So a couple suggestions. 1. Put those Hotshot's secret bottles in a couple plastic bags without holes in the bottom. I use the same thing and put them in my door as well but they leak even if you have the cap on properly. You can't leave them by themselves because they will leak. You can even see that they are leaking in your video. And you might not think this will be a big deal but over time, it will ruin your door panel which you don't want. But also, maybe even more importantly, it stinks in the cab. 2. You mentioned the 6.7 having the Bosch CP4 fuel injection pump which is correct. I would suggest installing the CP4 fuel injection pump self destruction prevention kit in your truck. If you're able to do things, you should be able to do it yourself. I understand that you may want to wait until your truck is out of warranty but the reality is, during this time, that pump is likely already sending small particles of metal through the entire fuel system EVEN WITH the proper maintenance. I wouldn't risk it now if you plan to keep the truck for 300k or 400k or more. The problem is already going on now so it's best to try to minimize the issue now. 3. I would consider adding ANOTHER fuel filter along with the factory one since the CP4 has so many issues. 4. Why aren't you doing your own oil changes? Why give up so much money? The 6.7 takes 14 quarts of oil and with a filter, this is about $65 to $70 if you decide to purchase filters online. You're giving away about $130 just so someone can rotate your tires? Also, why not just do the rotations yourself? It's not like it's that difficult or takes that much time. Just take a weekend day and spend 30 to 45 minutes doing it. Not a big deal. 5. Although you're getting better fuel mileage, it's not enough to offset the costs for the increased price of diesel ALONG WITH the added costs of the maintenance in the diesel. Although the power isn't comparable, if it's fuel mileage that matters, then the diesel isn't going to be better once you figure in the cost of the oil itself which is almost 2 1/2 times the amount of a gasoline vehicle. The fuel filters have to be changed a lot more frequently and they are more expensive. And you have to figure in the added costs of the Hotshot's Secret diesel treatment you're using. It all adds up to just be more. If it's power you need, then there is no contest. The diesel will win hands down unless you're towing 15k or less. At that point, the diesel isn't worth it. But if it's fuel mileage and overall maintenance costs that you want to compare, the gas wins.

I have a 2017 F350 with 112000 I run hotshot secret every tank 2 oz per 25 gal filter every 10000. I would like to put mine on a diet soon

@nbankxworld8614

8 ай бұрын

The best thing you can do for any do diesel truck.

GOOD REVIEW

Good looking truck I’ve been considering doin the same as I have toys that’s hard on my z71

Very nice

I'm on fence 6.2 or 6.7 I tow a 17foot double axel cargo trailer go out to the rockies one a year just not sure what I need thanks for the info it was very helpful

Nice truck.....

@nbankxworld8614

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

Nice truck, great video! I just bought a 2019 F250 gas and stumbled across this vid while looking for programmers and exhaust to increase the Mpgs. Any ideas? Thanks!!👍👍

@nbankxworld8614

Жыл бұрын

Sorry just seen your message. I don’t know of any exhaust systems or programmers for trucks. I’m actually researching programmers myself right now.

Ford doesnt have it set up so you can do a manual burn so that people dont decide to let it do a burn in their garage and set their house on fire from the heat of the exhaust against the wall. At least that is what i was told by a technician

@nbankxworld8614

2 жыл бұрын

Yea that’s correct. You can set it up for manual burn if you have forscan like I did.

Cp4s usually go out at 100k, right after the warranty expires.

@eldridge201

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, that's not true. There are many owners that have them go out way before 100k and they are going out at 30k or 40k. I know of some people having it happen at 15k. I helped a guy with a 2020 F-450 that had only 24k on it that had it go out. He bought the truck with only about 12k or 14k on it and he put maybe 10k on it. I helped him when he was on the side of the interstate in Oklahoma. I asked him if he had changed the fuel filter when he got the truck and he didn't think he had done that even though he does routine oil changes. More than likely, the fuel had never been changed in that 24k time span. The result was going to be about $12k for repairs. I have heard as much as $15k to $16k depending on dealer. Not good. They have a CP4 self destruction prevention kit that can be installed for a few hundred dollars in parts. Probably worth getting installed on every truck with these pumps.

@tattooedmillionair

Жыл бұрын

@@eldridge201 Coming from someone doing research to buy a 6.7l, some question I wish I could know from that guy on the side of the road: Was a fuel lubricant added to every tank starting on day 1? Also, based on my research of all the cp4 pumps in Ford truck, 1.6% to 7% of the pumps fail. So (as a mid-range estimate number) if Ford puts out 300k engines and 7% fail, that's 21,000 people screwed, per year. The number is a lot of people per year, but as a percentage, 1.6% thru 7% (depending on the source of my research) isn't AS scary, and the majority (sorry I do not have numbers at hand) of these failures do happen at above 100k, with very few happening well below 100k. That does not mean that several hundred or a few thousand (prior to 100k) do not exist. I am reading this as, if I bought a new truck, that nobody else touched besides me, I would be confident until starting 50,000-ish to about 75,000-ish is when I would be looking for a new pump.

