Swedish scientist blames UK Covid spike on lockdown strategy

Sweden's chief epidemiologist has told Channel 4 News that the UK having a lockdown - and then ending it - was probably the biggest cause of a surge in British Covid cases, compared with much lower numbers in Sweden. (Subscribe: bit.ly/C4_News_Subscribe)
Anders Tegnell also confirmed that Boris Johnson sought his advice in a Zoom call last weekend.
Over 500 Covid cases were reported in Sweden today - the biggest daily rise since early July.
But the Swedish government still believes its refusal to lock down was the right decision.
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  • @combatepistemologist8382
    @combatepistemologist83823 жыл бұрын

    I think culture is a big part of it. In Sweden, we're tired of the 2m social distancing. We wish this to be over so we can go back to the Swedish norm of 5m.

  • @Allegra11

    @Allegra11

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bryce Brogan 🤣🤣

  • @vitalis

    @vitalis

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lol you got me there

  • @normalhuman6581

    @normalhuman6581

    3 жыл бұрын

    What's happening in Sweden

  • @sueburns9643

    @sueburns9643

    3 жыл бұрын

    😂 😂 classic

  • @wrenchinator6667

    @wrenchinator6667

    3 жыл бұрын

    I see what you did there.

  • @sspito
    @sspito3 жыл бұрын

    UK has forgotten how to keep calm and carry on.

  • @Schocam

    @Schocam

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's the other way round. Those who do all the covid sop are actually very stressed up. Disinfecting everyday is now an obsessive compulsive disorder. It is fear rather than saving lives. Saving lives is hope. But if you do things with other motives, that is not hope anymore. That is making people mental.

  • @charlesbadoola535

    @charlesbadoola535

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's true :) Panic and hide could be a new one.

  • @iviewthetube

    @iviewthetube

    3 жыл бұрын

    Leaders used to say, "There is nothing to fear but fear itself."

  • @lukedaley17

    @lukedaley17

    3 жыл бұрын

    We sure have

  • @Bgrosz1

    @Bgrosz1

    3 жыл бұрын

    And the United States has forgotten that the only thing to fear is fear itself.

  • @blacksky379
    @blacksky3793 жыл бұрын

    4:18 I feel sorry for the lady who lost her mother. But what a reply she gave. "Who's doing the best? Who's not? I just want us to do the best we can" In a world so divided where people just want to be right and prove others wrong, that's an outstanding reply.

  • @palimpalim5291

    @palimpalim5291

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lots of people died in countries with lockdowns PLUS lots of people lost their livelihoods.

  • @canadaizacorp2203

    @canadaizacorp2203

    3 жыл бұрын

    Many nurses were screaming about the ventilators killing people

  • @CanaryintheCoalMine

    @CanaryintheCoalMine

    3 жыл бұрын

    That is an outstanding reply? No, it isn't, it is terrible, you don't ignore what other countries do right, you look at what is good and bad and you use it to your advantage. Also the clue is in the part where the mother was put in the ventilator, that is what killed her, not the cov. most people that go into a ventilator die from damage to the lungs.

  • @thischanelnolongerexists9041

    @thischanelnolongerexists9041

    3 жыл бұрын

    You have no idea how rare those cases are. So rare infact it literally be so many other lung problems but relabled as covid

  • @zswoop

    @zswoop

    3 жыл бұрын

    @doctordonuthin Hahaha "Don’t worry, just keep reading the headlines" good advice :D

  • @robmanzoni5766
    @robmanzoni57663 жыл бұрын

    Another disappointingly dishonest headline: Dr Tagnall did NOT lay blame anywhere - in fact, he was very careful _not_ to answer your loaded question about blame - but of course, you had to put those words into your headline, anyway... We should not be surprised at the increasing public skepticism; and distrust of the media...

  • @TheBooban

    @TheBooban

    3 жыл бұрын

    2:26 sounds very specific that he says the blame is because of the lockdown.

  • @robmanzoni5766

    @robmanzoni5766

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheBooban I stand corrected...! Thank you I'd just watched a previous video clip on Tegnall, which WAS dishonest; and projected my irritation onto this Channel4 interviewer... Apologies to Ch4...!

  • @dirtysocks_blackcoffee9928

    @dirtysocks_blackcoffee9928

    3 жыл бұрын

    "blame": 'i was part of the problem because I couldn't stay away" I mean what exactly is so enticing that you just cannot abstain from doing for a while. rhetorical question, just forget i asked. but blame is really fucking stupid whenever I have to look at it.

  • @savedfaves

    @savedfaves

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mainstream media and mainstream politicians have been most disappointing this year. Anders and Co. have the only levels heads in Europe by the looks of it. They only country not to panic and to react logically.

  • @TheBooban

    @TheBooban

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@savedfaves well, living in Swedens second largest city, I can say this trusting your citizens to follow guidelines is just bunk. Nobody cares, in that way, out in public. Places are packed. If it was here, we should all have gotten it. Yet the virus hasn’t spread, at least fatally so because everyone is down with a cold or flu recently, including me, twice in a month. The real reason it hasn’t spread is not what the media is saying or Anders is saying.

