE keeps improving it

  • @pietervanderzee9998
    @pietervanderzee99989 күн бұрын

    I have a 450. And 411 bs4. Both fantastic bikes

  • @darkknight3377
    @darkknight337711 күн бұрын

    Abhinav bro, pl find out when tubeless rims will be available for the 450 hm

  • @brookegan2945
    @brookegan294511 күн бұрын

    Any chance you can install rackless saddlebags with out installing pannier racks.

  • @harshaswell
    @harshaswell12 күн бұрын

    Dajyu.. ❤❤

  • @mrtravelbuff
    @mrtravelbuff12 күн бұрын

    Do share the himalayan 450 accessories

  • @critterIMHO
    @critterIMHO10 күн бұрын

    I’m not big on riding off road, but I do like off pavement (dirt and gravel roads), so I’m really looking forward to the Guerrilla.

  • @ogasi1798
    @ogasi179812 күн бұрын

    i always said - old himmy look, new engine and suspension

  • @1234bhattacharjee
    @1234bhattacharjee8 күн бұрын

    @abhinavbhatt there is a continious sound of the fuel pump while riding is that normal in 450

  • @sandeshdharne157
    @sandeshdharne15711 күн бұрын

    its always in the eyes😃

  • @kmram
    @kmram2 күн бұрын

    @abhinav re Himalayan 450- I have a major issue with the front mudguard, in rains the mud splashes all over on the top of the mudguard and also on the fork covers and I can see it sprinkling in the front

  • @abhinavbhatt

    @abhinavbhatt

    2 күн бұрын

    You can extend the front fender. That might help.

  • @interstellargod6959
    @interstellargod695912 күн бұрын

    Western people should watch this before coming negative about the bike

  • @airfoil
    @airfoil12 күн бұрын

    Any word on engine clatter reduction?

  • @rawalsushant
    @rawalsushant10 күн бұрын

    Abhinav any idea when they are planning the tubeless rims. There has been absolute radio silence from RE.

  • @abhinavbhatt

    @abhinavbhatt

    10 күн бұрын

    No timeline yet.

  • @rawalsushant

    @rawalsushant

    10 күн бұрын

    @@abhinavbhatt my apologies i saw the entire video and saw that part. But thanks anyways for the updates.

  • @drpavan262

    @drpavan262

    7 күн бұрын

    I guess it’s a waste of time and emotional drain to expect RE to deliver tubeless spoke wheels😢

  • @irondrifter4702
    @irondrifter470211 күн бұрын

    The side stand is perfect.. Easley stand any mountain area with luggage..

  • @MrVinnyh
    @MrVinnyh6 күн бұрын

    The final question was the answer! Yes with my wife grand that!

  • @frankpinion4937
    @frankpinion49376 күн бұрын

    So you wouldn't need guards to protects forks if it had normal way up forks with gator's on like the Himalayan-this way is a lot more effective. He made the bike too big-it's nearly as big as a Tenere 700, Aprilia tourag 660 which are in the middleweight class but they produce 80 hp where the Himalayan only produces 40 hp. The other thing which was a mistake is that the bike is too heavy. Just lifting it off the side stand is a big effort-you can feel the enormous weight for only a 450 single is ridiculous. The 450 MT from CF Moto with 450 cc twin engine feels a lot lighter than the Himalayan. So it's carried this same problem through to the all new 450 single from the old 411 cc single which weighed 200 kg wet on a weigh bridge with Delkevic muffler on. The air cleaner you have to remove the tank to change air filter which completly ridiculous as it's not only time consuming if doing yourself but very expensive if you get the dealer to do it. 450 MT you can do by lifting the seat, which is how it should be for an off road bike. It uses shims to adjust the valves so is no longer a simple bike to service, or cheap to service as all other Royal Enfield's. Should have had tubeless spoke rims & 18" rear wheel for better rolling ability at the rear to compete with 450 MT. I think for a blank canvas design it has many faults that should have being picked up on. Their seemed to be a lack of communican between the design team & mechanics/users/dealers. I've heard reviewers comment that they think it's around 20 kg too heavy. If you watch the review done by Itchy Boots through India on the pre production model she thought it was too heavy & couldn't understand why Royal Enfield had to make their bikes like tanks. The bar to compete with & improve on was a Suzuki DR650 SE. It's actually a lot heavier than a DR650. The bigger the tank the more fuel & the more weight.I think it looks un balanced with enormous tank & tiny little side covers. The only 1 that disguises the enormity of the tank & that is the black & gold which ifunnily enough is the most popular colour.