@eldridge201

Жыл бұрын

@@tattooedmillionair I'll address your comment as best as I can from memory since it's been about 3 years now that I helped the guy on the side of the road. First, I don't know if the person I helped used or uses any fuel lubricant or any other additives in his vehicles. The person owned a business that supplied medical equipment to various hospitals around the country so I don't think he knew much about vehicles but of course, I could be wrong. I can't say for sure what specific medical equipment it was and I don't know if it was the equipment in the rooms or some of the larger equipment for the hospitals themselves such as stuff that would sit outside. Either way, he used his trucks and trailers to transport the equipment. I believe he was in his 60s and he came across as having a decent amount of an income as he said he had 3 or 4 other trucks and when I took him to his house, let's just say it was probably worth at least $600k or more given the neighborhood. I'm not saying it was a 2 or 3 million dollar home because I don't think it was but I'm damn sure it was more than 1/4 million and confident it had to be over 1/2 a million. Anyway...my point with this information is that I don't think money was the problem in the situation and it was simply lack of knowledge and potential naivety and I'll explain. This guy was just a guy that owned a medical supply business and he just wanted to do simple stuff like transport his equipment so he paid places to do his maintenance on his trucks. He bought this particular truck used with I believe just over 12k or maybe 15k miles on it and he had put about 10k on it so it was up to around 24k. I asked him if he had fuel filter changes done on it and he didn't know. Even if you have an oil change done, places that do your oil change aren't going to just change the fuel filter(s) unless you specifically ask for it or it's recommended by the place doing the oil change. Since he told me he "didn't know", that would indicate to me that he very likely had NOT had any of the fuel filters changed. And if he didn't even know whether the fuel filters had been changed in his nice Ford F-450 Platinum diesel truck, then my guess is that he likely didn't use any sort of additives either because he probably doesn't even know that you could or should (depending on your opinion on the subject). Also, I believe he stated it was deleted as he mentioned he didn't have to put any DEF in it. How that would work if the DEF system is still installed I don't know but I know there are programs out there to change the tuning and you can remove components if you choose to. I know the EPA and/or government is cracking down a lot harder on various places doing these deletes or businesses offering these "kits" but I just looked up the information of one site that is still offering it for these model years so it's obviously still available and would have been a few years ago. I'm just going off of what he said. I would assume he would know if he had to add DEF fluid or not since he himself would be the one that would need to add that fluid. And my guess is that in the 10k miles he owned the vehicle, he would have HAD to at add DEF fluid at least one time if not a few times during that period otherwise he would have check engine light messages and so on. Anyway.... If a fuel additive wasn't added starting at day 1 of the original ownership or at the very least, his more recent ownership, then I could see how this could have contributed to the problem. Also, an obvious one would be that the fuel filters were likely NOT CHANGED. I know Ford says you can go up to 10k or 12k under "normal service" but if you're hauling trailers on a regular basis like I would assume he was with that truck, then that should have been considered "severe duty" and as such, that cuts the service intervals in 1/2 so really, the fuel filters should be changed every 6k or maybe even every 5k for good measure. Essentially, just changing them when you change the oil at 5k or 6k and that's probably the best option even though it's more expensive. So, for all we know, the previous owners never changed the fuel filters and this new owner didn't change them either so at roughly 24k miles, he was lucky he made it that far ESPECIALLY IF he wasn't using any fuel additive to at least "help" reduce the wear problems that those CP4 fuel injection pumps have. Regarding your research, I'm not going to argue with your figures. And so, I can understand that the majority of owners that have these failures would "LIKELY" see them happen after warranty or after 100k miles. HOWEVER, based on reading many different things on various forums as well as various Facebook groups from owners as well as techs and watching various videos, there are PLENTY of owners having issues under the 100k mark or even within the warranty period. I can't dispute whether there are MORE owners having issues just after or outside of the warranty period or above 100k. But I do know that I have read a lot of issues over the years even with them having low miles on them. So, I don't know how you figure out specific numbers or at the very least, "more precise" numbers as far as owners having issues at say 25k and under, 25k to 50k, 50k to 100k, and 100k and above. I wish we could get those numbers. I know there are a few sites that you can get some of this data from and if you know how to figure out how to be an internet sleuth, you can probably get this data. Or, if you know how to get the info from Ford directly, then you can figure it out from there. But, my guess is that Ford won't allow this data to be published because quite frankly, it would be stupid for them to do so since it hurts their brand's reputation for obvious reasons. But, maybe there are ways to get this information. Even if you couldn't get it from Ford, you could at least get it from the various independent shops around the country that are willing to share this information. Even though this may be a smaller sample size than the Ford dealerships themselves, at least it would be "some" data and you could work off of what you had.