  • @MrGlogge
    @MrGlogge3 жыл бұрын

    ’’Swedes are taking a chance on their epidemiologist’’ well rather that than on politicians

  • @channelglenn

    @channelglenn

    3 жыл бұрын

    … Take a chance on me

  • @searose6192

    @searose6192

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or politicians masquerading as scientists.

  • @delaineyjohnson8238

    @delaineyjohnson8238

    3 жыл бұрын

    When real scientists actually speak... instead of politicians.

  • @linusjoensson8219

    @linusjoensson8219

    3 жыл бұрын

    He is a politician.

  • @jackieocean3511

    @jackieocean3511

    3 жыл бұрын

    Excellent 😂

  • @jayisvexed
    @jayisvexed3 жыл бұрын

    Straight up lies in the title, this is why the old media is dying

  • @FahadAyaz

    @FahadAyaz

    3 жыл бұрын

    But it got your attention though, didn't it? 😉

  • @MrPetter1000

    @MrPetter1000

    3 жыл бұрын

    KZread is new media

  • @liviiii9185

    @liviiii9185

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MrPetter1000 100%

  • @wtfatc4556

    @wtfatc4556

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MrPetter1000 yes but it suuuuuu**s! tons of ads and creepy algorithms

  • @blauwzakjecrack
    @blauwzakjecrack3 жыл бұрын

    Dr. Anders Tegnell, you should be nominated for the nobel peace price and or the nobel price for medicine. You have proven the world that you are right, and the world was wrong. And the world should thank you for this. Thank you!

  • @GoDaveGo
    @GoDaveGo3 жыл бұрын

    I’m glad Sweden tried a different route. Now we have a point of comparison.

  • @fmac6441

    @fmac6441

    3 жыл бұрын

    I agree that it is essential that countries have several different strategies, but the problem with reporting is the claim that Sweden has far fewer cases. When comparing the numbers per million, the comparison is much closer, and Sweden is worse than its neighbors. www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

  • @GoDaveGo

    @GoDaveGo

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@fmac6441 that’s fair. Really, I don’t think we’ll be able to parse the data for true lessons until later. At least a year from now, maybe longer.

  • @senorpepper3405

    @senorpepper3405

    3 жыл бұрын

    they're the control in our lockdown experiment.

  • @fcukrealmadrid

    @fcukrealmadrid

    3 жыл бұрын

    covid19 death per million is five times world average. 5 covid19 waves already

  • @Leonardo555ZZZ

    @Leonardo555ZZZ

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@fcukrealmadrid Sweden has lower deaths per million than the following countries,,,UK , USA ,Spain ,Panama, Bolivia ,Peru ,Italy ,Chile , Ecuador, Belgium ,Brazil , Mexico and Argentina... Fact is they have done very well. No lockdowns ,no masks..

  • @GuySmiley
    @GuySmiley3 жыл бұрын

    "We will have the virus in our societies naturally, globally for many years and how are we going to live our lives for such a long time and not just surviving but living". She is the first person I've heard say this, exactly what I've been thinking since this began.

  • @darylfoster6133

    @darylfoster6133

    3 жыл бұрын

    There's more to living than just staying alive. Give everyone the choice based on their own risk tolerance.

  • @michaeldentzer7475

    @michaeldentzer7475

    3 жыл бұрын

    Right in the beginning of this nightmare merkel had a moment of truth.She said that eventually 70 - 80 % will catch the virus. I personally think that keeping the health system in place and for yourself a healthy lifestyle is about what can be done

  • @GuySmiley

    @GuySmiley

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@michaeldentzer7475 Exactly, I don't know what everyone else expects to happen honestly. Even if we do find a vaccine, it is never going away.

  • @MrTiti

    @MrTiti

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GuySmiley you are probably as backwards als Michael Dentzer. he has not understood what Merkel said. and you twon make a perfect example of no-brainers

  • @ynotnilknarf39

    @ynotnilknarf39

    3 жыл бұрын

    we won't have 'the virus' in our societies because it never existed to start with.

  • @robertthrailkill1368
    @robertthrailkill13683 жыл бұрын

    I am an ED physician in California. Caught Covid 6 weeks ago from nursing home patient at work. Sick for 3 weeks but back to work now. The lockdown in CA has not worked. Severe economic and social damage in my opinion with little benefit. The Swedes got it right!

  • @henrylicious

    @henrylicious

    3 жыл бұрын

    Indeed. Actions have to involve a proper balance. No issue exists independently.

  • @merry6671

    @merry6671

    3 жыл бұрын

    Did you conclude the lockdown didn't work because you caught Covid-19? People are expected to catch Covid-19. What matters is that it only reaches vulnerable people over an extended period of time so that there's capacity to care for these people, which wouldn't be the case if everybody caught it at the same time.

