God i LOVE the way that mr fox and mr bear’s legs animated when theyre running away from the bees. The crows’ mouths unhinging in such a stilted manner, the water melon’s entire upper halves moving outwards, i think the way these things move is so hilarious and charming. Can definitely tell they were on a budget. Its so great to see them from different angles too, so used to only having the photos of these scenes. Love this ride

@okefenokee_rabbit

4 жыл бұрын

The Okee redesign required a pretty hefty budget, actually! By non-Disney standards, those animated figures were top-notch stuff at the time of their creation. On the subject of the ride's primitive animation, I think my favorite examples would have to be the pink puppeteer rabbit's head jolting around like he's being tortured with a voodoo doll, Fox and Bear in the fishing hole _incrementally_ leaning forward into a gravity-defying Smooth Criminal tilt, and the horrifying snapping motion and possessed unison of the carrots. Animations I think were actually pretty decent include the head of the cow, the head of the rabbit in my profile picture (the one controlling the Mr. Fox marionette), and Mr. Fox's very subtle "quivering" jaw in the ghost scene.

Wow, I just love the whole psychedelic 1960's appeal of this very quaint ride. It really reflects the style of its time, right down to the character styling and music composition. This is one of my favourite dark rides - I don't know why, it is probably just the charming way the effects feel both ahead of their time and sometimes cheaply executed.

This is still great! Of course this is not the end yet, we still need live footage of the full ride so let’s keep looking for more!

@SlushysSecret

6 ай бұрын

There really isn’t anyone with any live footage of it, unless there is another professionally taped footage of the ride somewhere

This footage is great, what a journey it has been for this ride recently

This ride is something and the crows singing always get stuck in my head it is so catchy

@okefenokee_rabbit

2 жыл бұрын

The soundtrack was surprisingly well made. It's a shame that none of the composers were ever documented.

The juxtaposition between the genuinely catchy music and the terrifying animatronics is really something special

This brings back memories. I remember riding this when I was a kid. I've told my daughter about it several times when we've gone through The Monster Mansion.

Love the video. Grew up riding this ride. I was among those that would hop out of the boat for a closer look at some of the animatronics. But we never harmed anything though we knew we would get in trouble if we got caught. Later in our teens it was where we went to make out.

It’s really cool this ride inspired Splash Mountain

This is incredible! The work that you and the many other people involved never ceases to amaze me! Thank you so much for sharing this with us!

@okefenokee_rabbit

4 жыл бұрын

Really, all you need to know is which people to contact. The only actual work I'm doing here is creating pet projects such as audio mixes and that still-outdated queue model I need to finish revisions for. Currently, I'm working on an edited arrangement of the footage set to a ride-through audio replica that's more accurate than any of the others I've created so far.

@barbiefilms20

4 жыл бұрын

@@okefenokee_rabbit That's still something significant. Don't be so quick to discount yourself. By the way, I look forward to seeing the edited version. I'm sure it will be astonishing.

@SlushysSecret

3 жыл бұрын

@@okefenokee_rabbit have you forgot? Or it’s not worthy of a video?

@okefenokee_rabbit

3 жыл бұрын

@@SlushysSecret That video is the "Accurate On-Ride Audio Mix" with Mizz Rabbit in the thumbnail.

@SlushysSecret

3 жыл бұрын

@@okefenokee_rabbit the rest of the projects?

Thanks for this rare footage of Tales of the Okefenokee.

That opening song is oddly the most catchy

6:31 Gotta go fast!!

@MrGoatfarmer

4 жыл бұрын

( Mr fox ) hurry brare , I mean , mr bear ! The bee are going to get us !

@MrGoatfarmer

4 жыл бұрын

It's Sonic the hedgehog , but it's a fox and a bear runing for bees .

Amazing find!

@okefenokee_rabbit

4 жыл бұрын

The day this footage was discovered was legitimately one of the exciting days of my entire life. It was like a holy grail that I never imagined could possibly exist was found with nothing more than a simple Google search.

Excellent!!

CLASSIC childhood favorite!!!!!! YAY!!!!!

( 8:12 ) ( Mrs rabbit ) bye now , ya hurry back ya hear ! ( Me ) the best line in the whole ride .

3:36 Making a Mockery with Marionettes Vol. 1 4:55 Making a Mockery with Marionettes Vol. 2 6:22 Making a Mockery with Marionettes Vol. 3 7:49 Making a Mockery with Marionettes Vol. 4

How am I just finding out about this. This is awesome

@SlushysSecret

3 жыл бұрын

It’s the okefenokee, from 1968 to 1980 find more about it at defunctland.

