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Arabs and Tamil Muslims
Islam came to Tamil Nadu in its earliest days, when the Arabs became Muslims. The early Arab Muslims settled in the coastal towns of Tamil Nadu and functioned as a guild for themselves. They were called Anjuvannam, meaning assembly or congregation. The name Anjuvannam is found in some copper plates and inscriptions from the 12th and 13th centuries and is considered to be the merchant guild of the Muslims. An old mosque in Thenkasi, Thirunelveli District, called ‘Anjuvannam Pallivasal’ that exists even today, testifies that the name Anjuvannam is attributed to the Muslims.
Arwi - Arabu tamil language
Arwi flourished in the 11th century in coastal Tamil Nadu and south-west Sri Lanka as a result of Arab traders visiting in search of exotic spices. Trading over several years, the two ancient civilizations not only engaged in commercial activities but possibly formed personal relationships and exchanged cultural ideas, language, and religion.
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It was in Tamil, poet Omar sang the life of Prophet. It was a monumental work and he named the book as "Seera Puranam". The book is a literary classic in Tamil but went unrecognized.
@slilyjoshuva2491
27 күн бұрын
We learn it in school as memory poem.
@lingeshanr
25 күн бұрын
What?! Unrecognized?! Sir... It is a compulsory chapter in Tamil poetry in spiritual section! We studied in schools.
@commodusmeridius4718
23 күн бұрын
How invaders destroyed Tamil mind Modi ji App kuch maat karo Sirf dosto ki pocket varo
@slilyjoshuva2491
23 күн бұрын
@@commodusmeridius4718 cant understand ur lang. Bro.
@GoldenSword001
21 күн бұрын
Umaru pulavar is Rowther tamil muslim
Though i studied in south Indian school in Mumbai, Tamil was introduced in the seventh class and from there the love for Tamil started. Thirukkural was my best book bcause my bhavani teacher was the best in explaining it word by word. Tamizh❤
@IrfanAli-so5hh
10 күн бұрын
A Muslims best book not be anything other than The Qur'an. We need to be careful when using those type of words
one of the earliest Muslims in Indian sub continent is cheraman perumal who was a TAMIL CHERA KING and met prophet Muhammad, cheraman perumal built a mosque which is india's first , it's still there in Kerala
@nurulhudavijapurwala4936
22 күн бұрын
First mosque of India is in gujrat , bhavnagar. That built before Kaaba declared as a qibla because the qibla of mosque of bhavnagar in the direction of Jerusalem ( dome of rock) instead of kaabs
@muhammadhabubacker8890
20 күн бұрын
Please provide more details about the Masjid in Gujarat@@nurulhudavijapurwala4936
@Dawah_Help
19 күн бұрын
@@nurulhudavijapurwala4936 Ma sha Allah. As new discoveries arise, things might change, so let us welcome & embrace all our far-flung communities in sha Allah.
@sunwukong2959
18 күн бұрын
that is a cooked up story no academical evidence similar to st.thomas
@incredibler11
18 күн бұрын
@@sunwukong2959 that's not cooked up, cheraman perumal's grave is still in Oman go and check
Sometimes a urdu Muslim thought they are superior than tamil muslim in Tamilnadu but they can't tell the 4th generation Muslim forefather name I'm a tamil Muslim from melapalayam a early settlement of Muslims. I could show my forefathers grave both sufi and arabs. Proud to be a tamil Muslim.
@Dawah_Help
19 күн бұрын
There are a lot of assumptions & presumptions here. When genetic studies are done, it can be found among various coastal Muslim communities e.g. Urdu-speaking Muslims of Gujarat, that they have very diverse ancestry, including South Indian & South East Asian, as well as native & from Muslim majority lands. Yes the Sufi & Arabian connections are there among many people, & they too can trace their forefathers' graves back. Modern current geographical limitations do not reflect the vast distances & inter-connections between the peoples of maritime trading entrepots. Languages were adopted, dropped & fused depending upon circumstances. Please do not create unnecessary artificial & ahistorical divisions.
@niyasahamed1928
11 күн бұрын
I am tamil Muslim and I know the seven generation of my ancestors including graves
@mukilanru
9 күн бұрын
Melapalayam Sharja adipoli
Love to Tamil Muslims from Bangladesh
wonderful .malabar was once tamil peoples land,sanskrit killed tamil there.
