Tall Plants in Short Spaces

Some of the plants that I like to grow in the polytunnel will continue to grow so long as there is warmth and enough space. If I want to be able to get the most out of the crops I need to be able to control or guide their growth in some way in order to be able to fit them into my polytunnel that isn't very tall.
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  • @davidthegood
    @davidthegood3 жыл бұрын

    Always good to see a new video, Bruce. Thank you.

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    You bet!

  • @Raphaelo325
    @Raphaelo3253 жыл бұрын

    Laying tomato seedlings on their side...BRILLIANT! How, oh how, do I apprentice with thee...Thanks again for the great content, cheers!

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    It worked out better than I thought it would!

  • @PaulTheadra
    @PaulTheadra3 жыл бұрын

    Birb at the beginning is so cute hopping around your poly-tunnel, great video

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah the little robin is always close when I am in the gardens.

  • @carterriemer4609

    @carterriemer4609

    3 жыл бұрын

    You guys saw it to??? I thought it was a rat or a mouse until I slowed it down.

  • @bruellwitz

    @bruellwitz

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@REDGardens We have one or two robins around our (tiny) garden too and they are always nosing around as soon as we are outside. Funny, fearless little birds.

  • @declanbanfield4348
    @declanbanfield43483 жыл бұрын

    I applaud your commitment to primary research, and referencing others endeavors. My knowledge and understanding have grown from watching your work. Thank you.

  • @pomicultorul

    @pomicultorul

    3 жыл бұрын

    He is indeed amazing!

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. It is really great to know that people appreciate my efforts, and are learning from my experiences.

  • @premo154
    @premo1543 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Seems the tomato’s loved the growing method. I think it’s the correct growing method if you’re happy with yield for the amount of work you put in. If you smile when you look at your plants, you’re doing it right!

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    Totally agree!

  • @marielefebvre5891
    @marielefebvre58913 жыл бұрын

    Spring Hill Farms KZread channel has great vertical growing tips. Owner is in Canada, so her weather challenges are more severe and she grows enough to sell at farmers markets. I love her videos!

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the pointer to their videos.

  • @happygardener28
    @happygardener283 жыл бұрын

    I'd known about laying the stem of tomatoes down to provide more roots for the plants but your technique of training the plants in a stepped direction is genius providing a larger area for flowering while providing ease of access.

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have used the method of lying the stem down on the ground before but found that the lower clusters of tomatoes would end up too close to the surface of the soil. This method is more work, but seems to be better in my context.

  • @grahamrdyer6322
    @grahamrdyer63223 жыл бұрын

    What I do with my runner beans is, I cut half of them half way down at the end of July, they then put up loads of new shoots and so I get loads of beans later in the season.

  • @3umphbywill313

    @3umphbywill313

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Graham R Dyer....That's a fantastic tip!👍😃

  • @Finnnicus
    @Finnnicus3 жыл бұрын

    I’ve never seen pumpkins hanging from the ceiling before. Amazing

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    It seems to be the best way of growing them in a polytunnel or greenhouse

  • @Spetaelsk
    @Spetaelsk3 жыл бұрын

    You deserve more views, your videos are so good! Informative and inspiring, I love your content.

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you think so!

  • @3umphbywill313
    @3umphbywill3133 жыл бұрын

    You are by far one of the most intelligent individuals on this good green earth! I am SO fortunate to have found your channel and subscribed!🙏😌

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wow, thank you! Glad you found my channel!

  • @shamansalah1399
    @shamansalah13993 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    :)

  • @yourdaddy925
    @yourdaddy9253 жыл бұрын

    With love from Poland ! You are awesome my dear !

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! 😃

  • @olafkoster6434
    @olafkoster64343 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot for share your experience !

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    My pleasure!

  • @robertnoel2363
    @robertnoel23633 жыл бұрын

    Holy smokes brother, whatever you're doing i'm following! I wish my tomatoes came in that thick and heavy. Always a great and insightful video here.

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks 👍

  • @pomicultorul
    @pomicultorul3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you again for your high-quality videos!

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    My pleasure!

  • @paulettesaul4810
    @paulettesaul48103 жыл бұрын

    So informative. Many thanks for sharing your trials with us.

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    My pleasure!

  • @katooloughlin
    @katooloughlin3 жыл бұрын

    Love the manner you present with 🤘

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks.