I am unsettled

I remember this ride when I was a little girl in the early 70’s 😊

@SlushysSecret

3 жыл бұрын

How was it? Was it dark no lights? Do you remember? Was it scary?!

Well THIS was a creepy ride! Makes haunted houses seem like a day in the park!

@okefenokee_rabbit

4 жыл бұрын

The "uncanny valley" factor of the Okefenokee is what got me interested in the ride in the first place. Most of the character designs were cute in their original acrylic forms as illustrated by Art Lozzi, but more often than not they didn't translate perfectly to animated figures built under the technological limitations of the late sixties. Many of the models suffered from bizarre body proportions, unflattering fur texture, and confusing facial expressions. The carrots in particular stand out as the absolute worst things ever made, pretty much. On a related note, the reason my profile picture is the face of the yellow puppeteer rabbit in particular is because he's always stuck out to me as being one of the only "cute" rabbits in the attraction, not being a victim of any of the detractors I mentioned previously in my opinion.

@scottakanumba1heathen379

4 жыл бұрын

@@okefenokee_rabbit It's "creepy" in a good way. To be fair, all animatronics, stuffed animals and dolls from that era were unintentionally creepy to me. Same goes for marionettes and even Fred Rogers' "Land of Make Believe" puppets.

@marcusblackwell2372

4 жыл бұрын

@@okefenokee_rabbit pardon my asking but what do u mean? Also, what does "Acrylic" mean?

@NumeroLetter

3 жыл бұрын

​@@marcusblackwell2372 Acrylic is a plastic material. It's likely that the illustrations in question were either sculpted from acrylic or painted with acrylic paint.

Cool!

@okefenokee_rabbit

4 жыл бұрын

Indeed. It's almost fascinating how far we've come since the days of having nothing but a handful of photos, an incredibly limited supply of footage, and a poor-quality audio mix.

@thatblindgamer726

4 жыл бұрын

@@okefenokee_rabbit I know. I also noticed that the music in the video sounds like the Chucks dark rides audio. Also how are my requests doing and is one finished?

Holy smokes! The madman finally found it!

Now all we need is footage of 1. The first crows scene and the opening 2. The full ghost scene (you only see the owls but not Mr fox and Mr bear) 3. The Arsenal scene 4. The storm (with the snakes, crocodile and trees with scary faces) 5. The briar patch 6. the full carnival scene ( the magician is missing)

@okefenokee_rabbit

4 жыл бұрын

Both Fox and Bear are perfectly visible to the left of the trough as the boats float past the ghost scene toward the puppet show (Mr. Fox raises and drops his arms and "quivers" his jaw, while Mr. Bear turns his body and head from side to side), and the magician rabbit from the ending scene was actually not yet present in the ride when this footage was shot; he replaced the hula-hooping rabbit likely between the '71 and '72 seasons.

@SlushysSecret

4 жыл бұрын

Weres hula hooping rabbit at?

@alexdionisos

4 жыл бұрын

@@SlushysSecret 7:19

@ZachLBlosser

Ай бұрын

​​@@okefenokee_rabbitDon't forget the cave with the snake and the storm.

Omg

Okee are you still going to make that video where you take the footage and put the ride audio over it?

@okefenokee_rabbit

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, and it's currently approaching completion.

Strange question, but what the animation of the raccoon in the fishing hole scene? I know it was previously discussed that this was filmed when the ride was closed, but it doesn't look like he has any motion

@okefenokee_rabbit

4 жыл бұрын

If you look closely, you can make out his right arm moving down slowly and then flicking back up. It's such a minor animation that I also assumed the figure was static upon seeing the footage for the first time.

the way they move is creepy.

Did the crows have the same problem like the rabbits fur? Was the Okees water soapy as seen in the silver 1967 film? This was a bit of a dumb question but what if you swam in the okee’s water? Where the size of the figures huge or a bit small? What could the interior of the okee smelled like? Was the okee considered a family dark ride? Or did teens go to the ride often? What if the okee exist for a few more years until the late 1990s? Was the ending of the okee stuck with boats at one point as seen in the castaway kids footage (Shows at the end boats stuck)? How where bull boats operated?

