Which bags do you want to see tested next? 🎒👀

@elsward6244

Жыл бұрын

Great idea! Test some popular backpacks like aer or evergoods

@penguinshug151007

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate the new series! How about any Aer bags? The ballistic nylon of their products should stay strong against those hash tests!

@Totototo-nr8dh

Жыл бұрын

Savotta.

@OnyxSinon

Жыл бұрын

beautiful video, could you guys test the durability of aer backpacks? There are no videos out there regarding that so it would be interesting to see

@RodrigodosReis

Жыл бұрын

anything X-Pac

I really enjoyed this video, and I'm really hoping to see more in the future. A couple notes... 1. In the weight test, I think you should have the shoulder straps bearing the weight. I know the top handle could be representative of overall construction, but so do the straps and they are more realistic in use imo. 2. Drop tests are a little silly. Very random. I think testing the laptop compartments might be a little better. Maybe a piece of tempered glass? Start at a lower height... Maybe 3 feet and go up until it breaks? Well done overall. Looking forward to the next installment!

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Hey Kent! We're glad you enjoyed the video!😁 You have some great feedback on our testing methods and we will definitely consider these for our next installment. -Ahmad

@etherealicer

Жыл бұрын

I would also add that you can easily see that the Goruck landed on the back end where the back padding is, while the other two were landing on the front. So, a fairly unequal test.

@yusux

Жыл бұрын

I thought the difference in how a fragile item fares in a drop is a useful experiment but I agree a progressive test would be more helpful. Also a laptop compartment test makes a lot of sense but that sounds like a very expensive test...

@transatlant1c

Жыл бұрын

Maybe also a bucket with an attached shower head might be more representative of rain, rather than just the bucket (to avoid the thicc stream of water on one place at the top)

@transatlant1c

Жыл бұрын

@@yusux you could put a sheet of tempered glass or something in a zip up bag or similar to simulate a laptop perhaps?

1. Water test - I would think a prolonged water spray test (simulating heavy downpour) might be more realistic than dumping a bucket. 2. Weight test - I find back strap stitching is the first place to go if I'm repeatedly carrying a heavy load. I think the back strap is way more important than the carrying strap/handle. 3. Knife test - most thieves "slash" the bag rather than stabbing. Stabbing test is good for a tactical test, though. 4. Drop test - more realistic test would be a laptop-inside drop from a shoulder level. Been there done that.

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your detailed insights 😃 We plan to continue improving our process, and comments like this are super helpful! -Eric

@yusux

Жыл бұрын

yea the bucket test was a bit unrealistic. I would have used a hose with various strengths of pressure to simulate different levels of rainfall.

My humble opinion: While GoRuck is made in my back yard - I would not give up my 5.11 Rush12 for anything. It's been been with me through fires, hurricanes, vacations, and EDC. Given that the Rush12 is 1/3rd of the price of the GR1, I think the Rush12 is the best value. I would question a few of the tests and techniques used - including the drop test. Straps were not tested, MOLLE stitching was not tested well, check the zipper pulls and review of organization pouches. You are testing a tactical bag. Part of tactical is ability to access your weapon. Do these bags have a CCW pouch? (Hint: 1 of these do).

@MrLlama999

3 ай бұрын

I just wish they made a toned down version. I prefer the look of the Goruck. 5.11 definitely is solid.

I enjoyed this very much, a lot of times you see tactical “tacticool” people on youtube who show off their gear but rarely put it thru torture tests. I think it’s worth mentioning that Goruck products are also covered by the SCARS lifetime warranty program which is a great value in itself if you plan of using your gear for hard use.

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking out the video and for your kind words! We had a lot of fun with this one and are excited to explore the concept further 😃 -Eric

@YoitsDro

Жыл бұрын

Examples of these people?

If waterproof is a top priority, I can thoroughly recommend Mission Workshop's Vandal. I've owned one for 12 years and have carried it year-round through winters and springs in Boston. The bag has never leaked and the straps and stitching are still in great shape. Not cheap, but it's been worth the expense.

