TAIGA Review // What if Bob Moog & Don Buchla collaborated on a synth in the 70s? // Tutorial
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TIMELINE:
0:00 Intro
1:50 Overview
5:10 Oscillators
10:05 Sync
11:10 Glide
11:30 3 more LFOs
12:20 Mixer
13:00 Preamp
14:20 Mix/Split
15:00 Filter
18:30 Dynamics
21:55 Delay
22:45 Modulation
23:30 Ctrl module
23:55 Arp
25:25 Sequencer
25:45 Vel modes
27:40 CC modes
28:00 S&H
28:30 Pros & cons
31:40 Outro
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Sounds great, can't wait to sneak this into the house under the cover of darkness
@thisjustin77
Жыл бұрын
Has to be under the radar cause my wife gonna drop kick me
@chrisj5547
Жыл бұрын
Haha wife bad
@chriskelvin248
Жыл бұрын
Thank goodness for headphones
@supercompooper
Жыл бұрын
and when you are asked you say: "This? Why it's always been here, I just moved it so now you notice it??"
@chriskelvin248
Жыл бұрын
@@supercompooper omg, I JUST pulled this on my wife with the new gaming PC….
Great to see Pittsburgh modular back in innovation! Future purchase!
This is the best looking synth I've seen in a long while. It is very special for sure!
@BarbieChaite
Жыл бұрын
you never saw a roland sh-5...
@re8et355
Жыл бұрын
West Pest is good cost half the price, very nice lookin also somwht similar but patterns, taiga has seq also but Pest is better seq.
@IrrationalExuberance
Жыл бұрын
@@re8et355 800 / 2 = 250 in your world... okay
@reecedeyoung6595
Жыл бұрын
@@re8et355 bruh west pest is ugly 🪳
My Taiga lives in a 5 module rack with a Subharmonicon, Mother-32 and 2 x DFAM all playing nicely with each other. This video, like so many other Loopop videos was instrumental in my purchase decision. I am looking at switching out the Attack pots for logarithmic equivalents to see if it gives finer control over short attack times. Keep up the good work Ziv (and stay safe).
No connexion with our previous discussion, but since I am around: Let me thank you for the work you do for the community with your channel. Your reviews and demos have been of great help assembling my setup when I decided to give a try at modularity, a few months ago. 👍
Got mine today, thanks for this detailed review/walkthrough. Beautifully designed synth.
Fun fact: Bob Moog and Don Buchla actually did collaborate once, on the "Piano Bar" - a MIDI Controller for acoustic pianos.
@loopop
Жыл бұрын
yes, not quite what I would have imagined!
@Genshi
Жыл бұрын
@@loopop me neither. It would have been pretty amazing if they worked on an actual synth together.
@beezzarro
Жыл бұрын
Every time I see buchla, the price always has many more zeroes behind it than I can fathom. So I imagine this piano bar cost about $450,000,000
@Genshi
Жыл бұрын
@@beezzarro that's just silly. All manufacturers base their prices on the Build of Materials (BOM) plus a specific formula to get to their wholesale and retail prices that is fairly standard in the industry. In the case of the Piano Bar, it retailed for $1500.
@beezzarro
Жыл бұрын
@@Genshi I mean the number I mentioned was, of course, a joke. But Buchla gear is insanely priced. You cannot convince me that you need to be paying $2k for a rhythm generator when there are 10+ alternatives for a quarter of that.
I’ve always been a huge fan of low pass gates, that organic pluck just can’t be beaten!
Just got through this one and it helped me out a ton. Thanks again for always covering every detail.
The knobs are so beautiful! Love the colours.
That intro sounded incredible.
Awesome outro. The longer I follow your channel, the more I come for the music than the gear🎉
@loopop
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
Great review as always. Sold. Huge fan of their modules.
Absolutely stellar effort by Pittsburgh Modular
That jam at the end was awesome.
Great review, as always. Been dragging my feet about stepping into modular/hardware, mainly because of $$. Took a sound design course using Reaktor which gave me a foundation. This Taiga may be just what does it for me. The price seems very reasonable for what you get. Thanks.