@eldridge201

Жыл бұрын

@@tattooedmillionair Part 2 Moving on though....... Regardless, it's so well documented and there is so much info about this issue over the years that it's pretty laughable that there hasn't been a class action lawsuit that's been handed down at this point. I know there have been talks of there being a lawsuit in the past and there may still be one going on now but at this point, I don't think they've gotten anywhere. One thing I think you might be missing with your thoughts towards the end of your comment is what many others fail to understand and what I think even many techs fail to understand. When you referenced the "starting on day 1" with regard to adding a fuel additive, well....what do you think is happening "starting on day 1" with that pump BUT JUST AS OR MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE REST OF THE FUEL SYSTEM? What I'm getting at simply is that since these pumps are known to have issues and it's been well documented that they are essentially "self imploding" or having their own wear such as delamination or whatever with wearing metal components, what do you think is going to happen to that "wear"? The "wear" being metal shavings. What is happening to those metal shavings when it starts to wear? It's being sent through the fuel system right? So, isn't it being sent through the fuel lines and into the injectors and as such, wouldn't a little bit of it be able to make its way past the injector nozzles? If this is the case, where does that metal go? Into the combustion chamber right? Forgive me if I'm wrong and if the metal shavings are NOT able to make it past the injector nozzles and into the combustion chamber, then my next thoughts are irrelevant and moot. But, if those shavings or "glitter" particles are able to make their way past all the little passages in the injectors, past the injector nozzles, and into the combustion chamber, then what is going to be happening "starting from day 1"? More wear and tear on the cylinder walls, pistons, rings, and etc.. My point is that there will be more wear on the engine as a whole due to this pump. So, if you aren't doing something "starting from day 1" to try to prevent or minimize this additional wear, then what do you think your engine is going to have for wear at the 50k or 75k mark? Personally, I would try to find whatever fuel injection pump self destruction kit or additional fuel line filter kit I could to add to my truck to try to minimize wear. Otherwise, what's the alternative? To me, the alternative is to ALSO consider refreshing or rebuilding the engine at 50k or 100k or whatever the mileage which could be costly. I know there are some "kits" out there but I don't know how good they are at preventing metal shavings or "glitter" from getting into the injectors should these pumps have the issues that they are known to have. Also, I don't know if a fuel additive can provide enough protection or not. I may be wrong on my "theory" that there could be metal "glitter" getting past the injector nozzles.

@tattooedmillionair

Жыл бұрын

@@eldridge201 Wow, that was a lot! I sincerely appreciate your time here. Everything you said here is legitimate and I find agreeable too, but it is all based on your last few lines "... if a fuel additive can provide enough protection...". I do not want to present myself as argumentative, rather I'm just sorting thru data that I have collected (and majority retained in memory) in patches over time such as I am doing with you right now. Anyone stuck in this situation has a right to be heard (and hopefully helped out), but considering that there are 10's of thousands of owners getting the shortest-straw, why (as in why is the pump in that truck failing and not others)? And how many happy owners are out there, not posting "everything is fine", certainly a huge number. As a machinist, but not a mechanic, I find this situation intriguing but as a future owner I find this very concerning. The machinist in me compares the pump to an engine cam shaft lobe (virtually the same component that is causing the fail) and the cp4 uses a roller cam, so in theory there is no rubbing, it just rolls around the surface. In reality, if just for efficiency, both still need lubricant, as even the roller-bearings rolling has internal components under pressure and rolling. As a (most likely) future owner, it is a lot of money for a guy like me to gamble with, but IF it actually is a 7% failure rate, then the odds are overwhelmingly in my favor, or anybody else buying. I see it all pointing to using "Top Tier' grade fuel like the manual says or, yes, a fuel additive lubricant is the edge the system needs to run properly. Also S&S Diesel makes a great kit as well as an impressive replacement/upgrade fuel pump. A little extra insurance is not a bad thing, as you eluded to. Thank you.

Nice rig!! I got a 2001 f2shity 7.tree..all original Michigan truck over 720 thousand miles works construction and plowed every winter of its life...still stroking and purrs like a kitten...13 letter shitspreader INTERNATIONAL best diesel ever made.. remember dodge means to avoid...put hot shots secret in diesel fuel a few times a month keeps injectors clean

Hahaha she hasn't had any weight loss yet. When she looses weight the truck will run better.

Osayi samuel

I owned a 2016 Ram 3500 Cummins Limited with Aisin transmission. Sold it after 2 years of ownership. Never owning another diesel again.

@nbankxworld8614

Жыл бұрын

They can be a pain for sure.