The face in the end... Everytime I mess up while practicing.

@Spoon-Licker

Жыл бұрын

Me when my hand starts cramping while I'm recording for my friends 😭

@CypherKakarot

Жыл бұрын

Nice

@bulbulitobayagbagan9633

11 ай бұрын

Imagine the metronome running on double time and playing the note every second beat. That always makes you syncopated. Now help me, I am fr constipated 💀.

@yooniemin7

11 ай бұрын

Iii

@xxBlackxWindowxx

11 ай бұрын

Literally me yesterday, I was just like god dammit I have to go back.

most rhythmically accurate violinist:

@antoninwilmart335

10 ай бұрын

That's why you need 50 of them in an orchestra lol

@jaydenchow6351

10 ай бұрын

​@@antoninwilmart335and most important ly a conductor

@WKKelloggsFrostedFlakes

10 ай бұрын

Most ryhnically accurate violist

@elijimenez7710

10 ай бұрын

@@IcezdCoffeeheard!

@yomino7870

9 ай бұрын

Most ethnically accurate violinist……

I love syncopation moments like this, I always think of it as just call and response between me and each beat. Idk why but that makes it easier for me to play

@scptime1188

10 ай бұрын

yeah that's what i do its 10x easier but it can get a bit tedious at higher tempos

@devyysk

7 ай бұрын

@@scptime1188tchaik 2 movement 4 cello part..

@e.f7598

7 ай бұрын

I am thinking about rushing while not doing it works for me

@Somebody-dl8og

Ай бұрын

For me I just sing it in my mind, kimda like 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and...

@chuck_duck

Ай бұрын

I could never do syncopation for the life of me I tried everything and couldn’t get it and somehow the thing that finally made it click for me was ADOFAI.

It's the musicians brain to automatically get on tempo

@cecilia5740

7 ай бұрын

Nah, maybe just a classical musicians. Jazz musicians are programmed for the off beat

@_zaymoon

4 ай бұрын

@@cecilia5740It’s in the classical musicians brain to automatically get on tempo

@duncancofell8960

Ай бұрын

@@cecilia5740jazz musicians have to work on it just as much as classical musicians. Syncopation struggles exist in both genres

@josshlegg8647

Ай бұрын

@@_zaymoon Except, by accidentally moving to the downbeat rather than your intended offbeat, you've actually had to speed up or slow down....so not on tempo 😆

@asusrog8872

22 күн бұрын

I'm learning all genres here, and no... IDK how but I can do both

I love how global the problem is.

@BBarNavi

Жыл бұрын

no it's not

@chessematics

Жыл бұрын

@@BBarNavi yes it is we all suffer form it. It's natural instinct to align to a pulse.

@Klara_S.

Жыл бұрын

​@chessematics I have learned to count the pulse separately from the syncopation Like the pulse being the weaker beat in my mind and the syncopation being the stronger one, I'm able to establish the same pulse but almost out of time so I feel the pulse on the syncopation, then snap back to the original when I'm done And the human experience is overcoming nature, so saying human nature doesn't mean it can't be overcome

@chessematics

Жыл бұрын

@@Klara_S. yeah exactly that's how I do it. It's of course a skill that can be learnt. Instinct can be overcome, but instinct is always there.

@Klara_S.

Жыл бұрын

@@chessematics also, I have to ask because of the name. What's your elo? I don't meet many other musicians who enjoy chess.

This is what happens when you get too used to having the melody all the time.

