I love using TailsOS for normal day usage, and totally legal stuff.

@GSBarlev

8 ай бұрын

It's important that a nonzero percentage of the TOR network be used for innocuous purposes (such as leaving 💩post replies to YT comments) or else legal defenses against evidence of TOR usage boil down to, "But you can't prove _which_ crime I committed."

@ibnu7942

8 ай бұрын

totally legal school projects

@ashiksaleem360

8 ай бұрын

yeah totally

@englishwithphil42

8 ай бұрын

100% legal, I swear on th' Bible.

@thahrimdon

8 ай бұрын

@@englishwithphil42I see what you did there

I never do comments, but I wanted to say we love you Jeff and your absence has certainly not gone unnoticed. You have inspired me to try so many new technologies in my first couple years as a full stack engineer, but it’s your awesome sense of humor that I miss the most. Wishing you peace and clarity in your time off.

@aslamanver

7 ай бұрын

What happened to Jeff

@guzzdoritos4708

7 ай бұрын

​@@aslamanverhis mother passed away. Check his latest tweet. RIP 😞

@LeviElekes

7 ай бұрын

+1

@787noteswiper

7 ай бұрын

I seen latest community post

@patrickconrad396

7 ай бұрын

agreed keep checking back hoping for some update. Just to know he's alright.

Some years ago Tails also had a "camouflage" mode where the theme of the desktop environment was changed to a Windows looking one to avoid raising eyebrows in public places such as libraries and schools that don't allow booting your own OS.

@godnyx117

8 ай бұрын

They don't have that now? Damn!!!

@whiskytangofoxtrot_

8 ай бұрын

@@godnyx117 kali does have this though if you still like the feature

@ardianhotii

8 ай бұрын

That's even more cool

@godnyx117

8 ай бұрын

@@whiskytangofoxtrot_ Oh, that's nice! I find it interesting for the people who need it!

@anuragneelam8527

8 ай бұрын

I got a question I was hoping someone could answer. My friend installed windows 11 software on his school computer to bypass the restrictions, but unfortunately can’t google anything because the wifi firewall stops him. Is there any way for him to acces the school network, or is he genuinely screwed?

Fun fact, while using Tails you can pull the USB from the computer and the computer will automatically start the shutdown/clear ram process, meaning you can put the drive on a lanyard and just yank if you don't have the time to click through to the shutdown button

@vickylance

8 ай бұрын

Is that regardless of the type of the original os or bios working on the machine?

@ShaferHart

8 ай бұрын

​@@vickylance it should not matter. USB drives are just a device. If it already booted from it Tails knows where it is and when it's not there.

@Redwan777

8 ай бұрын

I did that once as a test. It goes into tty mode and quickly outputs a lot of things and then just gets stuck at one point. It was long ago tho. Things might have changed

@Anonymous4045

8 ай бұрын

Yup can confirm, I usually just do that even when I do have time

@FunctionGermany

8 ай бұрын

​@@ShaferHartThe missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation.

I use Tails OS when I'm coding in Python because I do not want my reputation as a respectable software engineer tarnished.

@charlesm.2604

8 ай бұрын

Good one

@invinciblemode

8 ай бұрын

But you’re using Python lmao

@paulstubbs7678

8 ай бұрын

Is Python that bad?

@haschid

8 ай бұрын

No. It's not that bad. Bashing other languages is a circle jerk some developers like to do among themselves. I think it's the best language to learn as a first language, because it is easy to learn and you can do almost anything with it.

@invinciblemode

8 ай бұрын

@@haschid it’s not bad? It’s a great first language, but you should move on if you want to build something serious.

More informative in 2 minutes than 99% of half an hour long Tails tutorials ;)

@griffina5192

8 ай бұрын

Um actually it was 100 seconds

@kittenfrompicture

8 ай бұрын

Maybe because the tutorial has information needed to use it, not to flex with "the more you know"

@johalternate

8 ай бұрын

@@kittenfrompicture yeah, there is a clear difference between describing and teaching

@DCTekkie

8 ай бұрын

@@kittenfrompicture Well, most of the Tails tutorials spend 50% of their time on "how to download ISO and copy it to USB". I actually made a vid on Tails myself on my channel 2 days ago ;)

@TravisRayLive

8 ай бұрын

When I ran my KZread channel for teaching people how to do things in Photoshop or After Effects, there was literally no fluff, and 90% of videos were 4 minutes or shorter. No requests for comments, likes, subscribes, etc. Just the information I wanted to teach and that's it. And people absolutely loved the channel. I went from 1 sub to 100k in about 3 weeks just because of the short form videos, and I was still making good money on it. I didn't care about ads or anything. More short form content! Love it.