  • @krishnadasop8043
    @krishnadasop804312 күн бұрын

    Rally suits well on 452

  • @Amory98
    @Amory9812 күн бұрын

    Would be get the RE Arrow exhaust in india for this?

  • @abhinavbhatt

    @abhinavbhatt

    12 күн бұрын

    Unlikely. It won't make sense anyway. Would cost at least 40-50k. Would you buy a slip on that's heavier than stock and not make that much more power for that money?

  • @da_Silentman
    @da_Silentman11 күн бұрын

    We may expect that tubeless rim next year😂😂😂.

  • @austin1489
    @austin148911 күн бұрын

    Is Himalayan 650 in the pipeline of RE ??

  • @alvishhussain8383
    @alvishhussain838312 күн бұрын

    What about the chasis break?

  • @flyingkiwi215

    @flyingkiwi215

    11 күн бұрын

    Aftermarket, incorrectly fitted engine guards causing it.

  • @ADHI222
    @ADHI22211 күн бұрын

    The tail section that we saw on the bike is it an accessories?

  • @abhinavbhatt

    @abhinavbhatt

    11 күн бұрын

    Yes. Yet to be launched.

  • @ADHI222

    @ADHI222

    11 күн бұрын

    @@abhinavbhatt oh nice that's wonderful

  • @jimmydickson8854
    @jimmydickson88548 күн бұрын

    I like the bike it reliable good value and mullty purpose and it’s not covered in crap plastic which I hate and it’s not complicated a good rack to carry gear ,it suites me fine ,these sports bikes scare the shite out of me ,I haven’t got the talent for these that’s why I like the R / E 450 that’s all the talent iv got for bikes I’m an older rider not in a hurry these days ,that’s my honest opinion on the bike jimmy Australia

  • @winduncan9818
    @winduncan98183 күн бұрын

    For me it's tubeless tires or a hard pass. I love my VStrom 650 with it's tubeless tires for USA touring, I'm selling my CRF Rally in Thailand with it's tubed tires and thinking of replacing it with one of these.

  • @slimturnpike
    @slimturnpike8 күн бұрын

    weight?

  • @thefastelephant94
    @thefastelephant9412 күн бұрын

    When does the Rally Exhaust come out?

  • @abhinavbhatt

    @abhinavbhatt

    12 күн бұрын

    Arrow should start producing it soon but unlikely to make it to India. Wouldn't be under 50k.

  • @sounakroy9616
    @sounakroy96168 күн бұрын

    As an old school rider, it always bothers me when I see one without kick starts. Maybe its my fault!..

  • @alidohorizonte
    @alidohorizonte11 күн бұрын

    I just wanted one so bad but they're not being sold yet in my country. So I bought a 400x.

  • @harshitprasadbulletwa
    @harshitprasadbulletwa12 күн бұрын

    The angle of the headlights in this bike seems to be more aligned with the suspension, my himalayan does not look like that. It that a mod or just difference between the models?

  • @abhinavbhatt

    @abhinavbhatt

    12 күн бұрын

    This headlight sits lower due to no number plate at the front. Even my bike in India is like this.

  • @harshitprasadbulletwa

    @harshitprasadbulletwa

    12 күн бұрын

    @@abhinavbhatt omg looks so much cooler this way, how do you dodge the legal requirements to do this in india?

  • @abhinavbhatt

    @abhinavbhatt

    12 күн бұрын

    @@harshitprasadbulletwa ride this way and pray for the best 🤣

  • @harshitprasadbulletwa

    @harshitprasadbulletwa

    12 күн бұрын

    @@abhinavbhatt Haha 😂 will try doing this someday. Lets hope Gurgaon police is willing to let this slide

  • @zakengalsulkar5778
    @zakengalsulkar577812 күн бұрын

    Question them why not give traction control, cruise control, adjustable levers, quickshifter as another variant for bit more money. People would happily pay little more for these features

  • @abhinavbhatt

    @abhinavbhatt

    12 күн бұрын

    Wait for other interviews. And I will never ask them why not give traction control. I will always commend them for not giving TC on a 40 bhp bike.