Great review… this is a fantastic instrument. I always wondered if Pittsburgh Modular would have follow-up act to the excellent Microvolt 3900. I started getting worried they weren’t going to do any more. This would be awesome if this could fit in the Moog tier system (along with the Subharmonicon, DFAM, & Mother-32).
The outro was so good.
@loopop
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
Looks and sounds amazing!
You make these instruments sound so mucn more musical than most reviewers. I always checkout sonicstate too, but this channel is thedaddy. Only a few seconds into this video I'm thinking "want". That sweep of the third oscillator at about 0:53 turned it from want to buy.
Beautiful in both looks and sound
Great synth - happy to test soon! Colors match to my Matriach in a perfect way.
Oh no! Yet another synth I may become addicted to and have to get. I do like the form factor, with the patch jacks along the bottom (keeps the cords from covering the controls, easier to associate with functions). As always, you provide an excellent demo, clearly describing functions, how they work and sound like. It's a bit pricey, but does have great sounds and features.
I really like the design, features and layout 👍
@os_ros
Жыл бұрын
Me too, Unfortunately I don't like the sound :(
Beautiful looking synth!
Sounds fantastic, as anything from Pittsburgh does. Finally a suitable heir and upgrade from the SV1. You went all Suzanne Ciani on it a few times there, and there definately is a Buchla'esque character peaking through. Very delightful and the LPG seems to sound great. Thanks for a great review Ziv!
@wurlinnawurl
Жыл бұрын
Microvolt might not be a upgrade, but had buckets of character and was atleast as good as sv1. Much better than it seemed and still had a quality that even this is not quite there.. it was very lovable once you actually used it, way more dense then it seemed.
@loopop
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes in my imagination if Bob and Don had designed it, Suzanne would play it!
Sounds lovely!
Really nice tones. Definitely very interesting.
the final jam was absolutely amazing
Great review!
This looks like it’s falling right into my way of thinking (today). I’ve been eyeing up the OP-1 Field. Too cool for me/too expensive. Been wanting to go modular but my brain gets frazzled. This has the right amount of contemporary bits and bobs but with old school feel. I like it.
First mod would be to purchase some sort of direct audio recorder to capture for playback. The TAIGA is mesmerizing in the least. That along with the insanely good control of sound shaping. Another fine review and a t-shirt idea, "I'm jealous of your knobs" image of two synth's, one talking to the other.
Perfect add on for Moog Studio Bundle!
I just love it. I love the colors, the layout, the design and the sound. It's a home run, way to go Pittsburgh Modular. Hand's-on function per knob with minimal buttons, this is really a great design.
Wow that is a great looking and sounding synth. Pittsburgh do amazing things.
Nice one, congrats to PM for putting out another killer instrument!
Super cool, so much goodies packed into one box! High on my wish list
This is looking like my first semi-modular purchase ever.
this looks just great
Was thinking about buying this, recently picked up a Microvolt 3900 and loved it
Sounds amazing.
yes it sounds a lot like my west pest which is a good thing. the west pest has a weird Decay/sustain envelope (always a decay from the LPG; and the sustain is an offset), this expands on that with an adsr (which would mean if you add attack there's still the pluck from the lpg). certainly a unique concept.
Wow! This looks amazing! Love Pittsburgh Modular, they're quite underrated IMHO. Great, concise video on such a deep synth, thanks! Is it "skiff friendly"?
@loopop
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! It depends on your definition of skiff… I didnt measure it, it’s quite hefty - please ask the company and let us know back here in the comments?
@sCealt
Жыл бұрын
@@loopop Ah I've just read on modulargrid that the depth is 40mm, so I guess it can be considered "skiff", quite a broad term indeed.
Love the sound
Seems like a big brother of the West Pest. Very interesting and I think the price point is quite reasonable.
Looks nice and promising. It will be great to connect it with Crave, because patch panels are located in similar way
More like Buchla 208c married ARP26000m! I think mine will like a friend :) Great playing at the outro Loopop!