  • @AbidAli-bv2gl
    @AbidAli-bv2gl3 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    thanks

  • @davidford694
    @davidford6943 жыл бұрын

    The somewhat hidden difficulty with squash is that unless they get enough heat they do not fully ripen, and taste very insipid. This is a perennial problem in this climate, so much so that I try to get our winter supply from the interior of the province, where this is not a problem. The only variety that I have regularly ripened in our maritime climate is Festival, a Delicata. Its vines are shorter than some of the other varieties as well.

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, I agree completely about them not getting enough heat to fully ripen. It is one of my annual battles, to try to find methods and varieties that will ripen properly. i typically get a lot of squash, but generally not quite ripe. Edible, but not delicious. I'll keep my eye out for the Festival variety.

  • @davidford694

    @davidford694

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@REDGardens I reiterate my offer of Emerite fillet beans, which btw finished producing with a 3 pound harvest over 20 feet on October 13, having begun on July 14. Just as tasty as the first harvest. And I add to it an offer of Festival squash. It would be good to exchange some family data in a less public forum. I tried Patreon but it refuses to accept my most recent password, an all too common experience.

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    Seeds would be great, thanks. My email is cjredgardens@gmail.com

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi David. The seeds you sent finally arrived!! The mail from Canada was seriously delayed for the past few months, but still arrived in time father new season. Thanks again.

  • @davidford694

    @davidford694

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@REDGardens May you have success with them!

  • @renatamarinoiu8156
    @renatamarinoiu81563 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! 👍😊

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    :)

  • @_sacredseven_
    @_sacredseven_3 жыл бұрын

    Great quality content. Invaluable information . Thank you🙏

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, glad you liked it.

  • @gailwarrington3841
    @gailwarrington38413 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Bruce great informative video as always 👍

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    You are very welcome

  • @NashvilleMonkey1000
    @NashvilleMonkey10003 жыл бұрын

    Sounds good~ Tomato plants send out long roots a little below the surface and can be found three feet from the plant a couple inches deep. We ran into them when collecting dirt for a new garden bed that needed some of the heavy clay in it replaced. Tons of tomato seedlings started coming up in the new garden bed, but it was already the fall season, so they ended up as mulch. Zucchini have a similar rooting pattern, as they grow extremely fast~ We're currently pulling out the few strawberry seedlings that have powdery mildew growing on the leaves, hoping to make them more resistant to it~

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, plants like tomatoes can have incredibly long root systems.

  • @ericolsen7687
    @ericolsen76873 жыл бұрын

    Bruce your videos are always very interesting because you continue to experiment and learn and improve. Thank you for sharing & keep up the good work~

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @mundanestuff
    @mundanestuff3 жыл бұрын

    I saw photos from a hot house tomato grower that aggressively prunes the lower stems as the tomatoes grow, and then uses a rotisserie setup to capture and loop the vines over and over as the top grows. They had two poles, one at either end of the row with a crossbar on top of the pole, forming a T with a hub through the cross member so the top of the T can windmill around in circles. They stretch something like line tight between the arms of the two Ts. When the pruned vine reaches past the lines, they start to rotate the cross bars to trap the now pruned vine and using that method, they take up the slack in the vine as it grows, keeping the new growth near the top of their heads, and always taking up slack in the lower part of the vine but also giving slack to the top of the line the vine is growing up. i.e. prune the old growth, give some slack to the top, apply rotational pressure to the rotisserie to take up the slack. Rinse, Repeat. After a few months, the rotisserie has rotated at least once or twice and now in the middle of their tomato plants they have a loop of old vine. The loop is as wide as the row, so it doesn't stick out and get in the way. I thought this was a very clever way to let the indeterminate plants grow indeterminately without eating all available space.

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sound very interesting.

  • @johnharrison1743
    @johnharrison17433 жыл бұрын

    Hi Bruce - yet another interesting video.

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey, thanks

  • @fxm5715
    @fxm57152 жыл бұрын

    Looking back at older videos, I thought I should add a comment to this one about tomatoes that I've also made elsewhere. I generally grow two or even three leaders from each tomato plant up a length of twine, so that they reach the top at about eight feet late in the season. If I only let one grow, it would easily overtop the support line. By letting two or three leaders grow in parallel, it slows the vertical growth to a manageable rate without reducing the total biomass or productivity of the entire plant.