  • @robertthrailkill1368

    @robertthrailkill1368

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@merry6671 No, I am a physician observer of all this just like you. Covid-19 is an infectious agent from the family of Corona Viruses that can infect virtually all mammals. It easily transmits between people. Government intervention and regulation only slows the spread. Ultimately Covid will infect more people of all ages. Elderly frail and immune compromised will have a regrettable death rate. Dr Fauci’s prediction of 2 million dead in one year thank God did not happen but 200,000 and counting is bad news too. Various states imposed various levels of lock down. California where I live has been very strict and decimated huge sections of the economy. But did CA really do better than other states. NO, IT DID NOT. Our only hope to stop Covid will be antiviral meds and vaccine. So far all we have is decadron, remdesivir and regeneron monoclonal antibody. Trump got all three and his clinical response is truly amazing. Trump benefited from the task force on Corona Virus. I hope others do too. I took decadron and aspirin and took 1 month before really feeling near normal.

  • @teokl6150

    @teokl6150

    2 жыл бұрын

    In WHO's report, Sweden's excess mortality (the fairest criterion when comparing between countries) in 2021 was lower than their neighbours! This is concrete evidence that they've gotten it right. Sweden was relatively spared from covid myopia.

  • @markparfett5380
    @markparfett53803 жыл бұрын

    Mature people. “Why throw dirt on each other” power to you lady! God Bless and I know that you must have happy memories of what must have been a wonderful mother to instill such decency in you.

  • @Haridas991
    @Haridas9913 жыл бұрын

    Well done Sweden...the most courageous people in Europe. May your country and it's people be protected always.

  • @cinderball1135
    @cinderball11353 жыл бұрын

    I think the main lesson Sweden has to teach is very simple: it's easy for a population to follow government guidelines *if they're simple and don't keep changing all the dang time.*

  • @mvtsolar8332

    @mvtsolar8332

    3 жыл бұрын

    it's propaganda, most people under 30 ignored the whole pandemic and spread it to older people, many died and many got long covid.

  • @theresenydahl9531

    @theresenydahl9531

    3 жыл бұрын

    You are so right - consistency is key and the reason why our process in Sweden is so much different from the one in the UK where the government switch it up a lot.

  • @mvtsolar8332

    @mvtsolar8332

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@theresenydahl9531 I have experiences lockdown in the UK and I live in Sweden. In the UK social distancing is meticulously planned in shopping centers and other public places. In Sweden there is no similar planning. Tegnell has given up in trying to contain the spread, and the most of the Swedish population share his pessimism, so measure are half heated at best. In the UK society is trying stop the spread. Sometime to keep ones self respect we have to try even if the task seems impossible. Are you comfortable that society in Sweden only took token measures and watched the elderly die in the thousands in the care homes, also many of the people infected with covid are suffering from "long covid", I bet you don't even know what long covid is.

  • @theresenydahl9531

    @theresenydahl9531

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mvtsolar8332 You sound like a troll per definition🙄 So if UK is so "meticulous" as you say, why do you have the rapidly surging numbers and regional lockdowns right now and why have you surpassed Italy in amount of COVID-19 deaths? You're not making any sense and the last thing people has done here is given up, just watch the clip again to check for yourself and then go back to whatever troll cave you emerged from.

  • @cinderball1135

    @cinderball1135

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@theresenydahl9531 Michael sounds like a troll in what way? He wrote a thoughtful and sensitive post in reply to you, explaining his perspective, including quite a bit of information. I for one found it interesting.

  • @r3sfernjbb
    @r3sfernjbb3 жыл бұрын

    This country obviously has a culture of modesty and that’s why American publications like Time Magazine take advantage and double down on how they were wrong and we were right, Sweden is doing far better in the long run, but they are modest and won’t criticize other countries. Look at the scenes of their public transportation system: clean, no graffiti. This is a much more civilized and intelligent society.

  • @endor8witch

    @endor8witch

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly. Swedes are all raised well. Great non combative culture. Look at how civilised they are!

  • @SimpleManGuitars1973

    @SimpleManGuitars1973

    3 жыл бұрын

    @NobleGuy Actually the vast majority of that death rate was from those who died in nursing homes and their nursing homes are notoriously poorly ran. Take those deaths away and Sweden is way better than everyone else.

  • @ceyarole

    @ceyarole

    3 жыл бұрын

    ​@@SimpleManGuitars1973 WOW, what a discover. Like in any other country, most of the victims are older people from nursing homes. Sweden is in worst top20: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_death_rates_by_country

  • @gytan2221

    @gytan2221

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@endor8witch Just like other Scandinavians

  • @teokl6150

    @teokl6150

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SimpleManGuitars1973 In fact when comparing between countries, excess mortality is a fairer metric. In WHO's report, Sweden's excess mortality is actually lower than their neighbours!

