Chris Patten's patience is really admirable - 陶傑's way of talking tends to be overly florid - or should I say - pretentious? - and it really tries one's patience, and sometimes the effect of what he's trying to convey is sacrificed as a result. Yet Chris Patten here most excellently was able to figure out what he was on about, while at the same time demonstrating the power of simplicity. 陶傑 should be reminded that interviews are not venues for displaying one's handle on a language....
@liufengyuan1232
4 жыл бұрын
😂
@ericlam6017
2 жыл бұрын
Totally
@terrytang5367
2 жыл бұрын
I stopped watching because of the way Tao spoke! I feel embarrassed just to watch.
@masquerade41120
2 жыл бұрын
tbf he talks like that in Chinese also, he's always pretentious in his own shows. Not saying it's so in private, which I have no idea about and is none of my business.
@rage8kage
Жыл бұрын
Hes an arse
@whspore95346 жыл бұрын
In the independent media the interviewer has to be provocative albeit being polite at the same time. Chip has done a good job in this aspect. Perhaps a decisive producer is needed for the occasion so the interviewer can concentrate on his job. The translation into Chinese is competent though some nuances have been lost. Naturally you don't expect people behind those junk mails could understand a bit of the content of this interview.
@hungchungchang61546 жыл бұрын
彭定康分析沒錯,周南是個頭腦僵化極左的激進官僚,是體制的寶貝。
@rongwang8888
4 жыл бұрын
Hung Chung Chang 周南是个学识很深的人,至少他通晓英语和法语。
@ericlam60172 жыл бұрын
彭定康勲爵 is a gentleman. He didn't betray us and won't betray us in the future. He know how evil the CCP is more than the HK people. WE miss you. Qur 彭定康勲爵 Wish you doing all is good. May God bless you and your family. HK people love you always
ToKit lived & studied 4 years university level, speaking in Cantonese? --- I have a hard time hearing what ToKit was saying.
@ziyou5889
2 жыл бұрын
That's because your English listening level was not up to the standard required for this level of discussion\exchanges.
@gamingcrisp3785 жыл бұрын
He shared so everyone of you can watch None of you have chance to talk to him.
@fsteh7873 жыл бұрын
Jerry Kaw, if this is his name, it will be great if all Hong Kongers would read what was mentioned by founding father of Singapore the late Lee Kwan Yew over his comments on Hong Kong.
Tao should ask why Chris Patten didn't do anything for HKong' Housing issues during his time as HKong Governor during early 1990s. Housing Issues cant be solved overnight. It should be the TOP priority for the past British Governor in the 1970s, so it would not be at this hopeless situation as of now.
@goodwaylearningmrben49762 жыл бұрын
非常懷念回歸前的香港!!!!!!
@Little-Peanut
2 жыл бұрын
Me too
@user-wj6xz9mu7d
2 жыл бұрын
感觉那个时代的香港好精彩~~~
@kahomes
2 жыл бұрын
香港只是恢复一个城市的本来功能,之前香港是因为吸纳全球最优秀华人。现在人才,都北上了。香港恢复而已
@daniellim2888
Жыл бұрын
i wont used the term 'back to', rather 'taken over'. because Hongkong island & Kowloon was surrendered to British. dnt mind New Territory, because it was lease to Beitish for 99 years.
@bunniesbehave93334 жыл бұрын
听陶先生讲英语感觉像在读一篇优美的文章! 说明向对方表达出极大的尊重!
@leesophie2678
4 жыл бұрын
過頭了
@futurefighter2008
2 жыл бұрын
i beg your pardon?
@modern531
2 жыл бұрын
過頭了x2
@donkruuz39035 жыл бұрын
Thought To Kit was very good in this interview. Not sure why the comments.
@rage8kage
Жыл бұрын
If you see a dog. You call it a dog
@kenleechungtat6 жыл бұрын
彭定康 is bored by 陶傑's over decorated sentences that leads to nowhere.
@zqlove2009
6 жыл бұрын
Ken Lee he tried so hard to speak English in a very “advanced “way, I can feel his pain of been afraid of looking down. Xoxo
@canman5060
6 жыл бұрын
He is a graduate from Warwick in English Literature after all !
@canman5060
6 жыл бұрын
I don't like 'flowering' English either.This is why I never pass my English O level !
@kenleechungtat
6 жыл бұрын
Lar M He doesn't seem to understand that simplicity brings power.
@yusumnn2007
6 жыл бұрын
after sentenceS we don't put leadS.
@ytlytl19593 жыл бұрын
Thank you Lord Patten
@rq16893 жыл бұрын
year 2021 saw this video, very impressed
@chungchingluk75114 жыл бұрын
重要的是....他說的話確實是他自己所想
@evelyntsui30055 жыл бұрын
Didn’t you know ,Lu Ping was graduated from St. John’s University of Shanghai. He was educated with western mind!
@canman5060
5 жыл бұрын
But he was brainwashed after Shanghai was raid by Mao's Red Tide IN 1949 !
Complex sentence is only good for the eyes, never to the ears. Should use simple, direct & short sentences for instant exchanges.
@MadOfLove
6 жыл бұрын
ONCE YOU SPEAK, SPEAK AS SHOT. When I write, wish you see as my....
@900ml5
5 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't you use "impresse"?
@longbighard
5 жыл бұрын
@@900ml5 impressE? lmao
@shypxh
4 жыл бұрын
可惜了,心态失衡,远没有他用汉语时,点评的一针见血,拳拳到肉。人无完人啊
@jordanhoo20046 жыл бұрын
老彭很自然,而老陶却怪怪的...
@fenglin36166 жыл бұрын
I quite agree
@yipyip2020yip3 жыл бұрын
Time would let us know who really did care the people of Hong Kong. Thank you Chris Patten, the last colonial governor of Hong Kong. Best wishes to you and your family.