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion, Doug! 😃 I’ll pass it along. Thanks for your insights! -Eric

@eat_pray_porg8450

Жыл бұрын

I would have to agree. Although I consider myself a fan of the Goruck company and their products, I was using Mission Workshop bags previously for a long time. The Vandal can literally pack a party's worth of groceries inside! One thing I liked about MW's packs was the use of urethane coating on the zippers. MW's packs also use a high quality ballistic nylon for their panels. Whenever there was a downpour, I was confident about how the MW bag would live up to being waterproof. I was fortunate to be working in San Francisco, so I was able to walk down to their retail shop and see these bags upfront. Their bags are definitely pricey, but they are worth the price.

I've owned the 5.11 Rush 12 for about 6 years now and it's survived so well that I'm considering getting a Rush 24. There are certain parts that have aged for sure (ex. the Rush 12 had this suede looking pads towards the back to stop the bag from sliding around but those are worn down. And some of the elastic ex. in the sternum strap is a bit loose) However over all the bag still looks great and nothing critical has failed. Take note I do not give this bag any love. I throw it around everywhere, I toss it to the ground when I'm done, and I don't really care if it snags on something or it rubs against a wall. My only suggestion for future owners is to get a raincover, and maybe some organizers depending on your need.

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your insights! We love hearing how folks use gear. -Eric

Great video guys! The water and knife test was cool, and I loved the drop test because I’m always nervous to drop my backpack when my phone is in it. You should definitely make more videos like this, they’re super fun to watch and very interesting.

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, Sam! 😃 Maybe we can work your mom into some of the tests next time. The more, the merrier! -Eric

I love how Lauren’s personality comes out in this video. More! X-pac VX21 vs VX42 water and abrasion resistance. Any Aer bags.

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

We had a ton of fun making it! 😃 Thanks for the suggestion; I’ll pass it along. -Eric

@bigshel99

Жыл бұрын

the Tortuga Outbreaker (VX21) vs. the Aer Travel Pack X-pac (VX42) would be a great test of this (plus two of my favorite bags 😃)

Would love to see more videos like this! Maybe a comparison between different materials: (1000d, vx21, vx42, x50 etc). Love your content!

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking it out, Bryce 😃 I’ll pass your suggestions along! -Eric

This was very fun to watch! Hope this becomes a series :)

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking it out! Are there any tests or bags you’d like to see featured in the future? 🧐 -Eric

This was a fun watch and I hope you make more travel tests. It can be more than just bag durability, it can also be batteries, flashlights, speakers, ... Maybe consult the community about the tests since I see in the comments a lot of good offers. I'd suggest a more scaled approach, for example: start with water spray, then weak water stream, and then a bucket full.

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your insights 😃 We have loved all the feedback so far and plan to use it to enhance our process moving forward! -Eric

Great video guys ! Hope it's the start of a dedicated series

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! 😃 -Eric

So... the results: They all failed the rain test - best solution is to get a 10 dollar rain cover if you want full waterproof. They all passed the weight test - although you were really measuring the handle, not the straps or bag itself. Test 3 - they all failed - not a great test anyway as others have mentioned. Knife test - ok cool if knifing is part of your every day life - spend the $500 lol. The measure isnt if the GR1 is better than the budget back (of course it is) - is it whether its worth buying 1 and having money left over for a plane ticket.

The GR1 did worst in the abrasion test since it had a huge hole on the front pocket right? The others just had smaller and more minor failures.

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Just the stitching came apart-not the fabric of the bag. In our book, that’s a better result because it’s easy to fix. This is all subjective, but the GR1 was still mostly usable afterward, too! -Eric

@RealMuperSan

Жыл бұрын

@@PackHacker good point. Still, I was surprised the stitching failed on the GR1, and not the others as much.

@kimbee7250

Жыл бұрын

Go ruck has a lifetime warranty, so after a repair is good to go 👍🏻

@TheKoss11

Жыл бұрын

Goruck Will through abrasion will put a hole in your clothes too.

