Yeah, I’m with the guys that would pull over and let the faster sport bikes go. I’d rather enjoy the ride at my own pace.

@DrTranofEvil

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I’m planning a trip out there in the near future and I’m not planning on rushing. Hell, I would have pulled off and taken some pictures at the vista… You wanna ‘conquer the mountain’ more power to ya. I probably woulda been right there with you like a decade ago. These days, I came, I saw, I bought a T-shirt, I went home and I ate some decent food on the way. Life is good. 👍

@Jack-xy2pz

Жыл бұрын

@@DrTranofEvil you have aged nicely sir imo

There are a fair number of Harley riders that bought their first bike later in life and aren't as experienced as their age might suggest.

@youcanthide004

3 ай бұрын

100%

@Gurn_Blanston

Ай бұрын

There is ZERO corellation between "experience" and skill. I have encountered a number of Harley-Davidson operators who claim to have been "riding" for 50 years, who don't actually know how to ride at all. Once they figured out how to get it rolling without stalling the engine, they just stopped learning. What they mistake for an advancing skill set, is in reality just them becoming more and more comfortable over time, with not knowing how to ride.

at 65 years of age just bought our first Harley, a 2019 Softail Heritage because I just wanted one, after almost 50 yrs of riding. Yes it is not the nimblest best handling machine I have owned and yes I will gladly slow down to let faster riders around me. Lets ride at our own pace and respect each other. Stay safe.

@smilingbiter

2 жыл бұрын

I'm like you except I've always ridden HD except once when I was 17 and friend's minibikes and dirtbikes when I was 14 and15. I fell in love with the 2018 Deluxe with all its chrome and bought it for my 66 BD. I don't like to ride much over the speed limit as I realize my potential shortcomings due to age. Whenever I see faster-riding motorcycles and even automobiles, I immediately pull over at the first safe opportunity.

@petegregory517

2 жыл бұрын

5 years ago at 65 I was stopped at a red light and after 50+ years of riding I told the wife, “I’m done, time to get off”. Rode to the bike shop where I bought it and sold it back to the dealer, walked home. Picked up my gear at the shop the next day and took it to a thrift store. Don’t miss it one bit. My son asked me if I wanted to take his new bike out, said….nope couldn’t pay me to ride it.

@jimbookholt8400

2 жыл бұрын

@@petegregory517 Hey Barry, Most of the guys I ride with are younger.....I just tell them to take it easy on the old man!!! I respect your decision but I still enjoy riding and I'm just not ready to quit. Here in WV we have great roads and little traffic. When the time comes to hang it up I will have no regrets.

Theres nothing wrong putting around, but some people have no consideration for others. Let faster riders pass and continue enjoying the ride.

@punishedsnake6141

2 жыл бұрын

Fuck off. Passing on a double line is illegal and dangerous. Person in front doesnt have to do a goddamn thing but keep driving. Prove me wrong, bitch. Im waiting.

@jamesadams2334

Жыл бұрын

Follow the speed limit! Stop complaining about slower riders when you are the one breaking the law.

@UnburdenedByWhatHasBeen

Жыл бұрын

@jamesadams2334 That's the same logic as someone who moves to a shitty neighborhood and then complains about their neighbors selling drugs and stealing their car stereo. If you aren't up for a brisk ride, stay off the dragon. 90% of the riders there are riding over the speed limit. You can ride like grandma on any public back road.

@1pasota

Жыл бұрын

Most of Harley riders only know how to ride in highways, the Dragon’s tail is not made for them, big heavy bike with low clearance, they just keep slamming on the brakes as soon as they engage a tight curve, and some have to much attitude because the have an expensive machine between their legs

He is an ass, yes. And I know the dragon well. I also know that it sucks to be expected to interrupt your ride constantly to pull over for jackasses that think they’re on a race track, doing twice or more the posted speed limit. We are going to lose this great ride one day. Too many deaths and injuries. Or they will need to destroy it for ten years to straighten it for the semis. Everyone needs to slow down and enjoy. It is not a closed circuit for professional riders.

@omarsalgado9715

2 жыл бұрын

Well said, sir. It is needed that for once and for all that these supposedly fast riders stop thinking they are in a racetrack and that everyone else that is going under their pace needs to pull over to one side to let them pass. If they feel the need to go "fast", they can go to a trackday and stop being morons on public roads.

@rausemause3109

11 ай бұрын

Harley rider is watching the road and this nutcracker is on his ass giving him two things to worry about the road and the fool behind him either pass his ass up and get it over with or back down and stop tailgating.

As a HD rider when riding the Dragon I slide to the side or even pull over if there are faster bikes stacking up behind me. No need to hold up everyone when riding a lead sled like a bagger.

@JamesScottSi

3 жыл бұрын

Me too - back when I road an Ultra Classic, Gold Wing or this bike - I just slide right and enjoy the bikes going by. It's not a big deal. Cheers and have a great holiday weekend.

@expatbiker6598

2 жыл бұрын

There's no need to pull over. If someone can't overtake you without endangering themselves. Then it's on them what they want to do.

@patricksmith6776

2 жыл бұрын

@@expatbiker6598 Some places it's the law. Where I live even if you're going the speed limit, as soon as the fifth car stacks up behind you on a divided highway you're required by law to use the first turn out you safely can, or move to the right lane if a passing lane becomes available. Whichever comes first.

@djtomtrain2015

2 жыл бұрын

My expirence. Only hd riders are pricks.

@patricksmith6776

2 жыл бұрын

@@djtomtrain2015 Really? Where I'm from the biggest assholes are on crotch rockets, although some of our worst riders here are on brand new HD's. There's a few big clubs here though so perhaps here people are trying to stay off radar. Only been messed with by groups of sports bikes here though.

I see a rider riding at his comfortable pace. Then I see an illegal pass.

@rausemause3109

11 ай бұрын

Harley rider is watching the road and this nutcracker is on his ass giving him two things to worry about the road and the fool behind him either pass his ass up and get it over with or back down and stop tailgating.

8 out of 10 harley riders have that type of attitude.

@halbennett4491

3 жыл бұрын

Nonsense. Most Harley I know are polite and accommodating when it comes to faster traffic. Don't judge them by a few bad apples, because we don't judge you by a few idiot crotch rocket riders, or some dual sport douches doing annoying things. With that said, the jerk in the video is just that, and I don't blame the OP from blowing by him when he finally did.

@lay1back

3 жыл бұрын

@@halbennett4491 , I’ve been riding on the street since 1975. The vast majority of hd riders are posers. They put on their biker ensemble, their dew rag, and ride no farther than their local biker bar, and pose. I’ve met a few old timers who are good folks, but they are few.

@grayson1946

3 жыл бұрын

@@lay1back so what’s wrong with posing! 🤣🤣🤣 don’t tell me you’ve never posed or showed off! Come on now, admit it! 😂

@mumbler5644

3 жыл бұрын

@@grayson1946 Ole Peter watched Wild Hogs to many times. LOL to bad he missed the ending

@grayson1946

3 жыл бұрын

@@mumbler5644 😂😂😂 99% of motorcycle riders pose at least sometimes, me included! I love to pretend I’m a bad ass, even though I’m a weenie! 😂

Based on how bad the Harley rider's skills are I bet he waves the single finger salute a lot! I admire your patience, I would have passed him much sooner.