Man I remember using tails in college for completely wholesome, legal activities

@LuisSierra42

8 ай бұрын

Wholesome and legal activities is what this OS was created for

@faetalize

8 ай бұрын

This is not funny. Like, being a blackhat hacker is one thing, but i sure hope you're not using this shit for CP content. You're actually running it for the rest of us and giving the government more excuses to limit our privacy

@LuisSierra42

8 ай бұрын

@@faetalize You are the first person here mentioning CP

@yououttapocket

8 ай бұрын

​@@faetalizeprojection moment

@faetalize

8 ай бұрын

ok, y'all gonna act like the OP wasn't making allusion to that, keep going 👍

Sorry for your loss, Mister Fireship. Thank you for teaching smooth brains like myself how to do the programming.

@Raezard77

8 ай бұрын

what loss? i been in the dark for a few weeks btw

@flipamation9850

8 ай бұрын

​@@Raezard77look at his community post

@adibbazli

8 ай бұрын

her mom passed away@@Raezard77

@funnykids66

8 ай бұрын

He lost his Mum :(@@Raezard77

@Davida_dev

7 ай бұрын

​@@ZakareyaAlatolidamn this is so sad

I'm on the mission to get on as many three letter agency watch lists as possible by traveling the world with blank laptop and bag of Tails sticks.

@amandahugankiss4110

8 ай бұрын

You going to start with the idiots at TSA and work your way up; or try for that top-down model?

@Meteorknite

8 ай бұрын

​@@amandahugankiss4110top downs todays trend

@hinrobalas860

8 ай бұрын

"Three letter agencies" .. nice try Mental Outlaw, u can't fool us with that fake username!

@emanuelescarsella3124

8 ай бұрын

Why going through all that trouble when all you really need is some pro-communist posts and one Amazon search for "potassium nitrate"💁🏻‍♂️

@myalt3019

8 ай бұрын

Just make sure to give IRS a wide berth

Sorry for your loss Jeff, We admire you and support you in this difficult period. You are really missed in the community and we really wish you nothing but the best.

@holthuizenoemoet591

6 ай бұрын

what happend? why is he not longer posting videos

@skandertebourbi357

6 ай бұрын

@@holthuizenoemoet591 his mother passed away around 2 months ago

@ed_cmntonly

6 ай бұрын

​@@holthuizenoemoet591 latest community post, he's taking a break likely

@qwerty11111122

5 ай бұрын

@@holthuizenoemoet591 You know how he hides "hi mom" in all of his videos? She just passed

I honestly know all about tails os but your videos are high quality and I cant stop watching them

@vickylance

8 ай бұрын

But how is the activity done in tails os meant to be secure? Like accessing the internet

@smik0s97

8 ай бұрын

@@vickylanceall connections in tails are routed through tor by default

@abenhisham

8 ай бұрын

​@@vickylancethis video literally explains that lol

@pacosouviron175

8 ай бұрын

you know everything about tails? prove it

@diaahanna8882

8 ай бұрын

@@pacosouviron175 No I mean I know what tails os is and I know all the information mentioned in the video but nevertheless I watched the video to the full .

"theres no need to rip out your hard drive and flush it down the toilet" bro's definitely speaking from experience

@GSBarlev

8 ай бұрын

This is why microSD cards are OP. So much more flushable.

@sharonrollin9035

8 ай бұрын

@unitedgamingffarmy scam

@z3rocodes

8 ай бұрын

Microwaves

@SeanSMST

8 ай бұрын

​@GSBarlev Taste great too

@Dipj01

8 ай бұрын

​@@voidinitunless its digestible, they can pull it out of you

Hey Jeff, I want you to know that we stands with you, and we admire your strength and resilience. Stay strong, and take all the time you need to heal 🙏

@aslamanver

7 ай бұрын

What happened

@MrAmG17

7 ай бұрын

@@aslamanver His mom passed away

Now i understand the lack of videos. Stay strong Jeff, and take as much time as you need

@platinumsun4632

8 ай бұрын

What happened?