  • @SAMUELBENZ1357PETRAZONE
    @SAMUELBENZ1357PETRAZONE12 күн бұрын

    I can see the grenadiers in the background 😂😂😂

  • @abhinavbhatt

    @abhinavbhatt

    12 күн бұрын

    We were eyeing them for 4 days straight.

  • @robedmunds7163
    @robedmunds716312 күн бұрын

    What a cool guy, nice that they consider people are spending all their savings on a bike and not everyone has unlimited cash.

  • @abhinavbhatt

    @abhinavbhatt

    12 күн бұрын

    I thought that was the quote of the interview. Very touching.

  • @arohiaziz3097
    @arohiaziz309712 күн бұрын

    Sir, question him when will bigger Himalayan arrive?🙂

  • @abhinavbhatt

    @abhinavbhatt

    12 күн бұрын

    There's absolutely no point asking these questions. You just won't get an answer you'll like.

  • @AJ_NtTWrstl
    @AJ_NtTWrstl12 күн бұрын

    when are the cross spoke wheels are coming?? did you had the chance to aks them and get an answer?? This is the only thing which is making me wait to buy this bike and no I don't want to go for jugaad "Tubeless conversion". and pushing 200kg motorcycle everytime you get puncture is out of the question as well.

  • @flyingkiwi215

    @flyingkiwi215

    11 күн бұрын

    Why would you push it? Just fix the puncture as it’s got a centre stand already fitted.

  • @AJ_NtTWrstl

    @AJ_NtTWrstl

    11 күн бұрын

    @@flyingkiwi215 fix the tube puncture by myself? you are out of your mind.

  • @augm3nt384
    @augm3nt38412 күн бұрын

    It's been almost a year since the the Himalayan 450's launch, but nothing from RE about the tubeless rims, rally accessories and the seats. A seriously BIG blunder. Edit. It also looks like the rally exhaust won't be launched in India !

  • @zakengalsulkar5778
    @zakengalsulkar577812 күн бұрын

    Want to see foglights throw in dark

  • @aaronvarghese6955
    @aaronvarghese695510 күн бұрын

    This or triumph scrambler 400x

  • @pcmishrikoti
    @pcmishrikoti9 күн бұрын

    Why the chessis break hard question to be answered...

  • @manueldiaspereira8347
    @manueldiaspereira83474 күн бұрын

    This bike is a stock one, apart from the seat?

  • @abhinavbhatt

    @abhinavbhatt

    4 күн бұрын

    It has the rally style accessories on. The rally mudguard, handguards etc.

  • @manuelpereira1384

    @manuelpereira1384

    12 сағат бұрын

    @@abhinavbhatt First of all Thanks for your reply!😃 The back is diferent too, right? In your opinion, for some one that not ride for more than 20 years wich bike I should choose: A Royal Enfield Classic Reborn 350 a Himalayan 450 or a Guerrilla 450? A Scram 440 or 450 air cooled was what I wanted...😔

  • @abhinavbhatt

    @abhinavbhatt

    11 сағат бұрын

    @@manuelpereira1384 if you wait for some time, a Scram 440 will eventually come.

  • @manuelpereira1384

    @manuelpereira1384

    10 сағат бұрын

    @@abhinavbhatt Do you think so, in the very near future, like by the end of the year? With an air and oil cooled engine (440 or 450), like the old Scram?

  • @abhinavbhatt

    @abhinavbhatt

    10 сағат бұрын

    @@manuelpereira1384 don't know when exactly, but a 440 cc bored out 411 Scram will definitely come.

  • @ankn01
    @ankn0112 күн бұрын

    Guys at this time moto cf 450 is winning and Himalayan is loosing. But it's a battle not a war.