@loopop
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
Thanks for the comprehensive review, largely informed my choice to purchase a Taiga (and I'm very glad I did!) Such a great sounding synth, my only changes would be 5-pin or usb midi at the back, and I could live without the 'echos' module (...so far. A spring reverb would make a good alternative). Otherwise the oscillators and their shapers sound exceptionally good, as does the filter (always appreciate having a Bandpass) and the LPG makes for very dynamic, vibrant, and useable sounds. My hat goes off to Pittsburgh Modular for innovating while keeping the price sane, the Taiga might not be for everyone but those who love it are going to REALLY love it
@TwinCitiesOxygen
Жыл бұрын
Self tuning?
While it had nothing to do with the sound (which is superb), I found the reflections of the LEDs on the knobs most pleasing, especially when you hit the modwheel.
ok this is pretty fantastic!
i thought my GAS was cured but this is a fantastic synth, well done pittsburgh modular
Might sell my Make Noise O-coast to get this. Feels like a more powerful version.
Home run. Hole in one. Top class. Flying colours Aces high. Oh my.
Wow…sounds so good, serious synth
Would be awesome to see you review the physical Easel Command; loved your vst Easel overview
@wurlinnawurl
Жыл бұрын
Makes you wonder.. how is a less capable synth costs three times as much..
@os_ros
Жыл бұрын
@@wurlinnawurl Because it sounds 10X better.
@wurlinnawurl
Жыл бұрын
@@os_ros lol.. maybe.. I'm not quite sold on that but fair point.
When you pack knobs that close together, I think it would be nice if they took on a more conical shape, with the indicator still on the outside, allowing us to manipulate without fear of touching an adjacent knob.
Great sounding and fair priced. Only thing I miss is 3-note paraphony.
First off, much gratitude to you for your in-depth knowledge and ability to communicate so clearly. I am curious how one might go about learning whether or not Pittsburgh Modular listened to your cons and implemented some changes before officially releasing this? I owned one of their Microvolts, which had the capacity for much beauty but had some very serious issues. Taiga seems very alluring to me but oscillator 1 not being able to produce a square wave and occasionally stuttering causes me some hesitation.
@loopop
Жыл бұрын
Thanks and my pleasure. Re the faulty osc 1 square wave/stuttering - I've not seen anyone else complain about that in the comments yet. After this video was published they replaced my synth and it seems to be working fine as far as the square wave. I've not been able to replicate the stuttering yet, but I didn't spend too much time trying, it was a fairly rare occurrence even during the making of this video.
@jppaglia1285
Жыл бұрын
@@loopop Ah, ok, cool. Appreciate the response. That's very helpful to know and also means that I have no excuses not to go further into debt by picking up a Taiga :) Still paying off the minifreak I just picked up, but whatever it takes to keep playing. thanks again.
Thank you again for such an entertaining review (and sone great jams!). Regarding multi sampling - what do you recommend for sampling synths like this, will any reasonable hardware or software sampler do?
@loopop
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I recommend the free MPC Beats, and if you have a mega budget, SampleRobot. But for the basics, MPC Beats will do just fine
Back to a curiosity question, is this compatible with the Moog tiered set-up? That would be so cool if it were. I'd put this at the bottom of the 4 tiered system as this would be the one I'd most want to drive from a keyboard or sequencer like Analogue Solutions' Generator.
@UncleJimima
Жыл бұрын
@Paul Boos - I’m curious if this is pretty much just the next iteration of their Voltage Research Lab - All “west coast / additive”. Not much like the SV-1 at all. I own the Voltage Research Lab and I have LOVED - but this seems like an updated version with some extra bills and whistles. Andy one want to purchase a MINT Voltage Research Lab (with the wooden encasing and the the tough-pad). I also have a MOOG fest version of the original subharmonicon I’m unsure if I’m going to get rid of.
Loved the Ciani-esqued inspired sequence. 😊🥰
Is it too little space between knobs like on the VRL?
That intro tune was awesome. Very Ciani! Would love to play with this in quad. I wonder what Suzanne Ciani would make of this synth
How are you overlaying the scopes/displays/etc onto your videos like that? Every time I see that technique I'm impressed.
