I really admire the fact that u took back some of ur past opinions as u simply realized they werent "correct" anymore or just "dumb". It takes a lot of courage to do that on an online platform especially when more than 17.5k ppl are following u and things cld take a toll any moment. I really enjoy watching ur videos and its fascinating to know abt ur opinions and other ppl's as well thru the comments. Waiting for more fun vids!!!

@winterosy

2 жыл бұрын

🫶🫶🫶

@kyuuix4914

2 жыл бұрын

“correct”, Sorry what?

@misa2308

2 жыл бұрын

@@kyuuix4914 she meant they weren't ''right''

I think someone on surface level will think that stray kids "reuse" their title tracks or make the same sounding song, and I will agree to a certain extent, Gods Menu and Thunderous definitely sound like sister songs. However, with Back Door, Christmas Evel and Maniac, I'm so confident they made those 2 songs sound similar on purpose. If you look at their previous tts, I am YOU being a softer song, levanter being a rock ballad, they do have a versatile range. I think they're waiting to show their different sides again after gaining a huge amount of success and fame.

@prettylife6086

2 жыл бұрын

SLAYYYYYY AGREEEDDDD PURRRRR DJLLSDLSDHKS

@crackbae7610

2 жыл бұрын

My take on this is they found their popularity on god's menu so they made songs with almost the same vibe which honestly i dont blame them for it.

@crackbae7610

2 жыл бұрын

Their other songs shows their versatile range but failed to find popularity. I think right now they are waiting to have a more stable fanbase and then they will show a different side. They just cant risk it right now.

@dolphin-le3mo

2 жыл бұрын

@@crackbae7610 I think i can agree with you. skz did gain major popularity from gods menu which they didn't have before to support their previous cbs. I think the release of maniac was a major stepping stone for them to expand their boundaries as of recent title tracks. otherwise if you listen to their bsides, the variation in sound remains.

@sour.lemonny8344

2 жыл бұрын

Tbh their title tracks usually end up my least favourite (except for Side effects and Levanter), but they all are definitely strong, leave a big impact and showcase their talents. In my mind the main purpose of a title track is not to be the best song of the album, or be a masterpiece, but to attract attention, to make people check them out. Their title tracks work really well in that aspect, they have cool choreos, show off their rap line, which is their strong point, the mvs look amazing as well as their visuals. And then you check out their b-sides and see all these different genres, rap-only and vocal-only songs, unit songs, and choose the area of their music that you personally enjoy. So when they have a comeback I never expect too much from the title track, but if it ends up to my liking, then it's a pleasant surprise for me. What matters to me is that the title track managed to attract new people to the fandom. If it works, then it works, and I don't care much if they reuse their sound as long as their besides are as good as they are now. Still, I wouldn't say that their title tracks sound the same, they have a pretty good variety. As you mentioned, only Thunderous and God's menu actually sound similar.

Here’s an opinion: Some idols literally just want popularity, fame and end up being some trophy husband/wife to some rich person. They have no creativity, no effort and the fans are like the company doesn’t let them. It only applies to some of the idols. Most idols don’t even care what they are singing or if they are singing they just wanna be on camera and be loved that’s it.

@Kaybye555

2 жыл бұрын

Yep Opinion: Idols are not innocent baby angels

@marzipan24

2 жыл бұрын

Agree. Or they just didnt know what to do with their lifes. It seems only a few idols are really passionate about music. Many singers wouldn't join a kpop group as well, cause the industry is ridiculously image oriented.

@thgfghft5857

2 жыл бұрын

you do know that alone to become an Idol they are going through hell right? Like most of them throw away their childhood to be Idols

@tokkiliin

2 жыл бұрын

Facts

@tokkiliin

2 жыл бұрын

@@thgfghft5857 There’s idols who only train for a shorter period and tbh if you’re really obsessed with the money and fame it’ll get you through it too

I actually prefer this type of videos. Like you don't have to say 100 kpop opinions but you can talk about 3-5 kpop opinions deeply. It's more entertaining and interesting. (still I'll watch both of them tho)

@stanleymaximillian8403

2 жыл бұрын

Because this is the way we talk with our friends, not buy saying opinions in 1 sentences and then go away wkwkwk

People will always say, this group has the best rappers or this one has the best vocalists, but I don’t really get the point of that bc like you said, the best or most interesting groups just work together perfectly and have chemistry.

@valen-tl7pc

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, this is a very obvious example but look at BTS. They're the most successful group of kpop and everyone says they're overrated because they aren't the most talented group. But who says they're famous for that? Even if they're crazy talented, what made them famous wasn't if they're the most talented group or not, it's the chemistry and great teamwork that lead them to where they're. I'm pretty sure there are better singers and dancers in the kpop industry, but no matter how talented you're as an individual, if your teamwork and synergy isn't strong, you won't really succeed🤷‍♀️

@myhopeisjhope8315

2 жыл бұрын

@@valen-tl7pc they all are talented too let's not

@myhopeisjhope8315

2 жыл бұрын

but also "best rapper", "best vocalists" , "best dancer" or anything like that are very broad concepts. it's more like an opinion to every person each their own