@okefenokee_rabbit

3 жыл бұрын

The crows' feathers appear to have been made of felt, as opposed to whatever types of fabric were used for the characters with fur. The crows might not have suffered as much from the humidity as the furred characters because of this, but I really have no idea. The Okee's water only would have been soapy along the ending scene circa 1967 and '68. After the bubble machine was removed, it wouldn't really have made sense for there to be soapy water anywhere. If you tried to swim in the Okee water, you would: a. Have to be a very tiny goblin-like person b. Come up covered in filth, because the water was probably filled with an accumulation of sludge, pieces of garbage, and cigarette butts by the end of each day I've seen numerous accounts of Monster having a very distinct scent to it - something like dirty water and rotting wood. I would imagine the Okee had the exact same scent. The Okefenokee was definitely a general-audiences type of ride. The air conditioning was a big draw, and teenagers in particular liked it because it (sometimes) provided a secluded place where they could make out, although this was presumably only possible on days when the park was very empty. The Okee would have needed a massive overhaul to survive past 1980; something on the same impressive scale as Monster. Imagine if AVG, for some bizarre reason or another, had opted to reuse the Br'er Rabbit characters instead of coming up with something new entirely. Everything in the ride still would have been thrown out just like in real life, and the scenes, art style, character designs, and soundtrack still would have been drastically changed as well. This is basically the only way the Okefenokee could have lived on. SFOG needed something totally fresh in that building; a few minor improvements here and there wouldn't even have begin to cut it. Even if the Okee had survived until the late nineties as a modern audio-animatronic dark ride, any video recording would be of the upgraded version anyway. The worst thing about this situation is that the ride definitely would have been replaced by some garbage like Scooby Doo or Looney Tunes in 1999 or so, as opposed to something made with passion and artistry like Monster Plantation in 1981. The boats probably only backed up at the end of the ride under two conditions: a. The ride happened to be particularly busy b. Loading operations were too slow for whatever reason The Okefenokee's boats were held in place at the loading queue by a gate in the trough on either side of the platform. When the gate swung to the side, the boats were carried forward through the trough by way of the water current alone. There weren't any mechanical parts in the boats, not counting the wheel-shaped bumpers that prevented them from spinning around. They were quite literally just fiberglass tubs that floated along at whatever speed the number of people inside of them allowed for.

Amazing footage! Could I please use some of this for a review on Monster Mansion? I will provide you with full credit for this footage and include a link back in the description.

@okefenokee_rabbit

3 жыл бұрын

You can credit me if you want to, but the original provider of this footage was A/V Geeks. The reel is public domain as far as I'm concerned, so really, you probably don't need to credit anyone.

@CanobieCoaster

3 жыл бұрын

@@okefenokee_rabbit Thank you!

@okefenokee_rabbit

3 жыл бұрын

@@CanobieCoaster Also, if you haven't already done this, you should download this footage through the link in the description rather than downloading the video itself. The downloadable version is in proper 1080p resolution, as opposed to this crusty 480p KZread version.

Okee68 , I have a question about the Crow Quartet . Were they design after the crow quartet from the Disney movie dumbo ( 1941 ) ? Because they remind me of them . ( their on 0:06 buy the way . )

@okefenokee_rabbit

4 жыл бұрын

The Okefenokee crows could very well have been based on the Dumbo crows, but I suppose there really is no definitive answer. All of the characters in the ride were most likely designed by Hanna-Barbera artist Art Lozzi, and knowing that several of his concept illustrations for Tales of the Okefenokee were indeed references to several of the old Disney storybooks based on Song of the South, it's likely that they were.

@MrGoatfarmer

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Okee68 for answering my question.

1:58 every 60s kid who visited musta had nightmares for weeks about those things

@okefenokee_rabbit

4 жыл бұрын

Whether or not a kid would have been creeped out while riding the Okefenokee largely depended on age, I guess. If I had personally been around to experience the Okefenokee at the age of five or so, I probably would have been horrified nearly every second of the way through. If I had ridden it around the age of ten, though, I might have been vaguely unnerved by a few things every now and then, but otherwise unphased. It's also important to note that while we may view Tales of the Okefenokee as being quite odd overall, during the late sixties and early seventies it was stylistically modern and technologically impressive, not only greatly resembling the colorful, inoffensive cartoon designs of the era (and with a modern sound to its music to boot), but also being quite cool from an engineering standpoint as well. (These qualities, however, definitely weren't holding up by the late seventies, so I'm sure the ride ended up scaring more and more kids as the years went by, especially after the terrible cosmetic overhaul of 1976.) One instance of absolute proof that the ride did indeed end up traumatizing a lot of young kids can be found in the 1972 audio recording I have on my channel, in which you can hear some kid screaming in the distance at one point, presumably at the carrots.