@_scored

8 ай бұрын

@@platinumsun4632 his mother recently passed away, check his latest community post

@uchihablazon2721

8 ай бұрын

​@@platinumsun4632His mom passed away.

@simonbolivartercero7653

8 ай бұрын

​​@@platinumsun4632Fireship's mother passed away

@Benferdinands

8 ай бұрын

He lost his mother😞

Massive respect for you for also reminding us of Gary Webb and how governments can be worse than all cartels combined

@UNcommonSenseAUS

8 ай бұрын

Not governments, the Clinton's & their owners..

@kaotictube

8 ай бұрын

Cartel = form of government... where if you get in their way your naked mutilated body is hanged in public as warning....

@crazy_wwww

8 ай бұрын

Governments are the cartels/mafia of the present

@arsnakehert

8 ай бұрын

One thing that really sets governments and cartels apart is that probably most of a cartel's revenue is made by arguably voluntary transactions; can't even give the benefit of the doubt to governments in that regard

@UNcommonSenseAUS

8 ай бұрын

@@arsnakehert govern = to control Mental = the mind Government = mind control

Stay strong brother. We are with you.

Cool, now I can do my totally legit and mundane things! Thanks Fireship!

@blueboy3990

8 ай бұрын

I am gonna have fun at school 😅

So hyped for sonic os

@fullstackweebdev4855

8 ай бұрын

Personally I’m waiting for Knuckles OS so I can dock it with Sonic OS and get extra OS from both

@fluffsquirrel

8 ай бұрын

Oh great, now I have to expect fanfictionOS to emerge soon.

@pyp2205

8 ай бұрын

I'm still waiting for Robotic OS. 😐

@GSBarlev

8 ай бұрын

I hear it ships with ffmpreg encoding

@Mgames_xd

8 ай бұрын

​@@fullstackweebdev4855wdym? I'm running a Ugandan fork of KnucklesOS

Sorry for your loss jeff sir May her soul rest in peace 🥺 Stay strong sir 😢

Please stay strong ❤️🙏💪 Sorry for your loss 💔🙏🕊️

Sorry for your loss Jeff. Stay strong

@tweetyguy7347

Ай бұрын

What happened

@arytiwa4351

Ай бұрын

@@tweetyguy7347 his lovely mother passed away that time !

Tails saved my ass when my HDD failed to boot, but when booting from tails I could make a backup to another drive because he could access all my windows partitions as well also there is a lot of cool tools on tails that are fun to play with 11/10

@geeshta

8 ай бұрын

I carry a USB stick with GParted for reasons like these

@aurele2989

8 ай бұрын

wouldn't that just be any functional live boot stick?

@B20C0

8 ай бұрын

That's basically what Knoppix was made for...

@thomas.thomas

5 ай бұрын

wasn't knoppix made for optical drives? @@B20C0

@geryz7549

Ай бұрын

@@SOLDAT_MENDES AI generated ahh answer

Please do a "in 100 seconds" about Robotics Operating System ROS2. I think this is something really interesting that has been growing in popularity last years. Btw, your video's are awesome!

@jacobusburger

8 ай бұрын

Yes! ROS2 is incredible and deserves more attention!

Stay strong jeff❤ Saw your post about mom Sorry for your loss.

Hope you're doing well man. You're going through a lot. You're a positive force, I hope I see you in the next one soon.

Legit miss you bro, I know you are dealing with alot, but I do love these videos. Can't wait for your next upload, I'll be here waiting sir

Using TailsOS is like wearing sunglasses. It just makes you cool.

@vickylance

8 ай бұрын

Lol yeah well said.

@amandahugankiss4110

8 ай бұрын

Even worked for Homestar!

@hinrobalas860

8 ай бұрын

I totally agree .. thank you Mr FBI agent

@ArthurKhazbs

8 ай бұрын

Sorry, not everyone's PC is capable of running a full-fledged Qubes OS set up

@warguy6474

8 ай бұрын

check bros hard drive

Hey man, you’re one of the most down to earth person I have ever met! 😊 I mean it. ❤ I know it’s a tough time for you, I lost my mom in 11 years ago and that’s why I moved to the UK! 🇬🇧 Come back soon, we all love you and your videos! ❤

Tails is also useful for generating pgp keys for a temporarily airgapped laptop and just for having access to free as in freedom utilities for when you're out in the field without any of your other tech.