  • @jeanmata6400
    @jeanmata64003 жыл бұрын

    Thats a good way to use small places to grow a lot more vegteabels

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    It is amazing how much you can get out of a small space if you work at it.

  • @danielfisch655
    @danielfisch6553 жыл бұрын

    Great video, I also grow vertically to save space and increase yields. Thank you for sharing another informative video.

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you appreciated it.

  • @kitchenwithfarzanaamin2835
    @kitchenwithfarzanaamin28353 жыл бұрын

    Very very nice beautiful video friend

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks.

  • @donaldclark1019
    @donaldclark10193 жыл бұрын

    Lean and lower technique changed my gardening life.

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    I used a method similar to lower and lean with my tomatoes a few years ago, and ended up with the fruit clusters too close to the soil so went with this step method instead. I suspect there isn't enough warmth here to ripen the fruit fast enough for the lower and lean method. Interesting to hear that you have had good success with it. Are you growing in a warm climate?

  • @hugalot27
    @hugalot273 жыл бұрын

    Great video, I've listened twice and will now go back and watch more closely. I have increased production in my vegetable garden in North Dublin this year to 800sqf of raised beds and, added larger polytunnel with 180sqf. I have weighed everything this year, aside from the raspberries my girls ate from the bushes. Your videos are very inspiring, in being meticulous about growing, planning, and learning from mistakes. I am going to sit down this week and plan for next year taking all my weights into account Thank you so much for all your work.

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! So great to hear that you are weighing things and using data as a guide tfor planning. Hope next season is even better for you.

  • @ewjorgy
    @ewjorgy3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Bruce, For the last several years I have been growing my squash on a horizontal trellis along a fence in my front yard from a 60cm wide strip of dirt. This year I managed to get 42 squash of 7 different varieties (would have been 57 except for the damn rodents). The fence is approximately 15m long and steps up from 1m to 2m along its length. I fasten horizontal wires every 30cm or so starting at about 50cm off of the ground and continuing to the top of the fence. I single stalk prune each of the plants and plant them in groups of 2 or 3 spaced about a meter apart. I let them grow until they are long enough to comfortably reach the first wire and then wrap them around it. Depending on where I want it to go I will either send it along a horizontal wire or keep running it up. Each vine gets it's own wire and they grow horizontally (some grow as long as 6m). Crossing the vines does not cause any problems that I have detected. This method keeps the otherwise unruly vines tidy and under control and looks really spectacular later in the season when the fence is covered in dozens of ripening squash which are particularly visible since they hang down away from the leaves. People actually stop in the street and stare at it in amazement. Other advantages that spring to mind are: I have found that keeping the vines off the ground helps to slow the spread of powdery mildew which in my area is the single biggest factor that usually ends the squash season. This configuration makes every flower much more visible which improves pollination and makes manual pollination much easier and more efficient. In a poly tunnel you can grow vines that are as long as you want since you can grow the entire length of the tunnel, go up a rung and reverse direction and grow the length of the tunnel again. I also wanted to let you know that I have NEVER - in 40 years of growing - seen the animal pressure as high as it has been this year. I would almost say the animals are in a full blown panic and are generally acting irrational and insane. They have been absolutely devastating my garden by ripping established plants up by the roots, biting every squash that they can get to rendering them impossible to store and digging up seedlings while they are still in the seed trays. I have had to erect hardware cloth cages around all of my veggies or they are destroyed overnight. My game camera has discovered that rats and squirrels are the major culprits but occasionally a racoon or possum comes through to add additional major damage. And that doesn't even get into the months of 100 degree heat, total lack of rainfall and horrific insect pressure. It is a wonder that I managed to get any crops at all this year... Take care, be well and all the best from California 🧡

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for sharing your experience and methods growing squash. it sounds very interesting, similar to the espalier apple trees, and I can imagine how it could work quite well, especially on a south facing wall or fence. And no doubt it looks amazing! That is really worrying about the animals!

  • @lljl5310
    @lljl53103 жыл бұрын

    Subscribed!!!👍

  • @SeededandRooted
    @SeededandRooted3 жыл бұрын

    Love it lots of food growing

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    :)

  • @LittlePetieWheat
    @LittlePetieWheat3 жыл бұрын

    I make toma--hooks out of old bed springs. I have a wire straightener made out of grooved bearings.