@marcusblackwell2372

4 жыл бұрын

@@okefenokee_rabbit what's the title? I saw 1 but I dunno which 1 u mean

@okefenokee_rabbit

4 жыл бұрын

This is the one: kzread.info/dash/bejne/oHiMr9GLnLate5M.html There are four of these recordings in total, all of which were taped by Tim Hollis in 1972. You can hear and download all four recordings as a single file on this page: jumpshare.com/b/fLjwH0iZFK6c08JMeGlg

@marcusblackwell2372

4 жыл бұрын

@@okefenokee_rabbit I've seen 1 lasting 28 minutes

@okefenokee_rabbit

4 жыл бұрын

That's just my source audio upload.

Was the bobbling motion of the crows intentional, or was it unintentional (Caused by the Crows' inner mechanisms moving)?

@okefenokee_rabbit

2 жыл бұрын

It probably wasn't intentional, but it made the crows look more animated if nothing else.

Can you give me the links to all the files that you’ve made

@okefenokee_rabbit

4 жыл бұрын

I've created tons upon tons of files in general for all of my various Okefenokee-related endeavors. Which ones do you want, exactly?

@thedizzer3831

4 жыл бұрын

Okee68 the the files That have the Okefenokee footage

@okefenokee_rabbit

4 жыл бұрын

Have you not checked the Google Drive folder linked in the description? It contains a download for the entire eight-minute film, and in higher quality than this upload to boot.

Anyone know where I can find a 70's Six Flags commercial with a certain song or jingle on it. I'm not looking for those with the old man dancing, though. I'm looking for the one(s) with the song lyrics that are like this: SIX FLAGS, SIX FLAGS, COME AND JOIN US ... AND ICE CREAM CONES. LAUGHING WHEN YOU'RE SMALL, SMILING WHEN YOU'RE GROWN. SIX FLAGS, SIX FLAGS, COME AND JOIN US !!! At least that's what I think it said. Any help in finding that commercial would be GREATLY appreciated cause I've been searching for it for many months. TY !!!

What do you know about the 1967 version.

@okefenokee_rabbit

4 жыл бұрын

I'm not really sure how to structure a reply to such a broad question, so I'll just make a bulleted list of random observations regarding the 1967 version: - The queue song seems to imply that early versions of the kidnapping and ghost scenes existed within the attraction prior to the revamp, presumably in the same spots their Krofft successors would occupy beginning in 1968. - The June 1967 issue of Southern Living Magazine, which features many never-realized concept sketches for SFOG, contains an illustration of riders in the Okee floating past a scene of the tar baby from the Br'er Rabbit stories. Assuming this actually made it into the ride, it probably would have been located where the puppet show was placed for the overhaul. - The "wheelbarrow scene" was located in what would become the cow-milking scene in 1968, and the most likely reason behind the set-up is that Mr. Fox was meant to have fainted at the sight of the mock-ghost and was being carried back into their cave in a wheelbarrow by Mr. Bear. - In the original version of the arsenal cave, Fox and Bear were probably meant to have been plotting some devilish scheme or another, and there may or may not have been foreboding voiced "wind" if the queue song is anything to go by. - Fox and Bear almost certainly appeared in the original "dark swamp" scene that was retooled into the storm for the '68 season. Not only does the queue song bring up the duo being equipped with lanterns, maps, charts, and traps during this section, but the Mr. Fox figure seen on the cover of the June 1967 issue of Southern Living magazine is holding what is clearly a sheet of paper, and what could a sheet of paper in this context possibly be aside from some chart of sorts? The theoretical Mr. Bear that would have appeared alongside Mr. Fox here likely held rabbit traps. - In the original ending scene, Fox and Bear (both entirely static) were seen being "chased away" by a line of rabbit kids proceeding toward them. The most likely scenario here is that the pair had been defeated by the rabbits so many times by that point that they were terrified at the sight of even a small handful of unarmed bunnies. Strangely, to the left of the rabbits playing instruments at the very end of the ride, another Mr. Bear figure (and possibly another Mr. Fox figure as well) could be seen. - Overall, it seems as though the primary reasons for the 1967 version's poor reception were its unimpressive animation, ugly character designs, and seemingly-poor ability to convey a coherent story.

Would've been nice if they showed the scary section in more detail.

@okefenokee_rabbit

4 жыл бұрын

The storm scene is pretty scarce in visual documentation, unfortunately. Really, all we have besides what's shown in this film is that single photo of the briars on the hillside and the scenery visible beyond the lift hill in the '67 footage.

@elwoodjacobs4353

4 жыл бұрын

@@okefenokee_rabbit And the concept art.

@okefenokee_rabbit

4 жыл бұрын

The concept art probably does offer a pretty good glimpse of what the various creatures found in the storm could have looked like; you just have to imagine them as real, physical models put together by the Krofft brothers under the limitations of automated puppetry circa 1968.

am i the only one that thinks its kinda creepy how the bears eyes roll up at 6:54 ?