@BenDover-vm7ku

2 жыл бұрын

Double yellow lines = NO PASSING ZONE.. looks like from start to finish .. Drive like hell you will get there...

@DTO..

2 жыл бұрын

you said be nice, and yet you were rude.. you showed no cycle etiquette.. *that harley was going at the posted speeds as you approached, and you only displayed your inexperience and rudeness by crowding another rider, then you buzzed pass him," with no regard, you didn't even tap your horn to signal your presence nor your intent either, and that's why that harley rider got pissed off at you.. *any real experienced motorcyclist would have known how to do this properly..

@motarded4214

2 жыл бұрын

@@DTO.. 🤣🤣🤣

@DTO..

2 жыл бұрын

@@BenDover-vm7ku : when you operate in that manner maybe you'll never arrive period..

@Cosmic.Origin.exe.

2 жыл бұрын

​@@DTO.. What are you on about? He waited quite some time to pass. If the other rider didn't know he was there, then he was not paying attention. Don't be so pretentious.

I think the Harley rider was more upset with himself. Had he let you pass earlier everyone wins (both enjoy the rest of their rides). His mind was set to ignore you but that clearly didn't work for him. If traffic bothers you, you may want to try times that aren't as busy like early in the morning on weekdays. Remember the Dragon is a public road and a lot more dangerous than most realize. People can stop in blind curves, or even be walking on the road to pick up something they dropped. If you were to crash you may not be found for hours/days. Always a good ride when you and your bike return in good shape.

@JamesScottSi

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Doug - good points - wishing you a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Cheers.

@mumbler5644

3 жыл бұрын

A man of reason. I go there with newer riders often the first thing I tell them is ride your own ride and don't be intimidated by others. I also explain there are pull offs but if you can not stop on them safely just pass it by. most have gravel on them. Never had anyone wreck that ride with me. I never intimidate a slower rider by running up on them. rather see them safe on the other side.

@robertbrown8323

2 жыл бұрын

I think riders who try to show off on this road endanger all around them. May the Dragon take all the show offs down. Chrome rims are available for wheel chairs. Dumb a--es.

@steveoconnor7069

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I always flip other people off when I am upset with myself. 😀

@theamishhitman71

2 жыл бұрын

@@steveoconnor7069 right this guys a clown lol dude literally just had to move to the right and wave him by like a normal logical person. fml lil dik energy.

It couldn’t be simpler: if a faster bike (or car) approaches from behind, look for the next pullout. When you see it, throw your turn signal on. The overtaking rider will pass in a couple seconds as you reduce speed slightly and swing ever so briefly into the pullout. If there are multiple faster riders, slow a little more as you acknowledge their appreciative “Thanks, Bro!” waves. Slide back out and proceed at your desired pace, content in your knowledge that you just maximized EVERYBODY’S enjoyment.

@opswest2825

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, well said 👍

@Mrhootie333

2 жыл бұрын

Sigh...if only....

@bigrod4599

2 жыл бұрын

Ride up on an Angel and see what happens

@DaemonWulf7

2 жыл бұрын

and to *expect* or *demand* that is still pretentious dumbassery

@BrandonWest87

Жыл бұрын

@@bigrod4599 He’ll get passed like a blur too.

It’s hard to pull to one side when you don’t really no how to ride!

@mumbler5644

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly I agree I come up on someone like the I give them space.

@davethrasher4124

2 жыл бұрын

So like half of old rich dudes on CVOs

@johngibson1439

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. You noticed that? He sucks...

@rdlykryk4384

2 жыл бұрын

A fat person such as most of them are should use their weight to throw that machine. obviously not a seasoned rider.

@justsomedude445

2 жыл бұрын

@@davethrasher4124 only half ?

Your mistake was waiting so long to pass him. You being behind him, created anxiety for him that he didn't deal with, very well. Pass early, wave as you go by, and be done with it.

@JamesScottSi

4 жыл бұрын

I'm not a fan of crossing the double yellow with a short line of sight. He wasn't that anxious, otherwise, he'd have pulled over. I think he was more upset he's slow. But it all worked out. Cheers.

@MrJeffinLodi

4 жыл бұрын

@@JamesScottSi I hear you. I would not do anything reckless or un-safe, either; gotta pick and choose wisely.

@TheYeet

3 жыл бұрын

This...

@johnowen5708

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly.....don't ride on his ass for 6 miles.....you're lucky all he did did was flip you off

@thatmanstumototours2270

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnowen5708 Horseshit. Dude was more than respectful to a full on asshat. If you don't want people running up your ass, just move 4 feet to the right and they will quickly no longer be up your ass and you can continue at your own pace...Which is actually what most riders do . That's what makes dipshits like this guy so annoying because it is so pointless and completely unnecessary.

I've followed groups of harleys rider through there time after time. When they come behind a car moving slower than them the ride up his ass and rev their engines and make gestures when he finally moves. All the while I'm right behind them waiting to get by and they won't move over in the lane or use a pull off and they will hammer down as hard as possible on the few short straights. So apparently they go the perfect speed. If u are slower u are a jerk that needs to pull over but if u want to go faster u are an asshole on a crotch rocket who is going to fast. Mind u it's not all of them. Many are cool and polite and will move when the opportunity arrives. But plenty of them feel entitled so other people need to get out of their way but the don't need to move for anyone.

@englishsteel-nz6im

Жыл бұрын

I own an HD in addition to several sport bikes but most HD riders are idiots lol-- they're good bikes for comfortably soaking up miles in style and with a great exhaust soundtrack(but thats literally it) but why anyone would take them on a super twisty road is making my point. Cruisers are truly horrible at cornering worse than probably most crossover SUVs no joke. But want a cool looking motorized couch you can ride 1000 miles without being worn out that'll get lots of compliments and make a cool sound? They succeed at that!

Harley riders have a lot to be angry about. For starters they got hood winked into buying a slow, heavy dinosaur of a bike that is good for straight road cruising and pulling tree stumps out on uncle Jeds farm.! 😎👍

@BrandonWest87

Жыл бұрын

Until they shear the teeth off their transmission gears or pinion

@bobbamford5207

2 ай бұрын

You own one you should know.

I think all of you has forgotten the speed limit is 35 on the dragon which is slow enough for any motorcycle to negotiate and by law he does not have to pull over to let you speed

@rausemause3109

11 ай бұрын

Harley rider is watching the road and this nutcracker is on his ass giving him two things to worry about the road and the fool behind him either pass his ass up and get it over with or back down and stop tailgating.

That stretch of road is now a tourist attraction, like DisneyWorld, and an expectation to go fast is unreasonable. Better to find another road, there's no lack of them. But if you're a tourist in a crowded place act accordingly.

@JamesScottSi

2 жыл бұрын

true and good councel

@rausemause3109

11 ай бұрын

@@JamesScottSi Harley rider is watching the road and this nutcracker is on his ass giving him two things to worry about the road and the fool behind him either pass his ass up and get it over with or back down and stop tailgating.