@homelander8175
27 күн бұрын
Islam killed whole india
@maangajuicemusician2516
27 күн бұрын
Sanskrit was not the problem, it was the Screwed up sanskrit that was in use during Brahminical Shunga Regime. Sanskrit was a refined brahmi language by Sakiya Buddhists of Buddha Era becuase of interference of many outside languages in the northern region of India as Prakrit (Paa kadhai/ Petchu Kadhaigal: Delivered through speaking), and then these sakiya buddhist/Saints refined as Sengathai / Semmaiyaakapatha Kadhai so that, there won't be any dizziness with the meaning of words used by people. During Maurya empire, it was forcefully exploited and spreded across India, especially during Ashoka (Cross Gupta King - Poor Brahmin mistress's son) and During Shunga empire, so many aseevaga Samanars/Shramanas were fled away from there to south, and settled as ShravanaBelagola. Some Shramanas able to connect with Aseevagam practices in South that were not much distorted by outsiders like Mauriyans.
@oursurroundings964
22 күн бұрын
Malabar was tamil state include south Karnataka coastal region..
@maangajuicemusician2516
22 күн бұрын
@oursurroundings964 you are right. I would say Kerala was Tamil until the Nairs and Namboothris forced the manipravalan style language into Mideveal Tamil. Luckily Malayalam didn't influence Tamil much and that's why Tamils are still able to understand that language compared to Kannada and Telegu (say thanks to Mauriyans for influencing their Sanskrit into Kannada and Andhra region back then and distorting it). P.S.> I can't be responsible if anyone gets offended for using certain community names. Truth is the truth. Let's not pretend to be helpless victims when real victims remain silent without knowing the real possibility of the past.
I am Sri Lankan Moor from Colombo 👈☝
At least, I'm happy that someone from north spoke about this. Glad people in North would know about this better as much as in South.
Chera king also plays a major role.
I want Tamizh muslim enithic groups and history documentation
@Dawah_Help
19 күн бұрын
Ditto in sha Allah.
Looks like the Cholo, Pandian and Pallava kingdoms gained a lot from the Arab World
@Dawah_Help
19 күн бұрын
Traders have a cosmopolitan mindset of mutual benefit.
சிறப்பு...!
Tamil Muslims still uses the original Tamil words such as Soru - rice food , Annam - for gravy , palli for masque or worship place.
There were Judeo - malayalam in present day kerala with beautiful songs and prayers. The language is not practiced since most of the Jewish people migrated to Israel.
In early ages writings in stones was a practice. Now nobody can understand the script written on stones. This will give a better idea. Now people are becoming more fanatics rather than to have mutual frienddhip.
Tamil Muslim Keelakarai mosque 625 history world video
Tamil Muslims
It was only after the colonialisation by Europeans, that many countries picked up Latin words in their scripts.
Thanks bro
Thank you for this video
Rowthers 💪
@syedibrahim3988
18 күн бұрын
💪💪💪💪💪👌👌👌
@days909
16 күн бұрын
Iam proud of Muslim 💪💪
@IrfanAli-so5hh
10 күн бұрын
There is no place for casteism in Islam
Thank you for this video i just resently knew about arwi
In every part of the world where Islam spread, for the better familiarisation of Arabic, the Muslim scholars introduced native language in Arabic script. In Kerala I have learnt religious texts in script which is in Arabic but the content is in Malayalam. Same is the case with Arivu mentioned in this video. Same were the case with Malaysian Muslims, they wrote in Arabic their native tongue. Same was the case with Turkish it was written in Arabic but the content was Turkish. So all over the world it was the practice
@eleyloo
24 күн бұрын
We appreciate the information 🤝
@faisalrehman8298
24 күн бұрын
Urdu Sindhi Pushto Baluchi Farsi Punjabi(in Pakistan) are written in Arabic script.
@Dawah_Help
19 күн бұрын
Swahili is another, as is Jawi.
I like your information, I had some information about India and connection of Arabic stories and Quran.