@okefenokee_rabbit

Жыл бұрын

You're certainly not the only one. Plenty of people have informed me that they think it's unnerving. It's especially weird seeing as one of his eyes is jammed in its "up" position, making him look slightly demonic.

My favorite character is probably mizz rabbit (they called ms into mizz btw)

I noticed that the crows warning was on here and the audio is a lot more clear, is that the original reel?

@okefenokee_rabbit

4 жыл бұрын

Yes - the film was shot only a few years into the ride's run, long before the reel for the Crow Quartet's warning song was lost.

@thatblindgamer726

4 жыл бұрын

@@okefenokee_rabbit No way! I'm just impressed that we managed to find it! Just a part of it is good enough!

Does mr fox in the kidnapping part move?

@okefenokee_rabbit

4 жыл бұрын

Tim Hollis says he remembers Mr. Fox's hands vibrating up and down during the kidnapping scene. Keep in mind that quite a few animations didn't seem to be working when this film was taken for whatever reason.

in the scene where the fox and the bear are covered in frogs, are they submerged or touching the water? i doubt they would do that because it would degrade them faster, and they must have some mechanical parts. the footage is probably too dark to tell...

@okefenokee_rabbit

3 жыл бұрын

Fox and Bear were definitely submerged below the water, but their fur likely cut off just below it.

I wonder what exactly was the reason for how all this turned out. Like the different ways of filming (one on a boat with riders, one filming the scenes from different angles, and possibly other ones following riders), exclusions of parts of the ride, the inclusion of audio from the ride over scenes, how the owls from the beginning are put together with the ghost scene, the way the audio sounds, and maybe more. Do you have a theory or any more ideas about this? (though I think you mentioned in another comment why the “warning crows” are included and the ones from the beginning aren’t).

@okefenokee_rabbit

2 жыл бұрын

The film was shot from a multitude of different angles because it was presumably meant to be a compiled source of Okefenokee footage for use in promotional films. The whole ride needed to be filmed so that later filmmakers would have plenty of shots from each scene to work with. (Although the guys who filmed the sample reel still didn't end up getting any of the arsenal scene for some reason.) The contradictions of the ride's chronology, such as the transition from the owls to the ghost scene, were simply done because it didn't really matter how things were ordered. Once again, this film was made as a grab-bag of footage to be copied and edited down, rather than an accurate portrayal of the ride. Also, the first two sets of crows didn't both need to be filmed because they were virtually identical to each other. They happened to film the warning crows rather than the greeting crows, and so the greeting crows simply didn't need to be captured due to not being sufficiently different.

@AcumbaWumba

2 жыл бұрын

@@okefenokee_rabbit That makes sense. I guess I assumed that it was done for another Six Flags “Promotional Films” like the one that had GP’s version. Does that mean the audio was included for reference? So if the people could match audio (if they had that) with the right scene? Also, what happened to this footage? Is there any information that you know if this was used in any Six Flags film during the 70’s and 1980? And how did this become stock footage like it was found in 2019?

@okefenokee_rabbit

2 жыл бұрын

@@AcumbaWumba A forty-second cut of this footage was used in the 1971 documentary "Six Flags: History, Magic, and Mystery." The Okefenokee segment of the film was uploaded onto KZread in 2008 by a guy called Lain Shakespeare, and for eleven years it was the only footage of the '68 ride on KZread. The footage is public domain simply because Six Flags never bothered to copyright Tales of the Okefenokee (or any of their early attractions, for that matter). And you're basically correct about the audio being included for reference. It was likely only added to provide a more complete idea of the ride's style and tone.

@AcumbaWumba

2 жыл бұрын

@@okefenokee_rabbit Neat. I didn’t remember what was the year that documentary came out (I’ve read about that in another comment/comment section). BTW, I think it’s cool that this hunt to know stuff about this old ride has gotten so far. Anyway, do you think it’s even possible that other than the queue song, the soundtrack exists for the 1967 version of the ride? Since it doesn’t seem that any of the figures survived after the change, I don’t know if it’s reasonable to expect that other than the track they used, the soundtrack was kept. Though in theory, footage of the ride with the original soundtrack could exist?

@okefenokee_rabbit

2 жыл бұрын

​@@AcumbaWumba The possibility of any of the 1967 audio reels having survived is astronomically unlikely. Assuming they weren't just thrown out in 1968 (the most probable scenario), then there's no way they made it past the mid-eighties, when the audio department was relocated and all of the old, obsolete audio was disposed of (including the 1968 Okee reels). To my knowledge, the only surviving bits of the 1967 ride are the queue song and that animated bullfrog I have a video of on my channel.