评论区里被一些不懂装懂又以为自己很厉害的小粉红哗众取宠。看来陶杰又一次印证了鲁迅的说法了。 " 你们看你们看是不是民族的悲哀。" ~~ (英语:Lord)勋爵是一种敬称,主要用于翻译英语中对有爵位的贵族的泛称。 陶杰 : Hello Chris, can I call you Chris instead of Lord on behalf of Hong Kong... ( 你好,Chris,我可以代表香港称你为 Chris 而不是 勲爵 ) 指的是你名字上而已的称呼。 当然行,勲爵只有我太太才这么称呼...你们爱怎么称呼都行的意思,( 表明谦虚和友善,民主和开放的思想。) 从陶杰表情上,也许那种含蓄尴尬不失礼的笑声,引来不少网民的攻击。 当代西方民文明礼仪之邦的文明国际友好交流,陶杰以香港人身份开头第一句话立场鲜明以不求跪来称呼彭的英文名,虽然众多港民有时称彭定康为"肥彭" “画公仔画出墙” 这大家都心理有数啦 ! 看到视频的最尾端,陶杰用友谊慰问提及彭的新书内容里对于健康和年老生死离别的观点,往积极乐观态度去想更何况川普与你也仅仅相差两岁, 彭也同样尴尬态度笑了...
@kc28792 жыл бұрын
Tao’s attitude at starting point was quite arrogant, not feeling well for anyone. Call somebody’s official title is a basic gesture in any social platform. And he has less knowledge about HK’s economic structure, quoting “no manufacturing only property market, no IT...” Chris Patten knows well about HK, HK people manage factories in mainland China, just with another form in doing industry. People only notice the financial market but the truth is over 300K SMEs in HK, parts of them are running traditional electronic,garment, toys, watch & clocks, mostly with factories and export all over the world (in the name of Made in China).
会说话的狗就懂文明了?这些人应该被挂在玉林狗肉节的铁钩上才对。还有哈 你也别用简体中文回复了,用你的母语英文吧,或是繁体中文也行 我看得懂 也闻得到你身上的尿骚味。支持祸害大中华言行和媚外的东西不配用汉语,呸!看看你的昵称就知道你应该就是所谓文明的产物了,堂堂一个中国人取什么英文名?没人叫你进来看我的留言评论,不舒服就滚远点,别弄脏我的评论区,那么多点赞👍的就你这么一粒老鼠屎,che pezza di merda sei 🤮!
@ruithisway6 жыл бұрын
见到主人的陶杰终于憋出 为黑而黑的那些长句,彭定康都受不了了
@hkleehk1
6 жыл бұрын
Complex sentences is a taboo in dialogues to make comprehension more difficult. OK in written English as readers can do due adjustment, by truncating into smaller parts, and pause to recapitulate, or re-read.
Chip Tsao tries very hard to speak good English. Well, if you are a good speaker, you don't need to try hard, you can talk in a casual manner to bring up important points every now and then.
@alfredleung3647
2 жыл бұрын
Boon Kiat Yeow@ of course his English is not as good as Mr. Josiah Lau whose major was not in English but in Economics when he studied in Hong Kong University long time ago.
It was an interview in 2017. Mr. Tao said some of them were got rid .....because of the Chinese government....... However, after 2019, what can Mr,. Tao say?
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作为大陆人,我们一直被教育的是:香港是同胞,可惜与自己的祖国隔离了150年,九七回归是一件非常高兴的事情,直到交接前几天,我兴奋地盼望着七月一日的回归,我一个走的比较近的香港同事说,你们为什么不能让我们香港人静静地渡过这个日子。我突然才意识到,大陆和香港是完全两种不同的mindset,我不能以自己的想法去衡量香港人当时的心情和感受。二十过去了,香港工作和生活的经验,渐渐地了解了香港的社会,每次大陆出差回来,有一种说不出来的自由的感觉。普普通通的香港人,很多是一代二代逃到香港的大陆人,他们都非常乐于助人,很多人有信仰,基督教或佛教,没有大陆的人的雄心大志,养家糊口,认真做事,岁月静好的感觉。香港由于新闻自由,对大陆的报道负面新闻也多(坏事传万里)对大陆的司法制度不信任在这次反送中游行是一个总爆发。而这次很多大陆人却只会站在官方的立场上辱骂港人,用自己扭曲的价值观去看待香港人对司法腐败和集权体制的抗争,想想香港在英国统治的一百五十年中,一直充当了大陆人民的避风港,本是同根生,相煎何太急,普通民众本应相互尊重,相互扶持,却一下占到统治者的立场上,大量把港人置于死地而后快的狂言妄语和谩骂,思维模式中完全没有人性之善信!非常痛心!
@mariaferry1374
Жыл бұрын
We cannot put Hong Kong and China together as people in Hong Kong had adapted an English culture and people in China are very closed minded
@hildatsang6795
Жыл бұрын
難得你明白香港人當日返送中是什麼一回事,莫講話大陸人去站在官方立場罵香港人,令香港人更痛恨是香港人(藍絲)是非不分為政府說話
@michaelchu6297
Жыл бұрын
大陸沒有新聞自由,大部分群眾很容易被官媒控制,而且愛國電影戰狼看得太多,一下子就亢奮了😂。香港也差不多沒有新聞自由了
@user-ks6px2xz6j
Жыл бұрын
@@hildatsang6795 这说明150年的殖民教育教坏了香港人,中央政府生收回主权就应该对香港施措中华民族教育才对,迫送中表明西方社会亡我中华贼心不死,乱我中华是他们毕生的追求,面对这些叛国贼要加大治罪力度
@zelotom6726
11 ай бұрын
@@michaelchu6297 唉,真为香港感到可惜
當年還未回歸前,我小時候在香港一個市埸和這英國胖叔叔.握了握手,大而厚的手並且很溫暖,長大後才知道這是香港最後的港督,為什麼我愛97年以前的香港,這就是為什麼
@TM-yw8tk
2 жыл бұрын
奴才像
@MrBing1949
Жыл бұрын
@@TM-yw8tk 在說自己嗎?😂
@berylbai6354
Жыл бұрын
🤮😈
@yipzoe3865
Жыл бұрын
@@TM-yw8tk 你才是中共奴才,為甚麼殖民地年代,只有大陸人偷渡來香港,沒有香港人偷渡返大陸?
