Jorge TECHNICALLY didnt lie. The sirens werent antagonists. The men just killed them all no problem. In the actusl story, Odysseus had to keep his ears unpluged to hesr their song and learn what they needed to do (also Sirens in the Odyssey were flying creatured who would lure you to steer your ship into the rocks and eat your corpse. But he went with the mermaid interpretation)

@FakeJ0ker

29 күн бұрын

True BUT explain the face he made when the sirens was brought up 2:54 😂 either way it an amazing song

@bradleybarnett1469

29 күн бұрын

@@FakeJ0ker oh yeah, Jorge is evil. He drinks all of our mental health like a milkshake to survive XD. I love the evil looks he gives. Awesome songs, and kinda funny, because him hallucinating Penelope singing the verse the Siren did shows just how convincingly real she seemed

@FakeJ0ker

29 күн бұрын

​@@bradleybarnett1469I like to think that ody was both getting the info he needed and coping by talking to the siren as long as he did

@bradleybarnett1469

29 күн бұрын

@@FakeJ0ker oh yeah, definitely. Some comfort in seeing his wife for the first tim in 10-12 years. I'm kinda wondering why she thought he had a daughter, although it could just be her guessing he had a kid and assuming her magic would over her if she made a mistake

@FakeJ0ker

29 күн бұрын

​@bradleybarnett1469 most interpretation I've seen of siren songs usually mess up on some details probably just plot armor tho 😂

so we fulfilled some of the prophets tellings. a song of past romance: sirens a sacrifice of man: scylla portrayals of betrayal: mutiny a brothers final stand: thunder bringer

@FakeJ0ker

28 күн бұрын

That's true, I truly believe the other words are either "whirlpool, poseidon" Or "Charyibdis, poseidon"

fun fact idk if anyone noticed but in the song Mutiny when Ody yells "I AM NOT LETTING YOU GET IN MY WAY!" he uses the same melody as in Antinuous' Hold Them Down when he says "I will not let any part go to waste"

@TheWanderingWinion

27 күн бұрын

Wow i didn’t think of that- thats fantastic and i love how its portrayed🤩

@issackoi

27 күн бұрын

@TheWanderingWinion ye i dont think many people noticed that, but a few days before the thunder saga released, i was looking at snippets and i noticed it

2:31 LOOK AT THAT SMUG LITTLE FACE; he knew what he was doing to us!

I swear they just keep getting better and better every time

@FakeJ0ker

29 күн бұрын

RIGHT! can't believe there's only 3 left 😭

@Beymaster20247

29 күн бұрын

@@FakeJ0ker they can always do songs about the other gods in the mythology

@FakeJ0ker

29 күн бұрын

​@Beymaster20247 true, personally I wanna see a cut song saga after it's done

@Kukinno07

28 күн бұрын

@@FakeJ0ker Hey can you tell me where you watched the video? I know its probably the watch party, but I missed that, sadly

@FakeJ0ker

28 күн бұрын

@@Kukinno07 when I recorded this reaction I was attending the live watch party, but I do know there have been some channels who have reposted it

Also in the song ody actually asks eurylochus to light up said torches so he also dies. It's not that apperant in the music but eury gives his torch to someone else at the last second,that's how he survives

@FakeJ0ker

29 күн бұрын

I think what's sad is the in the animatic you can tell the Eury didn't mean for it to happen, he had regret on his face

@cirrusB612

27 күн бұрын

Yeah, I almost wonder if Eury gave the torch to that guy to keep him alive, not knowing the lights were a lure

@lysfranc8782

18 күн бұрын

@@cirrusB612it’s implied in the animation that he gave the torch to try to save someone else

Technically, he didn't lie, it was more of a misdirect, because originally I believe it was Tiresias who told Odysseus about both Scylla and Charybdis, so EPIC Odysseus finding out about Scylla from the sirens never happened! I think we all got tricked into thinking the sirens wouldn't make it into EPIC, which in hindsight would've been a huge miss, since a siren's whole schtick is singing sailors to their doom, and EPIC is a musical 😂 (Also, I got chills at the motif after Eurylochus kills the cattle, cause it sounds like the vocal motif in God Games!)