@valen-tl7pc

2 жыл бұрын

@@myhopeisjhope8315 But i didn't say they aren't, I'm an army that's the last thing i would say😭 I actually said they're crazy talented because for me they are amazing dancers, rappers and dancers. But I don't know the whole kpop industry and with all the idols so I can't say they are "the best" because there are probably others that can be individually more talented (but as you said, it's really subjective) than them. But my point was that talent isn't the first thing for a group to succeed, it's the synergy and team work what's important (something that no kpop group has done better than bts)

@myhopeisjhope8315

2 жыл бұрын

@@valen-tl7pc i agree then in general. i think it's the synergy/teamwork and the music that's the most important for a group success. if i just wanted to hear best vocals i would go to the opera for example same for dancing and rapping

Red velvet reached their peak?! Glad you took that back because of Feel My Rhythm thank god

I don't find anything wrong with idols who do this job just for money or if they don't have passion for it. This is just a job like other and you don't necessarily do a job coz you are passionate about it ,sometimes you do it coz it pays you well and you can take care of yourself and your family . If you have the skill for job and you do it with honesty and hard work ,I feel that's enough.

@lavendermelon7889

2 жыл бұрын

yeah it's nothing wrong but it just kills the joy to watch people like that. Listening to your faves sing and dance are part of enjoying and having fun but when it feels forced, we're not enjoying anymore. I think that's what the creator meant.

@tokkiliin

2 жыл бұрын

If they do a good job ok but not if you can clearly see they’re only in for the fame and money

@alishaavale4298

2 жыл бұрын

@@tokkiliin what is so wrong about it? Some people like being famous , this way or other way , there ain't anything wrong as long as nobody is getting hurt coz of it

@yd3216

2 жыл бұрын

@@alishaavale4298 Like the other comments said though, what's enjoyable about watching someone get up on stage and not even enjoy themselves? They won't get any support doing that and in turn will lose popularity and have to quit the idol life cause the company has no funds because no one wants to watch someone get up on stage and not care...

@alishaavale4298

2 жыл бұрын

@@yd3216 of course they enjoy themselves. Here my thought , some idols enjoy fame so to maintain that fame they work hard on music and dance coz thet know if they don't be a better singer or dancer they are gonna loose the fame that they are passionate about. When on stage they enjoy the love and glamour they receive from the audience and camera whilst enjoying the work of art that they have worked hard to enhance. They do care but they care about fame and they do everything thet could in their power to maintain it. I have seen idols that I feel are in this line of work just for fame and money and are immensely popular. Obviously it's my personal observation so I might be wrong but I feel it's nothing wrong to want to be loved by others

i love anti drops so effing much omg. The best anti drop for me was home by svt.

@shanti8953

2 жыл бұрын

For me Home and SF9's Now or Never and Tear Drop are the most mesmerizing ones i've listened, some of my favourites!

@slayteezxsvt7752

2 жыл бұрын

@@shanti8953 masterpieces fr. especially now or never

Unpopular opinion : - stayC's and Ive's song are best of gen4 - Itzy needs to step it up if they didn't want to get washed by aespa - I missed kda soyeon (esp her rap)

@mickeymouse7857

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with the first one, their songs are just fun and easy to listen to, it's not gimmicky.

@coffe1170

2 жыл бұрын

i agree so hard on the last one. soyeons rap in tomboy was just not it for me. her rap in villain dies was okay though

@obin6256

2 жыл бұрын

@@coffe1170 check her rap in The Baddest, one of the best kpop rap verse that I've ever listen

@coffe1170

2 жыл бұрын

@@obin6256 thank you for blessing my ears

@nayjashah7368

2 жыл бұрын

I'd add purple kiss and txt to that first one, these are the main 4 groups that I see doing rly well I the future and enjoying their music as well

Whenever people say God’s Menu and Thunderous sound similar I want to write a full essay on it……on the surface they might because they’re both noisy and they’re of the same or very similar genres, but they’re noisy in such different ways. God’s Menu uses a lot of sirens, alarms, screeching, heavy heavy repetitive synths and even a piano line in the pre-chorus. God’s Menu starts loud and then drops down in the pre-chorus before wailing out again in the chorus. Thunderous uses a steady clap track to start before dropping into a much “emptier” first verse than God’s Menu, utilizing a traditional wind instrument and lighter percussion. The pre-chorus doesn’t drop down first before building into the chorus, it builds right from the get-go and infuses even more traditional sounds. The chorus is loud and bombastic with muted but powerful brass, and the second verse is again much emptier and calmer than God’s Menu. There’s a psych-out on the second chorus, but God’s Menu doesn’t even have a second chorus. Thunderous has a more traditional song structure whereas God’s Menu has the iconic Felix Bridge instead of a second chorus. And God’s Menu ends the way it started, with Changbin’s initial rap, while Thunderous ends on a third chorus. I just genuinely don’t understand how the two are “so alike” when they’re structured differently and utilize different primary instrumentation. Is it because they both start with Changbin and then Han? Because Felix kicks off the bridge? And? And?? What else? What am I missing??

6:52 Jesus Christ i couldn't agree more. When Woojin allegations dropped everyone turned on him, started calling him Woojail, ugly, a bully, saying they never liked him in the first place and guess what? It turned out to all be fake. How can you expect an apology for something an idol didn't even do, but when you are the one bullying them then it's all okay because reasons? Same with Garam, if she is a bully then the company should take action, not fucking ADULTS on the internet bullying a teenager for allegedly being a bully. Even if she really is a bully, you're no better than her.