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    I had never seen tomahooks before, very cool. I might need to make a few to try them out next year.

  • @adinemarc7382
    @adinemarc73823 жыл бұрын

    Have you looked into the research on the Johnson-Su compost bioreactor. It’s supposed to increase soil microbe biodiversity through inoculation, which can increase yield and decrease fertilizers. The Center for Regenerative Agriculture has the research results. I’m going to make myself one come spring.

  • @MrRussbros
    @MrRussbros3 жыл бұрын

    Great video. I know that t is stating the obvious, but have you tried rooting side shoots of your existing tomatoes for later crops. That way you can follow your early tomatoes with other crops and your "new" plants can follow other crops in mid summer. You may find that the vigour of the younger plants leads to a greater (and longer) harvest. You could do the same with cucumbers by successional sowing.(s). I certainly think that there would be benefits in using younger plants that are less affected by pests and mildew and it might be less work. Thanks This method might even allow you to leave some of your more productive early spring or over wintering crops in your tunnel a little longer if they are productive in the knowledge that you are still getting a later crop of toms or cukes. Thanks again for all your informative videos

  • @easyandnatural6320
    @easyandnatural63203 жыл бұрын

    Looks like vegetables are still growing .it's amazing. Wish you were living in our neighbour hood. 🥜🥜🍊🍊🌰🌰

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well, most of the footage was from earlier in the year, things are pretty barren now.

  • @waweboardgirl
    @waweboardgirl3 жыл бұрын

    Love your videos! For your tomato issue perhaps tomato hooks could be a interesting solution. Greetings from Germany 👋

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    I only just discovered those, very cool.

  • @henkjanssen1252
    @henkjanssen12523 жыл бұрын

    Hey, I just wrap the twine around the roots of the plant and then attach it on top, this way no need to bother with tying rope around a rock!

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, That would probably work, as it doesn't need to be very secure at the base.

  • @stevehatcher7700

    @stevehatcher7700

    3 жыл бұрын

    I do this with my tomatoes, not in tunnels. I just tie a loose knot. Bean stems might be a tad flimsy but maybe that's ok inside a tunnel where wind movement is not an issue.

  • @RolandDerUnverbesserliche
    @RolandDerUnverbesserliche3 жыл бұрын

    I am now growing habaneros und chilis all year round inside or just outside of a single, humble flat.. It's not perfect, but if like 1/4 to 1/2 of the pots/boxes yield well, it's enough to supply dozens or even more people. I always have some aphids and mites, and always some ladybugs and sometimes hoverflies etc., especially all cold season long. The plants produce all year round. They change quite a lot if in front of the window or inside, but they are mostly the same plants. For me it is rather important to have at least a few fresh habaneros every week, not so much to have just one very big harvest like in late summer.... Your diversity approach is brilliant.

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    That would be an interesting thing to try. What kind of climate do you live in? Here In Ireland the plants would probably need to be inside under artificial light for about half the year.

  • @RolandDerUnverbesserliche

    @RolandDerUnverbesserliche

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@REDGardens The Climate in South Germany is rather even more harsh. Freezing nights do happen even in September and May...... My chilis and habaneros are all inside for weeks now. More Ladybugs started to get inside like for the last 2 weeks now.

  • @theopeterbroers819
    @theopeterbroers8193 жыл бұрын

    Did you consider using tomato hooks for lowering your plants? Instead of untying - lowering the plant - retying, the routine becomes detach the hook - unwind some twine - hang the hook. I never used them, as I don't have a hoop house or glass house. Selfbio, a German language channel on YT is rather fond of them.

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't remember seeing tomato hooks before, and only researched them when mentioned in another comment. Very interesting and potentially really useful with larger scale operations. I don't think they are available here in Ireland, but will have a look in Germany, or need to make some myself.