@literallyjustnikku5132

29 күн бұрын

Yeah I feel I same way! In another video jorge made he revealed what the background vocals in No Longer You were, and they were saying stuff from the thunder saga!!

@FakeJ0ker

29 күн бұрын

It was indeed a very good misdirect

@Miner49er201

20 күн бұрын

The vocals after the cow dies are just such INTENSE danger motif and give the feeling of the sun intensifying in light and heat, just bearing down on Odysseus and his men.

One thing that some people noticied and makes so much sense Eurylochus says "A statue of the god of the sun" and Ody says "This is the home of the sun god" so problably still Helios, but Eury didn"t knew that.

@Asteelyman13

29 күн бұрын

I think it's actually "This is the home of the sun god," but it should still be Helios.

@Meloned_turtle176

27 күн бұрын

I originally thought it was Apollo, I forgot about Helios

@liliva4505

22 күн бұрын

I'm gonna say Apollo because Apollo has cows as his sacred animal. And has a herd of them. Helios doesn't. Also Apollo is in the go games sooo

Fun fact. The ending music of thunderbringer is supposedly titled “Telemachus’ lullaby” and his song is the first one in the Wisdom Saga which is next

It's very ironic that you missed the "daughter" line because the vocals were so good. Truly a siren experience, careful in open waters! But really, this saga is so beautiful and drags you through every emotion from lighthearted excitement to concern to grief. Amazingly done.

The Siren stuff is actually in the source material, although the interaction went a bit differently because Odysseus was the only one without beeswax in his ear so that he could gain wisdom from the sirens per Circe's orders

I love how Jorge is just vibing like hell in the videos

I’m absolutely devastated by this saga but it was everything I was hoping for.

I had NOT seen the animatic before now and omg I'm crying at Thunder Bringer. Jesus Christ.

I also immediately recognized Suffering from one of his earliest snippets!!!

I think I was one of the first ones to realize they were sirens.

Wow! I had 1:1 exact same thought process in first two songs, as you wrote!

@FakeJ0ker

29 күн бұрын

I KNOW RIGHT? THEY WERE SO GOOD!

‘He turned in the torches’ How exactly do you ‘turn on’ fire? You ignite the torches… And it’s CONFIRMED to be Helios’ cows

@FakeJ0ker

28 күн бұрын

Yea, if u stick around ur gonna notice I don't English good at times 😂

I also was very confused at the start of the live! I didn’t actually like the song at first but now ofc I’m OBSESSED

I FRICKEN LOVE YOU REACTIONS! 🫶🫶🫶

the end get me

I LOVE your reaction ❤

@FakeJ0ker

29 күн бұрын

THANK YOU ❤

good reaction, loved the notes, very real 🙂 keep up the good work!

@FakeJ0ker

28 күн бұрын

Thank you so much!!

I noticed u fix ur thumbnail with the " Zues" HAHAHAHA

Wow!! You are the first i see hear the sirens screans in the song "diferent beast" you are amazing And.....Sorry for my inglish😅

how did you hear a snippet from suffering? there was literally 0 info on it online before its release

@FakeJ0ker

28 күн бұрын

Actually no, I just saw a tiktok about it today again, if you go to Jorge's tiktok and go to January 26 2021 you will find a tiktok about "suffering" but I don't think it was officially labeled as "song 21"

@FakeJ0ker

28 күн бұрын

I think it was in a phase of epic before any of the songs were confirmed or in the era where songs started getting cut such as "your light" and "olive tree"

Apollo is the sun god Helios is the sun titan. Apollo took is job and don't remember how or why

Umm... you spelled "Zeus" wrong in your thumbnail

@FakeJ0ker

29 күн бұрын

Or did i, kidding i just changes it