Nmixx girliess are so talented and they sung live so well 😍soooo its really worth stanning them

Thank you for elaborating on the ATEEZ and IU ones ❤️ As for anti-drops.. I was complaining literally yesterday that if there are too many anti-drops then they kinda lose the point 💀 (and I LOVE anti-drops)

As an Atiny, I'm glad you took back your past opinion about Ateez. I'm really looking forward their next comeback! May 25- Japanese comeback July - Korean comeback

@jungwonbebe20_

2 жыл бұрын

When did she gave that opinion?

Also adding on to that last opinion you shared - it’s ok for people to enjoy songs that aren’t necessarily the highest tier of kpop! Kpop is meant to be fun and tearing someone to shreds because they like a song considered to be average or bad is really not something to be proud of, you’re not cool for not liking this stuff

@foreverneverlandblink4304

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly... like everyone said Vanilla or Wa Da Da were mediocre, but they are catchy and they are fun. I like listening to this type of song way more than that complicated stuff without any structure or with instrumentals that don't fit the vocal melodies. I came to like Kpop because most of it is not complicated, not deep, and just puts me in a good mood.

As an atiny, i'm glad you took your past opinion from ateez cuz they are different like their style. They always come with something unexpected that always wow me at anything. The fact that i came back listening to kpop after i felt like they arent for me anymore but these pirates literally catch my attention again after i lose being a stan as an army.

I love red velvet. Their one of the few old groups who hasn’t given in to trends and when they do it’s their own. They also don’t annoy me and come access fake. Wendy’s amazing comeback alone made me love them more. the main issue is sm and how they purposely give them bad songs or underplay how talented they all are:(

@Sonanokaaa

2 жыл бұрын

Ugh yes I love Red Velvet, they don't follow this girlcrush trend, not that I hate girlcrush, It just annoys me sometimes the "I hate love, I'm a bad gurlll" vibes and Red Velvet releases some great mature and sexy music like Kingdom Come, Perfect 10, etc. That doesn't put love down, instead, are very mature songs, IDK how to explain it in words. Red Velvet is becoming my top gg. PS: This isn't a hate comment to groups who "follow the trends" It's just that I feel like it doesn't work to every group and I'm glad Red Velvet does it own thing, I mean, look at Feel my Rythm, Psycho... such elegant music.

@1975shivaji

2 жыл бұрын

you do know that Red velvet is not a self composing GG right, as do many other GG in the industry. many ppl just like to bash SM and other companies all the time, when the entire wonderful diverse discography of redvelevet (esp b-sides) was SM's special touch you know? I do have my own opinions about their bad policies & management which are obvious, but give credit where it's due you know?

same opinion with stray kids ! idk like theyr music are ok but I feel like the could slay another concept than the loud electronical sound. And I wish fromis_9 will keep doing new type of music like talk and talk

@amanhaniftambu3319

2 жыл бұрын

People shitted on talk & talk soo much like why do people hate pretty girl music they just hate fun pls- 🚶🚶🚶🚶

@amineyousfisevt136

2 жыл бұрын

@@amanhaniftambu3319 because of the anti drop in the chorus but when u get it you get it purrr

@memorablename69

2 жыл бұрын

@@amanhaniftambu3319 idk talk & talk feels just little off beat

@thylionheart

2 жыл бұрын

Have you checked out their songs Waiting For Us, My Universe, Gone Away, Grow Up, Gone Days, Ex, The View, Sorry I Love You, Get Cool, Awkward Silence, Spread My Wings, Winter Falls, Another Day, Surfin’, Red Lights? I’m not saying that you have to. If you don’t care, then that’s fine. I’m just listing off songs where they *have* done different genres, sounds, and concepts. SKZ isn’t limited to their title tracks just like how BTS isn’t limited to Dynamite and Butter, and [insert other group comparisons here.] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Edit: adding Mixtape: Oh and Hoodie Season to that list, can’t believe I forgot them

@amineyousfisevt136

2 жыл бұрын

@@thylionheart I have listen to some song in the list and it's true that I really like some like Ex or Winter falls I just wish they could do an album more concentrated on thoses types but anyways thanks for the list of song to check out

6:52 I COMPLETELY AGREE, IT MAKES ME BOIL WITH ANGER. Honestly, here they are talking sh about a certain idol, WHILE DOING WORSE, from a mistake. It's like, no one can be forgiven. And then when/if it turns out it was just a rumor made to degrade an idol, they don't even apologize or care, they just move on after ruining another.

unpopular opinions: 1. some "baby" fans are more mature than most "veteran" fans. And the fact that these self proclaimed veterans always blame the baby fans only prove my point even further. 2. i said some baby fans because yes there's still a lot of immature baby fans. acting like they own the group and always gatekeeping their faves. and most, if not all, inside fandom wars are caused by these two kinds of "fans". 3. this could just be me but i hate it when i see clips of ships in groups that doesn't even make sense? most clips i see are just plain coincidence or really just no connection at all. not everything your "ship" do is intentional. sorry for the little rant...