  • @thecrazyandthewild
    @thecrazyandthewild3 жыл бұрын

    "Not just surviving but living" Exactly. Some people in Spain believe that they are going to live forever and they live in the illusion of an artificial security-culture and fear. The irony is that the measures not only are going to create poverty, unhappiness, and mental health issues, but deaths, deaths of young healthy people. Suicides rates are up. The society is totally divided to the point of confrontation, looters come out at night, there is mistrust and paranoia everywhere, and we can't work! By destroying the economy, we are weakening society to the point that if a real dangerous and potencially destructive crisis comes after this one, we will not be able to face it. By destroying the union and trust between people we destroy the very fiber of society. I don't feel part of this society any more. I admire Sweden and your sense of community, common sense, and trust in science and trust in people.

  • @jazzman_10

    @jazzman_10

    3 жыл бұрын

    Totalmente de acuerdo

  • @FRANCESCA01234

    @FRANCESCA01234

    3 жыл бұрын

    Very well put

  • @BiztosAngol

    @BiztosAngol

    3 жыл бұрын

    I am saying the same but people find me crazy

  • @jazzman_10

    @jazzman_10

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BiztosAngol Show them this... www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2020/10/07/covid-19-to-add-as-many-as-150-million-extreme-poor-by-2021

  • @mariaelisaellis3489
    @mariaelisaellis34893 жыл бұрын

    I believe the Swedish government approach is the correct one. They seem to be more level headed than their panic stricken neighbours.

  • @mollers92

    @mollers92

    3 жыл бұрын

    And yet, more deaths and no perceived economic benefit.

  • @rawrsinji

    @rawrsinji

    3 жыл бұрын

    @count ac It's a marathon, not a sprint.

  • @fabiankellquist4630

    @fabiankellquist4630

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mollers92 Less people die longterm and the economy took the smallest hit of all european countrys so why are you lying again?

  • @fabiankellquist4630

    @fabiankellquist4630

    3 жыл бұрын

    @count ac Because many people die early than dial down while other countrys dont. Longterm Sweden is by far the best strategy. And you will see

  • @mariaelisaellis3489

    @mariaelisaellis3489

    3 жыл бұрын

    @count acWhere did you get these figures from?

  • @leahboscher7489
    @leahboscher74893 жыл бұрын

    “Not just surviving but living” read that again people.

  • @thebanable7721

    @thebanable7721

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ving5673 there is many things that will kill you in this world, the only real death is never to truly live

  • @leahboscher7489

    @leahboscher7489

    3 жыл бұрын

    Vin G not worried about covid our hospitals are empty.

  • @hurmur9528

    @hurmur9528

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ving5673 And you will get there to. No one lives forever. The only thing you can control is how you live you life. Swedes are not ignoring the virus. They just try to do deal with it in a strategy that will work long time since the virus aint going anywhere. And do you honestly think that a hard lockdown wont cost lives? Better do social distancing, be home when you are sick, work from home as much as possible and use hand sanitizer.

  • @n0zenzur

    @n0zenzur

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is not very moral approach. If it turned out to be that by not lockdown they will have less dead per population than other countries so they act morally.

  • @persimmon93

    @persimmon93

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just compare Norway and Sweden. Sweden has several times more cases and deaths than Norway.

  • @lenaforsell6713
    @lenaforsell67133 жыл бұрын

    He never blame other countries

  • @richardmccartney2328

    @richardmccartney2328

    3 жыл бұрын

    COVID-19 IS A BIOLOGICAL WEAPON: The purpose of this biological weapon (covid-19) is to destroy the economies of Europe and the United States. The Chinese dead in Wuhan were inevitable human sacrifices in order to create a perfect alibi for not blaming the Chinese biological weapon program for this pandemic. To carry out this biological attack, the Chinese Communist Party was supported by the WHO and the communist regimes of Cuba and North Korea. On January 1, 2020, Kim Jong Un said “The world will witness a new strategic weapon in the near future.” michaelgchandler34blog.wordpress.com/

  • @unitetheworld500
    @unitetheworld5002 жыл бұрын

    Lady who lost her mother, so sorry for your lost. And thank you for your words of calm wisdom. Blessings to all.

  • @ssiso8
    @ssiso83 жыл бұрын

    We’re surviving but not living. She couldn’t have said it better :(

  • @lorannegrech2614

    @lorannegrech2614

    3 жыл бұрын

    My exact thoughts! I think we're just existing! This is not living!

  • @lulunz6809

    @lulunz6809

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lorannegrech2614 well now with over 500 more deaths in a day, perhaps surviving this is going to be the ultimate goal towards being able to live well again.

  • @lorannegrech2614

    @lorannegrech2614

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lulunz6809 hope we'll be able to survive this damned virus! We are having 3 /4 deaths in a day but considering the size of my country it is still a huge number.!!!

  • @lulunz6809

    @lulunz6809

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lorannegrech2614 I am more than shocked at how quickly the numbers have risen there. I am so sorry for the people who are very concerned and ridiculed for taking measures to protect themselves, when the rest of the country, think they are being over-cautious. Please keep yourself safe and know that your lives are as valuable to me as my neighbours and fellow citizens here. Take care.