I've been in this area and saw a cruiser bike going fast enough that I didn't feel like passing. I saw sparks from his footpegs at the apex of every curve, and watching him ride was more fun than passing him would have been. :) It was a breath of fresh air after being stuck behind a slow-ass Harley for 15 minutes.

@seriousandy6656

2 жыл бұрын

THe guys who do that on a bagger really know what they're doing. I scrape the floorboards alot, but I don't do it on purpose

@benzee1

2 жыл бұрын

I'm a floorboard scraper too. My left is getting like razor thin

@DTO..

2 жыл бұрын

: was the so called slow ass harley, slow or were you braking the posted speed limit attempting to show off like some small ass barking dog.. that sounds like the equivalent..

@johnm2871

Жыл бұрын

If you were a good rider then you wouldn't have been stuck behind him, get some lessons and learn overtaking manoeuvres

Absent a law stating otherwise, the Harley rider had no obligation to pull over for faster traffic. Sure it is frustrating, but the rider ahead may be riding at his maximum comfort level of speed for whatever reason. The faster rider had two choices to deal with the situation that would not have involved crowding the other rider in his own lane and possibly causing him to crash: either ignore the twin yellow lines and take upon yourself the risk of moving into the oncoming lane to go around him, or take one of the turnouts that you find so inviting and wait for him to leave the area at his own pace.

@ushoys

2 жыл бұрын

Sure but the law also states that the speed limit on that whole section of road is only 30mph, so Mr Harley was breaking the law too.

@Deved89

2 жыл бұрын

@@ushoys speed limis are so low so even the stupidest people can handle it

@mikehammer2075

2 жыл бұрын

@@ushoys that's the dumbest reply I ever heard.....

@shelleyking8450

2 жыл бұрын

Of COURSE he had no LEGAL obligation to let someone through, but that's not the point, is it? Being legal (and a major douche) or being right (and a moral member of the human race) are often not the same thing. MOST bikers have ethics, and would realize the RIGHT thing to do is to let a quicker rider through, then both can enjoy the ride at their own pace.

@rausemause3109

11 ай бұрын

Harley rider is watching the road and this nutcracker is on his ass giving him two things to worry about the road and the fool behind him either pass his ass up and get it over with or back down and stop tailgating.

I learned very quickly to pull over to the side first time riding the Dragon in 2017 on my FJR. It was a natural thing to do. Didn’t want to mess up anyone else’s run, but more importantly, I didn’t wanna try to ride beyond my skill set. Maybe he just didn’t know proper twisty etiquette. Great vid, ride safe!

@paulhatch7759

2 жыл бұрын

I sold my fjr ☹️

@SuperChuckRaney

2 жыл бұрын

I just sold my 08 FJR to a good buddy. I'll drag the bags, dont be skittish. Lean her down.

@jamesadams2334

2 жыл бұрын

Proper etiquette is to follow the speed limit and not harass others. I've owned sport bikes most of my life and never harassed other riders like this. You want to go faster then get on a track not the highway.

@mikeb8342

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesadams2334 oh, I'm sure you NEVER exceed the speed limit anywhere.... with any vehicle, right? 🤨 And when someone is driving/riding slower than you for an unreasonable amount of time (maybe well under the speed limit) you NEVER start to crowd them a bit to get their attention and/or to "nudge" them to allow you by. I (and probably everyone else) would find that extremely hard to believe. Now stop being a Poindexter.

@BaldKiwi117

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesadams2334 harass? Just let a person pass and this thing would have been over in 5 seconds. It's not your job to enforce speed limits

He thought you were sharing his epic ride with him. If a Harley rider had to pull o er for every sport bike that wanted to pass they'd never get anywhere. If you're on a sport bike, get sporty, pass safely.

@rondj1965

2 жыл бұрын

He's a space man.

@mikeskidmore6754

2 жыл бұрын

It's all Solid Double Yellow .. but pass them anyway right ? Just don't hit an oncoming Corvette or Ferrari head on ..

@joeshmoe7967

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikeskidmore6754 The double yellow means nothing to me, the only thing that matters is if I can see and have room to pass. I have ridden roads where yo could see for miles, and still had double yellow. I pass when safe to do so, never on a blind corner or hill top, but the paint on the road does not influence.

@jaynesc29

2 жыл бұрын

Solid yellow lines my man… plus the GS is a sport touring

@jaynesc29

2 жыл бұрын

Or is the GS an adventure bike?

In places around the world it is common to let faster riders through. A little thought goes a long way for safer riding.

@JamesScottSi

4 жыл бұрын

Hi J E ... well stated. Wishing you the best. Cheers.

@je7887

4 жыл бұрын

@@JamesScottSi last week I was following 2 riders, a man and I presume his wife/GF, on baggers for what seemed an eternity. They could see me in their mirrors as they were looking. Waited for a safe clear stretch of road to pass, so as I started to pass they both moved to the middle of the road. I cannot understand why they would want to do that other than they didn't like being passed by my Buy My Wallet bike.

@omarsalgado9715

2 жыл бұрын

Or he could just over take at the first opportunity and stop being a show off. Does that guy thinks he's fast? Pfff...

I understand both sides of the argument. This same thing happened to me recently on TOD and I considered posting a video, but chose not to. They legally do not have to let you pass BUT it is a commonly held courtesy to wave a faster rider around when it's safe to do so, or to pull over. In my recent experience I thought he was a prick and he surely felt the same about me- two competing egos. The HD guy in front of me was pushing hard to keep from being passed (ego) and began clearly riding outside of his comfort zone (with a passenger). Watching my footage I concluded that I should have just pulled over (nope, ego) and let him get down the road before he and his girlfriend got hurt. Had he crashed I would not be legally at fault, but morally, yes. Next time I will pull over if a slower rider doesn't feel the need to be courteous- that's their right. TOD is an overrated scene for people to go for bragging rights, t-shirts, and bumper stickers. There are so many better sections of blacktop in the region with fewer riders and police patrols. The real problem with the Dragon is not slower riders who refuse to yield, it is riders pushing past their comfort zone who are unable to stay in their lane (cruisers and sport bikes). Forget ego games. Encountering that will kill you.

@JamesScottSi

Жыл бұрын

well said

@chuckhenderson7036

7 ай бұрын

You are not responsible for another persons riding level. He should have had enough sense to pull out of the way. I have been the fast bike(CBR600RR) and the slow Harley rider, and on my Harley I move out the way.

@SILVERK5

6 ай бұрын

Well said. But I am always surprised that making it easy for faster vehicles to pass you is not a UNIVERSALY known courtesy (wether in a car, on a motorcycle, a mountain bike, snow mobile, horse, cross country skiing, or even walking up narrow stairs...

It's a mountain pass, not a race track. If everyone who felt like speeding expected everyone doing the speed limit to leave the road for them to pass, none of us would ever get anywhere...

Ride at the speed you're comfortable with.