@yipzoe3865
Жыл бұрын
@@berylbai6354 殖民地年代,只有大陸人偷渡來香港,沒有香港人偷渡返大陸,已反映那個管治好些
領袖風範常在民眾心目中⋯陶傑先生🙏🏼&彭定康先生🙏🏼謝謝𠉴位分享
彭定康港督永遠都係真香港人嘅港督大人。👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@wewe-zz2wr
5 ай бұрын
彭定康永遠是你爸爸。
@wewe-zz2wr
5 ай бұрын
香港政府看到了嗎?賣國賊在和英國鬼彭定康交流反香港...!你們看了有什麼感受?賣國賊該不該抓和永遠禁止進入香港。
@aln-xs2tc
5 ай бұрын
@wewe-zz2wr 很遺憾根本沒人理你這小螺螺講的話。
我們的彭定康先生,多謝你為香港人發聲和付出的努力😘😘
彭督風度翩翩親民盡力為香港,離開廿五年依然受香港人愛戴。這才是領袖風範
@Dbc-gn4yy
10 ай бұрын
你爱带是你的事,别来代表我们中国香港人。
@18kc18
10 ай бұрын
@@Dbc-gn4yy 鵲巢鳩佔的強國蝗蟲,中你老母
@aln-xs2tc
5 ай бұрын
@@Dbc-gn4yy支蝗蟲就是令人反胃
@emmywu5450
3 ай бұрын
@@Dbc-gn4yy寫殘體字嘅大陸人唔知醜扮咩香港人呀
文明高水准的對話,两位真喺現代文明人
@yuentong9463
Жыл бұрын
兩只披着羊皮的狼👍👍
@waihi9106
Жыл бұрын
@@yuentong9463你認識狼?
Chris Patten's patience is really admirable - 陶傑's way of talking tends to be overly florid - or should I say - pretentious? - and it really tries one's patience, and sometimes the effect of what he's trying to convey is sacrificed as a result. Yet Chris Patten here most excellently was able to figure out what he was on about, while at the same time demonstrating the power of simplicity. 陶傑 should be reminded that interviews are not venues for displaying one's handle on a language....
@liufengyuan1232
4 жыл бұрын
😂
@ericlam6017
2 жыл бұрын
Totally
@terrytang5367
2 жыл бұрын
I stopped watching because of the way Tao spoke! I feel embarrassed just to watch.
@masquerade41120
2 жыл бұрын
tbf he talks like that in Chinese also, he's always pretentious in his own shows. Not saying it's so in private, which I have no idea about and is none of my business.
@rage8kage
Жыл бұрын
Hes an arse
In the independent media the interviewer has to be provocative albeit being polite at the same time. Chip has done a good job in this aspect. Perhaps a decisive producer is needed for the occasion so the interviewer can concentrate on his job. The translation into Chinese is competent though some nuances have been lost. Naturally you don't expect people behind those junk mails could understand a bit of the content of this interview.
彭定康分析沒錯,周南是個頭腦僵化極左的激進官僚,是體制的寶貝。
@rongwang8888
4 жыл бұрын
Hung Chung Chang 周南是个学识很深的人,至少他通晓英语和法语。
彭定康勲爵 is a gentleman. He didn't betray us and won't betray us in the future. He know how evil the CCP is more than the HK people. WE miss you. Qur 彭定康勲爵 Wish you doing all is good. May God bless you and your family. HK people love you always
倆位先生你們好!彭定康前港督永遠是香港人嘅好港督關心香港人.非常感謝港督彭定康先生.祝福港督彭定康先生身體健康!幸福快樂.非常感謝陶傑先生訪問港督彭定康!再次多謝!
陶生在真正的政客面前,显得轻浮了。老彭的确有水准,字字珠玑,应答得体,言之有物
@abc-nv3uk
4 жыл бұрын
一个卖嘴的而已,不比卖逼的高尚!
@tjq1888
4 жыл бұрын
狂龍 😂
@alanchen7061
4 жыл бұрын
狂龍 你能卖什么? 卖血?
@user-qn4ji8cw7j
4 жыл бұрын
人地只是来推销新书 谁跟你推心置腹 你又没权利
@dawnmokmok5
2 жыл бұрын
只懂造作
彭定康对鲁平的态度,足见一个绅士的风范。英国文化很值得推广。
陶杰,这么多年我一直都在寻找现实版的科林斯(BBC 傲慢与偏见), 今天我终于找到了, 你还真是个人才!
@yeezi5884
4 жыл бұрын
真的耶!太他姥姥的像了,屈尊卑微的奴才样和平时自视清高,高人一等的丑陋样子反差太大了。
@hz3169
4 жыл бұрын
哈哈哈,太他么像了
我是大陆人,但接受是英式教育,所以作为我来说,亲英也很正常,一直到现在我还记得每年女王诞辰我们都会放假,相信香港也有很多人跟我一样。
@paulinelaihk
5 жыл бұрын
Justin Xu 最喜歡羅蘭姐扮英女皇
@user-hongkongnews
5 жыл бұрын
还有一般死刑都会被女皇特赦
@user-th7cp6fb8x
5 жыл бұрын
不愧是奴隶精神,哈哈,甘心认封建君王
@trumpdonaldjohn4993
5 жыл бұрын
陈苦苦 就知道会有你这种傻逼来喷粪。了解什么叫封建什么是独裁吗?