@PointFortyFour

Жыл бұрын

But a large majority of GR1 users don’t even use that front pocket. It’s practically useless when the pack is full. 😂

The next test is messenger bags like TIMBUK2 vs. MISSION WORKSHOP vs. CHORME BAGS vs BAGABOO & vs. MANHATTAN PORTAGE MESSENGER BAG 🎉 Other than that I really like the test on all of them 😊

Great video, with all the tests. Would love to see your reviews on the Mous 25L backpack. I really like to know if it is as sturdy as advertised.

for the dragging test, one way to improve is to add weight into the bag to simulate a person sliding on the road while wearing. I know I wore an aer fit pack in cordura and fell off a skateboard and slid 20 mph for around 10 ft on the asphalt. No damage to the bag or my back.

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Hey Tayo! Thanks for the feedback! We had 20lbs inside the bags, but we’ll consider increasing the load for the next one! 🫡 Also glad to hear your pack was able to protect you. 😅 -Ahmad

Just bought the samurai off amazon based on your review a few days ago. Love it. But small but its a great bag. Thx

So much fun to watch!

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking it out, Lauren! 😊 -Eric

you guys are insane. love it!

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

😜😜😜

Thanks for the review . By the way what is the paper type you are using to check water contact ?

I enjoyed this video. I'm not sure the drop test or the knife drop test are very realistic. I agree with a few others than using a progressive height drop test to see when a piece of glass or similar to test the laptop compartments would be more useful. For the weight test, I know you are stuck for volume of the bag, but I would be curious how they fare with all the weight inside the bag and using the top handle and then shoulder straps. That would better show if the bottom of the bag is solid and also more how the bag would be used to carry thing. I would love to see the looks on people's faces if they saw you dragging the bags behind the car! Looking forward to the next video.

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and for the insights! 😃 We did get a few funny looks 😂 We’ll see you in the next one! -Eric

I have had 5.11 packs for over a decade now. The „Mk1“ Rush 24 as well as the Rush 12. (the first iteration that did not have the laptop compartment) Both have held up incredibly well. None of the two are „closet queens“ that rarely see any use. I have dragged mine through rain and mud, they were tossed around by baggage handlers on two continents, sometimes way overloaded and they just shrugged it off. I have NOT been taking it easy on either of the packs. Probably the best value there is in my opinion. I wouldn’t trade them for anything else and they are still going strong. No broken zippers, no frayed seams, nothing. It’s maybe not „The last backpack you’ll ever buy“. But there won’t be many others. That said, if I travel really light or am on my motorbike, I have recently picked up a „Plan C“ backpack from Hazard4. Not a budget brand by any stretch but from what I can tell the build quality is pretty decent.

Try out one of the velomacchi bags. They’re made for motorcyclists and to survive road rash if you go down at high speeds. The duffel is my current travel backpack. Waterproof too.

Great video! So much of my gear makes impressive claims... I haven''t tested every detail.

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching 😃 -Eric

Would love to see more testing videos like these on bags and accessories (especially if you incorporate the suggestions for better testing that have been given in these comments). I think a video that tests liquid containers for toiletry bags would be great, testing their anti-spill abilities and crush resistance. ✌️

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion! I’ll pass it along. -Eric

Great video and very entertaining to say the least i’ll take the 5.11 if you’re done with it ?

Very entertaining and helpful video. 10/10 🔥🔥🔥

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and the comment! 😃 -Eric

"You won't have 105 pounds in your pack" Light infantry enters the chat

I love this - you should test other water resistant and cordura ballistic bags - aer?

Updated Comment: The 5.11 Rush series is no joke. My stepson just ditched his motorcycle on the highway due to another driver and on his back was the Rush24 from 5.11 - a few scratches but no holes, in an accident, at 50mph. It probably saved him in some degree, and his helmet. I personally would put the Rush series ABOVE the GR1, because of the design and durability. The Rush series Tier straps allow for multiple packs to be connected vs. only one - at all.

Great video! 🔥

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Thanks 😃

Nice testing 👍

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking it out! 😃 -Eric

On drag test since only damage was stitching undone that would be a very cheap repair and fix.

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Yup, you’re right! 😃 -Eric

What a fun video to watch! I can't even imagine anyone giving you a 'dislike' here. Thanks for giving me lots of smiles today guys!

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching 😃 We’ll see you in the next one, Nathan! -Eric

Great video idea

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching 😃 -Eric

Loved this video

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! 😃 We’ll see you in the next one. -Eric

This was a fun video!