First
Hanafi Tamil muslims are one of the oldest tamil muslims they accepted islam from persian/arabic/turkish horse traders in before 10th century they call their father as "Atthaa" in olden tamil/turkish language wird and also early tamil literature mention about only hanafi muslims like Rowthers and thurukkar muslims. Manikavasagar and arunagitinathar and other tamil saivaites poets mentioned about Rowthers cavalry in literature. Laterly Muslims like Shafi tamil muslims who converted into islam from sea side tamil community in last 600 years under some malayali sufis, that why they follows Shafi madhab and they call their father as "vappa" they are living in some coastal towns and villages. They first mentioned on literature in thondaiman history 17th century and seethakathi history 17th century
@aya-rn6me
21 күн бұрын
Thanks for the info...salam from Malaysia taml Muslim, i call my late father Attha..and my grand grandfather is Rowther..🤝🤝
@GoldenSword001
21 күн бұрын
@@aya-rn6me Nice to know you Malaysian Rowther happy for your reply, do you know which is your ancestral place in Tamilnadu?
@Hihii-ce4su
21 күн бұрын
@@GoldenSword001what is the difference in rawther and thulukkar, i thought both are same. Iam from kerala In here common name for muslim men is" kaakkan" Like wise i thought common name for muslim men in tamilnadu is thulukkan. I believed that common name for every Muslim community in Tamilnadu is thulukkar.
@GoldenSword001
20 күн бұрын
@@Hihii-ce4su early tamil literatures mentioned only two clan of muslims did horse trade in tamilakam one is Rowthers another one is turukkar also known as thulukkar. But both clans are same with qualities of equestrians, cavalry, trade so mingled after 12th century they all are commonly known as 'Rowthers' (Hanafi followers) and use various titles like Pillai, Shah, Sahibu, Nainar, Ambalam etc. In tamilnadu most of the muslims are Hanafi Rowthers mainly in South and delta districts most of them good landowners and bussiness people. I think Central & Southern Kerala almost most of muslims are Rowthers but many of them changed their faith Hanafi into Shafi. that why they confuse within it,
@syedibrahim3988
18 күн бұрын
@@GoldenSword001அத்தா 👌👌👌அருமையான விளக்கம்த்தா.... அரிய தகவல்கள் பதிவிட்டுள்ளீர்கள்...
0:34 any source to read about such colonies??
Contact of people trading was preferable throughout southern coastal areas even before islam . Kayalpatnam is nearby korkai port of ancient panda kings
@ahairshi
24 күн бұрын
Exactly. We still have a road called "customs road""
@MuhammadJasoor
22 күн бұрын
I have a friend from Kayalpatnam :)
@ahairshi
22 күн бұрын
@@MuhammadJasoor I am from Kayalpatnam
Majority Tamil muslims are known as Rowthers who mentioned on early literature in tamil language they're also known as horse traders and cavalry force in history
First time I heard about arawi language
@vijayasreechaliki422
Күн бұрын
Many know it as aravam in andhra & Orissa
Probably the birth of Kannada and Telugu from Arwi
Pathi what?? It’s called patthirpaatu or pathu paatu meaning ten songs
He forgot to tell chera kingdom to converted to Islam along with their followers
Even now Tamil people referred to as "Arawai" or "Arawu" by Telugu people from Andhra Pradesh and Telengana.
NTK ❤💪🙏
There is Seperate muslim subsect Workship peacock lord malik taus=murugan.malik in muslim indicates lord muruga.bcoz he born in all RACES of world.
@mohamedbukharyibnmohamedri8769
27 күн бұрын
Yazidis are not Muslims. Do your research properly.
@maangajuicemusician2516
27 күн бұрын
Yazidis were early Kaumara Settlers from Indus to Iranian region for trade purpose around 8000 - 4000 yeras ago (I'm not sure about the period of time). These people must have no idea about Ravana, Indira but they were aware about Siva and Muruga Pandiyan of Naga clan. Ya means South, Zidi is a deformed middle eastern sound of Siddhi Means siddhars It means Siddhars from the South most part of the world. I believe they must have no connection with Noah the jew.
@trendsetters89
25 күн бұрын
They are the Bahai.. They're not Muslims and don't consider themselves Muslims either
@mtcemngr5292
24 күн бұрын
@@maangajuicemusician2516 Shut up. Zaidis are a caste similar to Druz & a cult which later changed to Bahais. Hindu fantastic call Yezidis as Tamil bcs of Peacock God & nothing else.
