Talib Kweli & Rock On Sean Price, Heltah Skeltah, Boot Camp, 2Pac, Decepticons | People's Party Full
In this episode of "People's Party With Talib Kweli," Kweli and Jasmin Leigh sit down with rapper, writer, and one half of the Brooklyn duo Heltah Skeltah:
ROCK AKA ROCKNESS MONSTA
Here's what we got into:
• Rock's Brownsville, Brooklyn NY upbringing and early home life.
• First meeting Sean Price aka Ruck when he was 11 years old.
• Being a member of the Brooklyn street gang, the Decepticons.
• Steele of Smif-N-Wessun being the architect of Boot Camp Clik.
• Buckshot of Black Moon protecting BCC from signing bad deals.
• How the Five Percent Nation impacted his life and deciding to leave.
• Seeing Black Moon on TV while locked up and telling himself 'I'm on'.
• CEO of Duck Down Records, Dru-Ha being a stand-up guy.
• How the album, 'Nocturnal' impacted Talib when he first heard it.
• Rock apologizing for his and BCC's part in promoting Timbs.
• Heltah Skeltah's song, 'Therapy' and how it wrote itself.
• The unrelenting competitive spirit of emcee Sean P.
• Defining Boot Camp Clik's phrase, 'pulling a Ruck'.
• Asking Rock to explain what, 'Leflaur Leflah Eshkoshka' means.
• Wu-Tang's influencing the early decision of creating The Fab 5.
• The night Rock realized Ruck was a next-level emcee like himself.
• Breaking down some introspective bars from, 'Rockness A.P.'.
• Rock's most recent release, 'Ether Rocks' being delayed due to covid.
• Why he felt compelled to give Krondon a shout-out on the new album.
• An incident at Hot 97 that got Rock and Ruck banned from the studio.
• A fan pulling a machine gun on the group after asking for a autograph.
• The heated argument between Tek and Sean Bigga over Tupac.
• Rock and Talib's take on fans telling rappers how to do their jobs.
• How Rock's daughter has impacted his life and what he raps about.
• Learning how to navigate fatherhood from Sean P, Eminem, and T.I..
• What's next for the Rockness Monsta??
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Nocturnal is a 5 mic album in my opinion. There are no skips on that and I still listen to it to this day.
@StrictlyHighGrade
Жыл бұрын
Facts
@Teez31718
Жыл бұрын
Supa Facts! R.I.P #RUCK #SEANP
@torreypovich8023
Жыл бұрын
First cd I ever bought… first cassette I ever bought was Dah Shinin
@dexterroberts631
Жыл бұрын
Gun shot
@aoisthefutureTRG
Жыл бұрын
You ain't ever lie
The BCC deserved way more success and notoriety than they received. ALL of them. So much classic material.
As a diehard Sean Price fan this was my favorite interview ever on the People's Party
@Dimeloloco13
Жыл бұрын
💯
The Method Man of the BCC
@heavyhandsholmes.9494
Жыл бұрын
Good comparison.
@Charles-qm3mo
Жыл бұрын
I think ur right on that ! 👍
@heavyhandsholmes.9494
Жыл бұрын
Funny thing about it, Him and Meth are mad cool with each other, did songs together, both got unique voices and both around the same Height 6'3-6'5.
@traviscarter1023
Жыл бұрын
@@heavyhandsholmes.9494 They do remind me of each other. I just didn't know they was cool like that Wu-tang Clan and Bootcamp click crazy.
@originoomwizi
Жыл бұрын
Yeah he was definitely the early standout MC if the boot camp Clik….Early! I would say Sean Price was responsible for Reviving BCC in the new millennium
The Great Rockness Monsta! What an interview Talib! The summer of '96 I was 18 years old, just finished my freshman year of college, and I NEVER left the house without listening to the ENTIRE Nocturnal CD. It was fresh, it was different, it was brutally honest and hilarious.. AND, these two dudes just happened to rap their @$$ off! Ruck & Rock had the ultimate chemistry as a rap duo, probably only second to their brethren Smif & Wessun. Rock, the "Great Unknown" will forever be mah sh!¡... BCC the greatest, Bummy Jab the Beast of ALL BEASTS! Salute!