@UnburdenedByWhatHasBeen

6 ай бұрын

Yup and gtfo of the way of faster riders

This scenario is familiar to bikers everywhere. You're on a decent piece of road, perfect for motorcycling, but then find yourself stuck behind a slow moving tractor (The majority of UK bikers refer to Harleys as "Two Wheeled Tractors").

@pauln6803

2 жыл бұрын

I can get past a lump of pig iron no problem, it's the tin boxes I have problems with. Anyone in anything remotely SUV styled or an Audi (disproportionately driven by twats who will pull out to try and stop you filtering) and I know what's coming. I've had a few instances of HGV drivers looking down the road and waving me past when it's safe. Respect to the truckers!

@Jack-xy2pz

Жыл бұрын

Most British riders don't know how to lean their bikes over in turns

@NOBUxDrillz

Жыл бұрын

And most Europeans don't even own bikes over 300cc😂😂😂

I rode it on my Fatboy this past Memorial Day. A few sportbikes passed me and I didn't care. I think they were crazy but I you need to live that far over the edge of life then be my guest!

@JamesScottSi

3 жыл бұрын

I hear ya, I let'em pass all the time and watch them fly by. Cheers.

@suzannefisher3969

3 жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more..I ride a softail Deuce and would have been the same pace as the harley guy. Sport bikes just have a need for speed

@norseman5041

2 жыл бұрын

​@@suzannefisher3969 Yes, we do like to go fast, that is true, It is the enjoyment of having a modern motorcycle, why is it so hard to understand for HD riders?

@seanmurphy637

Жыл бұрын

You might think they are over the edge while they may just be having a comfortable ride well within their skill level. You don't know what they can do and dont underestimate modern sports bikes.

The HD guy was riding at his max limit, no brain power left so he goes straight to anger because in his mind, everybody is against him.

@Uturn831

2 жыл бұрын

brain power would be not crowding someone. The HD rider is already leaning to the point that he is almost dragging the pipes on the ground that bike was not made to carve up the twistes it was made to cruise and most people really don't like someone riding that close to them for the simple reason crap happens an it's there life an there bike you are putting at risk. But who cares right? As long as you are having fun. but some how all the addes up to the HD rider being dumb? wow you really are a snowflake

@troymyers5181

2 жыл бұрын

You're a idiot, he was pissed because he passed him in the same lane. He should of threw his helmet at him for that dumb shit.

@matfriske5548

2 жыл бұрын

Pull your slow ass over, problem solved. Next time drive your mini SUV your boyfriend bought you.

@englishsteel-nz6im

Жыл бұрын

There's a lot of these types on HDs and I have a HD in my garage lol.... I don't use it for technical twisty roads tho it's for cruising or longer scenic runs. Have two sport bikes for the twisties and track. He was mad because he's slow but there's nothing wrong with being slow you just let the faster rider pass-- same idea with the entitled cyclists--- the cyclist can move over a few feet and let people pass and everybody can enjoy their day.

@jimjohnson3307

Жыл бұрын

I don't have a problem with people passing me but they need to stay the he'll out of my lane.

No one likes to be pushed from behind. I would have let you pass so I could just relax and enjoy the ride. I once was a fast rider but now at the age of sixty and a different perspective on life. This is supposed to be a enjoyable and relaxing time in your life. Slow down, chill out and smell the roses.

@JamesScottSi

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Jeff ... agree, I always move right for other bikes when safe and let faster riders by too. Thanks for the comments and wishing you and your family well.

@adstryker5084

2 жыл бұрын

No one likes to be pushed from the front either -- maybe Double-Wide should have stayed home in his rocking chair if he has no consideration for others on an awesome road like that.

I ride with a couple friends regularly all over the country. One is from Kansas and he does not get much practice cornering, especially blind turns common to mountain areas. I always tell him to stay in his comfort zone and simply move to the right on straightaways if someone is faster. EZ and safe 👍

I ride my own speed, if someone is hauling ass they can work around me. I would never get pissed at someone for wanting to ride faster.

When I see a faster rider or group of riders I ease off to the right and signal wave them to pass by. It's done in a couple of seconds and you can get back to your own riding pace. Don't be a prick on the road holding everyone from enjoying the day.

I really hate people like this. Just pull aside. Let everyone ride their ride the way they want. Don’t ruin it by insisting everyone behind you is held hostage.

@mumbler5644

3 жыл бұрын

Funny remark Let everyone ride there ride .... Think you meant let everyone one ride there own ride unless you inconvenience me... Spoken like a true Democrat

@EZ2XLR8

3 жыл бұрын

@@mumbler5644 let me correct you. If you want to drive slower do it, just don’t keep people behind you from doing what they want. I’m not insisting you go fast so don’t insist I drive slow. No Democrats here. Don’t get it twisted.

@EZ2XLR8

2 жыл бұрын

@Munchkin Head nobody mentioned being more important or better. The point is if you want to drive 15 mph don’t force everyone behind you to do it too.

Good pass. Not sure why he was upset. I’ve ridden supermotos, naked sports bike, and my Harley on the dragon. Just pulled to the side when someone faster comes up behind me

@troymyers5181

2 жыл бұрын

Good pass? You pass people in the same lane? I'd follow that dumb shit down and beat him to death with my helmet for that bs.

@pauln6803

2 жыл бұрын

I know those cruiser things aren't renowned for ground clearance and handling but this guy seemed to be very close to running over the centre line.

@BrandonWest87

Жыл бұрын

@@pauln6803 Right? He crossed the double yellow on every single left turn, wouldn’t turn his head and look through each turn, and counterbalanced for some friggin reason. Guy was a terrible rider.

If you’re so skilled, why’d it take you so long to get around him? Don’t throw stones if you live in a glass house.

@JamesScottSi

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure where you came up with me being so skilled. No stones thrown, just a bird flipped. Be well lobster-dude.

@kpd3308

2 жыл бұрын

It took him so long because there are very few places that you can safely pass using the other lane, even if the guy ahead of you is dragging his diaper.

@dgphi

Жыл бұрын

It's hard to overtake people safely in tight twisties especially when they speed up in the straights, which they always do. Plus it is illegal to pass on the double solid lines.

@alank808

Ай бұрын

@@JamesScottSi You like videos I enjoy videos as well. Watch some of the bad crashes on mtn. rds. and think about it. You are not going to beat the mtn. The Dragon is not the place for lack of patience. Too much traffic. Many other rides better than the Dragon with far less traffic. Try the Wayah for a great ride with far less traffic. Many others up in the area just as tech. they just don`t draw the crowds. Oh and many have scenery that is what the dragon doesn't.

Realistically, only 50% of all vehicles (cars, trucks, bikes) actually use the many pull-offs at Deal's Gap. 2 decades ago, most visitors kinda knew the courtesy-rules of that road, but no more. My rule is that if the slower traffic fails to use the 3rd avail pull-off, then I use the next one and give them (and any other closeby sameway traffic) 30sec to 60 sec to get ahead instead of spoiling so much of my run. I always visit The Dragon with enough time to forfeit at least one or two runs to traffic and still run 2 or 3 passes from the Motor Lodge to the Scenic Overlook.