@user-th7cp6fb8x
5 жыл бұрын
@@trumpdonaldjohn4993 有区别嘛?养一群寄生虫和养共产党有区别吗?共产党好歹会创造财富呐
ToKit lived & studied 4 years university level, speaking in Cantonese? --- I have a hard time hearing what ToKit was saying.
@ziyou5889
2 жыл бұрын
That's because your English listening level was not up to the standard required for this level of discussion\exchanges.
He shared so everyone of you can watch None of you have chance to talk to him.
Jerry Kaw, if this is his name, it will be great if all Hong Kongers would read what was mentioned by founding father of Singapore the late Lee Kwan Yew over his comments on Hong Kong.
陶先生这段采访,彭并没有讲出格的话,可见英国人在香港问题上还是很谨慎的,兼听则明,听听陶先生所代表另一个声音,也能更全面了解香港大众的心声
@blessedcheflim8579
4 жыл бұрын
Tao should ask why Chris Patten didn't do anything for HKong' Housing issues during his time as HKong Governor during early 1990s. Housing Issues cant be solved overnight. It should be the TOP priority for the past British Governor in the 1970s, so it would not be at this hopeless situation as of now.
非常懷念回歸前的香港!!!!!!
@Little-Peanut
2 жыл бұрын
Me too
@user-wj6xz9mu7d
2 жыл бұрын
感觉那个时代的香港好精彩~~~
@kahomes
2 жыл бұрын
香港只是恢复一个城市的本来功能,之前香港是因为吸纳全球最优秀华人。现在人才,都北上了。香港恢复而已
@daniellim2888
Жыл бұрын
i wont used the term 'back to', rather 'taken over'. because Hongkong island & Kowloon was surrendered to British. dnt mind New Territory, because it was lease to Beitish for 99 years.
听陶先生讲英语感觉像在读一篇优美的文章! 说明向对方表达出极大的尊重!
@leesophie2678
4 жыл бұрын
過頭了
@futurefighter2008
2 жыл бұрын
i beg your pardon?
@modern531
2 жыл бұрын
過頭了x2
Thought To Kit was very good in this interview. Not sure why the comments.
@rage8kage
Жыл бұрын
If you see a dog. You call it a dog
彭定康 is bored by 陶傑's over decorated sentences that leads to nowhere.
@zqlove2009
6 жыл бұрын
Ken Lee he tried so hard to speak English in a very “advanced “way, I can feel his pain of been afraid of looking down. Xoxo
@canman5060
6 жыл бұрын
He is a graduate from Warwick in English Literature after all !
@canman5060
6 жыл бұрын
I don't like 'flowering' English either.This is why I never pass my English O level !
@kenleechungtat
6 жыл бұрын
Lar M He doesn't seem to understand that simplicity brings power.
@yusumnn2007
6 жыл бұрын
after sentenceS we don't put leadS.
Thank you Lord Patten
year 2021 saw this video, very impressed
重要的是....他說的話確實是他自己所想
Didn’t you know ,Lu Ping was graduated from St. John’s University of Shanghai. He was educated with western mind!
@canman5060
5 жыл бұрын
But he was brainwashed after Shanghai was raid by Mao's Red Tide IN 1949 !
不過很明顯,雖然曹前輩有在英國長期居住的經驗,然而他還是不了解英國人的思維模式也沒有英國佬的幽默感。
@alfredleung3647
2 жыл бұрын
完全沒有英國人的氣質,即使老彭在港逗留多五十年,也不一定被同化而具有港人氣質。他的語氣稍缺風度,對受訪者步步進迫,不留餘地,令人不安。畢竟,他是前特首對九七前的香港多少有些德政,既是牛津學人,兼在政界浸淫多年,一手由英政府培養出來。相反,另一方懂得英國文化多少,所學英國語文到什麼水平,一開口人家便知斤兩。論學識修養,祇是一個晚輩,英國人與中國人相同之處,就是尊重輩份。若明白這一點,在英國無論升學或就業,都是成功的第一步。
3:45,老彭的回应非常机智和得体
@cwtsang6756
2 жыл бұрын
是(3:45)
彭:乖乖,我只是工作需要。哥们你是真滴拼,全身心投入!
謝謝你!!天不怕, 地不怕,知法犯法都不怕! 起底最怕怕!
陶杰太low了,说鲁平先死。彭离开纠正了,并且赞扬了鲁。这叫政治家。
@yannwu9655
3 жыл бұрын
文人刻薄
@alfredleung3647
2 жыл бұрын
這是政治智慧,祇有政客才懂。無論這方面以及英國文化、語文,老彭都給他上課悪補。如劉家傑上場會較好,因他的一囗流利牛津口音,好合老彭囗味。
很高質量精彩的訪談完全沒有多餘的廢話 陶的英語很流暢。 不虧才子。
@blessedcheflim8579
2 жыл бұрын
thats HK' English standard 😂
宜家2023,睇番真係唏噓,生娘不及養娘好。
Get healthy and happiness days 2022 from hongkongers hong Kong🕺💖💃💃💖🕺🕺💖💃💃💖🕺
这个视频真的是把陶杰的立场暴露无遗了,每个提问都想往批判中国的方向引。也难怪,他从小到大受到的教育,工作的经历都是西方的。
@farmers740
4 жыл бұрын
怪不得我们一直批判中国的地富反坏右,原来是因为我们从小接受西方的马克思主义教育。
陶杰先生应该是非常享受英殖民时期的香港,即使香港已回归20多年,依然不忘让曾经的主子指点香港问题,这流露出的殖民奴性可见一斑。
@wudean6585
4 жыл бұрын
我很惊异你的无知,殖民地时期的香港何尝有过一天民主???