@Aroaceicon11-rz3ep

Жыл бұрын

Yup, as a bassist of only two years we get this a lot and never have problems with it

@ckarls8508

Жыл бұрын

Viola problems

@cole931

11 ай бұрын

And that's why this isn't a french horn problem

@Mster_J

7 ай бұрын

Trumpet gang problems 🎺 (except in an orchestra)

@kokomi270

7 ай бұрын

​@@cole931fr😭 finally getting a song where I have the melody though for a music festival😻

it was so catchy while it was syncopated 😭

@selliantuttimusi6735

Ай бұрын

it lasted less than 2 seconds ;(

As a drummer, what helped me get my start for off beat syncopation was tapping both feet. Right food for down beat, left foot for off beat. Once you get the feel for how it's supposed to feel, you slowly weed out the right foot and be able to play ONLY off beats by itself

@MarkTheMinstrel

4 күн бұрын

This is actually genius. Thank you so much 🙏

As a percussionist, you gotta feel the downbeat somewhere else whether it your foot or other hand. Definitely helps until you get used to it

@potapotapotapotapotapota

Жыл бұрын

you guys have to learn how to not only syncopate the off beat but literally every fraction of the beat

@Chat.jaipete

Жыл бұрын

I tapped my feet to the beat n forgot that my foot was on the kick 💀

@potapotapotapotapotapota

Жыл бұрын

@@gabriellopes195 pianos and drums are the 2 instruments I'll never be able to wrap my head around lol

@joycastle.

Жыл бұрын

Normally I would recommend listening to a lot of Reggae and Ska, but I'm not sure if Brett would appreciate it. It's somewhat of an acquired taste, especially Reggae (in my opinion at least, and I like both)

@libsyates2426

Жыл бұрын

Yep! Usually for me, it just helps to emphasize the offbeats in my head, sorta like tapping it but silently. It's like playing an even rhythm clapping game with a metronome.

Brett is so sweet I would gladly watch him mess up the rhythm for hours

@shela404

Жыл бұрын

same

@elsabrown9413

Жыл бұрын

​@@shela404 bro poor Brent he got a buncha simps

@pipi_un_wonderland

Жыл бұрын

​@@elsabrown9413hey atleast he got some and you got none

@atejohnnysuh

Жыл бұрын

@@pipi_un_wonderland STOPPPPFJD

@alexaroblox7997

11 ай бұрын

@@pipi_un_wonderland LMAO

nah a lifetime of playing offbeats on sousa marches has made every french horn player a master of this

@Last_Survivor593

6 ай бұрын

THAT'S WHY I'M SO GOOD AT IT LOLLLL

@Ricky.Z

3 ай бұрын

Can confirm👍I think Sousa hated us

As a french horn player who has "that part" in every march known to man. This is light work 🔥

The lifehack must be having a second metronome with another tone so you can focus on the offbeat, which is the true beat. Edit: I didn't expect this silly comment to blow up lol. Have fun studying syncopation, you all. Plenty of useful tips in the replies ^^

@isabellawagner5487

Жыл бұрын

Haha for real

@Dragenthor

Жыл бұрын

actual hack that worked for me. Bob your head and say "Mm-pa" so your head bobs forward while you say "Mm" on every beat, and the rear bob/"pa" is on each off-beat, then after getting used to it, just stop saying "Mm", and all you'll hear is the syncopation on "pa". Really helped get the "feel" down.

@belenl.3143

Жыл бұрын

Omg I never think about that

@alliegoebert

Жыл бұрын

Just tap your foot with the beat

@Diesereine-typ

Жыл бұрын

Or u practice slow and then u can have time to adjust the faster u go

As a percussionist who has been drilling syncopation for years and still goofs most of the time, I feel you buddy 😭

@caedmonlarson1437

8 ай бұрын

DUUUDE LIKE WITH TAMBOURINE STUFF

@seroberts

8 ай бұрын

@@caedmonlarson1437 YES FR IT DRIVES ME CRAZY

@Owen2131_

7 ай бұрын

I feel ya on this, the biggest thing though as a percussionist myself is that you gotta have really strong mental energy, so, I would say, do on beat for 4 quarter notes, then do syncopation, then also go back to on beat quarter notes, then syncopation for another measure until you’re really comfortable with it, it’s helped me a lot

@mojojojo3411

7 ай бұрын

This sounds on purpose.