If someone behind you is on a faster better handling Bike just let them pass

@JamesScottSi

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed - I'm happy to move right or use a pull-off and then ride on. I wait until I'm comfortable and it is safe and 129 makes it very easy with their pull-offs.

@mumbler5644

3 жыл бұрын

@@JamesScottSi Not really as again you show how stupid you truly are. I ride that road often and most pull offs are gravel covered. Your the issue not the slow rider. I come up on a slower rider my first thoughts are 1st timer new rider or worse new rider and new touring bike. I give them space and enjoy my day. Look forward to seeing you rubber side up over the edge, I will wave

If loud pipes save lives, just imagine what learning to ride could do!?

@mzzzz7331

2 жыл бұрын

Right. And if loud pipes save lives, why not duct take your horn button down - at least it's pointing in the right direction! Oh yeh, because that's against the law. So are loud pipes. It's called disturbing the peace. Man a cop loved it when I got him to realize that. Harley riders blipping their loud pipes at a stop light, not so much. (he ticketed them till he got tired of the novelty)

@troymyers5181

2 жыл бұрын

He was riding fine, at the speed limit. You dumb fucks racing around the roads like this idiot is how people get killed. Take that shit to the track.

@slowninja14

2 жыл бұрын

@@troymyers5181 nobody in this video was "racing around" or even going all that quick. You're just an internet Karen!

@justsomedude445

2 жыл бұрын

LoLoL dude = perfect

@tedmarakas2626

2 жыл бұрын

Learning how to ride is precious, I've been practicing my skills for over 30 years BUT living in the liberal toilet bowl NYC where imbeciles in Taxis and others with zero driving skills rule......yes loud-ER pipes have saved my life a few times. I'm talking about the socially acceptable loud not the HD stupid deafening loud for no reason.....especially the red light revving retarded loud

Everyone knows the tail of the dragon is where people like to ride kinda fast , I always pull over to let the fast guys go the older I get the more I just want to enjoy and that’s what owning a motorcycle is all about , enjoy don’t get mad because someone goes around you

yesterday we were a group of sport bike riders who caught up on a very slow team of HD riders, last one on a trike licking the yellow. We were behind them for a good 15 minutes, they did not give two F's and road in the middle of the road not letting anyone pass safely, so when the opportunity came, we throttled up to pass them. I had to get in-between them when a big rig came towards us, man did they get pissed. Fingers up, pistol hand gestures. What is wrong with these people, any normal individual would ride on the side of the road letting us pass in a safe manner, but no, not these idiots. They own the road on their 50hp 900 ibs machines, no riding gear except the huge chain holding their empty wallet after investing in the fake lifestyle machine.

@raytycker1656

Жыл бұрын

Hell some sport bikes run as much as some Harleys.

To those who fail to move over for faster traffic: You will cause people to do dumb things, putting others and even yourself at risk. Whether or not you may be legally responsible for a crash, you are morally responsible. To the faster people: If you come up on someone who won't move over, but you can control yourself, go ahead and take a pull off and wait for a gap to open up.

@illhaveanother4365

3 жыл бұрын

Ok dad

@thatmanstumototours2270

3 жыл бұрын

Or just catch the right moment and quickly and efficiently go around his dumb ass...

@DaemonWulf7

2 жыл бұрын

you're morally responsible for others who choose to do dumb things? that's the most idiotic, not-taking-responsibility-for-your-own-bullshit thing i've heard today. you're the goddamn problem.

@jeffhickman10

2 жыл бұрын

Wrong! There is no law that says you have to move over but YOU still have a legal obligation to maintain a safe distance. Morality has nothing at all to do with it.

@paulkelly4731

2 жыл бұрын

Not to mention the double yellow line means it is illegal to pass... there's that.

Everybody is bashing the guy riding the cruiser he’s going the posted speed limit across that road. It’s not your personal racetrack. Do you expect people to pull over and let you go by when your driving your car on any other road? No you don’t. He wasn’t obligated to pull over and let you go by at any time, he has the right to travel that road as much as you, he just went the legal speed limit. Courtesy goes both ways.

@JamesScottSi

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Darren ... if you look through the comments I think you'll find it is pretty equitable. The pull-offs are used by cars, motorcycles, trucks, etc. for faster traffic and are used frequently by some and not by some others - there isn't any obligation to use them. Lastly, his speed varied and was often under the speed limit. All that said, cool, ride your ride as safety is paramount. Allow others to pass or not, that is up to the individual. I'm in the camp allowing others to pass is cool. Wishing you and yours well and thanks for stopping by.

@darrenleonard339

4 жыл бұрын

James Scott S Not saying your in the wrong or right. I personally rode this last weekend and we used the pull offs to let faster riders and drivers pass when we seen them behind us. My son who is just starting to ride was following me and we just about got ran over by someone on a non street legal super motard bike passed us in a curve. If it had caused one of us to wreck he would have never know it and would have been long gone. If I came across as being a dick I apologize, just that incident left a bad taste in my mouth and I will never ride it again. I’m not risking my life so someone else can ride like an idiot. Keep the shiny side up

@JamesScottSi

4 жыл бұрын

@@darrenleonard339 ... ah, how cool to enjoy a ride with your son. I labor to pullover when someone is behind me, but I do it on my terms and when safe. I too have had the motard and sportbikes just skim by me impatiently and unsafely. Thank goodness it is in large part an exception and never any accident, but damn annoying all the same. Have a good weekend. Cheers.

people who disliked this dont pull off

Main rule is to NEVER cross the double yellow line. You could have pulled over and let the less experienced do the limit and enjoy his ride as well. That's what I would do anyway.

You could have pulled over and waited for 5 to 10 minutes too

@JamesScottSi

3 жыл бұрын

The couple of times I did that I ended up behind a van and a truck. They kindly pulled over after a few turns. It isn't a big deal. Cheers.

@steveoconnor7069

2 жыл бұрын

As slow as that guy was 20 to 30 might be a better wait period.

I only rode my 2017 FLD one time on the tail, and I saw 3 accidents on the way in. Even I knew to pull over to let others pass who were familiar with the road, as I was not and drove a little over the speed limit. To each His/Her own.

@JamesScottSi

3 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of my first time riding in 2005 on my '05 HD Ultra Classic ... I'm from flat Florida ... I took it slow, enjoyed the change of scenery and simply moved right and got a kick out of the faster rider's skills as I watched them fade in the turns in front of me. We all get our kicks differently.

@jamesadams2334

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesScottSi yep. The BMW rider was just being ignorant. I do believe he was the one riding over his head.

@BrandonWest87

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesadams2334 Uh…you do realize HE is the BMW rider in the video…right?

Hardly Go Davidson rider was butt hurt because when he woke up this morning he was confused on which sleeveless shirt to wear,

I never want to be holding up anyone else's ride. I ride a supersport, but by no means am I a "knee dragger". I'd rather ride at my own pace without someone tailgating me, so I gladly wave them around.

Ride the Dragon a few weekends ago on my KLR - beautiful day. Saw a lot of happy people enjoying the good weather. No accidents or anybody getting angry. Been riding my whole life, almost 70. For last 4,000,000 miles been pushing 18 wheeler - courtesy goes a long, long way.