@Zone0ut
Жыл бұрын
I wonder why no one ever mentions the Magnum Force album. I think that’s equally as good as Nocturnal
Referring to Sean Price " oh he here!" Gave me goosebumps
TIME STAMPS: 3:39 -- The show begins with Rock's Brownsville, Brooklyn upbringing. He outlines his early homelife, feeling like a borderline nerd at school, and the transformation that took place leading up to his eventually joining BK's most notorious street gang of the time, the Decepticons. They go on to explore the first time he met Sean Price aka Ruck when he was 11 years old, how they considered one another family going forward, and Rock being early friends with Steele. 12:41 -- Rock speaks on the Decepticons gang, why they formed and how they were perceived by Brooklyn's residents while they were active. They go on to discuss Steele of Smif-N-Wessun and his role as the architect of the Boot Camp Clik, as well as Buckshot of Black Moon being a true visionary, and protecting members of BCC from signing bad deals. They also get into Rock's history with the Five Percenters and why he left the nation to join the Decepticons. 22:29 -- Rock talks about his being locked up in 1992 and passing the time being plugged into The Video Music Box. We hear about the day he saw Black Moon's video for 'Who Got The Props' and how he knew at that moment there was opportunity waiting for him when he got out. They go on to talk about the CEO of Duck Down Records, Drew "Dru-Ha" Friedman being a stand-up guy and how BCC was always a tight-knit group, trust never being an issue. 35:20 -- Heltah Skeltah's debut album, 'Nocturnal' is brought up and they get into how it impacted Talib when he first heard it, as well as Rock's not realizing the influence he and Sean P were having on the culture at the time. They go to talk about Boot Camp Clik and other NY rappers playing a huge part in the sales of Timberlands, as well as how Heltah Skeltah's song, 'Therapy' wrote itself, being true to real life, and how Ruck was something like Rock's therapist. 44:28 -- Rock recounts a story of being overseas in the late 90's and how Sean P felt after Talib and Yasiin Bey followed their performance on a radio show. They go on to discuss the competitive spirit of Sean and Rock goes on to define the Boot Camp Clik's phrase, 'pulling a Ruck'. Rock is also asked if he can break down what, 'Leflaur Leflah Eshkoshka' means, he explains how they took cues from Wu-Tang when creating The Fab 5, and Rock is asked when he realized his voice was special. 55:22 -- Rock is asked how he filled the void when Sean Price passed away and Rock goes on to talk about how much slang Sean was responsible for before tells the story of the night he became aware of Ruck's status as a next-level emcee like himself. They go on to discuss the song, 'Rockness A.P.' as he breaks down the meaning behind bars like, 'Sometimes when I look at n*ggas who came in the game same time frame as me, I’m ashamed of me.' They also get into how the crew felt when Rock landed a solo deal with Priority. 1:06:25 -- Rock's most recent release, 'Ether Rocks', produced by Ron Browz is brought up, how it's release was delayed due to covid and they get into Rock giving Krondon a shout-out on the new album after seeing him constantly serve beat-downs to Black Lightning. They go on to discuss an incident at Hot 97 that ended up getting Rock and Ruck banned from the studio, as well as a fan who pulled out a machine gun on the group who had asked for an autograph seconds earlier, and a DJ that got Heltah Skeltah's music banned from Connecticut's airwaves. 1:15:44 -- Tek and Steele's appearance on Math Hoffa is discussed and the heated argument that took place between Tek and Sean Bigga over Tupac, the supposed East Coast/West Coast beef, and how some NY heads felt about Boot Camp's being friendly with Pac at the time. They also discuss fans telling rappers how to do their jobs, how Rock's daughter Raquel has impacted his life and what he raps about, as well as learning how to navigate rapper/fatherhood from watching Sean P, Eminem, and T.I.. Finally Rock is asked what's next for the Rockness Monsta.
@philandeswilliams1975
Жыл бұрын
💡The Black community has not put forth their best efforts in BUSINESS & INDEPENDENT ECONOMICS.🎯 👉🏿 It took many versions of BLACK WALL STREET & INTEGRATION to turn the Black community away from Business ownership: 1️⃣In 💩🇺🇸💩american💩🇺🇸💩Race riots, the Black Business District was always destroyed, and 2️⃣ Many lynching victims were SUCCESSFUL BLACK BUSINESSMEN who 💩🇺🇸💩americans💩🇺🇸💩 were JEALOUS of.💯
@kevthepoet
Жыл бұрын
Talib and Sean Price on Sirius... kzread.info/dash/bejne/e5ejl5OJeNacZbg.html&ab_channel=GoodFellaMedia
@brianjeffries1978
Жыл бұрын
Man that dude is the truth Shout out to you Roc peace
Rock, you're underappreciated. I been playing your music since about 15-16 yes old. True certified barbarian NY s#it
Man, I loved and appreciate this interview so much. Rock is a Brooklyn bar GOAT and has been slept on for decades. Elite lyricism.