@Dawah_Help
19 күн бұрын
@@maangajuicemusician2516 No science is the answer, not speculative nonsense, they are genetic & linguistic "Aryans" e.g. related to Iraqi Kurds & Iranians.
Thats how cultures interact and the extremists wont understand
Tamil Nadu
Pandian Tamil kings .
Jews enter into thamilnadu 2000 years ago. Also Jesus decibel St.thomos came to thamilnadu
One can identify as a tamil muslim if their communities are rawthers(இராவுத்தர்) Marakayers(மரைக்காயர்), leppai(லெப்பை).
I didnt know tamil also have muslims , all tamils I met were hindu
@Creditnotmine
22 күн бұрын
Yeah few 1000s People have in the River areas or Sea areas of Tamil nadu , May be total few lacs, ( they converted before 1000 to 1200 years by persians and Arabs and not by turks ) what you believed is Correct , before iam travelling to Chennai I believed urdu Muslims lives Only in Pakistan and after Coming chennai( including chennai ) only I know , rest of Tamil Nadu and kerala , whole India Urdu Muslims is there...
@incredibler11
20 күн бұрын
Haven't you heard about Abdul kalam A.R. Rahman aren't they tamil Muslims??
@Dawah_Help
19 күн бұрын
@@Creditnotmine Urdu-speaking Muslims are spread across the length & breadth of the South Asian sub-continent & their diasporas.
@user-hh5xt7qx6i
16 күн бұрын
@@incredibler11exactly, in Tamil nadu, tamil Muslims are majority when compared to Urdu Muslims. Tamil Muslims are once in a different religion and later they accepted islam as their religion. For many generations Tamil Muslims are following Islam.. If you see.. In marriage function, Tamil Muslim also wear silk Saree, they serve briyani in banana leaf at marriage, also do valaikappu, etc..
Arab? Wait what? Tamils have connections with turks not Arabs
@ahairshi
24 күн бұрын
We have connection with Egypt. Not Turkey. One of the reasons why Tamil muslims follow shafi school of thoughts.
@sujathavijayan5921
23 күн бұрын
@@ahairshi who are you?
@ahairshi
23 күн бұрын
Oh ippothan Nee ethuku turkey sonna nu puriyuthu. Racist.
@Creditnotmine
22 күн бұрын
@sujathavijayan5921 What you are Says is Correct madam , That is in North India, From Turkey Origin , King's along with their people Come to India and Via Afghan , pak to India and Ruled Here..By that North Indian Muslims Became..First Ibrahim Lodi in early 900 Came to the So Called Aghanda Bharatham...But South India is Different, Here are Tamil people where Arab and Persian people Came for Business after 600 Ad to Kerala and travelled along with Coastal Areas for Business in the early 800 to 1200 , by that time they accepted and included all the people and treat them Same with love and Care...So that many Tamils living Side of River and Seas Converted to Islam between 1000 to 1200 years ago...and Some Tamils Converted in the period of mughal era...So you Can understand that...
@Dawah_Help
19 күн бұрын
@@Creditnotmine That is a case of reduction to absurdity. The reality is far more subtle & nuanced, as are the myriad histories of a hyper-diverse juggernaut of a "sub-continental" region. 🔬
Muslim AL-khadir and tamil kadavul khadir-vel murugan are same.both are green gods,both are agriculture based.
@knightdave1986
27 күн бұрын
May be both are same.. But Al-Khidr is not a god.. He is a learned man blessed by god..
@maangajuicemusician2516
27 күн бұрын
@@knightdave1986 Well, Both are same. god is a universal force. God-state people are godly people or prophet or whatever people want to refer to as per their convenience. Khadir by itself refers to Saint Muruga Pandian from Naga clan (I won't say God murugar because he was an old prophet for most of the people in this world)
@onepunchman3413
26 күн бұрын
@@maangajuicemusician2516 pandian,naga?source?
@knightdave1986
26 күн бұрын
@@onepunchman3413 they don't have any references or proofs.. Just everyone has their own assumptions...