  • @theopeterbroers819

    @theopeterbroers819

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@REDGardens I just googled 'tomato hooks', limiting the search to Ireland. Just six results, how can that be! If you are thinking big: www.steenks-service.com/hook-winding-machine/ EDIT Selfbio sell the product here borago.de/produkt/4-Tomatenhaken_mit_Schnur [try Google Translate if you can't read German]. I think they ask a goodly sum for a piece of bent metal wire and some string. EDIt2 A company specializing in winding twine on tomato hooks? You bet! Tomatenhakenwikkelbedrijf van den Wijngaart kzread.info/dash/bejne/mJeMr5igdJqelZc.html

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    Interesting. If it comes with the twine already it could be worth it in small quantities. But I am thinking of spending some of the dark winter nights making a few of my own as I have a lot of wire I think might be appropriate. I would just need a jig to bend the wire appropriately. I came across this video about a faster way to wind the twine using a drill kzread.info/dash/bejne/X4Z92ZKtisanorA.html

  • @chrismcewan7582
    @chrismcewan75823 жыл бұрын

    Just yesterday I noticed a side shoot growing from the base of my cucumber plant (which is in my poly tunnel, already reaching the roof). I decided to attach it to a spare hanging chord I had and have decided that once it is a little longer, I will cut the older leader away leaving a much smaller leader to now fill the space. Not sure if it'll work, but I haven't been able to think of a reason why it won't.

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    That sounds like an interesting option. The plants roots are still there and I imagine will continue to grow along the second leader. I wonder if there will be any difference in the fruit, or if there will be a delay in cropping?

  • @chrismcewan7582

    @chrismcewan7582

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@REDGardens I will be sure to let you know in 3-4 weeks how it is doing.

  • @IS-217
    @IS-2173 жыл бұрын

    Another informative video. I like your annalistic approach to your videos, always very helpful. Veggies look great. Nice tomato crop! What are the jugs on the ground for. What do you do with them? Also, what type of fertilizer do you feed. I noticed you feeding the tomatoes something when transplanting into the tunnel soil. Cheers Happy gardening

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    The jugs are filled with water as a thermal mass, absorbing heat during the day and radiating it out gently at night. I use them to try to post the warmth for these plants in the spring. With this crop it was a mixture of compost, seaweed meal, and some chicken manure pellets.

  • @IS-217

    @IS-217

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@REDGardens thank you. good idea

  • @hugalot27

    @hugalot27

    3 жыл бұрын

    Interesting, in Japan many houses would have two litre bottles of water outside and around the gardens, I wonder if that's what they were doing?

  • @easyandnatural6320

    @easyandnatural6320

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@REDGardens how often do you change the water .so do you grow in winter months as well ??I.e Nov- Feb

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    @easy and natural I empty them during the summer and store them out of the way. I tend not to use them in the winter as the crops are usually smaller salad type crops that can handle the cold, and take up the whole bed. I feel they are most useful when I try to get the warm season crops growing faster in the spring.

  • @Picci25021973
    @Picci250219733 жыл бұрын

    Nice and useful video, thanks!!! Please... Transplantig the tomatoes, did you irrigated with compost tea, or was it just dirty water? tks

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, a liquid feed similar to compost tea. I feel it gives the plants an extra boost to get over any transplant shock.

  • @PaleGhost69
    @PaleGhost693 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if you could try acclimating seeds to grow in your climate since you have a way for them to grow. It could be as simple as taking all the seeds from the high tunnel produce and cast the extras into 'wild' areas. What survives will have the better traits for the climate and their seeds over time would be more adjusted. This is how a lot of people make cold hardy citrus and other plants that can over winter in cold climates.

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    It is an interesting idea. I haven't known anyone to have really success doing something like that, have you had any success?

  • @PaleGhost69

    @PaleGhost69

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@REDGardens not officially. I've done a fair bit of guerilla seeding and have seen stuff grow but the yearly mow of those spots prevents most things from coming back next year, except sunflowers. There are over a dozen ditches that took those like crazy. I don't see these spots often throughout the year but it was really cool to see pumpkin vines climbing the hill and fence in one spot I drive by often. They got mowed eventually and I didn't know if they produced fruit. No seed must have dropped because they didnt come back the next year.

  • @projectmalus

    @projectmalus

    3 жыл бұрын

    I highly recommend the so called red dandelion which is a chicory. No pests, beautiful radicchio colors, easy to pick and grow clean, self sows after a show of incredible blue flowers, manageable, delicious and high value. Nine plants per sq ft is about right if kept picked.