  • @delchanman

    @delchanman

    12 күн бұрын

    bro is onto nothing 🗣

  • @ankn01

    @ankn01

    12 күн бұрын

    @@delchanman i am

  • @marcotrujillo9574

    @marcotrujillo9574

    11 күн бұрын

    Two different markets. You want reliability buy RE. You want to travel long distances with any issues at all? Buy RE. You want a chinese Teneré looking bike, with a bunch of chinese electronics to go 100km trips and then go home? Buy CF 450mt.

  • @ivoaferreira

    @ivoaferreira

    10 күн бұрын

    @@marcotrujillo9574 RE is not exactly known for reliability, on both only time will tell...I bought the himi but the CF is a better bike, better acessories (mirrors, windshield, handguards), no vibration, more horsepower, the himi is better looking but thats a question of taste

  • @bikes.and.knives
    @bikes.and.knives12 күн бұрын

    No clear answer about tubeless spokes again, no time frame. Disappointing.

  • @Fractal379

    @Fractal379

    12 күн бұрын

    In fairness, that's not within his job remit.

  • @bikes.and.knives

    @bikes.and.knives

    12 күн бұрын

    @@Fractal379 that's corporate lingo. You're trying to build a motorcycle community, trying to engage with the riders, asking for feedback. This is not the way to go.

  • @Fractal379

    @Fractal379

    12 күн бұрын

    @@bikes.and.knives I don't think someone in his role has all the answers, nor would I expect them to.

  • @bikes.and.knives

    @bikes.and.knives

    12 күн бұрын

    @@Fractal379 He should have said so then, that he can't answer that question instead of getting political. A whole lot of us only bought the Himalayan because we were told that the tubeless spokes were getting launched as early as in 3 months, and that was November 2023. After that, there has been a collective silence from the brand, collective amnesia. Nobody dares talks about it. They don't even reply to the queries on their Instagram page. I have asked numerous journalists about it, no answer yet. So, if RE, as a brand, doesn't even have a time frame for something that they promised us last year, they're doing a shit job, and not talking about it, or giving vague answers like in this video isn't helping their cause either. They'll launch more bikes, and the customer will remember this behaviour. Next time we'll take all their announcements with a fistful of salt.

  • @delchanman

    @delchanman

    12 күн бұрын

    ​@@bikes.and.knivesdoesn't the top spec have the tubeless spokes right now? Some sources say they do i have no idea.

  • @steamerSama
    @steamerSama8 күн бұрын

    Desi reviewer and videsi Royal enfield designer. Who would have thought India needs to import engineers 🙄

  • @Oldman.Roaming
    @Oldman.Roaming11 күн бұрын

    Is it me or did this guy have trouble answering questions?

  • @flyingkiwi215

    @flyingkiwi215

    11 күн бұрын

    He’s only one person of the team. He’s not specialist on every part of the

  • @Oldman.Roaming

    @Oldman.Roaming

    10 күн бұрын

    @@flyingkiwi215 gotcha

  • @mercuryquiksilver2561
    @mercuryquiksilver256112 күн бұрын

    That accent sounds french imo .

  • @abhinavbhatt

    @abhinavbhatt

    12 күн бұрын

    He is French.

  • @marcotrujillo9574

    @marcotrujillo9574

    11 күн бұрын

    Yeah no sht, he's name is Antoine, champ. It's pretty clear.

  • @akhil2040
    @akhil204012 күн бұрын

    So now I'm waiting for fog lights AND top bag.

  • @akshanshkumar
    @akshanshkumar12 күн бұрын

    No matter how good one can call RE Himalayan, it will remain unreliable and shit product. There's an issue on my 450 which RE cannot fix and its been 3 months.

  • @d3lchan

    @d3lchan

    12 күн бұрын

    you have a 411 right?

  • @adityan3208

    @adityan3208

    12 күн бұрын

    What's the issue?

  • @fueledbypassion5558

    @fueledbypassion5558

    11 күн бұрын

    The owners are actually enjoying the motorcycle and I am one of them 😉

  • @d3lchan

    @d3lchan

    11 күн бұрын

    @@fueledbypassion5558 nah nah don't worry, he has a 411 and is putting down others to feel better about his situation lmao

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