@shatteredbeautysumin7413

2 жыл бұрын

I'm a half baby and veteran fan of some groups, sometimes i rarely get myself involved into drama happening especially if it involves my fav, well perhaps only one time tho i did grew out of it

@deanxzayn1408

2 жыл бұрын

So basically it has nothing to do with being a “baby” or a “veteran” fan its about the person themselves. If they toxic, they toxic no matter which fandom or at which age.

@mico4464

2 жыл бұрын

@@deanxzayn1408 basically yea. being a fan has no age limit and no starting point. if you like the group, you're a fan. idk why others make it sound like being a new fan or an old fan is bad when they all basically are "fans" who loves their idols

@deanxzayn1408

2 жыл бұрын

@@mico4464 yea and maturity in kpop fans has nothing to do with age as well, hardcore fans can become quite defensive about every single thing about their idol. I literally know a 25 year old who has a whole Twitter acc dedicated to fighting with people about her idols. Kpop fandom is beautiful yet very ugly and especially big fandoms. Some fandoms literally act like they own their idols.like they are humans too, let them breathe. Its just sad . We should all just enjoy together and respect the idols private lives.

@user-oz7qh5wk5l

2 жыл бұрын

Baby stans are more mature and reasonable bc their brains are rotted by kpop yet

"individual talents do not matter if the group works well" apart from what you said i feel like in a group when there's one member is lacking in something and rest of them are extremely talented. even when they work well together their lacking can be seen easily and it kinda weighs the whole group down. mostly in live stages and performances. it doesnt matter much in MVs but in stages you see almost every member giving their best and then one member just being there giving nothing. overall the group works well but after a point in time it starts to weigh them down.

@dumpstacy

2 жыл бұрын

agree

@argentums8410

2 жыл бұрын

Oh, I thought I was agree with op, but you changed my mind. Because you're right, when someone stands out it really ruins the whole experience even if person is not exactly bad, just lacking in something. I stan TXT, and I think they're not in the picture when people talk about best someone, maybe except for Yeonjun in dancers category and sometimes Taehyun in vocal category. But they work extremely well together, so it doesn't matter. But it works because not even one of them bad at singing or dancing, no one sticks out like a sore thumb, so skills do matter a lot even if cinergy is good. I feel the same about StayC. All girls are good at what they're doing, their vocals are above average, and their dancing skills are pretty good too. So yeah, I agree

I (respectfully) disagree with the last opinion. Like especially with the Blackpink example, everyone always talks about the blackpink formula and I would say around 75%-80% of kpop stans don't like their music. If we settle for mediocrity then we're just gonna get bad songs, and it'll reach a point to where no-one feels like they have to try anymore. But regardless, I really liked this video!

@lavendermelon7889

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. I really liked bp until the ddu ddu du comeback. After that everything went downhill (imo) they release very mediocre songs after every 10 years. I lost interest over the years and I still haven’t listened to rose’s songs or Lisa’s songs because it just didn’t pique my interest. Clearly the formula doesn’t work for all the audience. It’s just so sad that such talented girls can really take over the whole music industry by storm if they were managed properly. (Some might tell that they’re already taking over the world by storm even now but no, they could’ve been so much better than this) They’re very talented but so poorly managed. I feel sorry for them. They’re just models at this point.

@Ash081284

2 жыл бұрын

I really like their older songs. The song that I can remember that I totally totally... totally dislike is "Kill This Love." It's just noise to me. Of course it's not the girls' fault but the producers/company.

@claggor6378

2 жыл бұрын

Same

@nayjashah7368

2 жыл бұрын

not a blink, but I think its more about the whole group of ppl not just kpop stans, most ppl that get introduced to kpop are either thro bp or bts (which is obv since they're so big but the music gets there) as the op said there's always that one part that gets stuck in your head and I feel like that's true for most of bp's title tracks, they follow a rly bland formula but it works to get the "general public" to like them not just "kpop stans"

@destiny3189

2 жыл бұрын

@@nayjashah7368 this is a really valid point that i didn’t think of! i still agree with the last part that i said though, that “blackpink mindset” is just gonna lead to a really big decline in the quality of the music we’re listening to

Is it only me or o.o is kinda bearable to my ears now

@rubyswindells9738

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I kinda didn't like, or didn't vibe with O.O at first, but on my second listen I was like ''Yeah, actually, this is kinda alright, ngl''

@blacktothepink3571

2 жыл бұрын

It’s kinda getting better the more you listen to it the more better it gets.

@gonegonethankyou

2 жыл бұрын

it's actually a nice song to be honest but I feel like most people including me talk shit about it because of the change and you know what I'm talking about lol

@rubyswindells9738

2 жыл бұрын

@@gonegonethankyou I think I know what part you're on about?

@deanxzayn1408

2 жыл бұрын

@@gonegonethankyou naah i think people talk shit because it really was unbearable to listen ti st first, and it took me many listens to get used to it. Now i even sing along when it plays but all the criticism wasn’t for nothing i think. Jype gotta step up their game with their comeback

I feel so strongly about the opinion that it’s more important for a group to have good synergy than to have individually crazy skilled people without them fitting. I feel like the authenticity of having a group is lost when companies put people together only because each person is extremely skilled (which nothing is wrong with because it can work sometimes). I just feel like even though it’s admirable that they’re talented, companies should just debut them as a solo artist if they don’t care about the cohesion of a group. Those kinds of groups always feel like it’s just random people put together; even though they’re really skilled, everything about them just feels off. You can really tell when a group has good chemistry in just the way they perform together, but many newer groups lack that because companies are trying to make super-groups for some reason.