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching 😃 -Eric

5.11 Rush 24 all day .had mine since the first week they came one I've hammered it,nothings failed Still looks great. I've tried and have others at all prices but always end up with old Faithfull

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing 😃 Sounds like it’s the winner for you! -Eric

@s23wd1v3r

Жыл бұрын

@@PackHacker thanks for your ongoing reviews ,great to see people who are honest with critical feedback much appreciated great job guys

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

You’re making us blush! Thanks for your kind words 😃 -Eric

I love everything about this. 😆

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, Rachel! -Eric

Great video! Really enjoyed it. For next test maybe include Bach TRAVEL PRO

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion! I’ll pass it along 😃 -Eric

insightful video.

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! 😃 -Eric

I have a question with the water test. How were the seams where the panels are sewn together? I have a bag that is pretty water resistant, but after sustained rain the bottom corners of the bag started to seep in as the water dripped off the outside of the bag there.

Please test popular consumer brands: Thule, Herschel, North Face, Ogio. I'd definitely love to see how well the Bellroys do, too. I think it would be more fair if the bags tested were made of the same material, comparing a 1000D Cordura bag to a 400D polyester bag for example just ain't fair. I know this is a "budget bag" vs "expensive bag" comparison though.

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the insights! 😃 We hope to continue improving our process. -Eric

i wanna see a mystery ranch, a triple aught design do these too!

These tests felt more like a gimmick than a real life or practical useful test. An empty bag with a mug drop? - sure - why no, everyone just carried around a just a mug in their $500 backpack and happen to drop it from an over pass. This is a tactical bag - so, define what is a tactical bag, its use case and then perform the test. The only 2 tests that actually made a little bit of sense - not full sense was the drag test and knife puncture test. Yes in real life, if you are carrying a backpack, it might slide down hill while hiking or get dragged by a trolley at an ariport. Puncture test - in case your folding knife or a fork poked out of the bag ... what tests you guys performed - seems very much like a gimmick.

Great Video. I don't think it is fair to 5.11 and the Wakizashi to put them up against the GR1. 😉

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, Joshua! 😃 -Eric

More of these videos,please!🙏🌹

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment, Wesam! -Eric

How did the laptop compartments do in the water test?

Can you do the water test on Aer X-PAC versions vs regular? I think it’d be helpful for people deciding if it’s worth the upgrade.

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion! I’ll pass it along 😃 -Eric

is the goruck 500D or 1000D? a more scientific approach for the knife stabbing. hang the bag with the scale. same weight each bag. stab up with the same poundage very cool test! more please

I love your new look

Can anyone tell me please what stand they using to hang the bags?

Good idea test

Tbh when you pay $300 for a GR1, it isn't simply for tough materials, it's for the _lifetime warranty_ and the meticulous design. You pay more for something that is nice, not simply to have a bag to carry things. 90% of GoRuck owners probably won't utilize the toughness, they just want something made meticulously in USA

Lauren’s tattoos are so badass 🙌🏻

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

👊💪

Helpful video, Drop test was kind of odd. For the knife test, IF I am in a situation that would lead me getting attacked by a knife wielder maniac. At least I know the bag will survive while I most likely won't.

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, Tommy! 😃 -Eric

* DRAMATIC RE-ENACTMENT *

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

We wanted to make sure everyone knew that part wasn’t real 😂 Thanks for checking it out! -Eric

Lauren, I love your boots! Can you share what brand and model they are?

Hi. Interesting idea. Why not use spray test for bags that admit water resistant, water proof, and weatherproof bag instead of bags that doesn't advertise this ability? I tend to use rolltop bag for water proof / weather proof / water resistant bags since I don't trust any zips. Can try these test for example on Alpaka bagpack (adversited as weatherproof) specially since how the water bottle area was designed? Will it cause water to sip in into the bag in case of rain? I think such test is very important to this channel since this kind of test not something we can do or verify at bag shops.