@loopop
Жыл бұрын
Thanks - I just stack layers in Premiere
I think this looks like a pretty cool instrument! I don't understand why some people in the synth community feel the need to criticize every new piece of gear that isn't made to precisely their taste. If it's not for you, don't waste your time criticizing it-- just focus on the gear that you do like! We're in a wonderful time in which the synth market's diversity has something for everyone😃
@dirtyduchamp
Жыл бұрын
I respectfully disagree. I think it is much more useful to be critical of what companies are producing, and what “reviewers” are doing with them. It is so easy to say “ omg I love it, omg I want one” but how is that going to push things forward? Fanboying goes both ways; saying everything is great is the same as saying nothing is.
Thanks for this Awesome Review. My question is can you get the Delay time to be longer with some sort of Mod? I'm not too much of a fan of these Short BB Delays
@loopop
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! The manual says you can extend it a bit with modulation but not much (500ms). I didn't try
This sounds like the bomb
Question: MIDI Channels? "All" or can they be selected. Seperately for that paraphonic mode? Thanks for the great and informed intro!
@loopop
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! You've got both "omni" and channel modes. The paraphonic notes work on the same channel
Could take a photo of the panel to help to record some sort of preset. My Taiga should arrive today. Looks and sounds great.
Price seems reasonable for the quality and explorative aspect. I would probably have bought it if I wasn’t anti-modular (well, my bank account is at least 😅).
I wonder if they are going to make a drum machine version kind of like the DFAM since they did those drum module "experiments" 🧐
Ooh man this thing looks juicy
Anyone else having trouble sequencing this thing with octatrack? Notes keep dropping out - seems like an issue with the midi-cv? Works perfect with digitakt....
Sounds fantastic. Price isn't terrible either.
GAS LEVELS UNSUSTAINABLE
You had me at pastel knobs 🥺
Yeah!!!! I still own a system 10. That's synth has the deepest bass I've ever heard. This reminds me of the pico
The East Beast and West Pest need a panel overlay and knobs in the Taiga style!
Five seconds into the video... My 0-Coast is looking at me very nervously....
Can I ask, what is creating the waveforms in the video? I like it a lot!
@loopop
Жыл бұрын
Hi, I use MOscilloscope and MAnalyzer by a company called Melda - they’re free with some limitations in the MFreeFXBundle. Occasionally I’ll use scopes by VCV
Impressive! also in size and price
yeeees i love it! one last question: how to patch it into "selfdronemode" so i can let it drone without external trigger for ever? like on the ms 20 patching the ext. sig. processor cv out into trig in....or does it drone on its own without patching?
@loopop
Жыл бұрын
Just turn up the dynamics knob
@jungstrauma4
Жыл бұрын
@@loopop okeeee. :):):):):):):)^^funny! many thanks!
Sorry for my stupid question - Are the two grey displays above the device augmented to the video (not existing in reality)?
@loopop
Жыл бұрын
They don't exist in real life unfortunately, just overlay of scopes by Melda
Hi, what format is the book you sell on Patreon? EPUB, pdf…? Thanks
@loopop
Жыл бұрын
It’s PDF. Thanks for your interest!
Wow, a very lovely synth, but I'm missing some special sounds! Yes, it sounds really great and has a lot of options, but if I compare to some really new machines with special sounds, which we have never heard or which are rare, I think this on has very similar sounds like Pro One or Nordlead or Waldorf synths e.g.. And yes, this is a big pro for this money and design - 100%, so don't understand it wrong. But in between so many new developements and modular and back to the past with addings of new developements, I personally miss a bit. ) - > Surely just because I have to many original high end old ones already ;)) The test is very detailed like always, love'em!
How does this sound compared to a Pittsburgh SV-1b? I have a Sv-1b currently and wonder if the Tiaga would be a good replacement or addition for me? I do love the sound of my SV-1b
@gregkrukemeier2003
Жыл бұрын
I have an SV-1 and preordered the Tiaga. I would never part ways with my SV-1. It is such a great sounding synth in my system. The PM Filter is so creamy, very Moog like, but not a Moog, and sounds great overdriven. Keep that SV-1b.
Goddamn, this is the most brilliantly designed synth I think Ive ever seen. And it sounds so good. I didn't think I'd ever want to replace my neutron but I'd trade it in a second for this.
@KrumpusPlunk
Жыл бұрын
I just ordered a neutron and it hasn’t even arrived yet and I already can’t help thinking the same :D
🤝 Looks great. Should fit well with the semimodular moogs in size.
