Sylvia Loch - On The Bit Dressage

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Excerpt from Sylvia Loch's DVD - On The Bit. This was recorded in 2001 and explains the correct training of the horse without force or gadgets.
This Video clip also explains the preparation of the horse for all collected work, starting with a basic understanding of contact and its effect on the horse's hindend.
Sylvia has always trained her horses to the highest levels without the necessity to force their heads behind the vertical and cannot understand why Rollkur is ever used.
Please also see www.classicalriding.co.uk for more information.
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  • @rideinrain
    @rideinrain13 жыл бұрын

    Very informative and easy to understand. Thanks for the insight with the diagrams!

  • @baskaseto
    @baskaseto10 жыл бұрын

    Very nicely done!

  • @BehindDistrict12
    @BehindDistrict1212 жыл бұрын

    Dang, I wish I could draw like that...

  • @Maxinegee1
    @Maxinegee112 жыл бұрын

    I learnt a lot !!!

  • @LishesPrincess
    @LishesPrincess11 жыл бұрын

    all spanish horses like Espada here. i wouldn't judge sylvia's riding or how she is riding espada here in this video because untill you have sat in the saddle of a top trained classical dressage horse, you have no idea how difficult it is to ride them. and i know all this because i have worked for sylvia and had the pleasure of riding her stallion Prazor which was very difficult because of the sensetivie of your hand, body and leg position

  • @HorseyHelen1982
    @HorseyHelen198211 жыл бұрын

    How can anyone dislike this?!? Oh i know, they've had incorrect training! Easily done.

  • @KMJCAN1313

    @KMJCAN1313

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sylvia is fabulous.

  • @silverkitty2503
    @silverkitty25035 жыл бұрын

    This woman knows her shit.

  • @bewildered75
    @bewildered7512 жыл бұрын

    Its possible to have a short rein and a still have a light contact The difference is all in your hands and position Its easier on a horse to have a steady light contact on a shorter rein for jumping than a rider on a long flapping rein that will suddenly jab him in the mouth if he makes a wrong move

  • @EpicBlueSpikes
    @EpicBlueSpikes12 жыл бұрын

    a horse that has a hollowed back will almost resist a contact meaning he will retreat his head toalmost avoid thecontact, a round back will make the rider feel tall likewise the horse, only aproud and tall horse will seek the contact with the bit and look relaxed doing so.

  • @danielthomas3333
    @danielthomas33335 жыл бұрын

    There is much confusion about the use of bits. It involves the tongue and hyoid apparatus. The hyoid is connected to the sternum and other structures in the shoulder. This enables the horse to transfer weight to the hind quarters and bend the joints of the hind quarters. This is the basis of all classical training and is well tested by a couple of centuries of experience and is well documented in the literature. I encourage you to study Gymnazium of the Horse by Gustav Steinbrecht. When people show finished horses without a bit, they have usually been trained in a bit in their formative training

  • @o0Affinity0o
    @o0Affinity0o12 жыл бұрын

    I am wondering, my English riding instructor always tells me I need to have shorter reins and a strong contact, but I prefer the feeling of longer reins and light contact, and doesn't light contact promote a softer mouth? I am starting jumping, so strong or light contact? My horse tends to throw her head down quite a bit and shirk the reins out of my hands as well.

  • @bewildered75
    @bewildered7512 жыл бұрын

    Not seeing this horse backing off at all, the length of rein and light contact allows the horse to move forwards freely people confuse a hard rigid contact on a short rein with being on the bit This horse was willing, balanced, relaxed and happy and its a riding style we should be moving back too and away from tense over collected animals

  • @DJBelbe
    @DJBelbe14 жыл бұрын

    Great video! love the first half of the explanation. When she starts to explain in sketch I do think it's not very clear phisiologically nor anatomically speaking. Philippe Karl does a much better explanation of that part, can anyone ask him to do a lil video available for free including that part? it would do the world a great favour.