"Son I used to be a good boy, fat cheeks, little cute kid, Potentially rebellious yet a straight A student I listened to my elders til I found out they was stupid What they told me had me broke and bummy, time for some new shit" Heltah Skeltah is one of the dopest duos in hip hop history!
I BEEN ROCKIN PEOPLES PARTY FROM THE JUMP, THANK YOU KWELI! ABSOLUTE BEST INTERVIEWS IN HIPHOP! ACTUALLY PART OF THE CULTURE NOT A VLAD
Your voice is legendary ROCK! 5 mins in and grinning like this. Playing boot camp all day today!!
Evil Dee is the inspiration behind my SN. He don't get enough love. Glad they saluted him.
It's good to hear from Rock. Legend!
Portland, JAMAICA in the Building !!!!! 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
RIP to Sean Price but I'll say this til the day I die, Rock is one of the most underappreciated MCs in Hip-Hop history .
Loved this interview. It great when your rap hero’s are cool and down to earth people.
Got a lot more respect for this dude! Peace to BCC!
So excited to see Rockness in this chair
Strang and rock need to do an album together I've been saying it for years
Anybody remember those drawings they had on the Duck Down website around 96-97? Dudes in gas masks holding decapitated heads with spinal columns and shit? I went to actual Boot Camp in Ft Jackson South Carolina in 97 and they had us make art to represent our platoons. I brought that shit in and we represented BCC for the Warlords.
I didn’t even watch the interview yet, but I was hyped when I saw Rock from Heltah Skeltah!!!
Rock is a underground legend!!! Bootcamp forever!!!!
Brought back that 90s grimey, fatigue garment era... Great talk, everyone 🅿
@jalennelson6008
Жыл бұрын
And baggy pants!
Bigup to Rock for inspiring me to finish a song I'd been sitting on for a couple of days. Who knows what sparks these things, but I literally went from tank empty to overflowing about an hour into this.
One of "THE MOST" Distinguished voices in Hip Hop.
Rock is a Gem. We need him. Especially since he's the closest we're gonna get to Ruck.
@benzobrimzs
Жыл бұрын
He's a treasure
Rock is too underappreciated. A phenomenal lyricist.
the lady on the right in the back is authentically enjoying the conversation. Such good energy. Shout out to her for being a golden light.
Still the greatest opening line EVER… “It went down like THIS!” Operation Lockdown 4 Life!
@sovereigncosmicwildman
Жыл бұрын
I've said the SAME!
@murderwitahashtag840
Жыл бұрын
Ill give it 2nd to "IT'S BEEN A LONGTIME , I SHOULDNT OF LEFT YOU"!!
@williewashington9722
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, he washed Ruck on that track.
@frank-xp6pj
Жыл бұрын
That one little nigga was Buckshot 🔥🔥🔥
@frank-xp6pj
Жыл бұрын
@hollowvegeta9172 You got it homie…I always thought that was a dope ass verse by Rock, he pretty much told the story of how the camp got started from the very beginning…I Love 90’s hiphop & ESPECIALLY the emcees from Brooklyn 🔥🔥🔥🔥
R.I.P TO RUCK THANKS MONSTAH FOR OPENING THIS UNTOLD CHAPTERS TO US THANK YOU KWELI FOR BRINGING HIM MCH LOVE FROM INDIA
Finally, some Boot Camp Clik.
1st Heltah Skeltah lp is a MFN CLASSIC!!!! RIP Sean Price aka Ruck!!! I'll never forget in '96 @ Lincoln University Homecoming, my freshman yr, it was Heltah Skeltah, Monifah, and Jay-Z wit Bleek for 25$!!! BCC came out first and Heltah Skeltah started rocking out, my best friend since I'm 4 came to campus from Cheyney University and my younger brother came from philly for the concert. My best friend Bryan purposefully wore a red NERVOUS records t shirt. Side note: nervous was who bcc was signed to but they had just deaded that deal and adamantly didn't fuck with nervous records. He did this knowing full well the beef bcc had with nervous but it was an original BCC nervous jawn. Yo...I forget what song they was in the middle of but Rock in the middle of his bars stops, sees my friend, cuz we right in front, and his whole face changed. He screams to the DJ to stop the music, pull up the spotlight on us and comes over like "yo take that muthafuckin nervous shyt off! We don't fucking rock with them!" Like my dude this just for this moment, like wow, he takes the shirt off, starts swinging that shyt, Rock like yeah u fx with us right, we like hells yeah! Then don't fuck with nervous. And then the beat drop, back to the concert. When Jay came out he threw a stack in the crowd during dead presidents, all the chick's rhymed foxxy part on ain't no nigga! Def one of the greatest concerts and moments in my life. Salute to Rock and Ruck!!