@mikenoface
Жыл бұрын
yeah this and a DFAM might be fun.
hey thanks for this review)) which analysis tools that you screen in are you using?
@loopop
Жыл бұрын
Hi, I use MOscilloscope and MAnalyzer by a company called Melda - they’re free with some limitations in the MFreeFXBundle. Occasionally I’ll use scopes by VCV
@pilockakrach
Жыл бұрын
@@loopop merci!
Awesome
Ticking all the boxes 😮
Just got a Taiga. Struggling with it out of the box. I followed the quick start guide but it still behaving hella weird! Really odd. I'm triggering from an Arturia Minialb 3. Can see the LED's on the ADSR's triggering when I pres a key. But, they're not behaving well at all. And everything else sounds pretty off as well. Very odd. Not sure if it's broken or am just doing something silly! Any tips?! May have to get onto Pittsburgh I think 😕
@AveragePicker
9 ай бұрын
I did a factory reset....actually quite a few in all... but something was set weird on mine and the reset seemed to help. Dropping it down an octave or two from its default also helped get better sounds out of it. I really thought mine might be defective but the more I've played with it the more I've realized it is me. Where I play, the lighting is not great and the LEDs on it are way too bright and I have found myself putting it into odd modes accidentally too which doesn't help. I've also had better results when knobs are not turned all the way down but are nudged up at least a tiny tiny bit.
I didn't understand very well how you managed to play two melodies on the final jam, could you please explain? thanks man!
@loopop
Жыл бұрын
There's a button that lets you disconnect any osc from keyboard tracking - I did it to osc 3, then played it with the knob (which isn't easy to get the tuning right...). I also created two signal paths for each melody as I explained in the video. Aside from that there's also a paraphonic mode to play two different notes/melodies, also shown
@daniel_mana
Жыл бұрын
@@loopop thanks very much!
This looks cool. I am worried about the build quality. The West Pest would not seat the cables in tightly which caused numerous issues leading to it being returned.
Can you wavefold external audio. Just got tiaga. I can't seem to wavefold external audio
@soysos.tuffsound
Жыл бұрын
No, there's no way to do that. There's so much internal conditioning and processing of the oscillators before they go into the warp circuit and wave folders.
@biggrime
Жыл бұрын
@hermanpearl1430 thanks for the response. I've learned since my comment. Maybe looking adfing at a mavis. However taiga on its own does satisfy my folding dreams
Now i want one.
Right on, Ciani riffs for outro!
They really need to adjust the ADSR controls. That will be so annoying when trying to get accurate attack etc. Maybe Log pots.. But, I'm in! Looks like a brilliant synth apart from a few tweaks.
Would i be able to mod this to fit in a Moog module rack?
@gregkrukemeier2003
Жыл бұрын
PM Website says it's 60hp just like the Moog's. Probably have to remove the wood panels and mount them on the outside of a Moog tier stand for them to fit. Or get a pair of Moog wooden sides.
Would you get this over the poly d or model d For a "one and only"' synth setup?
@loopop
Жыл бұрын
I don't think people should do what I would, but rather see what fits their needs; but personally the answer is yes if I had to pick one of the three I'd pick this one
@b1rd317
Жыл бұрын
@@loopop of course ! But one's opinion is always good to hear, especially yours
@AveragePicker
Жыл бұрын
@@b1rd317 I actually just kicked my model d (behringer) out of my setup for the Taiga. ...That said, the D might go back in, and the Uno synth come out. I weirdly like the Uno, (I've also kind of got a thing for cheap unloved gear) but in my setup it has been relegated now to just filling in some sound here and there. I guess the "problem" is both my D and Uno have become one trick ponies for what I'm doing. That said...if I could only have one...I'd take the Taiga though I don't think of them as filling the same role. I did grow bored of the D pretty quickly...to the point that I was already figuring out work arounds to phase it out of songs I normally used it as part of. I haven't had the Taiga long but my gut is telling me that for what I do, it won't replace the D for what it's been doing, but it will replace it in a different, better, and more versatile way. ....Not really sure that helps lol.