@maangajuicemusician2516
26 күн бұрын
@onepunchman3413 TCP Pandian, Kayakalpa.Kudil YT channel, read articles, connect dots to feel the truth. Facts can't be truth. But truth will bloom as an evergreen fact. That's why truth is truth. Nothing in this world happened magically, it's just the lost connections of people and cultural resets that happened in various parts of the world due to invasions. Secondly, Nagas share Ancient Tamil words (pronunciation) and it's natural for deviation and distortion of words due to environmental evolution. And I told you, Kadhir, Kandha, all these words related to Saint Pandiya Murugar of the Naga clan and of the Aiyer professional community which is in extinction. How it's derived? These experts used decoding encoding techniques and self-research to bring things. It's in the hands of people to feel the truth. If still people only believe in Paper proofs, then I don't know what to say. How am I saying this? Because I know Tamizhl and I'm an ethnic majority from one of the Tamizhl communities from its Ethnic region. Fourth, if someone says Tamil. is the oldest, kindly remember Brahmi/Tamili scripts and beyond. Present tamizhl as written and spoken escaped from a lot of distortion of Deviated Sanskrit mix (not the Sanskrit that Sakya Monks refined from Prakriti/paa kadhai a.k.a spoken language to Samaskriti/sen kathai a.k.a refined language. It's funny when they try their best to roast Tamizhl language, in fact funny. We all see all the people from the world as Tamizhls ONLY; the ethnics that scattered to different parts after the Kumari continent deluge (including Noah himself) and the trade happened between migrated Tamizhls to Indus region to establish Aarappan civilization (Aa sound distorted to Ha sound as Harappa). Boats were in use before the deluge. So let's not say boats came late. If that's the then why there are old pyramids in Indonesia? Mountaineer nagas of that time who settled in ner Indonesia region before the deluge built those pyramids for elevation purposes (possibility is high) for astrology. Or it's a place of a saint who mastered many siddhis and took charge as a tribal leader for the people. Fifth, if you ask a source just to cool your ego or to brush it off, then I don't know what to say. Maybe I'll laugh and leave. Sixth, if I say Tamil is very very old, it's not the language you read or speak, it means the frequency of the words "oli". Basic 101 for you, back then during the time.of saint Siva (he was the source for Jews too a.k.a Elohim). Many teachings were minimally documented using pictorial fonts and more by conveying with words. And it's still believed by all the people that he was the first one who activated Kundalini and accessed cosmos powers. So whatever the Vedas people say, it's again encoded utter nonsense during the Gupta and Shunga regimes by Pancha garuda Brahmins (no hate for Brahmins who use this name as their race name although its real meaning is pair (big) amanar(sage). Amanar later changed to seminar and Shramana in the north for Aseevagam saints. It was called Ajvika. Buddha was a big reformalist of Indira's Sakya teaching and that's why Buddha is called as SakiyaMuni. I could put many things on the stack that you can't process and eventually pull a lame card to gaslight me (although it won't work). Truth is truth. Truth can be felt. Oh! BTW, the Pali language looks like a Naga language and the Naga people who didn't go through many cultural changes moved to the North West region and settled in the Tibetan region and later mainland Chinese from Tamil settled in China. Proof? The housing architecture from Nepal to Japan. Back then, during the Raja Raja Chozha era, houses were built in Tamil Nadu just like the same as why it was built in China as you see (tripe-storey traditional Chinese and Japanese ancient homes that you saw in movies). The painting is there in the first floor of Thanjavur temple built by Raja Raja Chozha under the guidance of Saint Karuvurar (one of the 18 biggest siddhars). So, it's not a magic. It's all lost connections 10000 years ago. Clan names have a history. One who doesn't know his clan history is already dead. In Tamil, some people who knows that Shiva was nagar refer him as aadhi naagar, Naga muneesvarar.
Muslim are created in india 5000years
@nkpatil1087
12 күн бұрын
Islam is Just 1400 year old
Any tamil people?
@adghat7819
18 күн бұрын
I am but not a Muslim.
@AhmedAhmed-1427-
18 күн бұрын
@@adghat7819 bro naa tamil people irrugala dhan katen neega muslima? Hinduva? Kakela bro
@Asw2811d
17 күн бұрын
Tamil broo ❤
@AhmedAhmed-1427-
17 күн бұрын
@@Asw2811d♥️
@adghat7819
16 күн бұрын
@@AhmedAhmed-1427- Tamil tha bro. sorry bro i just said.