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your insights 😃 They’re appreciated! -Eric

I'm starting to think pack hackers hates tactical bags, the first video I've seen with tactical bags is a video of them destroying tactical bags lol

@PackHacker

8 ай бұрын

😂 We have full reviews of many tactical bags! 🤙

Disappointing about the rain performance on GR1 😮

@McAero08

Жыл бұрын

In the real work the GR1 does soak a bit but generally keeps the stuff inside dry. I am more shocked about the front slant pocket. Assuming that was a new GR1 it show the issue with the American manufacturing at Goruck.

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

As McAero08 said, it isn’t very common for your pack to get bombarded with water, as it did in our test. If you want to know more about the pack in general, check out the full review! packhacker.com/travel-gear/goruck/gr1/ -Eric

@RealMuperSan

Жыл бұрын

@@PackHacker true. I have a gr1, and 15 and two 10 L bullets. Just hoping for better performance after spending that $$ 😀

@RealMuperSan

Жыл бұрын

@@McAero08 yea, the slant pocket was a big surprise.

@etherealicer

Жыл бұрын

I feel the design of this Velcro opening is a fail. This will leak even in modest rain. It will actually be worse when on a back, hanging from the straps (especially with heavier load) or if it is carried by the handle.

Love the idea. Maybe can consider next video for others fabric, like X-Pac to test the durability and waterproofing.

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking it out! I’ll pass along your suggestion 😃 -Eric

Did you send the GR1 to SCARS for repair?

Why would you weight test from the grab handle? It should have been rigged by the straps to test the yoke and strap stitching on each.

ULA dragonfly, Aer TP3 small, pacsafe venture X, pacsafe vibe 325

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your suggestions; I’ll pass them along! -Eric

Except for water resistance pretty stupid scope for testing. Things that matter are the carrying system with realistic weights, maybe a little overload, and normal abrasion/tear resistance, definitely not being dragged around by a car.

I shouldn’t drive with my GR1 sliding against the road: duly noted

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

Deuter, Osprey and northface next please

If it's raining, maybe take an umbrella?

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

☔️☔️☔️

Whatever damage the GR has, you can send it back and with the Scars warranty they’ll fix it for free…

basically dont pay 400 dollars for a goruck cause in real life situations a 100 dollar pack will resist at least 5 years of daily use.

@oxygenenjoyer1712

Жыл бұрын

Unless you want the gr1

The weight test should be done from the shoulder straps not the top handle.

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your insights! We plan to continue refining the process 😃 -Eric

What microphone is she wearing?

Hardcore

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

😤💪

@astsemenuk6546

Жыл бұрын

@@PackHacker mean good

You get what you've paid for.

Solid fail. I like the words you chose.

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking it out 😃 -Eric

Next time maybe you could test this in a green area so the water is not wasted? It just feels so wrong that in 2022 we still spill water reckless like this only to test some backpacks

@Kobalta

Жыл бұрын

And maybe to avoid buying and wrecking plastic heavy products in unrealistic tests for fun, think about the full lifecycle, the now even wasted pollution during the production and transportation of these backpacks. Now (and in the next few hundreds of years for the plastic) what will happen with these test subjects?

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Our goal for this video, in addition to making something fun to watch, was to help our viewers make an informed decision about purchasing a bag that fits their use case! By helping folks choose a suitable pack, we hope to ensure they buy a bag that both satisfies their needs and lasts them longer. We appreciate your concerns for sustainability and will keep them under consideration! -Eric

@cocoyillo

Жыл бұрын

@@PackHacker I do like the reviews and durability tests, and yours are great but they would be even better making them environmentally friendly, at least the water part is easier to solve by doing it next to a tree or some grass

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for that insight! We appreciate you reaching out, as we didn’t think about that. -Eric

We get it. Packhacker hates "tactical" bags. I'd love to see the same tests against the darling brands like Bellroy and Fjallraven etc.

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Not at all. Tom lived out of a tactical bag for 2 years of travel when starting Pack Hacker. More about it here: packhacker.com/blog/general/everything-you-need-to-travel-the-world-in-one-backpack/

@persildaz5090

Жыл бұрын

@@PackHacker Thats fair enough 😄 but who doesn't want to see a Kanken dragged across the deck to destruction!

@PackHacker

Жыл бұрын

Great idea! We’d love to test less tactical-focused packs like this in the future, so I'll pass your suggestion along.