  • @IdiotF0ol
    @IdiotF0ol3 жыл бұрын

    I've tried the "Lower and Lean" technique of tomatoes in my home garden in Southern Florida and it's kind of "meh". Last year, when the plant reached the top of my trellis system, I pruned the leader and waited for a sucker to come out from the base of the plant and used it as a second leader to get an additional flush of tomatoes late in the season. I feel like it worked pretty well for me, even on my determinate Romas, but I'm going to try to do a comparison next year to test the actual production output. Just tossing that out there, though, as something I haven't seen others mention.

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    That is interesting about letting another side shoot form after the first one is pruned off. I have heard of a method where two strong side shoots are let grow from the beginning and there is three leaders per plant, which apparently prevents the main one from growing so tall, something I would be interested in trying.

  • @stevehatcher7700

    @stevehatcher7700

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@REDGardens i run two leaders on my tomatoes and each get their own string. Just let your first decent sized side shoot grow, while pruning off the others. Space your strings as you would growing single plants/single leaders, just half as many plants spaced farther apart. Lots of room for bigger root system before competing with neighboring plant. I've let a few plants go with 3, sometimes 4 leaders, each on own string. Not tracked yield differences there though. Leader height generally, not always, shorter on 3 or 4 shoot plants. But not by very large amounts. Depends on the growing conditions from year to year.

  • @vpeters2647
    @vpeters26473 жыл бұрын

    I've read topping been plants is detrimental , but never tried it, my green house is tall, so pole beans will easily grow out of reach. I've had some success hanging a layer of row cover about 7 feet above the plants( awkward to do) . The vines tend to bunch up at the top and not grow/produce as well. Interested in testing the pruning idea.

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hmm, that is interesting.

  • @naturbursche6878
    @naturbursche68783 жыл бұрын

    Have you ever tried working with tomatoe hooks? If yes, why arent you using them in your tunnels? Thank you and greetings from Germany. Keep up this excellence work!

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    I only discovered tomahooks after another recent comment. Very interesting, and I think I might try some next season.

  • @bjm7z
    @bjm7z3 жыл бұрын

    Have you found any guides for how to prune squash to a single leader? I’ve been looking to try this as well next year

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not yet! I think so few people would bother growing squash in a polytunnel as they are so easy to grow outdoors if the climate is right.

  • @bjm7z

    @bjm7z

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@REDGardens well, let us know if you find anything!

  • @brianneftalicontrerassanti3091
    @brianneftalicontrerassanti30913 жыл бұрын

    Have you ever thought about dropping the cucumber plants just like you did with the tomatos? I've seen in comercial cucumber farms in México do it. Great video btw

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was thinking of doing that, but I think I like this method better. But I should try the lowering method to compare.

  • @easyandnatural6320

    @easyandnatural6320

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@REDGardens what do you do with your harvest ?Mashallah it's too much ...I am very impressed by your gardening , polytunnel and space ,as I grow mine in containers.

  • @bjm7z

    @bjm7z

    3 жыл бұрын

    It seems like the lower and lean approach would potentially be easier for all of these than the double tying especially if you used something like the “tomahooks” someone else mentioned. I’ve also considered buying something like these reels that are used in greenhouses, but I’m trying to reduce my plastic usage GrowBiggerPlants RollerHook Tomato and Vine Crop Trellis (25 Pack) - EBook Included www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZRMI48Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_wQkMFbK944775

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have a type of 'farm stand' where neighbours can collect what vegetables they want and pay what they like.

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Benjamin McGinnis The lower and lean method is interesting, especially with the tomahooks (which I only just realised were a thing!). I had tried a version of the lower and lean method a few years ago but found that the lower trusses of tomatoes ended up too close to the surface of the soil. It might be because we don't get warm enough weather to ripen the tomatoes fast enough. But you are tight, it would be a lot easier.

  • @andreeabouros8981
    @andreeabouros89813 жыл бұрын

    Hi, would you be kind enough to tell me from where do you buy your tomato seeds,if you buy them? I'm from irl as well Thanks 👍

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    I buy them from a number of different places, including irishseedsavers.ie www.seedaholic.com and occasionally www.brownenvelopeseeds.com

  • @growingstuffs
    @growingstuffs3 жыл бұрын

    What variety of tomato is that? It seems very productive!

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    It is Gardeners Delight, and possibly the best crop I have had from that variety

  • @growingstuffs

    @growingstuffs

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@REDGardens Interesting! I have seen people have those giant, multifora-esque trusses before on Gardener's Delight.