Hey Jeff, just swinging by your channel after the recent OpenAI announcement. It’s been a hot topic and reminded me how much I’ve been missing your Code Reports. Your insights always add a unique flavor to the tech buzz! Noticed you’ve been MIA for a bit - the comment section is filled with echoes of support and I’m adding my voice to the chorus. Hope all is well with you. Looking forward to your next video when you’re ready to dive back in!

I remember my CS freshman year where everyone was trying this kind of OS to do crazy and illegal things like browsing 4chan

Learning something new everytime. Best channel, thank you!

2:12 don't forget, after installing on usb you need to install from that one to a second usb to get the goods from tails like security upgrades or encryption storage (for the persistant storage)

I hope that you and your family are safe and in good health, take your time brother. we'll be waiting for you.

I feel you I really sorry

I'm so so sorry for your loss, Jeff. Hi Mom ♥

Thinking of you man ❤

Tor and i2p are very interesting overlay network solutions that deserve some more digging into. :) Thanks for covering TailsOS, it's super neat!

@hoovysimulator2518

8 ай бұрын

I wanna see a video on it too! Especially since Tor isn't always the better option. Wikipedia covers some reasons why, such as heartbleed that was found few years back.

@myalt3019

8 ай бұрын

LETS FUCKING GO SOMEBODY MENTIONED INVISIBLE INTERNET PROJECT (I2P) I2P IS THE BEST DARKNET EVER I GET A MASSIVE HARD ON PIRATING THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF ADOBE SOFTWARE AND GARLIC ROUTING IS FAP MATERIAL

I'm so sorry to hear about what happened. We love you man, stay stron 🙏

Never really comment on videos but I’m sorry for your loss, please take the time you need man and do what’s best for you and your family. We will be looking forward to your return whenever you decide to

I never comment on videos, I really like your content and I miss you a lot. But I understand that you need some time in order to get yourself. Keep strong man.

just saw your comunity post, i hope you're good.

@nishant5655

8 ай бұрын

😢

Great video. Quick and to the point. Very well done.

Ok, just made myself a Tails-Stick. Now the only thing I need is a illegal activity.

Hey fireship, hope youre doing well!

Sorry for your loss ✨🙏🏻

Damnnn... Thanks man... I was looking for something like this and you made it a whole lot easier...

I've just binged your stuff and as someone who learned some C in Uni and became a hobbyist programmer, and eventually technically a corporate programmer, but more Shadow IT (which is a really fun programming field in Manufacturing Automation), your videos are fantastic. Really informative for the beginners while being realistic about the work needed to put in and properly sarcastic like someone who has also had to deal with learning a new server/web/mobile/etc, language/framework/major update every 2 bloody days.

@perseussmith3274

8 ай бұрын

Man wrote his entire family tree just to say Fireship rocks.

@Anonymous-tm7jp

8 ай бұрын

This looks like someone's bragging on Linkedin

@thomas.thomas

5 ай бұрын

dude, just let him cook @@Anonymous-tm7jp

@whatwhat887

Ай бұрын

@@perseussmith3274thats an educated nga u could tell

I'm not here for the informations, I'm here for your sound

@ashiksaleem360

8 ай бұрын

and memes

@ShaferHart

8 ай бұрын

Unfortunately not enough of you to make his last startup a unicorn

@publicalias8172

2 ай бұрын

@@ShaferHart what was his last startup?

Hey Jeff just wanted to let you know I miss your content and your awesome humor. You are a big part of the tech field and community and never cease to make it dull and boring! Wishing you all the best and hope to see you again, take care of yourself.

Hey Man! Hope you're doing alright. You inspire us and we appreciate you!

I love that tails added support for booting with uefi secure boot enabled, since explaining how to run it is now much simpler.

@ra2enjoyer708

8 ай бұрын

Isn't uefi a spyware?

@CooperF

8 ай бұрын

@@ra2enjoyer708Are you ok?