Prophet ADAM arrived in srilanka
It also known prophet Adam's language was aravi,the first language of the world tamil which resembles in those days.
@QamruddinKhan-hf4dn
22 күн бұрын
Who told you that??
@GoldenSword001
21 күн бұрын
😂😂
Thamils business with king Solomon 3000 years ago
Arabu Tamil ✅
@days909
20 күн бұрын
Puriyala avara english la. Sonnathu tamila explain pandrihala
@user-hh5xt7qx6i
16 күн бұрын
@@days909we shouldn't call Tamil Muslim as Arab.. Because their mother tongue is Tamil only. They even don't know Urdu or Arab language. They're Tamil people once and accepted Islam as their faith. Thats it.
@days909
16 күн бұрын
@@user-hh5xt7qx6i ok ok done iam asked to him why are you said arab tamil any explanation about this?
@GoldenSword001
16 күн бұрын
Not arabs we are tamilians Rowthers only
@days909
16 күн бұрын
@@GoldenSword001 bruh all tamil Muslims are not rowthers ..
Islam began in sri lanka , Adam's land
@yrysf1876
23 күн бұрын
there is no proof Adam landed in the land of srilanka , its a claim with no basis . In fact modern science goes against it because srilanka was not an island before (Tectonic plates issue) , it was continuous land with india . Hence , The island in the east where Adam landed mentioned in Islam cannot be srilanka
Great Tamil King CHERAR had extensive relationship eith Arbic traders and thats why the Islam came to Cherar Tamil Kingdom and Cheran Theevu (Serendip) - Eelam Thamizh island (names as Srilanka after 1972)- But the Video didn't even mention about Cherar Thamizh Kingdom at all. The island, 🏝️ called Eelam Thamizh island called as Srilanka now , also was under the CHERAR Tamil kingdom and no wonder the European traders called the island as SERENDIP which is distorted veraion of Tamil name CHERAN Theevu.
@eleyloo
24 күн бұрын
In our previous Tamil Trade videos, we have detailed the Chera relationship with Mediterranean countries. Also, we can't include everything in a 5-minute video. We will post more updates in upcoming videos. Thanks
Now who are Tamil Muslims ( following Saafi (now many ) - Says Vaapa ) who Converted before 1000 to 1200 years ( who lives alongside of rivers and seas , thats called pattanam - City once ) to Islam not because of Arab Islamic preachers or different faith , but because Arab traders or people ( arabs & Persians ) accept and include everyone ( all people)and treated Same.., Tamil Hanafi muslims ( Says athaa ) Converted before 500 to 600 years in the period of mughal era..Preached Islam by Mughal Islamic kings..., Both people accepted Islam in different period by different people..
@MuhammadJasoor
22 күн бұрын
Can u give me the source of this answer sir? Any website?
@Creditnotmine
22 күн бұрын
@MuhammadJasoor you Can See in Coastal areas Cities, many names as Taher and Tayeb this name is So popular in Coastal towns in Tamil nadu and in Iraan also Taher and Tayeb is the V much Common name many many have Same like Muhammadh ( this they got by 1000 years or more back ..and also you Can ask your Village old people in masjid they will Say you the details...
@nurulhudavijapurwala4936
22 күн бұрын
Islam in dhrawidian and kathiyawad peninsula spread by yemenilites Sufis
@Creditnotmine
22 күн бұрын
@nurulhudavijapurwala4936 yeah, traders from many Arabian peninsular Countries and yeman is the first place and also by Shaam Desam ( it includes iran, Iraq , Syria , parts of Palestine, Jordan, Lebanon)
@ahairshi
22 күн бұрын
@@Creditnotmine I can confirm it is not (in my town at least), but what you said is partially true. We follow Shafi school of thought, as we have a connection with Egypt.
Arwi used in kilakarai
@ahairshi
24 күн бұрын
In Kayalpatnam as well. We actually called it Arabu Tamil.
This video using words like "supposedly" has attracted comments trying to Islamize Tamil just like there are attempts to Christianize Tamil.
@sunwukong2959
18 күн бұрын
true
@user-hh5xt7qx6i
16 күн бұрын
@@sunwukong2959 In Tamil nadu, tamil Muslims are majority when compared to Urdu Muslims. Tamil Muslims are once in a different religion and later they accepted islam as their religion. For many generations Tamil Muslims are following Islam.. If you see.. In marriage function, Tamil Muslim also wear silk Saree, they serve briyani in banana leaf at marriage, also do valaikappu, etc..