4:24 as an atiny, i accept your apology, the real is an extraordinary song

- that NMIXX, yeppp, I hope they will return with a good song - I think the same with that anti drop part - I completely agree with that catchy song... even it is a worst song ever... it will be a huge successful lol

Personally, I think the reason why so many idols don't have passion for their job is simply because they achieved their goals. Their goals of debuting and becoming a celebrities. Many idols just like dancing and singing, they don't have higher ambition or passion for it.

@diarythatyouforgot8704

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Many idol just stuck in their trainee dream of becoming idol. Once they're debuted, it's like they're lost the fire.

@miagarcia_

2 жыл бұрын

Ikr, that's why I never consider Kpop idols as an "artists" or passionate for "music" cuz no they're not.

@ayeon5609

2 жыл бұрын

@@miagarcia_ Thats a generalisation but I get what you are saying. For me if a idol atleast have a passion for dancing or dancing or singing, then I personally consider them artists.

@vanessashola6806

2 жыл бұрын

@@miagarcia_ I think a lot of western artists have that problem too tho, I don’t think it’s just kpop

I strongly agree with the one of the group having a good chemistry rather than being the best ones individually. Like, that's how it works everywhere:.You just need to look around in handball or volleyball teams... 🤷🏻‍♀️

I agree with the nmixx one. They r so talented.

Tbh stray kids has literally THE most diverse discography (no, fr, they have around 150 genres so far) so I don't really get how they could switch it up more. Maybe the title tracks but it seems like they are starting to develop that too with maniac

@thek-nerd3143

2 жыл бұрын

150 is more than their discography tho??

@xnctxo9876

2 жыл бұрын

I think they’re just using a hyperbola to express the group’s genre diversity ^^

@thek-nerd3143

2 жыл бұрын

@@xnctxo9876 oh😭

@i.m.9813

2 жыл бұрын

@@thek-nerd3143 yeah, the real number is 40 (according to a youtuber, I can give you a link if you want) BUT I had to make a point lol

@thek-nerd3143

2 жыл бұрын

@@i.m.9813 oh I know the KZreadr you’re talking about that’s why I was so confused lmao but I get the point you’re trying to make and I agree

4:23 ATEEZ always forgives you

Let's give winterosy 20k😭

istg your opinions are so well put and explained amazingly.

My literally only hot take currently: Na*ga By*eonha* got old. I used to be active in memeing it, but i admit. Its gotten pretty overused and boring sometimes. I just dont get the same spark of joy anymore really. But i still see people enjoying it. And thats fine too.

@floverclovers

2 жыл бұрын

its so funny bc the person who started it legit posted something saying 'guys im sry but i dont think its funny anymore :/'

@gabrielnalom4930

2 жыл бұрын

@@floverclovers LOL

@terraraines765

2 жыл бұрын

no

@keyoia

2 жыл бұрын

@@terraraines765 it's their opinion lol

@terraraines765

2 жыл бұрын

@@keyoia and i was not serious lol

with skz I think they just know that kpop fans don't do well with change ,watch them try a new concept and everyone will complain

I agree with your chemistry& teamwork > best talents and have been thinking about this myself the past week. as a music student when you put all the amazing top tier vocalists together they are more likely to hate each other and be absolute shit together than if you put people of varying talents and strengths together to create a balanced team. Same goes with dancing, if everyone thinks they are the best dancer than no one will listen to each other and there will be no synchronicity. Balance is so important. Often times groups from big companies that are “the best” of everything have no chemistry and I can’t even watch their stages without cringing

@aangisbestboi3984

2 жыл бұрын

can you name some groups you think dont fit?

I think they made nmixx this kind of debut to boost their popularity so that a lot of people will get interested in them because of having a bad debut and then boom they got they own fandom and already famous. I’m worried on how jyp would handle 3 girl group at the same time.

I do have an unpopular opinion (and it's okay if you don't agree with me XD) I actually think that nmixx O.O and tank are „relatively" good songs. It may be not perfect but I think it's good in its own way☺️

@rubyswindells9738

2 жыл бұрын

FINALLY, SOMEONE WHO AT LEAST SOMEWHAT AGREES WITH ME. Honestly, O.O can't be that bad, surely.

@-Desire

2 жыл бұрын

It's bad in that it's badly mixed sonically and the parts didn't have good transitions and considering what they were trying to do (which was achieve a "Next Level" and "I got a boy" mix) but I feel like some parts are really good

@obin6256

2 жыл бұрын

Every song is good in their own way, my opinion with O.O is, that song was make for a "performance song" (idk if this make sense), whenever I saw the dance practice or performance ver of O.O, I just can't take my eyes of it, BUT if I listen it in Spotify, my ears just can't handle it, it's just too much for me... So imo, the choreo is what makes O.O works for me, and the talents that the girls have obvi

@happytobehere4752

2 жыл бұрын

only nmixx made the songs good with their vocals that's why u think so

@miagarcia_

2 жыл бұрын

Disagree

As an atiny, you are forgiven. The real is such a unique song so I completely understand how your perception of ateez changed after it.

New opinion #2 was awesome, I appreciate you for that.