  • @benm9910

    @benm9910

    3 жыл бұрын

    There is a "supersweet irish version" of gardeners delight. Ive tried it before and it may be the same one, maybe not though as the fruit look quite big. Fourth one down here: www.realseeds.co.uk/tomatoes_vines.html

  • @DX100HHH
    @DX100HHH3 жыл бұрын

    Hey. Do you shred those trimmings or just pile them on compost?

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    The trimmings I tend to just add to the compost, but the longer plants I tend to chop at the end of the season.

  • @DX100HHH

    @DX100HHH

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@REDGardens Was wondering would it be worth it to shred zuccini plant or some other big plants like pumpkin vines. If you had limited compost area.

  • @elmarsami3997
    @elmarsami39973 жыл бұрын

    How about you try the lower and lean trellis method

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    I hadn't seen that before, very cool, especially the wire tomahook holder! I have used a similar 'lower and lean' method with some tomatoes, only with just twine. The issue I had with this method is that the tomatoes on the lower trellises ended up lying on the soil, I think because the fruit ripen more slowly in our cooler climate (even in the polytunnel). I could try it with the cucumbers, though I would run out of space in the length of the polytunnel fairly quickly, unless I used the method of returning the plants back on themselves. I might look into do ing that next year.

  • @bjm7z

    @bjm7z

    3 жыл бұрын

    The thing I’ve seen (and am planning to do next year) is you have two parallel wires and you move the plants to one end of one wire and then transfer them to the next wire and move them in the opposite direction. Though this may end up with a lot of fruit laying on the ground if the plants grow faster than they ripen fruits in your context (as you noted).

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Benjamin McGinnis I just saw that method of wrapping around to a second line learning back the other way. Very simple and useful to keep all the crops in one bed.

  • @benm9910
    @benm99103 жыл бұрын

    Thanks as always Bruce! Super interesting content. You are so innovative with your growing and really pushing the boundaries of whats possible in your context, its such valuable work. A smaller fruiting squash may work quite well such as Thelma Saunders for the central bed planting or maybe Burgess Buttercup too as the vines arent quite so big. I'd encourage you to try some other varieties of open pollinated squash in the outside garden too if you haven't already, real seeds have an amazing collection of shorter season squash with amazing eating quality & some extra long keepers. (www.realseeds.co.uk/wintersquash.html) Burgess Buttercup, Anna Swartz and Thelma Saunders and some of my faves, I tried Ute Indian this year too an it seems very similar to crown prince but open pollinated, not sure if it is as productive but my plants did get some wind damage. I'm going to try the simple garden method next year with those squash and see how they do here in Yorkshire using that approach. I've also been meaning to mention the root development of vegetable crops book, related to the competition between your polytunnel courgettes and beans you showed a few weeks ago, but then I saw an old video of yours where you linked to it. Squash have such expansive shallow root systems it definitely adds to the challenge, the growth rates of the squash root systems in that book are astonishing. Its in the soil and health online library but I also just found a freely available higher quality version here when I looked for it again: digital.library.cornell.edu/catalog/chla2857348

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks fo the suggestions of squash varieties. I'll definitely look into them. Yeah, the root development of some plants is crazy, squash in particular. But I have also notice a lot of the larger brassicas can have quite big impact on neighbouring crops.

  • @bigpete4227
    @bigpete42273 жыл бұрын

    1:32 was that a robin?

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, always close by whenever I am in the gardens.

  • @bigpete4227

    @bigpete4227

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@REDGardens yes, sorry. I posted that and then read the other comments. There’s a a robin that follows me around my garden too.

  • @carterriemer4609
    @carterriemer46093 жыл бұрын

    No one saw the bird jumping? Aha hahaha😂😂😂😂 Wait better not be injured😥😥😥😥

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    It is fine. That robin is always close by when I am working in the gardens.

  • @carterriemer4609

    @carterriemer4609

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@REDGardens I had a little bird fall out of a nest and it hide under the garden hose and I tried putting it off of the ground but it ran through a fence and almost got ran over. It might have got snatched by a cat, got ran over, a dog had got to it, etc.

  • @patassion
    @patassion3 жыл бұрын

    What is the name of your cherry tomatoes?

  • @REDGardens

    @REDGardens

    3 жыл бұрын

    Gardeners Delight