I noticed the audio sounds like the chucks dark rides audio. Also is the warning song is the original master reel tape that was lost in the 80s? Because it's in a higher quality here.

@okefenokee_rabbit

4 жыл бұрын

The fuzzy audio quality is simply due to the audio limitations of the time, at least as far as consumer-grade 16mm films are concerned. And you're definitely correct about the Crow Quartet's warning song being a direct copy of the original reel, albeit pitched slightly too high. It's a shame it had to be bound by such inferior fidelity, though.

Is there a photo of the burnt carrots that was taken back in 1980?

@okefenokee_rabbit

4 жыл бұрын

I doubt it, as the carrots were probably just disposed of as soon as the flames were extinguished. It's not like there would be much to see besides a mess of melted latex and charred pneumatic pistons to begin with.

@cutiecookiecreme

4 жыл бұрын

@@okefenokee_rabbit 1. Did the chicken in the capturing scene survive the flame? 2. Any evidence of the '80 fire besides DAFE and some history videos?

@okefenokee_rabbit

4 жыл бұрын

1. In the DAFE article, Tim Hollis only mentions the Fox and Bear figures in that scene having to be refurbished, so presumably it did, along with Mr. Rabbit's disembodied head and legs protruding from the sack. 2. Not that I know of. Tim was informed of it by a former Okee employee, so I think it's pretty safe to assume it actually happened.

@SlushysSecret

6 ай бұрын

@@cutiecookiecremeI know this is 4 years later however a photo recently surfaced from 1980 with the watermelons being placed in the same spot as the carrots, which confirms that the carrots burnt a blaze

AMAZING! How's my requests comeing?

@okefenokee_rabbit

4 жыл бұрын

I've been preoccupied with other projects lately, although they might come into fruition eventually. Keep in mind that I'm not obligated to do these for you, and I only work on them whenever I'm not doing anything else. I highly advise you to look for a means of creating these kinds of things yourself, even with only a phone to work with.

@thatblindgamer726

4 жыл бұрын

@@okefenokee_rabbit Ok. What other projects are you working on?

@okefenokee_rabbit

4 жыл бұрын

At the moment, I'm creating a compilation of the footage set to an "ideal" audio mix that's more accurate to the ride than any of my other attempts.

Is this ride on tape or just footage

@aidans_invasion

4 жыл бұрын

CEC Rolfe Just footage.

Is there any footage of Injun Joe’s Cave

@okefenokee_rabbit

4 жыл бұрын

Not as of now, unfortunately (at least not in any obvious location online). It seems like "Injun" Joe never received even a fraction of the attention and documentation that Tales of the Okefenokee and The Cave garnered.

@thedizzer3831

4 жыл бұрын

Okee68 Well maybe there’s some footage but we just don’t know about it

@marcusblackwell2372

4 жыл бұрын

What was that? Sounds fascinating

@Puppetgirl93

4 жыл бұрын

Marcus Blackwell it was another dark ride Sid & Marty Krofft designed for Six Flags St Louis, it was based off the stories from Tom Sawyer with Injun Joe being the antagonist, there is a bunch of photos of the ride that are available online but no known footage is known to exist! The ride closed I think in 1980 and was replaced throughout the years as various dark rides Time Travel, The Castaway Kids etc before ending up as a Marvel’s attraction

I never really thought of it until now, but were Mr Bear and Fox in the swamp scene in water? That would be so bad for the fur

@okefenokee_rabbit

2 жыл бұрын

They were indeed situated in a pool of water. I'm sure their fur ended immediately below the water, so it probably wasn't that big of an issue.

Mainly, I have more Questions if you could answer, when did the revamp of the okefenokee open in 1968? Did the Carrot figures foam deteriorate overtime? Is the theory that the water track was filled with more water so the ride would be less fast? And did they keep the carrots music after the watermelons replaced the carrots?

@okefenokee_rabbit

3 жыл бұрын

The '68 version of the Okee presumably opened in March, which to my knowledge has always been SFOG's first month of operation for each season. I couldn't tell you how much the carrots may or may not have deteriorated over the years; I don't know the specifics of the exact material they were made from. I have no idea what you're referring to with that third question. All I can say is that the boats in the Okefenokee travelled faster than the ones in Monster, because the Okee's water current was stronger. (Okee was four minutes long while Monster is five.) The original Save the Rabbit song was almost definitely still used after the fire; it wouldn't have made sense for the watermelons to even be there to begin with if the song had been removed.