Yesss I agree so much with the individual talent doesn't matter if they don't make a good group and the example being stayc

Ok but like thank you for being those few kyoutubers who are not toxic. and thank you for expressing your opinions in such a mature and respectful manner. continue spitting facts ✨

3:07 The problem with this opinion is not their opinions but the fact that some of them are straight up rude. It's ok to think that someone's song is not good it that this idol is not rlly talented, but there's a difference when you say "This girl should have never debuted, her voice is awful and her dancing is trash and tasteless! The company was crazy for letting this happen." and saying "I don't think she was ready to debut at all, I don't appreciate her singing or dancing. They should leave her as a trainee for now, she just wasn't ready at all" It's not abt "sugar coating words". Its just literally abt not being rude.

SKZ music are versatile 💕😩 already tho

i think skz will definetly try more genres in the future as they did in the past before god's menu, like they explained this before how they were trying to find a sound that's them and fits them which they found nd it got them where they are know, but they still discovering new colors and concepts, i feel like they started it a bit with maniac, now that their fanbase is bigger nd all i feel like they'll be more comfortable exploring new options (i'm speaking on tt tho cuz b sides is a diff story they got so much diff songs in their bsides it's very refreshing imo)

Yess this is why you are one of my fave k-tuber's, one who isn't afraid to admit certain things in front of a big audience knowing that there will still be people who will disagree with you at the end of day and shit bricks in your comment section. Even though, I personally think opinions can't be "wrong" cause it's an opinion and not a fact, but as you said some of these are actually plain "dumb". Glad you understood and changed your perspectives on specific things, agreed with everything you mentioned in this vid. ps. YOUR EDITING'S SO MWAH 🤩

Ur vids are always so interesting

I adore anti-drops. Especially when crafted well.

I fully agree with the anti-drop one because it’s supposed to be unexpected but ever since That became a trend you can literally expect an anti-drop on a song anytime

I STRONGLY AGREE ABOUT THE FANS BEING MORE PROBLEMATIC THAN SOME IDOLS THING!!! Like dude even if they f up it’s NOT okay to literally bully them And I totally agree about the “everything sounds the same” thing too!!! Especially nowadays people ALWAYS bash 4th gen songs AS IF THE OTHER GEN’S SONGS DIDNT SOUND THE SAME OR HAVE THE SAME CONCEPT LMAO

Now, THIS should be a trend. People's opinions aren't facts. They change. It's nice to see someone accepting and admitting to it.

Lol glad u took back those opinions 🤝😌

You explained yourself in a very respect way towards others and I appreciate you done this video and taken your words back which is hard and I also agree with most of them.. I'm just still don't know what's the diffrence between the pop genre compare to other genre... I do feel like pop songs can get stuck in your head and most of them.. are very catchy but honestly, I haven't tried to listen to other genre to say that... and kpop fans will always complain about everything that exist in the world. No matter what the idols will do, it was always that way. It's becasue we all are bored with our ordinary lifes, we are hearing a lot of kpop songs so we are starting to take things for granted cause we got used to it so we complain about everything, get jealous at the idols, are actually toxic people when it comes to people we like, adore and we want to defend them and to deny things they have done to convince ourselves that they didn't do it becasue we are used and love to think the people we love are perfect.

6:52 holy shit PREACH THIS 🙌🙌🙌

I APPRECIATE THE YUKIKA BACKGROUND

This was such a cool video fr

I appreciate idols that are saying without their fans they don't exist and yet you can see the effort on learning the universal language.. i'm not saying that it's their priority but just the effort of learning the language to connect more to their fans that they say they adore...

5:15 would make me so sad, i'm absolutely in love with anti-drops

Earlyyy and i love ur intro oml😩‼️‼️

I agree with most things, just the one about the passion is not sitting with me well, I think to make it in the kpop industry you need passion and a lot of it. It's so hard on your body to be a performer. I just think that being able to perform good and have that good entertainment stage presence is a specific quality that is hard. I have much passion for dancing but whenever I perform I have a hard time showing that passion and stuff on my face.. idk just wanted to share that

5:14 Ironic that two days ago I saw a bunch of people saying they don’t like anti-drops anymore

@shanti8953

2 жыл бұрын

Oh no...

thnaks you for elaborating on the ateez opinion, and I thinnk the same for red velvet!

people hate on bp but like at the end of the day they’re still in ur area, no?

probably the first time i've seen a kpop stan actually acknowledge a mistake you're a real one

I want stray kids to stay the same. Their sound doesnt sound repetitve to me cause their THE ONLY ONES that do it and they dont comeback a ridiculous amount of times, so Im very cool with how their going

I’m so close to being a winterosy stan account

Heavily agree with the opinion on passionate idols! I feel like there are quite a few idols who don't enjoy what they do? Especially when I see idols like Chuu from Loona or Jiheon from Fromis 9, it feels like quite a stark contrast to many other idols in the industry? It could be that they just have great stage presence, but them seem to genuinely happy to be performing and seeing fans. It's not just cuz they smile a lot, because I feel like IU and Taeyeon also seem to have a sincerity that many idols lack, and they are not consistently peppy idols. I'm not sure- it's really hard to put into words what makes them different, but I have a really hard time getting into a group if it feels like a majority of the members don't really want to be there. Perhaps it's just human intuition? We have a pretty good radar for telling if someone is lying or being fake, so maybe that's why some idols have 'vibes' that are off.