@infinityandbeyond9497
4 жыл бұрын
@@wudean6585 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@user-rg7ot8pz3c
4 жыл бұрын
人家是英國人隨時可以去英國,你眼紅不來。
@Keihk
4 жыл бұрын
留意陶傑說的話才好, 亦刺了幾下肥彭. 言論自由不可怕的.
@user-ll2xr7vt2w
4 жыл бұрын
确实是,我看过很多陶杰的节目,一般节目陶杰都是坐在座位上上身后仰,这次和彭定康谈话,陶杰身体前倾,而且称呼lord。
魯平先生歿於2015年,1992年破格拔擢彭定康「千古罪人」一職。訪談質量很高,也許吧在大陸有很多陶傑先生這樣才器的人,但是沒出一個彭定康這樣的人
@haru007
3 жыл бұрын
大陸如今如傑先生水平者也是鳳毛麟角啊
Tsao acted like an excited little puppy but seemed didn't get enough petting or say responding from hsi lord. How sad was that?
我最喜歡的兩位!😍😍😍👍👍👍
Operation Overlord!Good idea!!! I am sure the people in HK will love it!!
我也長期生活在英國,然而我發現我的英文是越來越差了。。。
每次都不忍看 每次總被濃厚的無力感籠罩 但實在 很高興聽到看到肥彭現身說法說香港 能看一次就多一次吧
@BenChan-st7lr
6 жыл бұрын
Gober Almo
@hankwood1478
5 жыл бұрын
I sadly miss the time when Chris Patten was still the Governor of Hong Kong, even though I was only in HK for his first year before I went to England.
坐相就显示出心虚,毫无大将之風。。毕竟是個靠嘴吃飯的名嘴而已,对他的評論,就當作飯後餘興,還相當不錯,不要太認真!
陶桀d英语真系。。。又想华丽地使用复杂长句,又想用高级词汇去impressed Chris,结果断句同口音都有问题。
@hkleehk1
6 жыл бұрын
Complex sentence is only good for the eyes, never to the ears. Should use simple, direct & short sentences for instant exchanges.
@MadOfLove
6 жыл бұрын
ONCE YOU SPEAK, SPEAK AS SHOT. When I write, wish you see as my....
@900ml5
5 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't you use "impresse"?
@longbighard
5 жыл бұрын
@@900ml5 impressE? lmao
@shypxh
4 жыл бұрын
可惜了,心态失衡,远没有他用汉语时,点评的一针见血,拳拳到肉。人无完人啊
老彭很自然,而老陶却怪怪的...
I quite agree
Time would let us know who really did care the people of Hong Kong. Thank you Chris Patten, the last colonial governor of Hong Kong. Best wishes to you and your family.
不要把”才子“这个词继续用于陶傑,名不符实。感觉这个视频与陶傑其它视频风格大不同,他的骄傲感全无,蜕变成一个低三下四奴才,装模作样的采访自己的主子,让人挺恶心的........
@yurencui5213
4 жыл бұрын
哈哈,何必说穿呢
@silasli3872
4 жыл бұрын
舔狗,舔到最后一无所有😂
@wangxigar4528
4 жыл бұрын
真是一个洋奴,还盼着总督归来,你们假惺惺争取的双普选瞬间就不要了么?只要是洋人当爹
@xjw7587
4 жыл бұрын
陶杰的奴性特别强,最开始连自己的坐姿都把握不好,一副卑躬屈膝的样子。
@birene4278
4 жыл бұрын
好一隻狗奴才🐕🤣
陶的姿态一直想下跪来着,后来觉得太过,就放弃了
@puffvape299
4 жыл бұрын
我也看出来了,虽然一个人坐姿太靠后显得傲慢,但是这陶杰坐姿也太靠前了,就像一个奴才,被主子要求坐下以后不敢坐实了,只好身体向前倾。
@user-rg7ot8pz3c
4 жыл бұрын
你連拍村長馬屁的資格也輪不到你這SB!
@wyzhang871
4 жыл бұрын
@@user-rg7ot8pz3c 你这是想拍谁的马屁?你是哪个村的,我又不认识你们村长,逻辑有些混乱啊
@user-fx1kp7yf3v
4 жыл бұрын
大頭仔 墙外像你这样的智商太低了
之前看过陶在新加坡与许知远的访谈,再比照这个,对待英国人和对待中国人简直是两幅面孔,真的很恶
@Usernina123
5 жыл бұрын
杨轶 本来就是不同性质的对话好吗
@andrew6713
4 жыл бұрын
奴性是不容易丢掉的。
@mikezhang7646
4 жыл бұрын
看来陶杰先生也并不是像别人所说的那样和别人交谈时都很傲慢无礼的样子,他说他妈生他这个鬼样子,明显是让他老妈替他背锅嘛。最起码陶杰先生看到英国主子还是毕恭毕敬的礼貌谦逊的
@user-ri9bl9qk3s
4 жыл бұрын
Mike Zhang 陶杰可是代表绝大多数的香港人的态度,这也应证祖先的那句名言,夷狄!禽兽也!畏威而不怀德。港人或则说港奴人只是新时代的奴隶而已
@liuxiaobin3881
4 жыл бұрын
跟胡锡进的访谈也是 两幅嘴脸
彭定康,香港最後一個有良知的領導人
@marksiu5074
2 жыл бұрын
哦,是嗎?🥱
@tongchan131
2 жыл бұрын
@@marksiu5074 9 9 itxl081879v
看了陶杰的说话方式和内容 就可以更好的理解什么叫斯德哥尔摩综合征了
@henryhou5146
4 жыл бұрын
验证了周星驰那句话。
@batcherlic
4 жыл бұрын
陶傑已經病入膏肓, 中咗斯德哥爾摩綜合症後期, '屎都可以摸',成個狗樣,極之核突。
thx 陶生,珍貴片段
Great interview
没发现他经常会在镜头面前整理自己的领带吗?心理角度出发,他很在乎个人形象,既然接受英式教育,思想也是Gentlemen风格。概论:他的分析很有新鲜感,但局限性明显。
對比陶傑和彭定康,陶傑顯得淺薄和做作,彭定康令人尊重!