Rock is a dope guy. I met him on the humble at a lids in Baltimore. I showed some love and he showed love back, respect.
BCC blew the door off the hinges on that Tony Touch Tape #50 Classic 🔥🔥🔥🔥 those universal Beatdowns were fr fr Peace to the gods & the earths 💪🏾 keep dropping Science Talib
This was a great interview, Rock is the man and I still check for his stuff to this day.
@daminharris3879
Жыл бұрын
Yuppp Rock still puttin out spittin bars dat Ether Rocks album is fire
Great interview! Been lookin' forward to this...shout out to the whole Boot Camp Clik, lookin' forward to seeing them on here in the near future!
Super dope interview and one of my all-time fav Rappers and Rap crews. BCC 4 Life. RIP Sean P. Thank you
@skygusto3639
Жыл бұрын
Yo he said he knew him at 11 and then he met him later. I'm confused...im calling CAP
This was beautiful and the stories that were shared with us were amazing thank you rock and Kweli for sharing those memories of ruck aka P! aka SEAN PRICE
Best ish i ever saw/heard. Thanks so much for all this
This is monstrous #seanliveson #monstanation
Been waiting on this. Rocknesss monsta
ALL I HEAR IS MYSTIKAL YELLIN "IM OUT DAT BOOT CAMP CLICK" OVER & OVER LOL~ WRONG CAMP CAP LMFAO😂🤣😭
He is is in my top 5 for him smooth witty, and catchy lyrics. Nocturnal is one of my favorite albums of all time. I'm glad he did this.
Nocturnal was THAT HEAT
@frank-xp6pj
Жыл бұрын
Yes sir, “ Man I’m like James Bond I shoot to kill Heltah Skeltah’s here “
Man BCC 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ grew up with their music I always felt Rock was underrated one of the top producers need to lock in with him to drop a classic project....LEGEND 💎👑
One of my fave crews of all times hands down (BCC is heavily slept on), Rock was definitely one of my faves along with Ruck (RIP). Love this interview and as said Nocturnal is a 5 mic album.
Rockness Monsta stomps ya brains in!!!
@100hands6
Жыл бұрын
Never changing forever face rearranging
love rockness. Can you guys get de la soul up here next so they can promote the re-release of 3 feet high and rising?
R.I.P. RUCK , LONG LIVE SEAN P !!!!!
This is great. Bcc forever. Seen Steele at the junction getting on the train and I said what up like I knew just threw music and the god gave me a pound and showed me love.
Super Underrated! 🔥
Amazing interview. Good work everyone involved 🙏🏼
Rock looking healthy
Big Up ROCK!!! Leflaur Leflah was my shit!!!
This interview slaps. I'd love to hear more Decepticon stories. Those guys were scary.
Fire interview of a legendary MC 🫡
Got me howling over here!! I never heard this before... CHAPS...Could've Had Polo Shirt! lmao!!!! Yo saw Black Moon in concert with Heltah Skeltah opening for them BEFORE Nocturnal even came out. I was a west coast Boot Campian back then. I bought EVERY album from that Clique in their hey day.
The legend himself R O C K N E S S M O N S T A H 🔥🔥🔥🔥🪓🪓🪓🪓
Dope interview love me some Bootcamp Click stories
Heltah skeltah is one of my best group of all time
Rockness one of the illest ever! His combination of ILL voice, flows, bars is insane TO THIS DAY! Nocturnal one of my favorite Hip Hop albums EVER! 5 mic classic to me! As an early 80s baby Hip Hop Head since 1991 (started loving rap late 80s, but was old enough to appreciate it in 1991 with my favorite emcees at that time Treach, G-Rap, Pharoahe Monch, Rakim, Cube, Lord Finesse, Grand Puba, Masta Ace, Kane, Posdonus, ATCQ, Dres, Del, Paris, B-Real, King Tee, KRS, 2Pac, Shock G, Nas after hearing him on Live at the BBQ, etc etc) 91-2002 were my formative years for becoming a Hip Hop head and Heltah Skeltah at their best will always be one of my favorite Hip Hop groups! Can’t wait for those last 3 albums Roc mentioned at the end!