I’m half in agreement and half not on the idols not liking their job thing. I do agree that sometimes it does appear that way…but also I’m reluctant to say I’m interpreting their expressions and mannerisms correctly. They could just be tired, etc - especially when you consider many kpop idols don’t actually make a lot of money, with the few exceptions of the REALLY big groups, or if they came from money & don’t need to worry about it.

For opinion 3, I think the genuineness is probably more common than you think, and the lack of spark you see in some idols can have more to do with improper treatment by the company (being overworked, no creative freedom) or just lack of training (less stage presence/not being as good at something making them not want to show it off). I'm just theorizing here obviously, but I was just thinking that because I know for most it isn't the money, they are getting paid dust unless they're really successful 😭

NMIXX is having a comeback on September 19th btw, tune in!!🥰🥰

Some idols grow tired of the career and are obligated to stay by contract or heavy pressure from the company. Then there’s the fear of disappointing fans, even if an idol no longer enjoys the job i’m sure the fans still mean a lot and neither of us can ever really know what it would be like to leave that aspect of the field behind. Money of course plays it’s role in an idol choosing to stay even if the spark they once had is gone but I don’t think it’s the sole factor, there are so many things that go on behind the scenes.

i know i'm late but congrats on ur new era!!💙

I def agree with some of your opinions and I will belittle the ones that I don't

i usually hate kpop opinion videos because i always feel like people are really dead set on them but im glad to see that you admit your evolutions

I want you to take back "LOONA Discography is getting old" or something like that. Just my opinion, There song are quite enjoyable and still not getting old. Ptt really stucked in my head from August 2021 to still now, Hula Hoop is extremely addictive, Not Friends is the song which i repeat daily, Why Not is the song which made me Stan loona. Their intros are impressive. I hope you understand since i am not that good in english

@shellen7930

2 жыл бұрын

i agree, loona's discography is one of the only ones in kpop that you can listen to it today and still love it 1 year from now

A great example of a group where not all the members are extremely talented is Twice. I personally think they have one or two really good members and the others are passable, but when you put them together, you get a group that catches your eye and that is hard to look away from. They all complement each other's energy so well that, even if some vocals or some dancing isn't the greatest, it's always entertaining to watch and I don't really care if they aren't all incredible dancers and power vocals, because their stages never miss in my opinion.

Unpopular opinions by me(RV edition): -Joy is the best rapper in RV (you can't really notice it in the MVs but you can see it in their early live stages) -Yeri is a great actress, most likely even better than joy -This isn't as unpopular but Wendy is underappreciated as a performer, imo even though Seulgi is a better dancer, she's the one with better stage presence and facial expressions

I couldn't agree with you more new follower

I thought that experimenting songs had either to hit you the first time you hear it or after some few listens but actually that's not it I realized even if I don't like it the 1st time and won't listen to it ever again it doesn't mean I won't like it but it's the complete opposite for example Nmixx O.O I rly hated it the first time like you can't even imagine tho I loved the second part but that was it I didn't enjoy at all the vocals or main chorus or the way it transits between genres and the big surprise was after some few days the song literally out of nowhere pop up in my head and I listen to it like only 2 times before when I checked it for the first time, I didn't believe that I started to like it on my own just like that and I really enjoy it now help- So basically at the end if you will like the song you will like it eventually even without multiple listens just don't force it and if you won't like it it's just will stay like that and it's okay fr

The best anti drop was done by seventeen home ✋ periodt.

Lol I love the fact that you are literally not biased in any way, and even thought a lot of your opinions I strongly disagree with, I understand the origin of all of your reasons and they are always backed with a 1-9999999 minute argument on why or why not, always proving your point, and the even better thing is that you even have the courage to take back things, since some people just don't take something back because they don't want to be embarrassed. Keep up the good work, stay a fair, balanced amount of brutal and stay impartial and keep on giving us good vids! Edit: Lol sorry I didn't even notice that the person on top said almost the same things I said, but an extra person telling you nothing you ever do is wrong couldn't hurt, right?

Tbh Celebrity was my first IU comeback and I loved it. I don't know many of her songs but I'm not a big fan of Strawberry Moon but Celebrity suited her voice so much, its my favourite IU song.

Well, there are many idols that joined the company for one reason like acting or modeling then the company pushes them to be an idol

Actually I agree to the 6:52 part. Some fans are more problematic than kpop idol. Ngl, it's gave me an headache to see some toxic fans(especially some baby ARMY and BLINKS) blaming other groups without any reason just like WTF(p.s not all but some and I love both BTS and BLACKPINK). I'm so disappointed to some fans who's immature and narrow headed get involved themselves to this situation. They give another problem to their lives.

personal opinion: 1. listening to kpop as just plain simple music is fun and honestly gets your priorities straight 2. ik we all know it but its still smth that needs to be said, your fave is as normal as you and if they weren't part of this industry they'd just be another person on the street, so treat them like that 3. no one in kpop is there for the money, idk why ppl think that... literally in companies were the idols aren't the ones creating the music (ex. sm) or the company's small the salary is gonna be really low, possibly the only thing they'll enjoy is fame but that too is for the top 5-10% of kpop (most idols aren't recognized at all)