@sunwukong2959
16 күн бұрын
@@user-hh5xt7qx6i is called intergrated - asimilated malaysian Tamil women prefer to wear sarong than saree at home, they have kuih muih during diwali, seva, kosong, taachi..etc malay words in their Tamil. similarly these arabian traders settled down in TN started at 9th ce onwards those days conversion into Islam by Tamils were utterly rare may be my marriage or caste discrimination or forceful. Conversion to Christianity was wide spread. There is no histrical account of Tamils converted to Islam. Don't give that fictituos "cheraman" bullcrap as a proof, it has been debunked.
Can you understand this ? A is added in beginning or end in Middle East or India 🇮🇳, Abraham = Brahama, ( Abrahamic ) Brahama = Abraham ( Brahamaic ) Adam = dam , Allah = the raja Lah son of Rama, ( Islamic) , Languages in Islamic history, Aramic = a Ram- ic , is Ram’s language, Arabic = a rab ‘s language, also Arab- ic =Arab ‘s language.( was only spoken language, Alphabets/ takhti was borrowed from Farsi) Rama and Rab is Indian kings , long ago, as gods / Bhagwan. Is- Lah م = worshiper’s of Lah . is - ra - el = means , children of king Ra , ( el is a king as living god like Phiroon , Al- Skinndar or Al- Lah) is - ma- el = means , children of king Ma . Who was king Ra or king Ma , in history? Al gor, Al Roy, Al Lah , Alexander , Al - Skandar, also Quran called same manas Dulqurnan. A- ra ب = means worshiper of sun god Ra , ( sun god Ra Wally) , is - Ra - el , tribe of king Ra , Ra is Sun ☀️ god Ra, in many religious stories, even in Hindus as sourajj god / Bhagwan. Isa and musa are not name , they are , masa ( brother of Maryam) and Isa is son of Maryam, And Maryam was wife of Roman god king Cesar. Originally islam is modified by worship of older time gods, like Sun ☀️ worship, Bhagwan ra-ma worship and Rama son lah worship as Al- Lah.
@Dawah_Help
19 күн бұрын
Where is the peer-reviewed global academic papers that back up this speculation?
@yuriosato3565
Күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
Aramaic n Arab are just dialects of Tamil
@Dawah_Help
19 күн бұрын
No global university department of repute will support this embarrassing opinion.
@sunwukong2959
18 күн бұрын
this is a place for adults, can u pls go back to your playground, is time for you to drink hot milk and have bed story
Tamil language is derived from arabic. It has no relationship whatsoever with Sanskrit. Wonder why tamil leaders have sanskrit names? e.g Karunanidhi, Jayalalitha, MG Ramchandran, Erode Venkatappa Ramasamy etc. Its time they adopt true religion of Islam and take up arabic names.
@adghat7819
18 күн бұрын
Arabic comes under indo European languages family groups. Tamil is a Dravidian language group. Arabic has more similarities with sanskrit than Tamil.
@sunwukong2959
18 күн бұрын
@mohammedbawa4892 @adghat7819 Arabic belongs to Hamito-Semitic Languages not Indo European languages Tamil belongs to Dravidian group of languages Sanskrit belongs to Indo-European languages at least do some academical background readings
Tamils are not muslims
@Dewati_P
27 күн бұрын
Tamil is language, Tamil or Dravidian is their race.
@homelander8175
27 күн бұрын
@@Dewati_P islam is anti-Indian
@maangajuicemusician2516
27 күн бұрын
Tamizhl is a race. Religion has nothing to do with Race. Religion is not good but again race is important than religion because race holds real history, not religion. However, ethnic races living in ethnic lands is better if they stick to their original practices of that land followed by our siddhars (Aseevagam).