@johngibson1439

2 жыл бұрын

I have the most respect for you .. I just hit half a million miles, perfect record... Driving OTR changed the way I ride. I would love to take my FJR1300 to the tail..

@michaelcrowley1172

2 жыл бұрын

Question ,have you been riding your whole life?.Answer, not yet,lol.

@johngibson1439

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelcrowley1172 That's a great comment. No sir, I'll ride forever. The tail is far from home, Crowley lake, Calif. But I'll make it soon.

As my granddad used to say, "Some peoples kids, you can't take them anywhere!" That Harley rider was angry when he left the house, whatchya gonna do?

@DTO..

Жыл бұрын

: being "crowded and buzzed without warning" didn't help the disposition either.

@BrandonWest87

Жыл бұрын

@@DTO.. He should have pulled off. He knew the GS rider was behind him waiting to go. The guy rode at a slug pace, crossed the double yellow on every left turn, counterbalanced (wrong!) rather than shifting body weight down, didn’t look through turns, etc. The hardley guy was a trash rider and should have pulled off or gone when it was less busy.

@williamjohnson6517

Жыл бұрын

@@BrandonWest87Agree 👍

To people who say BMW was riding HD's ass, I say he was only (politely) showing he was faster (no honking, no flashing the high beam, no showing his front wheel...) ALL HD HAD TO DO WAS WAVE HIM BY (which was probably the coutesy BMW was hopping for). And they'd both have a more enjoyable ride after. But NO !!! Instead of taking 1 second to alllow a clean pass, HD PICKED UP THE PACE !!! (Ego ?) HD was using the full lane, on and off the brakes, while BMW was not even breathing hard and not even using his brakes ! So people who say BMW was "racing", I'd reply HD was A LOT closer to "the edge" then BMW. (which is not a racer but an adventure bike btw) So seeing HD would never let him by, BMW waited for a rare short straight at the dragon, and did a super clean and safe pass (even if double line), and it took 2 seconds to complete it. HD reminded me of people going the speed limit in the left lane of a highway, and behing pissed when someone passes them on the right because "they are going the speed limit so no one should pass them".

Imagine going to fulfill one's dream of riding the TotD only to get stuck behind a ****'n moron. "No police around here so now I'm his deputy to stop anyone from speeding!" This to be pronounced in a horrific Allison Grossish old-hag pitched voice. As a Harley rider I'm sending my apologies on his behalf, dear James!

@JamesScottSi

11 ай бұрын

No apologies - any day on two wheels, wether spirited pace or slow, is better than a day in the office. Just rented a nice Street Glide to tour the Rocky Mountains; I enjoy my HD rides too. Cheers.

He's all grumpy because he damn near wrecked before pull-off #4, trying to keep that tractor ahead of you.

@GiantMeteor2024

2 жыл бұрын

😂 That's a fact Jack! That HD dude was the lead biker in South Parks "Bike Curious" episode.

I didn’t come to a racetrack - I took 129 to go to the dentist !

@JamesScottSi

3 жыл бұрын

good day - agree it isn't a racetrack and my speeds were the limit or slightly above - and there is no obligation to pullover, but the majority of slower riders do so without fuss. Cheers to good dental care and safe passage there and back.

@norseman5041

2 жыл бұрын

That is a lie, the HD guys don't have money to go to the dentist after all the screaming eagle upgrades they had to invest in to look exactly the same as everyone else on the steed. LOL

I just don't understand rude, selfish riders. It hurts NOTHING to pull slightly to the right and let a more skilled rider pass you....SMH...

Every time I’ve ridden the Tail, I’ve gotten stuck behind entitled a-holes like that guy. Same type of person that squats in the left lane of the freeway.

@JamesScottSi

2 жыл бұрын

My experience riding in general and the Tail is overwhelmingly positive. This moment for me is very much the exception.

@troymyers5181

2 жыл бұрын

Stuck behind someone doing the speed limit? I feel so sorry for you.

@matfriske5548

2 жыл бұрын

Well, we found out who the HD rider in the video is....

@troymyers5181

2 жыл бұрын

@@matfriske5548 also found out who's on the other side of the glory hole at the truck stop.

@mcross320

2 жыл бұрын

When he bought that Harley at the boutigue, they told him he was now a King of the Road.#1. 1.Don't let nobody go around you. 2.act like everybody else made a mistake and didn't buy a Harley. 3. HOG the left and make it harder to pass, even when that is the WORST line around a corner. 4. Pretend you don't know when a faster rider is approaching because you don't use mirrors and will feel like a pussy if you wave them by. You know, same rules as if you are driving your oversized SUV.

It's a public road. He has the right of way and no legal obligation to yield. You passed in a no-passing zone. Never the less, riders should always pull over for dangerous tailgaters. Riding like that gives the sport a bad name and leads to stupid catch phrases like 'it's not a matter of "if" but "when". - Illinois State Motorcycle Trainer

@bamabiker

2 жыл бұрын

wrong!!! someone tailgates me, their windshield or them is getting peppered with steel bearings

@fruitydickens6291

2 жыл бұрын

@@bamabiker LOL...sure, toughguy. I hope you enjoy your meltdown.

There is a mindset in the world, which wants to hold everyone else down to its lower level of functionality. Also, it rules the world.

Harley riders dont give a shit about anyone else other than another Harley rider, thats why you hardly ever get the motorcycle wave from them when you ride a Kawasaki.

You were pushing him… different bikes, different riding styles. Be cool man. Wait for your pass op, then go live your best life.

Last time I looked at the driving manual, a double solid line means no passing. All you sport bike dudes think normal speed limits and road rules don’t apply to you? At least if you decide to pass on a double solid line, pull far out into the oncoming lane and give the rider ahead plenty of room.

@cjhockett4308

2 жыл бұрын

Why not just pull over? We're not doing anything but having our ride ruined by big bodied bikes that can't corner, brother. I don't whine when a Harley revs up with loud ass pipes blaring 90's ass rock, so please give me the same courtesy when I'm enjoying angles your bike just cannot physically achieve.

@kimlannard5388

2 жыл бұрын

@@cjhockett4308 You sound pretty entitled kid. Take your bike to the racetrack to enjoy your angles, not a public road.

@cjhockett4308

2 жыл бұрын

@@kimlannard5388 Aww. Resorting to insults. Chasing perfection in the corners on track is why I can push it a little further on the road than most riders. This “Kid” is in his thirties, Kim. I’ve probably done more track miles than your bike has seen on the road. Good try, though

@borat1962

2 жыл бұрын

Hopefully the harley guy smacked you at the end

they have a mentality where they can't believe other bikes handle, brake, accelerate better, and are way more reliable. I've owned both, the HD has a chain welded to it at the bottom of a lake holding the buoy I tie my boat to

People don’t HAVE to pull over to let you pass. It’s not fucking mandatory. Not everyone rides the Tail like they are at a goddam track.