I remember I went to a Sean Price show in Brooklyn and after he was done he dropped the mic and walk through the crowd and straight out the venue. 😂
So underated as an MC. Love this interview!
At 15, I bought an OGC Da Storm and an EPMD album based on the cover art and had no idea what I was getting into. Next time I visit a music shop I'm gonna try the same trick. Wish me luck in 2024.
Love rockness from heltah skelta
Errrr thang my brother rock said 💯 % actual Seanliveson 🤙🏾💜🤙🏾 BCC4LIFE
WILDERNESS sounds like a dope album title
@sovereigncosmicwildman
Жыл бұрын
Was Madlib the first to start this trend of combining names with who you're collaborating with? Like JAYLIB
Rockness just got dem bars
I am from the West Coast and I still bump Boot Camp Click/Black Moon.
Nocturnal and Stakes Is High were my 2 favorite hip hop albums in the summer of 96
Dope
Who got the Props! That beat! 🔥
Listen Helter Skelter was that team. I seen yall out here at Club Paladium in ORLANDO IN WHAT 97 ..96 ALL HIP HOP HEADS FROM UP NORTH WE WAS IN THE BUILDING WITH YOU FAM. FAT JOE WAS THERE TO CHILLING.
Is Brooklyn in the house?!!
Heavy weight content I fkn dig it . RIP Sean Price. Rock is a beast on the 🎤 still doe
love Rockmonsta, please give us another Album, Soon! R.I.P Mr Sean P, Even though I got Sean Price music in abundance I wish he was still here in life! miss the Brother Big time!
Salute too Kweli and Rock ..big fan of both of them Madd luv for Kweli and I'm from Ct
Great interview but missed speaking on 1 of the most amazing moments in hip hop history...the MONKEY BARZ album
Been listening to BCC since 95. They're up there with Wu for me... I loved hearing the history. I learned a lot in this interview. Thank you! Also.. Lugz were the most comfortable shoe that I've ever owned. Looool
Saw HS perform at the Rocksteady Crew 21st Anniversary along with Blackstar back in 99. The show was in the Bx but Brooklyn was definitely in the house! Got Rock's autograph, too.
Great interview
One of my favorite hip hop group album Nocturnal 🔥 💯💯
SEAN P!!!
Clicked the vid super fast. Big legends
Always watch, but subscribed because of this interview.
"Bringin forth heltaaah skeeeeltah" Been fan since I recorded Let The Madness Begin on the National Rap Show.
THANK U,THANK U,THANK U!..grew up a Bootcampclik Head ,from DC.. day 1 First Generation ERITREAN..I LIVE AND BREATH DUCKDOWN4LYFE!
Thank you for having Rock on! #ripPH #riPseanPrice 👑❤🙏
These guys deserve more recognition... They did alot for hiphop
This is probably the best podcast I've ever heard, maybe in the world!
Yo real shit Son , I feel you Rock we gotta talk about that past and Level Up, Yall
Legendary Rock!
I'm hurting I'm about to start to drink spicket water hope I manage not to get sick authentic shine bright shades
Peace i just found your show this was the first one I watched one of my favorite rappers MMM Monsta BIG Rock Obama the other half of a legendary group Heltah Skeltah Sean lives on Roc and Ruc thank you for the entertainment going to be checking your shows out Love Peace and Rolling Papers from North Carolina
You gotta understand I grew up in Atlantic Towers in Brownsville BK I also lived in Saratoga avenue I learned how to bust Rhymes in the hallway with Tek from smif n Wesson I was fortunate enough to me them best times of my life as a teenager and early 20’s all them dudes from boot camp are stand up individuals!! I’m so glad the big homie Tec & steel are still making good music I salute them !! ✊🏾🗽🗽
@frank-xp6pj
Жыл бұрын
Dam son, that had to be a one in a million chance to grow up with the Bootcamp clik members….in my opinion them cats shine more than the commercial rappers with the million$$$$ & the mansions etc….
Loved This ✊🏿
I love the brotherhood and the camaraderie here.Blessings to you both...
"The actions not lining up with the knowledge"...true words spoken
Peace from illatron aka littlerock, arkansas a big fan of heltah and the whole bootcamp since blackmoon had dropped in 93.