@maangajuicemusician2516
27 күн бұрын
@@Dewati_P Tamizhls are not Dravidians. Dravidians are from northern part of Africian country. Dravidians are the Bn'ai ISraeli races disguised as South Indians (I don't want to bring those caste names over here). They have been here for 1800 years just like how Sintastra Yamnaya Khazarians jews in the north for 3000+ years after successfully wipe off Harappan Civilization. However Balochis are Surviving their best in pakistan to represent the Harappan civilization as much as Pakistan Sikhs from North along with other aborigina ethnics from north India liek Charmar, etc. That's why north brahmins are Pancha Gaudas and South Brahmins (Including The non associative non-brahmins DMK hooligans) are Pancha Dravidas. They want to here to show that they are ethnics of this land. THEY ARE NOT EHTNICS of this land. Period. Infidels are infidels.
@maangajuicemusician2516
27 күн бұрын
@@Dewati_P Tamizhls have been there for 11,000+ years. Most of them were nagas and Yekshas and there were not much professional surnames at that time since saints were kings (They learn and master 64 skills from Agathiyar Gurukula from pothigai hills that was establisehd by the guidance of Saint Muruga pandiyan after the deluge as Aseevagam to revive the lost teachings of Tamizhl Vedams (Not the shitty Shunga Sanskritized books but rather oral teachings in repetition of internal vibrations as words. I learnt it from some person and not willing to disclose the name over here). Murugar was known as Dumuzid, Dragon, Al-Khadir (Kadhiravan), and many more names all over the world.
There is nothing called "Tamil Muslims". If you don't follow Tamil traditions, Tamil culture, and Tamil religious beliefs then you are NOT Tamil.
@karthikeyanchidambaram6560
25 күн бұрын
This video using words like "supposedly" has attracted comments trying to Islamize Tamil just like there are attempts to Christianize Tamil.
@neeldani7450
25 күн бұрын
@@karthikeyanchidambaram6560 They will keep repeating it and repeating. Two or three generations from now all fictions will be believed as facts because children will repeat what they hear and not question its validity.
@neeldani7450
25 күн бұрын
@@karthikeyanchidambaram6560 They will keep repeating lies. Lies become "facts" through incessant repetition.
@incredibler11
25 күн бұрын
May I know what is Tamil traditions & Tamil culture
@karthikeyanchidambaram6560
25 күн бұрын
@@incredibler11 Go to Internet if can't go to Tamil Nadu.
When Islamic Arab traders came to the island 🏝️ Eelam Thamizh island ( naned as Srilanka after 1972), there were Tamils only lives there and no wonder the Muslims, in the island, adopted theri Mother tounge as Tamil not Sobhala which was cooked up after 6 AD by miding Tamil, Pali and other languages.
Thamizhs called muslims as Anchjuvanaththaar and Soaanagar interchangebly. These are Thamizh words. NOT arabic or persian words. Anchjuvanathaar literally means people who have ownership over beautiful dreams. The arwi language was NOT used by the Thamizhs instead it was used by the mixed children born from thamizh women and arab men.
@uruvilaathakarjanan9996
26 күн бұрын
@SaranE-lw6zk; I am talking about the language. I am not talking about who convert to what. For Thamizh people, Thamizh language is higher than everything. It is said that for Thamizh people, the Thamizh language is even higher than one's own life.
@sunwukong2959
18 күн бұрын
@SaranE-lw6zk There is no academical or historical evidences about chera king converted, no archaeological evidence, no literary evidence, no inscriptions unless otherwise u r able to substantiate your claims with valid, credible and peer viewed published academical citations.
@user-hh5xt7qx6i
16 күн бұрын
@SaranE-lw6zkIn Tamil nadu, tamil Muslims are majority when compared to Urdu Muslims. Tamil Muslims are once in a different religion and later they accepted islam as their religion. For many generations Tamil Muslims are following Islam.. If you see.. In marriage function, Tamil Muslim also wear silk Saree, they serve briyani in banana leaf at marriage, also do valaikappu, etc..
@user-hh5xt7qx6i
16 күн бұрын
@SaranE-lw6zkIn Tamil nadu, tamil Muslims are majority when compared to Urdu Muslims. Tamil Muslims are once in a different religion and later they accepted islam as their religion. For many generations Tamil Muslims are following Islam.. If you see.. In marriage function, Tamil Muslim also wear silk Saree, they serve briyani in banana leaf at marriage, also do valaikappu, etc.. Religions and race both are different...
Looks like the Cholo, Pandian and Pallava kingdoms gained a lot from the Arab World