@seroberts

7 ай бұрын

@@Owen2131_ yeah I do exercises like that all the time but I find that the syncopation gets me when I do it for a long time (one of my band pieces I had to do off beats for the entire song and it killed my wrists 😭)

As a drummer I see this as an absolute win

@DrumLuv23

4 ай бұрын

Yessir!!! 😂

@Miguel_I_guess

19 күн бұрын

@@kaferere yay

Bro's playing a 9 against 16 polyrhythm 💀

As a violist, this is the only thing we're better at

@Jack-zi6tl

Жыл бұрын

So true

@-shanta-

Жыл бұрын

hell nah, I’m learning a jazz piece rn and I suck at off beats so bad lmao

@8Phoenix8

Жыл бұрын

Also, I believe Ghosting techniques help alot here a Jazz Violinist named @Christian Howes breaks this down in a really easy way. Also theres is Strum bowing by Tracy Silverman a rock violinist who went to Juilliard but traded it in for modern creative string playing. 😀

@8Phoenix8

Жыл бұрын

And honestly I love Violagang! 😀 I just wish Twoset would appreciate Violagang more.

@Ba-kt6ju

Жыл бұрын

Yeah since it’s all we get were pretty much masters at it

This is like when the two windshield wipers are slightly off and then get back into sync for like a second

@cooldudep

Жыл бұрын

Synchronization!

@ReStartermusic

11 ай бұрын

Broken clock is right twice a day vibes

I've never felt so smug about being a horn player

as a french horn player, you'll get it eventually

You can tell he’s listening to the metronome and not himself. You gotta do both lol and Brett has shown he has incredible rhythm accuracy(he clapped to a metronome that paused and he clapped right on time when it started again) so you have to rely on your sense of internal beat that your hands already know how to do

@juliam.1909

10 ай бұрын

Honestly came here to say basically this lol he's focusing too hard on the metronome and causing himself to slow down

@hobistinyheartbag

10 ай бұрын

That’s what’s happening to me!!! I can’t do both 😭

as a soprano, i feel this because i ALWAYS have the melody except for about one song a year

@TehDawg

10 ай бұрын

Which one were u?

@thisgamingduckey

10 ай бұрын

​@@TehDawgTony Soprano the boss

@jayantyaniketh9538

10 ай бұрын

As a male soprano in an all boys school I can confirm I fall apart when Im not singing the melody.

@Glaura2301

10 ай бұрын

As an alto i am more than comfortable with syncopation lol

@amosuzumaki5757

9 ай бұрын

Since I'm all the parts I feel you so much! My choir teacher in high school tried to find pieces with other parts having the melody so that out sopranos (sometimes including me) were able to get used to harmonies!

I played French horn so that’s the only reason I surpassed this problem (In school March songs + French horn = syncopation/upbeats)

YOU GOT THIS! You had the feeling at the start lmao.

seems like it's time to play viola

@magdolyn

Жыл бұрын

I totally came here to say this! Viola Gang FTW!

@isabellawagner5487

Жыл бұрын

I say that every time I watch their videos 😂

@kaz-R32

Жыл бұрын

Viola gang ftw

@Kakashi_Hatake____

Жыл бұрын

FRRRRRRRR

@Brook_55

11 ай бұрын

I played Viola cuz I mixed it with violin for school XD I actually liked it more.

The struggle is real, and the face at the end said it all

the frustration on his face

SAMMEEEE, THIS IS SO RELATABLE

My trick is to always think the song is about to turn into an EDM bass line. 😂

That's a lot of words for "I'm dragging"

reminds me of when i practice and accidentally do this and my parents tell me to play on tempo, and i’m just like “BUT IT’S USUALLY SO DIFFICULT”

It's always the classical musicians! And I say this as a classical flautist. The best way to think of it is to "play" the rest - don't just wait for the next note. Actively move your arm on the beat when resetting to play the next note so it's like: (Don't play notes in brackets) 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + П V (П) V (П) V (П) V I do the exact same thing, except instead of an imaginary down bow, I silently tongue an imaginary note (well actually I just cut the airstream on the beat and reopen it off, but what I said is how I initially learned)

As a French horn, I can confirm that you just need to play a few more marches, you'll get it down soon enough

@Leonlion0305

7 ай бұрын

I thought Horns just need one Sleigh Ride and we are good. Got PTSD tho 😂

@nojustno2526

7 ай бұрын

noo the ptsd

@Ricky.Z

3 ай бұрын

Yeah and my middle school band teacher's favorite composer was Sousa 😵

try playing any march on the french horn and you'll get better pretty fast lmaooo

As a percussionist I see this as an absolute win

This is exactly how I feel inside when I mess up while practicing.