@rya1701

8 ай бұрын

​@@ra2enjoyer708no UEFI is just the real name of what people call a BIOS

@parkman29

8 ай бұрын

@@ra2enjoyer708 No but because it has more features, it is possible to do more with it. One of the big ones is Called Intel ME. Basically there is a tiny os living inside of an intel CPU that has the ultimate power to do anything to your comuter, which definitely could be used by the NSA. I even used ME myself so I could flash a driver to my UEFI system so my computer could boot from a PCIe NVME card.

Praying for you and your family Jeff. We'll be here when you are ready take whatever time you need.

Nice thing about Tails is that the FBI knows it's the secure OS of choice, and thus the OS they track and try exploit the most. They've caught some pretty serious criminals using exploits in Tails... which the Tails community then patches out the moment they notice. Vicious cycle.

@matheusgoulart1618

8 ай бұрын

So basically, FBI is contributing to the project?

@gamingbud926

8 ай бұрын

@@matheusgoulart1618 Unwitting pen testers

@yamitsushi

8 ай бұрын

​@@matheusgoulart1618 I remember reading somewhere that the FBI makes the tor network (which is the core of tails) for some kind of high security use of the internet If that is true, FBI is not only a contributor to the project, the FBI itself is the reason why tails existed

@NotGarbageLoops

8 ай бұрын

@@matheusgoulart1618 Indeed! Ain't it glorious

@chirantannath6593

8 ай бұрын

"Used the stones to destroy the stones"

Love this series! Have you considered doing one on LaTeX?

Exactly what I needed for my needless hacker LARP, thank you!

Congratulations everybody, after watching this , we've all made it to the 3 letters agency's "List"

@jayshartzer844

8 ай бұрын

Always have been 🧑‍🚀🔫🧑‍🚀

@sahil1307

8 ай бұрын

When you realizes all the privacy focused things are just to sort us from rest of people😬.

@CyanRooper

8 ай бұрын

"Sir, should we be concerned that they're using stuff like this to remain anonymous?" "They go through all this trouble to remain aNOnYmOuS just to look cool or to look at some Sonic furry porn. There's nothing to worry about (for now)."

@QWERTY-gp8fd

8 ай бұрын

u draw line at furry? my man i use it for cp. so far its good@@CyanRooper

@meme-vw1vi

8 ай бұрын

the based list? i’ve been on there for years

I had no idea Shift + Restart was even a thing.

@philadams9254

8 ай бұрын

Yes, and shift+shutdown is the way to *actually* shut down your computer. Just clicking it gives you the crappy 'hybrid sleep' mode

@ADeeSHUPA

8 ай бұрын

​@@philadams9254 ないす نَيس

I'm so happy to see this in your channel, I've been using Tails for 2 years now

@Djellowman

8 ай бұрын

This one right here, officer.

@vickylance

8 ай бұрын

How is it useful in a daily driver?

first youtube video i see that asks to not share the video with friends, kudos! and awesome job as always

If anyone else is wondering where Jeff has been, he made a tweet recently about how his mother recently passed away. Hope he's doing okay with the rest of his family. Say hi to your moms before it's too late.

I miss Jeff more than I miss Sam Altman

Hi. I hope you're all well physically and mentally. I still watch your previous videos when they appear on my feed. It's just that the way you create video is so rare on KZread, at least for the tech stack. It's okay to take a break. Wish you good luck and prosperity.

Commenting just to feed the YT algorithm. During a difficult time, my mother once told me that *"the measure of your love is the depth of your pain."* Come back whenever you're ready. We will be here for you when you do.

Hey Jeff, We miss you a lot. Hope you're doing better!

Good on Fireship for not discussing the networking side of privacy so that real criminals get caught.

Wow, what a great side-step from all that javascript and chatbot nonsense. Great explanation of the OS

Fireship's absence has left the tech world less vibrant. While other channels have attempted to replicate your unique style, they haven't quite hit the mark. Your return would be greatly welcomed. Please consider coming back.

Jeff's wife: Jeff, why do you have TailsOS? Jeff: oh, it's just for a video (the only possible explanation why this video was made)

@monishsudhagar

8 ай бұрын

😂😂

Stay Strong King, U Have Done Your Best For Her

Great video on a great tool, I was thinking about creating a tailsos bootable usb just today, what are the chances?