  • @lorannegrech2614

    @lorannegrech2614

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lulunz6809 you too my dear friend! I am really worried about my family, myself & all the people of the world as we are all brothers & sisters. Stay safe.

  • @MichaelPetersFenwicks
    @MichaelPetersFenwicks3 жыл бұрын

    UK Government covide strategy has been a disaster.

  • @PaulAlexander-tokyomagic

    @PaulAlexander-tokyomagic

    3 жыл бұрын

    Its what the people voted for.

  • @fpl-faer

    @fpl-faer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Michael Peters Fenwicks there’s plenty more to come. Boris and his cronies are guilty of 45k+ of manslaughter

  • @richardmccartney2328

    @richardmccartney2328

    3 жыл бұрын

    COVID-19 IS A BIOLOGICAL WEAPON: The purpose of this biological weapon (covid-19) is to destroy the economies of Europe and the United States. The Chinese dead in Wuhan were inevitable human sacrifices in order to create a perfect alibi for not blaming the Chinese biological weapon program for this pandemic. To carry out this biological attack, the Chinese Communist Party was supported by the WHO and the communist regimes of Cuba and North Korea. On January 1, 2020, Kim Jong Un said “The world will witness a new strategic weapon in the near future.” michaelgchandler34blog.wordpress.com/

  • @mrvideouploader7

    @mrvideouploader7

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wait they had a strategy?

  • @nicadi2005

    @nicadi2005

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@richardmccartney2328 *"COVID-19 IS A BIOLOGICAL WEAPON"* - Evidence?! "The purpose of this biological weapon (covid-19) is to destroy the economies of Europe and the United States." - 1) COVID-19 is the name for the disease caused by the novel virus SARS-CoV-2. So which is the "biological weapon" again? 2) How will China safeguard its own economy (which is ENTIRELY dependent on the other two superpowers)? "The Chinese dead in Wuhan were inevitable human sacrifices in order to create a perfect alibi for not blaming the Chinese biological weapon program for this pandemic." - *No amount of human sacrifices will EVER prevent Internet CRETINS from coming up with the most ludicrous 'conspiracy theories' by which to blame others for their intellectual inadequacy (and overwhelming scientific illiteracy)!* You are very much a living example of that, aren't you?... 😉 "To carry out this biological attack, the Chinese Communist Party was supported by the WHO and the communist regimes of Cuba and North Korea." - In what way have Cuba and North Korea contributed to this plan? "On January 1, 2020, Kim Jong Un said “The world will witness a new strategic weapon in the near future.”"- Why would the masterminds behind this plan ALLOW one of THEIR OWN allies to come forth and PUBLICLY brag about their group's intentions (which they clearly would want to keep secret)?!? How would the guilty party manage to escape unscathed from the wrath of its (former) allies afterwards?!?

  • @nickduffield7604
    @nickduffield76043 жыл бұрын

    Really sensible answers from the Swedish people interviewed. They were given every opportunity to criticise other countries but chose not to. Respectable.

  • @ralph9182

    @ralph9182

    3 жыл бұрын

    Normal?

  • @glowingowl221
    @glowingowl2213 жыл бұрын

    Wow 🤩 it’s refreshing to hear officials not sounding like complete egotistical narcissists in interviews , like they do in the US

  • @obi-wankenobi8446

    @obi-wankenobi8446

    Жыл бұрын

    Like they do in almost every single European country

  • @premonitions1390
    @premonitions13903 жыл бұрын

    The experts truly had the overall health of their citizens in mind. Bravo! Not so here in Canada where the police have been routinely interrogating and ticketing people for doing normal things.

  • @FineDayWasted
    @FineDayWasted3 жыл бұрын

    I live in Sweden and this man is my hero. He took so much flak in the early days.

  • @FineDayWasted

    @FineDayWasted

    3 жыл бұрын

    EDITS how? Draconian personal and economic measures kill far more than this virus so deadly you need a test. Use your brain.

  • @atheos5748

    @atheos5748

    3 жыл бұрын

    Maybe he took "flak" because he's been wrong about almost everything he's said to the public? tegnellcitat.se/ Or maybe it was the leaked emails showing he doesn't know what he's doing? Or maybe... because he is responsible for the deaths than more than all countries around Sweden put together.

  • @lepet76

    @lepet76

    3 жыл бұрын

    EDITS - how can you blame one man for risking lives? Do your OWN decernment and take your OWN responsability. People are like small children who think the government are their saviour and parents - its insane!!!!

  • @FineDayWasted

    @FineDayWasted

    3 жыл бұрын

    Atheos you sound like someone who watches too much msm. Either that or you work for the WHO?

  • @ankicat3425

    @ankicat3425

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hej, hur är det i Sverige nu? Jag pratar med min mamma via mail. Sorry you might not understand Swedish? Sorry for assuming

  • @mauricebrereton7662
    @mauricebrereton76623 жыл бұрын

    This is typical main stream reporting, I wish they'd just accept the fact that Sweden got it right and the UK has got it wrong. Instead of trying to pick holes in Sweden's strategy they should be asking questions of our government how they got it wrong!