  • @xoSiNgInGiNtHeRaInox
    @xoSiNgInGiNtHeRaInox11 жыл бұрын

    i still don't know how to train this. theoretically what she said is great, but in practice how can the hind end be engaged and flow through to the hands? specific examples would be great. thanks

  • @thisirishcobcan

    @thisirishcobcan

    3 жыл бұрын

    By lots and lots of transitions. Also by riding the horse forward I.e changing from working trot, to medium trot, back to working trot etc. Same with canter.

  • @keithbartlam4733
    @keithbartlam473311 жыл бұрын

    If BD says that the horse should be accepting of the bridle, why cant I compete in a bridle without a bit such as the Dr Cook??

  • @1010nicole1010
    @1010nicole101012 жыл бұрын

    well seen! i could not see anything good in the riding. sorry. and the video is without force or gadgets? but ridden with spurs and whip...

  • @MurMyrrh
    @MurMyrrh14 жыл бұрын

    I guess people aren't used to seeing a horse in training, or to seeing horses being worked, in a 'classical' way. If all horses started perfectly finished and supple there would be no debate here. The horse in the video is generally in a correct posture, could he be less stiff? Sure. Could he be under himself more? Sure. That's the point of the training, to work with the horse to improve those things. I applaud Sylvia for attempting to educate, despite the willful ignorance.

  • @thisirishcobcan

    @thisirishcobcan

    3 жыл бұрын

    I love this explanation. When watching videos I always want to see horses that are in training - not the end product.

  • @wisepati123
    @wisepati1237 жыл бұрын

    Why the constant spurring?

  • @sonseere10

    @sonseere10

    7 жыл бұрын

    Selfishness and ignorance.

  • @poppysmummy11
    @poppysmummy1112 жыл бұрын

    The horse wan't engaged at all it was backing off. I think that horse needed pushed into the bridle a bit more. If it was going forward then it would be more likely to relax into the contact. For this though the contact needs to be stable/secure. Anyone agree?

  • @keithbartlam4733
    @keithbartlam473311 жыл бұрын

    So why is a bit necessary at all???? I can get all my horses to lift their backs and collect up without a bit by using my legs and seat only and achieve a soft contact through the rein. The only "point" of communication with a horse's front end is therefore with the nose band, which is a more effective means, as the pain of the bit is removed. Uta Graff on Le Noir demonstrates this to perfection on U Tube if you need any inspiration or proof of how effective a Dr Cook Bitless bridle is.

  • @sonseere10

    @sonseere10

    7 жыл бұрын

    It is not necessary. Bits are used by people who do not know how to ride. Teach yourself and your horse to ride in a rope halter.

  • @samantha5825

    @samantha5825

    7 жыл бұрын

    @sonseere10 Because I'm sure you can ride better than everybody else..... Advocating for bitless is fine, but you make yourself sound just as ignorant as you condemn others for being, when you say you don't know how to ride unless you ride bitless. Riding isn't about the equipment, it's about feel, and the aids. Good riding can be achieved with or without the bit.

  • @thisirishcobcan

    @thisirishcobcan

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@samantha5825 exactly! Bitless bridles still use pressure. It just goes somewhere else. Some horses like the deviated pressure. Some don’t. Totally agree with you.

  • @danielthomas6739
    @danielthomas67396 жыл бұрын

    Not impressed with her riding. I’m not sure what she is saying. I have one of her books and quite frankly she doesn’t have a good grasp of the bending of the hind legs. It’s strange that she has published as much as she has, when you consider that there are some significant books out there

  • @GPonyyyy
    @GPonyyyy14 жыл бұрын

    hahaha what a load of rubbish, that poor horse with that lady bobbling around on its tense hollow back, looks like it needs a good stretch to me!

  • @sonseere10
    @sonseere107 жыл бұрын

    Such ignorance. Bits are bad for horses. Horses will be calmer and more responsive with smoother transitions by properly using a rope halter.

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