Just put one of your hands in the violin, it seems to help french horn players

@danyasofiamojicalarios420

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@justsummers1559

11 ай бұрын

😂

@stefaneduard8169

9 ай бұрын

☠️

Those first 3 seconds of playing violin made me want to hear the whole piece. Could you please tell the name of this song?

The cinematography in this is top-notch.

I relate to this too much.. 🥲

Listen, start to finish, to the album "Will The Circle Be Unbroken" by Nitty Gritty Dirt Band and you'll be cured of this unfortunate affliction. Side effects may include foot-tappin' and a hankering for something to whet your whistle.

Bro got that classical musician rhythm feel. 😅

This is so real! I think playing with another person if possible is helpful because you both can match up and start making it harder.

Us horn players don’t have that problem😂

@elissahunt

Жыл бұрын

Feel the same way as a T-sax player.

@punk.n.ska4me

Жыл бұрын

RIGHT

@caesarsalad0646

Жыл бұрын

Ahhh exactly 😂

@mkna9207

Жыл бұрын

YES TY

That mess up face is pretty accurate😂

As a pianist, clarinetist, drummer, violinist, guitarist, bassist, fluteist and trombonist i can relate very much

@damiengibson8691

9 ай бұрын

I play all those instruments as well...pretty easy

@Danieltheinstrumentman

9 ай бұрын

@@damiengibson8691 what do you mean pretty easy?

@damiengibson8691

8 ай бұрын

@@Danieltheinstrumentman Every instrument is easy if you're disciplined....definitely nothing special at all!

@Danieltheinstrumentman

8 ай бұрын

@@damiengibson8691 Idk what you are trying to tell me is that i am just a normal and dumb person even though i have perfect pitch and photograpich memory and it’s noting special about me playing all the instruments but you’re an old man in your year 40’s or something so you should know better

My choir director had us practice this vocally so syncopation is something that I've always kind of gotten. Keep going you'll get it

I had this in High School band where we were playing Holtz's Jupiter. The clarinet part in the opening sections are multi measure strings of syncopated eighth notes that form the background ambiance.

the conductor will compensate by being the syncopated one😂

Syncopations are amazing... When you can nail it CONSISTENTLY.

the sniffing tactic lol

i relate to this

As a drummer, I don't feel your pain at all, shits easy

@spdcrzy

10 ай бұрын

Right?! I've played tabla for over 25 years now and syncopation is literally day one of what I was taught to do. Why is it so difficult for other musicians? It's not a problem in India, that's for sure.

your slowing down bret, push it as if it’s a quarter note just funky💕

March composers love to give French horns the upbeat. You have to realize the downbeat so you don’t get back on track with it. Maybe since you don’t use your mouth to play, you can use a small articulation to sense the downbeat, then bounce back off it to play your upbeats.

just classical problems We jazz and pop musicians play syncopation as second nature

I remember cheating syncopation. My teacher finally caught me when she was listening to me playing in the closet. Usually the sheet music started with an 8th note, so I started syncopated, but then started counting the rest like normal. I've gotten away with it all my life until now in senior year of highschool lol

@Lewej1

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't call that cheating, hell, I'd daresay that's a smart strategy 😆

@Cheezus

11 ай бұрын

if it works it works

@Cheezus

11 ай бұрын

I've gotten away with not actually counting all 50 rests of something and just reading the part of the instrument that would cue me in and just know it's coming and start counting from there. We all had our tricks in youth orchestras lol