  • @MrBoybergs

    @MrBoybergs

    3 жыл бұрын

    The critical difference is that in general, Swedes have a more pragmatic and less instinctively critical attitude to government decisions. Over here, Johnson was castigated for his dithering and inertia at the start of the pandemic and is now being criticized for both too little action and simultaneously, for initiating measures that are considered too draconian. It was and still is politically impossible in the UK to even consider a herd immunity approach to tackling the virus. As deaths increase, the herd immunity strategy would be overwhelmingly condemned to a point whereby a government U-turn would be inevitable. We would never even reach the point where it would be possible to look back and assess the success/failure of such a strategy.

  • @michaelgove9349

    @michaelgove9349

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sweden didn't get it right. Their COVID death rate per head of population is the 5th highest in Europe. The UK's is the 3rd highest, so you're comparing got-it-wrong with got-it-very-wrong.

  • @mauricebrereton7662

    @mauricebrereton7662

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@michaelgove9349 It's more than just about covid deaths, Sweden's economy is fine but the UK's is in tatters and everyone bar the government seems to know this.

  • @mauricebrereton7662

    @mauricebrereton7662

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@michaelgove9349 brexit hasn't happened yet, covid has. Would you like to explain ?

  • @mauricebrereton7662

    @mauricebrereton7662

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Jeri Brown money over people? I don't understand what you mean, would you like to expand on that?

  • @benthomas8771
    @benthomas87713 жыл бұрын

    This presenter seems a little biased with his leading questions trying to get the woman to critisize Sweden's approach, implying that they're stupid for the measures they put in place etc

  • @alexreg

    @alexreg

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yep, but it's Channel 4, so what do you expect...

  • @LLLLLLLLLucas

    @LLLLLLLLLucas

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lockdown is peddled by socialist left wing media

  • @cbrboy17
    @cbrboy173 жыл бұрын

    The difference is the Swedish government are for the people and take care of people. Not like Canada and USA.

  • @fabioribeiro5071

    @fabioribeiro5071

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is a UK news channel.

  • @shanchan8247

    @shanchan8247

    3 жыл бұрын

    The video is about Sweden

  • @jackjackthompson5771

    @jackjackthompson5771

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also, just like in Canada, Sweden had a huge % of deaths in long term care homes.... fyi

  • @cbrboy17

    @cbrboy17

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jackjackthompson5771 oh I know. My wife is a quality lead nurse and her sister facility lost 50 residents. The government response was a joke. There was a ppe hotline that was setup that facilities could call for ppe, great right? The line was disconnected due to high volume of calls. What each country did the first 3 months was manage best they could. Now though they should have their act together, guess what? Nope. Not in Ontario anyway.

  • @jackjackthompson5771

    @jackjackthompson5771

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@cbrboy17 Wow, that's terrible, sorry to hear it. tell your wife we appreciate her!!

  • @Troublenut
    @Troublenut3 жыл бұрын

    UK lockdown was not ‘very strict’. Try being in a country where you weren’t even allowed out to walk outside.

  • @AngelaH2222

    @AngelaH2222

    3 жыл бұрын

    Try comparing UK lockdown to Italy or France or China ,

  • @AngelaH2222

    @AngelaH2222

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Mohammad Rahman where are you living ?

  • @nopagopremium3251

    @nopagopremium3251

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Mohammad Rahman bro just go outside, or do the police arrest you? I'm in Mexico and I still do the things I did before, not even think about the pandemic

  • @jwadaow

    @jwadaow

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Mohammad Rahman you should write a novel. That was gripping.

  • @lawrencebrown3677

    @lawrencebrown3677

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nopagopremium3251 That is the only way and it is the correct one. Carry on as normal, just ignore the abnormal.

  • @katipunerongkuba
    @katipunerongkuba3 жыл бұрын

    First it was flatten the curve..now its flatten the economy..

  • @savedfaves

    @savedfaves

    3 жыл бұрын

    Flatten the curve for two weeks-7 months ago.

  • @IC.XC.NI.KA.

    @IC.XC.NI.KA.

    3 жыл бұрын

    All along it was flatten Trump. If Trump would not have been president now, this political hogwash would not have existed because Hillary Clinton is China's daughter in law...

  • @a.ericschlobohm97
    @a.ericschlobohm972 жыл бұрын

    Way to go Sweden!!!

  • @rageraptor7127
    @rageraptor71273 жыл бұрын

    “She was just 69 when she died” American life expectancy: *nervously sweating*

  • @olp6914

    @olp6914

    2 жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @rasmasyean
    @rasmasyean3 жыл бұрын

    Sweden Obesity Rate: 20.60% United Kingdom Obesity Rate: 27.80%

  • @Anewuser_6282

    @Anewuser_6282

    3 жыл бұрын

    United States Obesity Rate: 36.6% www.ama-assn.org/delivering-care/public-health/adult-obesity-rates-rise-6-states-exceed-35-7

  • @rachequinn9299

    @rachequinn9299

    3 жыл бұрын

    Massive This is a big clue! Sadly most wont get it!