I have to disagree with your last one. While I do believe that we shouldn't be so hard on "average" songs, because they can still be good. And I would also add that I believe companies purposely hop on trends, and simply stick with "catchy" to be smart; I think from an artistic standpoint you should always aim for the best. You should always aim for your best ability, for the best song you can create, and try your absolute best. This allows an artist to grow. It allows them to reach outside their limits and discover more creativity, inspiration, and strengths they never had previously. When it comes to Blackpink its disappointing because the company builds their comeback like it is going to be the best. They make the fans wait for literally years, building anticipation and strengthening the fans expectations, just to give them "average" music. That behavior may be smart business wise, but it's incredibly wrong artistically speaking to both the fans and the creators (Blackpink). Because as fans we know their abilities we know they can be better. Also someone's not just going to like Kpop because it has the label Kpop. "If you're looking for high quality songs all the time, then this isn't the genre for you"; If I like a music genre it's because I think the music is high quality. Back in 18 and 19 Kpop was high quality. These years are proof that they have the ability. The only reason they don't make MUSIC music, is because they want to make money. But if companies would've gone the right way about it, instead of selling themselves out, they could've done both. Not that I should have to say this bit but, this is just my opinion.

For the speech one, you can say you dislike a group or song, but you can’t go around hating on them by calling them ‘flops’ or ‘garbage’ or insulting their hard work. U can say it’s not your taste, doesn’t interest you, etc. but don’t insult them. That’s disrespect and does not apply to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech (for those who don’t know) is an article under the Universal Declaration of Human Rights 1948. However, human rights have terms and conditions so before u use this as an excuse, learn what I’m about to say. There are 30 articles under the UDHR law which applies to almost all countries. If you use one article, but violate another article (or the same article for another person), then your actions are not justified. The 30 human rights under the UDHR are listed below: Article 1: we are all equal (UN: “should act toward each other in spirit of a brotherhood”) Article 2: everyone, despite their race, gender, sexuality etc, is entitled to the rights set out in this document. (UN: “Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.”) Article 3: right to life, liberty and security Article 4: no slavery Article 5: no inhumane or degrading treatment/punishment Article 6: Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law. Article 7: All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. Article 8: Everyone has the right to an effective remedy by the competent national tribunals for acts violating the fundamental rights granted him by the constitution or by law. Article 9: No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile. Article 10: right to a fair and public trial Article 11: innocent until proven guilty Article 12: right to privacy, family and home Article 13: freedom of movement (nationally and internationally) Article 14: right to asylum seeking. Article 15: right to a nationality Article 16: right to marriage and family Article 17: right to own property Article 18: freedom of thought, conscience and religion. Article 19: freedom of opinion (commonly mistaken as freedom of speech) Article 20: freedom to peaceful assembly Article 21: the right to equal access to public service in their country Article 22: right to social security Article 23: right to choice of employment and work Article 24: right to rest and leisure Article 25: Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, Article 26: right to free education Article 27: right to cultural practices Article 28: everyone is entitled to a social and international order in which the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration can be fully realized. Article 29: Everyone has duties to the community in which alone the free and full development of his personality is possible. Article 30: no one can take away your rights Yes I know that was long, but it’s a bit of background for what I’m gonna explain. You CANNIT use your freedom of opinions/speech if your opinion/speech violates the right to no degrading treatment, no discrimination or other articles mentioned above. If your speech goes against another article, it is unlawful. Similarly, if you use your freedom of speech to tell someone they cannot speak or have an opinion (as long as that opinion is not degrading), this is also unlawful as u are taking away another’s human rights whilst using your own. Degrading treatment includes aggressive insults. Therefore, commenting harsh insults toward an artists work such as calling it “garbage” or “flops” is degrading treatment toward the idols and is not your freedom of speech. Saying “it isn’t my taste” is your freedom to opinion and does not violate any other article. Please remember the terms and conditions listed here for the UDHR before using an article as an excuse for your behaviour.

Im already done of anti-drops. Love dive was thd end for me.

@memorablename69

2 жыл бұрын

It was cool when there were few of them, but I just cant take this anymore. I want hard beat drop

i loveeee anti drops

winterosy is the only ktuber who's opinions i can stand and change when they change,toxic,i know;)

BP has like 3 main songs that use the formula but people think that's all they do bcoz of their small discography and because they're the most popular ones (their bsides and other titles are more diverse imo).. if they even had say 10 more songs no one would really be bothered by this

Something I don't like about people is that If you don't like it it isn't good in music,( and other things ) I loved celebrity when i first heard it ,cuz my vibe is more like that so let's say it wasn't your type that's all My opinion Everything that starts getting liked and supports by a good amount or half of the world it's becomes overrated for the people who don't get it or like it or who are tired of seeing people talk about it it's the truth ( most of the time cuz at times some things/ people are actually overrated)

nah bc this video should be shown to all kpop youtubers to humble them

wow your oppinion is so objective

i have a theory of idols being hurt at their ankles what if some of them do it extra so they can have a break ?

The first time I arrived early....

yes

We shouldn't blame people that work for money. At least let's remember the effort and time they put on it

If I can ask, what editing software do you use for your videos ?

I agree, you don't need to be super talented, you just need to fit the group. Just like Twice! The only exceptional one is Jihyo and maybe Nayeon but everyone work so well together.