@SlushysSecret

3 жыл бұрын

@@okefenokee_rabbit Thanks Mate!

@SlushysSecret

3 жыл бұрын

@@okefenokee_rabbit The third question I heard [I believe] was from defunct land I think he said that the water was filled more or less I think less probably cause of the because of bandits stealing clothes…

@okefenokee_rabbit

3 жыл бұрын

@@SlushysSecret Supposedly, a trench was carved into the bottom of the trough (I'm not sure which side it was dug into) which would have filled up with overflow water. I'm not sure how exactly this would have prevented people from jumping out of the boats, however, and I've never even seen photographic evidence to support the trench's existence. If the trench was ever put in at all, you would think it would still be there to this day.

Say Okee68, do you have any idea as to what the 67 Okee soundtrack may have sounded like? It's ok if you can't think of anything.

@okefenokee_rabbit

6 ай бұрын

I've always wondered about the possibility of the musical motifs from the queue song having been repeated throughout the songs in the ride itself, similar to how many of the songs in the 1968 ride share a common leitmotif, but there's no way of knowing, of course. I'm very certain that the rest of the soundtrack would have had a campy tone very similar to that of the queue song, however.

Why’s Mizz Rabbits Clothes changed in the Tim Hollis image in the washboard band scene? Which was the original? The green or pink

@okefenokee_rabbit

3 жыл бұрын

The characters' clothes changed over the years simply due to getting damaged or stolen and needing to be replaced. The pink dress was the original, and was replaced by the green one.

@SlushysSecret

3 жыл бұрын

@@okefenokee_rabbit I forgot this answer, But why were the fur of the figures changed?

@okefenokee_rabbit

3 жыл бұрын

@@SlushysSecret Same reason their clothes changed: deterioration.

Okefenokee

@okefenokee_rabbit

4 жыл бұрын

Very insightful comment, I'll say.

do you happen to know if the figures of mr fox and bear in the frog scene (6:54) are sitting in actual water? it kind of looks like it.

@okefenokee_rabbit

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, they were. There was even a little rock waterfall to the right of them just barely visible at 6:55. In the 1967 Okefenokee footage from the 1969 promotional film I have on my channel, the waterfall is a lot more clear than it is here.

@seanmcaleer4316

3 жыл бұрын

@@okefenokee_rabbit I know you said that 7 of the animatronic moments weren’t working when this was filmed, was one of them mr. bears eye at (6:54)?

@okefenokee_rabbit

3 жыл бұрын

@@seanmcaleer4316 To my knowledge, the only figures that weren't working when the footage was shot were Mr. Fox in the kidnapping scene and the drumming rabbit in the washboard band. I don't know where you got seven from.

@seanmcaleer4316

3 жыл бұрын

@@okefenokee_rabbit oh sorry I saw saw in the description about several animations not working like mr fox’s arm and the bunny in the band, I took the eye at 6: 54 as one on them not working bc it looks weird how he only has one eye

Is this the full ride footage? If not it is still amazing

@okefenokee_rabbit

4 жыл бұрын

Still no footage of the arsenal cave or first set of crows, unfortunately. We still have yet to come across some _good_ footage (or even just good photos) of the weirdly-elusive storm segment as well.

@marcusblackwell2372

4 жыл бұрын

@@okefenokee_rabbit i thought the 1st crows in the video were the first. Or were there other crows that greeted guests?

@okefenokee_rabbit

4 жыл бұрын

The first set of crows you see in the video are actually the, "Turn around, go back!" crows. Since the first two sets of crows were set up almost exactly like each other, using the "warning" crows in place of the "greeting" crows didn't really make any meaningful difference.

@marcusblackwell2372

4 жыл бұрын

@@okefenokee_rabbit if so then were the greeting crows the ones who sang "Welcome Neighbor Welcome" placed after the warning crows or not? Sorry for asking so many questions

@okefenokee_rabbit

4 жыл бұрын

No, the crows were placed in the logical order. The filmmakers simply used footage of the warning crows from the middle of the ride to represent the greeting crows at the beginning of the ride, likely because the camera crew simply didn't capture any shots focused on the _actual_ first set of crows once again due to how nearly-identical the two set-ups were. Feel free to ask as many questions as you want, by the way; I love answering them!

Is it just me or is it that all of the audio is pitched up a bit?

@okefenokee_rabbit

4 жыл бұрын

Both Crow Quartet songs definitely are (which is something I pointed out in the description), although I'm not too sure about any of the other songs, except maybe "Save the Rabbit".