@JamesScottSi

4 жыл бұрын

Rob ... you are correct ... moving over is a courtesy and not mandatory. First, please refrain from taking the Lord's name in vain on my channel. Second, wishing you and your family well and good health during these uncertain times. Best regards - James

@robbowers916

4 жыл бұрын

James Scott S First, I would like to apologize for using that kind of language on your channel. I just get so aggravated when people who ride faster than others make videos like this to make it seem like it’s an inconvenience when someone else rides slower. All other people who commented here say that the Harley rider is at fault, when he’s not. Too many accidents on that road from boneheaded riders and he just didn’t want to be a statistic. Lastly, thank you for the well wishes. I hope nothing but the best for you and your family as well. Stay safe out there. Keep the rubber on the road and the shiny side up.

@JamesScottSi

4 жыл бұрын

@@robbowers916 Hi Rob ... thanks for the note. Again, all the best and hope we can be back out there riding some distances in the months ahead. Cheers.

He's not mad at you, he's just mad cause he knows he has another payment due on that overpriced POS he is riding. Don't take it personal most Harley riders think they own the road.

It’s nice to be important but it’s more important to be nicer.

Passing another bike in the same lane is dangerous when you are unfamiliar with the rider. You don't know his skill level and he doesn't know yours. You wouldn't ride axle up with a stranger so it's safe to assume you wouldn't want another bike in your lane. That is likely the reason for the reluctance to let you pass especially on a curvy road like that. Some riders dont have the skill level to maintain lane position in a curve and he was probably unfamiliar with the road as the dragon brings many tourists. Not saying he was in the right but you have to consider all the possibilities before you tear a stranger down.

@JamesScottSi

5 жыл бұрын

I didn't tear anyone down, and at the time I passed, it was parking lot speeds ... 15mph, and after hugging the double yellow, he clearly moved right so I could pass left. For whatever reason, he was put off by having to do this. And if your skill level isn't at a level to maneuver your bike safely to the right, then you have no business being on the road, let alone US129.

@BatmanRydin

5 жыл бұрын

That was not intended as an attack on you. Just a little insight from a fellow biker to explain to the cage drivers commenting on this video. A PSA if you will. I agree that if you are lacking in skill you shouldn't be attempting a ride like that. But it is as I said earlier. This is one of the major tourist attractions in the biker world so people of all measures of skill ride it. That is why bikes go down so often there.

@steveholman5978

4 жыл бұрын

Passing another biker in the same lane is very dangerous, even if you know who you're passing. I was riding down I5 in CA with three good buddies once, and we were jockeying around quite a bit. I decided to get on it and unintentionally pulled a bit of a wheelie. At the same time, unknown to me, my buddy coming up from behind went flying by me in my lane. His right hand grip passed under my left hand grip, but had I not accidentally pulled a wheelie, we would have hit and both of us could have ended up sliding down the pavement. Don't pass someone in their lane unless you know them and they know you are passing.

@mumbler5644

3 жыл бұрын

Amen

@mumbler5644

3 жыл бұрын

@@JamesScottSi That's right .. Because you own it right james ? I will let the DOT in Tenn. know it is james rode. BTW there are 15 mph curves on that rode. I ride it often . Seems the guy was riding the proper line and riding safe other the some clown riding up his ass. After reading most of your self centered yuppie comments I am convinced you are the problem.

He was under no obligation to "let you pass" or "help you pass." And for you think so says a lot about you, lol. If you want to pass, then just pass, but maybe "your skills" aren't good enough? Lol.

I'm 65, I ride a Harley, when I see sport bikes behind me, I have them to go by, why ruin my ride and theirs?

That’s the equivalent to cars going slow in the left lane on the interstate! Frustrating!

@mumbler5644

3 жыл бұрын

This is a 35 mph rode not the interstate

@firearminstructor135

3 жыл бұрын

@@mumbler5644 still a courtesy. No matter your opinion.

@roberto4938

3 жыл бұрын

@@mumbler5644 It's also the Dragon..

@GiantMeteor2024

2 жыл бұрын

Going by his show of novice rider skills on a bike that's not agile, shows he's a middle aged first time rider thats trying to play 1 percenter. Probably the same kinda guy that has to take up 2 parking spaces with his GMC Denali that will never tow or haul so much as a bag of mulch. 😂

@steveoconnor7069

2 жыл бұрын

@@GiantMeteor2024 False pride has put many a bike in the ditch.

It may be good manners to pull over and let you pass but there’s no law that says the Harley had to. He just wanted to cruise and enjoy himself.

@JamesScottSi

4 жыл бұрын

agree ... most other riders do ... on occasion, one won't ... and he was under no obligation to do so ... cheers and stay well

@xxsunnymelodyxx77

3 жыл бұрын

It’s a public road .... local road for residents. Lots of happy valley folks dread it . It’s now do much “how you pass” but rather “where you choose to pass” I’d say.

@xxsunnymelodyxx77

3 жыл бұрын

Nope. Eyes in the curves trumps watching your mirrors all the time for wheeled bullets coming up hard on you . Getting buzzed in curves sucks.

@rausemause3109

11 ай бұрын

@@xxsunnymelodyxx77 Harley rider is watching the road and this nutcracker is on his ass giving him two things to worry about the road and the fool behind him either pass his ass up and get it over with or back down and stop tailgating.

Cut him some slack, him mom told him he was a natural born leader, so he never thinks of looking behind him for real talent.

I have run into similar people riding, the Dragon included. I don't get it.... I'm thankful I don't have to deal with them on a regular basis. Imagine living next door to people like that.

I live near a 2-lane country road that I often ride. If I'm too slow for anyone I just pull over. If they're too slow for me they pull over. Nobody gets mad.

@dgphi

Жыл бұрын

That's how it should be. Everyone wins. It doesn't need to be an ego thing. Sometimes people want to go faster than you for whatever reason, and sometimes you want to go faster than them.

I have passed and been past so many time there... I try to ride it pretty fast but there are some locals on superbikes that blow by everyone..

You do realize the reason he was rude and would not pull off for you was because you weren't riding a harley-davidson, right? I'm almost to the point that I stopped waving at anything that looks like a harley myself.

That harley rider had a much bigger bike and he was riding perfectly fine. i wouldnt give a shit about thinking a sports bike thats behind me is a reason to let him pass. thats a freeking windy road, no time to move out the way as your fixed concentration needs to be on that road. Also, overtaking on roads like that is just plain right stupidity. Id rather ride with the Harley guy if i am to be completely honest.

I think you are right to be pissed, the guy was clearly an arse, there's plenty of room for two bikes to pass , take no notice of these armchair riders that say it's not ok.

@steveholman5978

4 жыл бұрын

The Harley rider was taking the best line for the curves, and I'd be surprised if he wasn't pushing the speed limit himself. To get angry at him is just being a dick.

@greaseman93

4 жыл бұрын

The Harley rider had several opportunities to pull off and let the quicker bike pass, its what you do there. Shit, I ride a Harley and I would have passed that dude.

@MrHarleyoldfart

4 жыл бұрын

Just to be clear, I ride Harleys and if i see someone coming up behind me i always move over, if they choose not to pass then i move back out, but i always give other riders the opportunity.