@junyuan1428
5 жыл бұрын
英国人的狡猾罢了,心里不知道怎么笑,看看我养出来的狗,你觉得你邻居家的恶狗叫的时候,站在后面的主人会跟着一起恶叫么?样子总要装的
@chorwong6244
5 жыл бұрын
彭定康先生罵人很有技術 首先 帶你遊街 兜兩個圈 鬧了你 你也察覺不到 ,英國前首相 那位 貝理雅先生亦是口才很了得之人 ,那些華人漢奸真係醜到無倫呀
评论区里被一些不懂装懂又以为自己很厉害的小粉红哗众取宠。看来陶杰又一次印证了鲁迅的说法了。 " 你们看你们看是不是民族的悲哀。" ~~ (英语:Lord)勋爵是一种敬称,主要用于翻译英语中对有爵位的贵族的泛称。 陶杰 : Hello Chris, can I call you Chris instead of Lord on behalf of Hong Kong... ( 你好,Chris,我可以代表香港称你为 Chris 而不是 勲爵 ) 指的是你名字上而已的称呼。 当然行,勲爵只有我太太才这么称呼...你们爱怎么称呼都行的意思,( 表明谦虚和友善,民主和开放的思想。) 从陶杰表情上,也许那种含蓄尴尬不失礼的笑声,引来不少网民的攻击。 当代西方民文明礼仪之邦的文明国际友好交流,陶杰以香港人身份开头第一句话立场鲜明以不求跪来称呼彭的英文名,虽然众多港民有时称彭定康为"肥彭" “画公仔画出墙” 这大家都心理有数啦 ! 看到视频的最尾端,陶杰用友谊慰问提及彭的新书内容里对于健康和年老生死离别的观点,往积极乐观态度去想更何况川普与你也仅仅相差两岁, 彭也同样尴尬态度笑了...
Tao’s attitude at starting point was quite arrogant, not feeling well for anyone. Call somebody’s official title is a basic gesture in any social platform. And he has less knowledge about HK’s economic structure, quoting “no manufacturing only property market, no IT...” Chris Patten knows well about HK, HK people manage factories in mainland China, just with another form in doing industry. People only notice the financial market but the truth is over 300K SMEs in HK, parts of them are running traditional electronic,garment, toys, watch & clocks, mostly with factories and export all over the world (in the name of Made in China).
小杰:爹地,你不在的日子好想您。
@leehyunsong7001
4 жыл бұрын
Jin Bin 挺想的啊 所以39个中国人死也要死在去英国的货柜车
@Volcan-fh4cv
4 жыл бұрын
Arthur C 你切记以后要死死家里,不然新闻报道又得冠上中国人如何如何……
@user-vv1ji4fm8s
4 жыл бұрын
Arthur C 哈哈,BBC打你脸了,35人已证实为越南籍,使用假中国护照!气死你咯
看了陶和胡锡进的对话后,再来认真全看完了这个视频,观感: 1)彭定康讲的很实际,中肯。知道自己的位置。符合他英国人的定位。 2)陶杰先生,香江才子,意见领袖?我看了反正是有点不习惯。跪舔的态度相当严重啊: 说彭定康是个伟大的人,我想他真是这么想的。他内心非常向往这个殖民总督重新执政。一再问如果你再执政,会咋办? 说到政策,又说撇开民主???(当然彭说要关注住房等民生问题,我赞同。)我哪个去,看看最近他的表态,香港的首要问题就是不民主,民生不是主要问题。这样的人如果堪称才子??? 3)比较起来,陶杰不清楚自己的地位,更像是在谄媚过去的主人。相反他过去的主人都比他来得实际得多。 4)看到目前HK的状况,HK是有很大深层矛盾。但是如果香江才子都这个德性的话,只能说英国人的殖民太成功了。
T: I'm with you,my lord C:No. You are not, you work too hard.
陶先生对中国人高人一等的气势在英国人面前立马消失!
@andyl.k5199
4 жыл бұрын
这是奴才的教程吗。。。。??
@zhaoraymond8656
4 жыл бұрын
姓陶的奴才相十足
@fannyqiu5566
4 жыл бұрын
正相反,陶先生完全是在平等对话。你似乎对文明世界的正常对话完全不熟悉。
@hohotong4325
4 жыл бұрын
Fanny Qiu , 說得好,夏蟲不可語冰嘛。不但感覺不到他們所謂的”奴才”性,反而我感到陶傑有點輕浮,不夠穩重。
@user-of4fb1os1y
4 жыл бұрын
都快添pdk屁眼了还平等对话 你平时是不是也这么舔洋大人屁眼的?
英式英语比普通话说得好多了,看见老东家 好开心哦,我觉得不应该面对面坐着,应该跪着垂听
@fannyqiu5566
4 жыл бұрын
你好像离文明世界很远,完全没有基本的文明概念。
@user-ox8pp5qm5k
4 жыл бұрын
会说话的狗就懂文明了?这些人应该被挂在玉林狗肉节的铁钩上才对。还有哈 你也别用简体中文回复了,用你的母语英文吧,或是繁体中文也行 我看得懂 也闻得到你身上的尿骚味。支持祸害大中华言行和媚外的东西不配用汉语,呸!看看你的昵称就知道你应该就是所谓文明的产物了,堂堂一个中国人取什么英文名?没人叫你进来看我的留言评论,不舒服就滚远点,别弄脏我的评论区,那么多点赞👍的就你这么一粒老鼠屎,che pezza di merda sei 🤮!