  • @rasmasyean

    @rasmasyean

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Anewuser_6282 and...USA just beat UK in deaths per capita and is still climbing steadily as it spreads to the more rural states. www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

  • @1bertoselastrae

    @1bertoselastrae

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glasgow's obesity rate, 99%

  • @andym9571

    @andym9571

    3 жыл бұрын

    @heartfulenergy it's true. The 3 people that I know that have had it bad....are all obese !

  • @TheDolphace
    @TheDolphace3 жыл бұрын

    That's not rush hour, that's a quiet day on the London underground 🤣

  • @realwolf770

    @realwolf770

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's exactly why it doesn't spread as fast. Sweden has roughly 10 million people, London has almost 9 million. Quite obvious that it'll spread slower when there's fewer people living per square kilometer.

  • @kevinconn4641
    @kevinconn46413 жыл бұрын

    I see that Sweden didn't try to take the power and freedom from the people. They let adults choose how they would deal with it. And it worked great!

  • @veronika5901

    @veronika5901

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nicely written, totally agree.

  • @kyriljordanov2086
    @kyriljordanov20863 жыл бұрын

    I have a new respect for the Swedes. "Not just surviving but living". She said it so well.

  • @jamesrichardson3500
    @jamesrichardson35003 жыл бұрын

    My dad died at 62, from complications of a cancer recovery and chest infection........it changed my life and it's horrific, but death is a part of life. We have no lives to speak of anymore.

  • @trekkienzl2862
    @trekkienzl28623 жыл бұрын

    Responses to COVID-19 by country: * 🇸🇪 Sweden: No lockdown but basic social distancing measures * 🇺🇳 Rest of the world: Lockdown everything and enforce mandatory social distancing * 🇬🇧 UK: Change lockdown and social distancing regulations every week or so, but don't adequately notify the public if it changes, also be very vague about certain details

  • @0xCAFEF00D

    @0xCAFEF00D

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have a question. What does lockdown mean? It's extremely hard to pin down with people. Sweden closed high schools before summer because the risks to that population and their contribution to spread was unknown at the time. The government also passed legislation so they could close secondary and primary schools if they wish but they haven't yet (local governments control that normally). And they recommend you work from home if you can. I see these steps as being a lockdown. At least part of it. Where's the line? Not all governments recommended face masks during their peaks. So it can't be that either. And everyone is told to stay at home and get tested when they have symptoms. Something we've never seen that can classify as lockdown in my view is fines for not complying with what's recommendations here. I'm in Sweden and the way I see it we have a lockdown. Commuters in Stockholm like pictured early on in the video is the only place that's a significant risk outside workplaces/schools according to what our public health officials are saying. People sitting in the open air at park benches isn't a risk at large scales. Same with restaurants assuming proper spacing (government closed some restaurants for failing at this). What's a lockdown if we don't have it?

  • @susansherlock7474

    @susansherlock7474

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@0xCAFEF00D you decide what you want to do? In the UK the government decides what you are to obey...

  • @fritzhaber3994

    @fritzhaber3994

    3 жыл бұрын

    You forgot to add, that Sweden also practices a euthanasia policy on their elderly, should they be infected. Not that it would surprise anyone who knew that Sweden was practicing eugenics about 40 years longer than Germany.

  • @ruthacheson8604

    @ruthacheson8604

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@fritzhaber3994 In the UK old people were moved out of hospitals and into care homes where covid was running riot...then not allowed back into hospital...not only the UK, I wouldn’t be surprised if it didn’t happen in much of Europe. People living in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones!

  • @HappyBagger
    @HappyBagger3 жыл бұрын

    Tegnell is smart, even with his diplomacy "what did you say to Boris" "I won't say" "If I was Boris, what would you say" "I'd say 'look at other countries'" If they had protected all those 70 and 80 year olds in care homes better earlier, their results would be totally indeniable

  • @roosterbooster6238

    @roosterbooster6238

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Sven Larsson ha ha det stämmer för ungdomar i Storbritannien att de vill vara den nästa pew pew på youtube..

  • @mistabionerd8813

    @mistabionerd8813

    3 жыл бұрын

    Japan? Singapore? Sverige inte elska aldre folk

  • @mistabionerd8813

    @mistabionerd8813

    3 жыл бұрын

    Problem with Swedes is despite education, there is a very conformist mindset.

  • @davidarthurkingsworth9683
    @davidarthurkingsworth96833 жыл бұрын

    “The world is like a herd of ostriches; Sweden is the ostrich that refused to hide it’s head underground and face the problem. The other ostriches are not just fooler, but also more vulnerable”

  • @jaquesravalec242

    @jaquesravalec242

    3 жыл бұрын

    More people died there than in locked down Norway.