Thats pretty mind blowing 😂

As a drummer this is a piece of cake. Feel the offs

To help this you can distract yourself with the beat somehow, either sniffing, saying “mm-pa” in your head, or setting the bow on the string on the beat (my preferred method)

I feel this

As a jazz musician, I have the opposite problem 😅

This is art

New Music that puts you on the beat and then off and then on… back and forth

I bet if you scroll TikTok for 40 more hours, you will definitely play it right. Or better, you will never play on the beat😂

this drove me crazy thank you

I am glad knowing that I am not the only one.

the pain when someone slaps you with the facts. 😣💯😂

for some reason i must’ve had a great teacher, when the cellist/bass players all had to play syncopation, we played it perfectly and our teacher even stopped the whole class to teach the violins and violas syncopation 😂

@Cheezus

11 ай бұрын

yeah I feel the same way, it just feels natural to me and I play violin, I wonder if it's just one of those things some people pick up quick and others don't

@bi0h4zard0us

10 ай бұрын

fr, as a cellist its wild to me to see violinists (and violists, to a lesser degree) struggle with it so bad

A viola would never 😂😂 dang violins only used to playing the ✨melodies✨ all the time so you fail at the simplest accompagnement 😭😭🥲

@KaaaylaDoe

Жыл бұрын

Drag us 😂

I HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE!!!

as somebody who’s played lockstep, i see this as an absolute win

what are you trying to play? im curious bout the first beat tho

For me I’m replying to the beat-

So relatable! Glad I’m not alone 😂

I feel that bro, I'm the same way. Try subdividing two notes per best, and placing it on the second best

Excuse my ignorance but if this is a part of an actual piece then please share me its name, such a beautiful beginning

@cerealloser

11 ай бұрын

why would your comment be seen as ignorant?

@rts4097

11 ай бұрын

@@cerealloser for it may be an easily recognizable piece in the classical music world but I don’t know it *sad ant*

@ferchio4801

11 ай бұрын

Hope somebody replies, because it sounds thrilling!

@Coutou._.

11 ай бұрын

Yeah I’ve been looking and can’t find it

@dustinwheeler3833

11 ай бұрын

commenting cause im curious too lol

it's hardwired into the musician's body. staying off-beat is difficult.

As a french horn player, I feel this so hard-

Tip: focus on when your hand moves down. The down movement will match up with the metronome, making the mental block easier to get over :)

If you were a violist, you would be able to do this ngl

I think we all know the issue here… PRACTICE!!!

Protip: start on the syncopation, will never lose the beat again 🗿

I love how he actually reaaaaally struggled to get it wrong

Guess the focus is on the beep at some point. Have you tried slower?

@chemistry4life

Жыл бұрын

if you can play it slowly you can play it qUiCkLy

@user-yw9mw9hv8o

Жыл бұрын

@@chemistry4life it's funny that that's unironically good advice

The result of practicing 48 hours a day.

As a sportman, It is very relateable

That polyrhythm is crazy bro

Play it in your head, don’t use things for rhythm, it just messes you up. I have the same problem and this works for me

I must be gifted because everybody here seems to relate to this so much but that was never ever a problem to me

You’re so real for this

I feel this 😭 One thing I try to do is subdivide the metronome

As a bassist I noticed that it helps me to nod my head on the beat while swaying my body to the off beat

Clap out the rhythm, then add the notes once its perfected. Singing your part also helps so you can have a tonal reference on parts that trip you up.

I feel you! Third clarinet here... but once in the orchestra, with some percussion and a bass, I'm sure you'll be fine 😁😉

Aaaaaah!!! I knew it wasn’t just me that struggles with it! 😂

Sammmmme,glad to see that professionals struggle with the same problems😂

"Not quite my tempo."

As a percussionist, whose whole job is rythym, I can relate.

For me it really depends on the piece. Sometimes I’ll be able to nail a syncopated/weird rhythm section immediately and sometimes I’ll have to slam my head against it for three days even if it should be easy. I think it’s just what makes sense to me and what doesn’t. Idk just keep at it!