见到主人的陶杰终于憋出 为黑而黑的那些长句,彭定康都受不了了
@hkleehk1
6 жыл бұрын
Complex sentences is a taboo in dialogues to make comprehension more difficult. OK in written English as readers can do due adjustment, by truncating into smaller parts, and pause to recapitulate, or re-read.
曾特首確係人才,做特首幾年連電費都節省幾億,雖然無大作為,但應該影響很多富人飯碗,坐監是必然的!公平公正地用人很重要!!!
@18kc18
2 жыл бұрын
曾蔭權七年係中共管治香港廿五年間社會自由氣氛依舊政治最和諧經濟繁榮的時期
kzread.info/dash/bejne/eIxtzdakdrK7j8o.html 这才是差距,金一南「從百年滄桑到大國掘起」
Chip Tsao tries very hard to speak good English. Well, if you are a good speaker, you don't need to try hard, you can talk in a casual manner to bring up important points every now and then.
@alfredleung3647
2 жыл бұрын
Boon Kiat Yeow@ of course his English is not as good as Mr. Josiah Lau whose major was not in English but in Economics when he studied in Hong Kong University long time ago.
…孔庆东教授说的很对…某些香港人就是………
@cwtsang6756
2 жыл бұрын
孔慶東?佢話過「唔講普通話就係狗」「香港人守法係賤」等,佢的邏輯思維真係
为什么我想起了被解放的姜戈里的那个黑人管家!!
@user-wu9ho4bn4c
3 жыл бұрын
@@wuaaron808 呵呵,我可能没有求英国美国接管香港。看你是当奴才当出主人的感觉了
见到主子了,手足无措了😂
英国人很清楚自己能做的,香港人自己贴上来总督都扛不住,从肢体到语言已经有暗示了。至于香港现在感觉到的辛苦,英国也差不多。。。怎么说呢!感觉以前董建华的施政纲要还是满靠谱的。反正有相当的立法权,想办法在税收,金融业的透明度各个方面进步吧!社会的共识可能还不够,既有的优势无法成为势能,曾经的优势依然消亡。我觉得先从大学的入学率改起吧!20%的入学率真的不和潮流,并且所谓的精英真的不够精英。。。
看过和胡的对话过来的。 这个态度差别太大了。好谄媚啊!又是搓手又是前倾。一直话里话外的嘲笑中共来拉进距离。
@user-yc9tj4il8t
4 жыл бұрын
不管怎么样,拿一个前辈的死来讨好别人,真的很低级,很多东西都是代表国家利益,人都想帮自己的国家多争取一些,陶杰真的太low了
@mikezhang7646
4 жыл бұрын
是的 看来陶杰先生也并不是像别人所说的那样和别人交谈时都很傲慢无礼的样子,他说他妈生他这个鬼样子,明显是让他老妈替他背锅嘛。最起码陶杰先生看到英国主子还是毕恭毕敬的礼貌谦逊的。
@mikezhang7646
4 жыл бұрын
@@user-yc9tj4il8t 更何况彭定康即使和鲁平意见不同立场不同维护的利益不同都还赞赏鲁平是一个高尚正直的人,陶杰这个马屁拍的有点难看啊,连老彭都看不下去了。
@tiktok-rd7jh
4 жыл бұрын
崇祯.溥仪.近平 怎么啦 你全家在外面卖屁股生意不好做啦,火气什么这么大?
@user-pw2zy1qx8c
4 жыл бұрын
@@tiktok-rd7jh 还不是要怪你妈,最近越来越骚,给钱却越来越少,能不火大吗
It was an interview in 2017. Mr. Tao said some of them were got rid .....because of the Chinese government....... However, after 2019, what can Mr,. Tao say?
陶杰在国人和西人面前的坐姿,形态,语调的不同,真是体现了此人内心对国人的高高在上的俯视,对西人发自内心的仰慕之态!
@yuezhixiaoxiang1
5 жыл бұрын
你说的很对!
@user-wv5fz8nj8l
5 жыл бұрын
哈哈
@stephenlo1092
5 жыл бұрын
莫須有
@user-fd1my4fu4v
5 жыл бұрын
他果然是狗,这人很奇葩
@RaymondLWP
5 жыл бұрын
對人講人話,對蟲講蟲話
真懷念彭定康在港的时光,他比回歸後這几任特首强多了!~
@user-eb6sl6vu6q
6 жыл бұрын
Capt. Morgan 你可以趁早赚钱移民嘛
@user-eb6sl6vu6q
6 жыл бұрын
Capt. Morgan 可怜!这位陶先生一脸的下贱样,他心中伟大的宗主国已经日薄西山了,大英帝国现在在欧洲不被欧盟待见,在世界上地位更是日益没落,首相要到中国访问都被推后,大英帝国已经远远不能和中美相提并沦了,甚至快不如印度了!
@manli8888
6 жыл бұрын
彭定康對香港毫無貢獻,懷念,屁
@YatoroAmeAna
6 жыл бұрын
er rul 可笑的港独,排斥所谓中国人,殊不知自己在外国人眼中也是中国人
@velavanlaack9134
6 жыл бұрын
彭就系将香港汁都捞埋的人
看清了陶杰的人格,真不怎么样
Ego put in the box pls.
👍👍👏👏🤗🤗
Tao tried very hard to endear himself with Patten, using all sort of coloured phrases.
我觉得亲英国亲美国,觉得自己是英国人美国人都没问题,但是请你去英国美国生活,当一个真真正正的英国人美国人,为英国美国建设出力,老赖在中国的土地上干嘛?