Sorry to hear about your Mom, Jeff. I lost mine a few years ago too, it completely turned my world upside down. My only advice is to give yourself enough time (this could be several months or even longer) to fully process it and feel those uncomfortable emotions, don’t suppress them with distractions or substances because they will bubble up in other ways… Kinda like JS events.

your videos remind me that my major can be fun sometimes........... hang in there man im sorrry

20years of development more needed, to finally meet templeos security standards

May lord give you patience buddy! Love your videos

Damn. That tidbit about Gary Webb. I had no idea about him. Thank you for reminding us all!

yes i use it all the time for online experiment its a very useful tool ,very recommended

Stay strong soldier ❤

We miss you a lot ❤, daily checking your channels in case I missed your notification.

one of my fav videos from Fireship

"Hello Mom!" will hit different next time 😭

Man, I love this OS, I used this back in primary school to get past the firewall just to watch KZread 😂 used it more than windows

Sorry for your loss even though I have no knowledge of software engineering i really like your videos and wait for them. Please make time for yourself you need it.

Hope you're doing better, Jeff. We all care about you 🙏

@viktorkadza

7 ай бұрын

Whats happened?

@GamingWithShauryaYT

6 ай бұрын

his mom is no longer here 😞@@viktorkadza

We miss you! Hope everything is fine!

The content of your channel is great😍

Nice video man!!

Ah Tor, the speed of dial up where half of the relay nodes are FBI owned :)

@XDarkGreyX

8 ай бұрын

That's what the whole sharing their tech with us is all about, isn't it

@parkman29

8 ай бұрын

There is an alternative called I2P

@publicalias8172

2 ай бұрын

​@@parkman29 The internet wasn't build for it, same flaw applies.

Where r u man ? Why no new videos ? I hope everything is alright.❤

@hora2100

7 ай бұрын

His mom died

Nice! Now we need a video about the newest JS Framework: NueJS!

Yo fireship can i just ask this one question this is my first comment here, dude how many computer langauges do you know bro sometimes the fact that you know so much in detail overwhelms me instead of inspire me😂💔

sure do i love doing basic mundane and totally legit stuff using TailOS operating system

I miss the code reports

I hope you are doing well. I heard that Angular 17 has been released. Looking forward for your video on it. ❤

Your content is solid

If anyone else is wondering where Jeff has been, he made a tweet recently about how his mother recently passed away. 😢❤

@Xinthose

8 ай бұрын

Yes, I was. Thank you for the information.

@RapLyricalVideos

7 ай бұрын

@@Xinthose Welcome man, no problem ❤

Cold boot attacks, where the memory is frozen and then extracted are actually very uncommon for "normal" PCs, as the memory is getting worse basically every second after shutdown. It is more commonly used for server systems, where encryption keys need to be extracted from running systems, but the systems need to be transported for example.

@U20E0

8 ай бұрын

RAM decays quite slowly

@felixjohnson3874

8 ай бұрын

Even upto DDR 3 can have 90% bit retention after 10 minutes without artificial cooling, (ddr4 has not been tested as far as I'm aware) and cold boot attacks literally don't work against running devices; the entire point is that you turn the device off, that is literally required by the very definition of being a cold boot attack. (Also cold boot has nothing to do with the temperature of the RAM; cooling it is common, but that is entirely incidental and not related to the name) Edit : (for reference DDR1-2 can last for hours or even weeks if cooled) properly)

@gro967

8 ай бұрын

@@U20E0 compared to what? In reality, this technique is basically never used on consumer hardware, because it's very hard to pull off and there is very small chance to succeed.

@gro967

8 ай бұрын

​@@felixjohnson3874 this may be the case under lab conditions, but in reality, the chance for success is very low in a standard consumer Notebook or PC. What I meant with running servers is that they often visit datacenters connect directly to the servers, take away power and take the cooled memory to a lab. This would also qualify as a cold boot attack.

@SOLDAT_MENDES

8 ай бұрын

true, cold boot attacks are less common for regular PCs due to the degradation of memory over time. However, they can be more relevant for server systems or situations where encryption keys need to be extracted from running systems. It's always important to consider security measures based on the specific context and requirements.

Sorry for your loss, we miss you man

we wish you the best

I usually just microwave my ssd when I don't want my private alien photos collection to leak

@charlesm.2604

8 ай бұрын

Did they model willingly ? 🤔