@aidans_invasion

4 жыл бұрын

Okee68 Yea I definitely hear it with “Save The Rabbit.” And the crow quartet songs. I thought since both songs are pitched up a bit, I figured that the whole tape was pitched up for a reason.

Why are most of the animatronics so static?

@okefenokee_rabbit

4 жыл бұрын

Outside of Disneyland, theme park animation circa 1968 could only be executed via simple, non-computerized methods; the Okee in particular using both pneumatic and rotary devices controlled by basic electric motors. Because attempting to create animated figures that could have accommodated such space-consuming devices in more than just a few places would have proven mostly useless, it only makes sense for the characters to have been restricted to only one or two simple movements. Actual animatronics were still in the future back then, and in fact, I'm pretty sure Monster Plantation was the very first true animatronic dark ride to open outside of a Disney park.

@marcusblackwell2372

4 жыл бұрын

@@okefenokee_rabbit I'm not quite certain what some of the language means but I know what ur talking about: so Disneyland had the most resources & money at the time so all other American parks didn't have a chance to be as fluent because they didn't have any of Disney's tech luxury?

@okefenokee_rabbit

4 жыл бұрын

Pretty much, yes. Disney parks have always been ahead of the game.

What if you okee figures still existed, and would it be possible to restore?

@okefenokee_rabbit

2 жыл бұрын

As it turns out, several Okee figures do still exist and apparently still function. We haven't seen them, and we don't even know which ones they are (except that one is a Mr. Fox), but they were saved by a ride employee who still owns them to this day. However, due to an extremely unfortunate and outstandingly idiotic series of events that transpired last month, the owner will likely never capture a single photo or video of the figures.

@SlushysSecret

2 жыл бұрын

@@okefenokee_rabbit wow, that’s actually good to hear, The figures are about 50 years old and still functional! Let’s hope he or she will one day

@SlushysSecret

2 жыл бұрын

@@okefenokee_rabbit so is the theory that the okee figures being thrown out kinda wrong?

@okefenokee_rabbit

2 жыл бұрын

@@SlushysSecret Yes.

@okefenokee_rabbit

2 жыл бұрын

Although the vast majority of the figures were still thrown away.

Wait, did the carrot fire happen while people were on the ride??

@okefenokee_rabbit

3 жыл бұрын

That seems to have been the most likely scenario, yeah. Fortunately, there was an emergency exit and a security guard right behind Mr. Bear's shack.

@katieduquette6391

3 жыл бұрын

Okee68 Dear god that’s terrifying. As if those carrots weren’t cursed enough

@SlushysSecret

6 ай бұрын

@@katieduquette6391by the time 1980 rolled around, there were probably only around 5 or less carrots because over time each one would be trashed because of mechanical issues, and replaced with shrubs, so a lot of the fire could’ve also been spread by shrubs blocking most of the remaining carrots at the time

No one: Mr. rabbit: WAKES UP BEES* Mr. Fox and Mr. Bear: RUNS TO THE HILLS*

@elimalot6295

Жыл бұрын

Hi old me.

Okee68 I think I know what mr rabbit is carving I think he is carving the chicken that was trying to save his life! Jeez mr rabbit!

4:55 Making a mockery with marionettes Vol 2

I found something else

@okefenokee_rabbit

4 жыл бұрын

I'm intrigued. Can you post a link?

@thedizzer3831

4 жыл бұрын

Okee68 I will upload when I get a chance it is to Disney World 1971 in color

@okefenokee_rabbit

4 жыл бұрын

Sounds pretty neat. I'll definitely be checking it out.

@thedizzer3831

4 жыл бұрын

Okee68 It has a watermark

@thedizzer3831

4 жыл бұрын

Okee68 I uploaded it

01:58 Singing carrots. 😸💀

Courtesy of Tim hollis

@okefenokee_rabbit

4 жыл бұрын

Skip Elsheimer of A/V Geeks sent this to me, not Tim Hollis.

@aidans_invasion

4 жыл бұрын

Okee68 wasn’t the video clips shot by Hollis?

@okefenokee_rabbit

4 жыл бұрын

Tim Hollis would have been eight years old or younger when this was filmed, m8.

@aidans_invasion

4 жыл бұрын

@@okefenokee_rabbit Did you watch the interview with hollis on defunctlands channel? He said he filmed the clips when he was young when he filmed the footage.

@okefenokee_rabbit

4 жыл бұрын

He recorded four audio tapes, all of which can be found here: jumpshare.com/b/fLjwH0iZFK6c08JMeGlg I do believe professional-grade film cameras weren't exactly available to the average eight-year-old in 1971, nor were special permissions to capture footage of a Six Flags dark ride during an off period.

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