@farmers740
4 жыл бұрын
我也在想毛主席当年为啥不移民苏联去。
@user-qz1vt4wr8c
4 жыл бұрын
张麻子 他亲苏联了吗?他为的是国家利益
@farmers740
4 жыл бұрын
@@user-qz1vt4wr8c 谁有不是这么想的呢?
@user-qz1vt4wr8c
4 жыл бұрын
张麻子 你们为了所谓人类的的自由和民主你们明显境界更高,我们只为自己国家而已。
@farmers740
4 жыл бұрын
@@user-qz1vt4wr8c 自由之个人,自由之国家,自由之民族。不冲突,可能你说的国家是共产党习主席才对吧。😂
陶杰的坐姿,身体语言,语气以及提问的内容像老师在考学生,呵呵
@kcchan3954
2 жыл бұрын
十九才子嘛!
@rage8kage
Жыл бұрын
腰骨伸唔直~你明啦
陶先生那種努力夾著尾巴的坐姿,好優雅。
@user-gr3yb2yy6i
4 жыл бұрын
点赞了。你的评论我笑喷了
@davidtan8592
3 жыл бұрын
是很”優雅“
世界級政治家。
中國不是正常國家,別jb強求中共有人性和正常人。
@ghjkfhkk6417
2 жыл бұрын
哈哈
I thought his English was very good? He is considered among the best from Hong Kong?
@serenachen9385
5 жыл бұрын
Cannot even complete many mainlander they really master their English super well just watch cgtn.
仿佛看到了大清遺老一般。港英政府治下並不全是餓莩,日本治下的朝鮮和滿洲也並不是滿目瘡痍就是這個道理。既得利益團體不管在哪都存在。
我是农民老黄的儿子,老黄是个本分的农民,整天想着如何在贫瘠的土地上养活我们一大家子人,有时蛮横独断,甚至家暴,但在村里,老黄家的勤劳和朴实有口皆碑,在村里也算相对富裕。所以,家里能供养我去城里读书学知识,当然比起其他子女,我所享受的优待自不必说。到城市,我感觉一切都那么光鲜,同时我更加强烈的感觉到,老黄家的落后。我认识了德先生,他是一个和老黄家颇有渊源的人,原来两家人曾是邻居,德先生也曾与黄家交好,后来德先生用强占黄家地和祸害黄家人的方式引发了两家人的争斗,是的,我假装那是上一辈人的恩怨。德先生家里出了名的民主,他们尊重每个成员的声音,甚至他们最近为是否退出本地的驴友会而争论不休,因为有些成员就是为了表达与别人不同的意见而违心发声,只是要体现他们在这个家里的重要性。德先生对我很好,虽然我知道他内心是非常鄙视来自农村的我的,或者说来自老黄家的我,又或者通过我能达到他对老黄家的某种嘲弄或羞辱的作用。我懂,Who care,我现在能得到德先生的钱,而且能与德先生为伍,令我感到荣幸,别人也会对我刮目相看,他们管这个叫做精英圈子,好吧,那我身在其中不就是精英的一员。现在,我准备彻底与老黄家决裂了,我要改姓,我要生活在城市,我要当精英,我要让以后我的家人,对哪怕是谁是你爸爸这样的问题都可以一人一票来投票决定。是的,看到这里,我知道你想的,我就是个二逼。
最尾Chris pattern個句,you are very kai,真係笑左
@nicholastang7992
6 жыл бұрын
Chi Shing To kind or Kai?
@steaklover9509
6 жыл бұрын
雙關語LoL 千古罪人係香港都咁多年 識幾句廣東話都唔出奇
Tao barks much harder for his Lord. The Lord, on the other hand, speaks quite fair and prudent.
’川普七十而總統,先生今年七十二,” 我想彭定康先生對此高帽,一定是不自在的。他內心比較喜歡的應是:沉舟側畔千帆過,病樹前头萬木春吧!
@haru007
3 жыл бұрын
兩次差丟丟就給使徒彼得報到的彭老難免不雲淡風輕啦。 陶傑也不像在刻意吹捧,從言行舉止看,他也是真心欽佩面前的這位老大爺
陶先生真乃一派英奴相
@m89091592
5 жыл бұрын
Alexander Ho 哈哈哈哈哈哈
@MGF522
5 жыл бұрын
即使佢係,亦輪唔到共奴去笑佢
@yinsenanhai
5 жыл бұрын
MGF522 笑的自由都没有?难道这就是香港的自由和民主?搞笑
@LucasAstonUK
5 жыл бұрын
MGF522 民主呢,自由言论呢,on9
香港說白了,就是一個城市級別的地區,地少人多,即便內地衰落,能接受香港獨立了,香港還是只能作為世界經濟的一個中轉站而已,體量制約著格局的發展。新加坡雖然建國而且經濟發展很好,終究還是一個中轉站。香港了不起就是成為新加坡,當然很長時期這是不可能實現,新加坡也是馬來西亞排斥後被迫獨立的,內地可沒有排斥香港。
陶老师怎么能这样呀。。天哪。。他怎么啦。。他什么情况呀?
彭定康毕竟是了不起的政治家,不会轻易被“才子”带着节奏走。
@alfredleung3647
2 жыл бұрын
一個從政,一個從商,完全兩個世界兩種人,心態各異,價值觀不同。
@Mike-yk7rl
2 жыл бұрын
@snow iv "也许"和"造谣"有时可以划等号。
@rage8kage
Жыл бұрын
政治家? 算吧啦。 其實先做咗13年MP. 真係唔算資深
陶杰先生才华横溢,谦谦君子。
陶傑不愧為香港才子‘完全詳細分析‘‘‘講重點‘中國確實雙重標準‘‘
看着这二位想起来电影《被解放的姜戈》里面的莱昂纳多和萨缪尔。