What is most interesting is that this form is an original creation by Ren Guan Yi after decades of high level practice and study and it was done to help and honor his friendship with his great friend and student Lou Reed. Think of it as a new Picasso painting and study what new and wonderful insight it reveals.

Real teachers don't push their students away

I really appreciate the form names shown in the video. I've typed them up here, in order, with numbers. In some cases I used the form names (in English) as shown; in other cases I used slightly different English words that I like better or that are more familiar. Same meanings, though. Numbers 2 and 20 are the same movement, although the names given are different (both in English and Chinese), so I've used the same name. "Buddha's Warrior Attendant" is a terrible translation anyway; "Strong Man Pounds Mortar" or "Pound Mortar Like King Kong" makes more sense to me. Or just Pound Mortar. Can anyone tell me, is RGY's 21 form the same as the 19 form, slightly different, or quite different? 1. Beginning Form 2. King Kong pounds mortar (aka Buddha’s Warrior Attendant) 3. Sweeping Clouds to see the sun 4. Left Cannon 5. Right Cannon 6. Protecting Knees 7. Step Forward and Uppercut 8. Smash Face 9. Single Whip 10. Cloud Hands 11. Left Heel Kick 12. Right Heel Kick 13. Parting Wild Horse Mane 14. Cut Off 15. Brandish Sleeves While Turning Over 16. Cover Hands and Strike with Fist 17. Waist and Elbow Blocking 18. Elbow Strike 19. Black Dragon Comes out of Water 20. King Kong pounds mortar (aka Buddha’s Warrior Attendant) 21. Closing Form

@ronjarus937

6 жыл бұрын

significantly different from 19 form

@ShenFa

5 жыл бұрын

Ren Guangyi's 21 form and Chen Xiaowang's 19 form are completely different creations. Both of them use some of the movement names from the older long forms, and some adaptations or new movement names (for moves that are different in the newer forms). So changing the names to one that are "more familiar" is not a correct strategy.

@Rainbow_Oracle

3 жыл бұрын

Budhha's warrior attendant pounds mortar is indeed a poor translation. But King Kong is not the buddha's warrior. You might be misremembering Guan Gong (or Kuan Kong in the older romanization), which is a different martial folk hero. The name of the buddha's warrior is Jingang. Thus the technique should read as Jingang Pounds Mortar. One variation of the name of the technique is shen dao dui, which can be either spirit/ghost pounds mortar (likely related to the Jingang phrasing, ie channel the martial spirit of Jingang) or the homophonous shen dao dui which means body pounds mortar, which is a plainer, more sensible description of how to do the technique. The other possible variation is jingong dao dui which is more obscure, but should mean something like immediately or suddenly pound mortar. I can't say I've ever heard a living person use this variation but I came across the term Jingong translating old Taijiquan texts and I've always wondered if this might have been the original term in the Jingang technique, skewed over generations of oral tradition. Regardless, all of these variations of the name still make sense with dao dui, or pound mortar, being the important, unchanging bit between them.

@i08dragons

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rainbow_Oracle It's a funny coincidence that Jingang can also be translated as "King Kong". At least google translate thinks so.

@bruceching4078

Жыл бұрын

"King Kong?" Uh, seriously??