@steveoconnor7069

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrHarleyoldfart Yeah, The idea is to have a good time, at least I think it is. Over the years I find myself riding the Cherohala or the Parkway more than the Dragon. I like being able to enjoy the view and the halfway point on the Dragon is about the only spot for scenery.

@troymyers5181

2 жыл бұрын

Fuck you. Never pass another motorcycle in the same lane, period. I don't care if he was doing 5 mph. That's how people get killed.

We can all enjoy our own level of riding with a little understanding and Courtesy.

@rickcamelli7023

2 жыл бұрын

The guy in front with an asshole you never passed someone in the same Lane whether it's on a bike or car where'd you guys get your license at

I hope my comment was less dangerous than the "educational" video.

Idk why cruiser riders even do the dragon. You can drive slow af on any public road. Ppl go there for brisk riding. Thats like going to the drag strip and running a pedal bike.

@SILVERK5

6 ай бұрын

or complaining about the noise ! loll..🤣

He must be one of those Harley Riders that will not wave back unless you are a Harley guy. A little respect for a fellow rider would have been really nice by that guy. Oh well, looks like you had a good time. Great ride!

@JamesScottSi

5 жыл бұрын

thanks, agreed, I extend the courteous I expect ... some just don't care ... but it was only a couple of miles ... it was a great day

@steveholman5978

4 жыл бұрын

I don't know about others, but I have a hard time knowing the make or model of an approaching motorcycle, especially at highway speeds. I wave to whomever I pass if I see them in time. That being said, 99% of Harley riders are older, smarter, and more law-abiding than those who ride the crotchrockets. To be honest, if I knew I was passing one of those drive-as-fast-as-you-want, pull-a-wheelie-anytime-you-feel-like-it, fuck-the-law-and-everyone-else-on-the-road, assholes, I'd flip them off, too, rather than waving at them. I saw nothing wrong with the Harley rider. He took a good line through the curves and was probably at or just over the speed limit. If some asshole comes up behind him and doesn't like it, let that fucker pull over and let the Harley rider get far enough ahead of him that he won't be a problem in the future.

@danielcamacho1913

4 жыл бұрын

It looked to me like the Harley rider waved at him. ...If only with one finger. XD

@thentantt

3 жыл бұрын

Actually i have noticed this. I ride both a Harley sportster and a bmw s1000r. Harley guys only really wave to other Harley guys

@DaemonWulf7

2 жыл бұрын

yeah, because this guy was being super respectful tailgating the shit out of him

Tough guy got his feelings hurt

Those pull-over spots are for lowly motorcycle riders, not HARLEY riders.

Let’s be courteous to one another, yet there you were riding up his ass while he’s doing the speed limit. He had as much right to enjoy his ride as you did.

Hey James, would it be ok to include your clip in a moto compilation of angry people. It would be linked and credited. Thanks, MM

@JamesScottSi

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, of course ... send me the link if used so I can watch. Cheers.

@MotoMadness

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate, I will let u know when I use it. Keep an eye on your spam box as the links have been ending up there. MM

@MotoMadness

5 жыл бұрын

Hey mate, check out the edit called STUPID, CRAZY & ANGRY PEOPLE VS BIKERS [Ep.#775] - kzread.info/dash/bejne/iYN7spKRYZyvl9Y.html with your clip featured. Thanks for letting me include it! MM

I would suggest that both of you are at fault. In as much as the bagger guy was killing your ride as you were killing his. He could have moved over…also you could have backed off and maybe pulled over yourself for a bit. It’s a public road and he had as much right to the road as you. Cooler heads prevail.

@rausemause3109

11 ай бұрын

Harley rider is watching the road and this nutcracker is on his ass giving him two things to worry about the road and the fool behind him either pass his ass up and get it over with or back down and stop tailgating.

Damn shame on the HD guy. But coming from a speed triple now on a road king and they are big AF but I’ve hustled it through some turns and was pleasantly surprised with the handling just gotta ride them correctly. Obviously not as good as a sport bike or a touring but good enough.

I think you should have passed him sooner. That way a slow rider doesn’t feel pressured and uncomfortable. We all have our own comfort levels and skills. Clearly the Harley rider needs better communication skills as well.

@JamesScottSi

Жыл бұрын

I agree - I'm not a fan of crossing the double yellow and figured he'd do what 90% of other bikes do, slide right and wave me on or use the pulloff. So this went on longer than I expected. Looking back, after the first pulloff, could have passed. Easier to reflect than in the moment.

Just rode through the dragon recently. Those cruisers don't pull over for nobody, no matter how slow they are.

I live in this area, it’s so annoying how many out of town people come in and slow everyone down. We put the turn out spots in for a reason. Believe me, all of us locals are just as angry as anyone else. P.S. flat landers are the worst. Jk. Lol.

@JamesScottSi

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with that flat landers comment. I got a good laugh. Overwhelming my experience with fellow riders is positive, and then there is the exception. I just happened to capture and post the exception. Be well - cheers.

@jimjohnson3307

Жыл бұрын

Turn out spots are for emergency pull offs, not for hotdogs with a death wish.

You never win against a-holes like that. Such situations I just pull over, take a 5-min or so or until I sense the timing is better. Usually works to avoid aggravation.

I wouldn't have waited as long as you did, you were very patient. Harleys.....🙈

Same here I ride a bagger and I just let them go no reason to be pissed

Remember this is a "public" road. People use it everyday to get back n forth to work, medical visits, shopping, making deliveries, going boating, going camping, etc. Look on the map, there is no other road to get across in that area. The locals who ride the roads all the time can be up on you quick and pass you before you know what's happened and that pisses a lot of folks off. How many other two lane roads people pull over for you to pass. It could be their first time through and don't know to take the pull offs out of courtesy and legally, they don't have too. Speed limit is 30mph. A few years ago, the governor of North Carolina wanted to shut down the road but the locals educated him on the tourist money it generates. I found it best over the years to avoid the road altogether.

He was just making sure he didn't hit any CLIBBONS. Nice GS by the way

And people wonder why Harley riders have a bad reputation

Try living here in OH. So many of the riders carryover their car mentality to riding a bike. They'll behave as though a large rectangle of metal extends 3 feet to either side, and about 8 feet to the front and back. They would love to share the road, if only there was enough space. Watching the video, it's easy to get the sense that the Harley rider was indulging himself by blocking your path, and became frustrated as he realized he was powerless to continue doing so. I read the other comments, and I couldn't get enough of the meter maids whining about your overtake. It seemed safe and effective to me.

@JamesScottSi

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

I’ve encountered this sort of thing all over the country. Perplexing behavior especially our west where people in cars / trucks are used to using turnouts because that’s the local etiquette and not an assault on ones manhood

That's the Harley Bagger RR model. RR for Rolling Roadblock. We get them and their Honda compatriots (Goldwing RR) all the time in our mountains where none of them wear protective gear because they are riding so slow they don't think they need it...but then get pissed when you blow past them because they weren't expecting you to pass. Oh well....we try to get along but sometimes it doesn't work.

he`s riding a poxy harley, he was probably already angry.