  • @davidarthurkingsworth9683

    @davidarthurkingsworth9683

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jaquesravalec242 indeed, the dead rate by covid-19 was high, but how is it now? What is the purpose of the lockdown? Prevent the transmission of the virus while the ill ones are medically treated . That is naive, considering the size of the virus. I’ve heard by several respectable scientists the obvious, the virus’ll spread on the 100% of population. The Swedish model was just smarter

  • @RayThackeray

    @RayThackeray

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@davidarthurkingsworth9683 Getting worse very fast. Sweden is now reconsidering its entire approach.

  • @davidarthurkingsworth9683

    @davidarthurkingsworth9683

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RayThackeray look the whole equation, not just some numbers or details. What is the point? The virus is really small, so it is everywhere, soon or late, everyone will be infected by it. It doesn’t matter how things are going on now, the point is the future.

  • @RayThackeray

    @RayThackeray

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@davidarthurkingsworth9683 Your bullshit is completely repudiated by every epidemiologist except the idiot in Sweden who is being proven wrong and getting sidelined.

  • @alexajones2593
    @alexajones25933 жыл бұрын

    Look at all the Walking they do! Look at the people they appear moderate in size. You don’t seem to see obese people! They probably have a healthier life style and more nutritional Food options not so much processed boxed up food.

  • @mark.e.p

    @mark.e.p

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly my man. Covid deaths are pretty much self inflicted. Look at all the fat unfit people especially up North hence why more deaths.

  • @briansparks8528

    @briansparks8528

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Ms Taylor Yes definitely smoking is a bad habit when you are dealing a upper lung tract disease...... common sense really

  • @coffeebucket54

    @coffeebucket54

    3 жыл бұрын

    Look at how they use the escalator, and 0:21 the cameraman is the only guy going opposite way in that lane, everyone else use the left lane. Swede are Japanese in Nordic skin !

  • @alexajones2593

    @alexajones2593

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hilfiger Exactly!

  • @briansparks8528

    @briansparks8528

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Ms Taylor Even worse if your smoking at a party

  • @venomtailOG
    @venomtailOG3 жыл бұрын

    Sweden has done the right thing. Not only is it the more appropriate decition but also they don't lock down a nation to protect a an old population that doesn't socialise or go out in the first place

  • @LuckyM83
    @LuckyM833 жыл бұрын

    I'm italian and I'm seriously considering migrate in sweden. The last oasis of the planet

  • @andreachioda1732

    @andreachioda1732

    3 жыл бұрын

    Quanto ti capisco!!!

  • @PureVikingPowers

    @PureVikingPowers

    3 жыл бұрын

    Swedish girls love Italian guys 👍🏻

  • @karmie87

    @karmie87

    3 жыл бұрын

    @rachel hutchinson my sister and I are seriously looking to buy a home there now. Uk is a fascist state and I can’t see it ending soon

  • @pumpkingamebox

    @pumpkingamebox

    3 жыл бұрын

    Japan and Switzerland are also good options. Perhaps even New Zealand, it stretch far away from all the crazy things of the world, lol.

  • @karmie87

    @karmie87

    3 жыл бұрын

    @John Mitchell Oh, shut up you insufferable pedant. Fascism doesn’t always start with political violence- indeed many political movements take time to impregnate their aims and philosophy into the consciousness of the population. I can see where things are going and it’s eerily similar to how several other fascistic regimes began historically.

  • @mylesayakawa2234
    @mylesayakawa22343 жыл бұрын

    "Cafes, restaurants, and shops never shut here. Instead, Swedes did as they were told on social distancing and good hygiene."

  • @frankgarrett242

    @frankgarrett242

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah. They were certainly 'social distancing' in that subway station. You're an idiot.

  • @tetleydidley

    @tetleydidley

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@frankgarrett242 Nah I'm pretty sure you're the idiot.

  • @frankgarrett242

    @frankgarrett242

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tetleydidley What are you? Five years old?

  • @tetleydidley

    @tetleydidley

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@frankgarrett242 Aww that's generous but I'm not that precocious kind sir. But you may need to take that person, woman, man, camera, TV test!

  • @tetleydidley

    @tetleydidley

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Lego Head Calling someone who literally just quotes the video without any additions or interpretations whatsoever an idiot is using "reason"? Many people but not enough humans? People who disagree with you are farmed salmon? Whoaahh... Bring real arguments to the table without insulting people then probably people will start listening to your reasons.

  • @Honeymoonwhispers
    @Honeymoonwhispers3 жыл бұрын

    “Did she call you?” Such a cruel question which he knew the answer to. What a monster.

  • @s.andrewchandler-byrne4611

    @s.andrewchandler-byrne4611

    3 жыл бұрын

    Journalist in this country are dim and lack empathy.

  • @jak743

    @jak743

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wanted to make some drama and bring some tears for the video but it backfired

  • @s.andrewchandler-byrne4611

    @s.andrewchandler-byrne4611

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jak743 I agree Jak. That must of hurt, but the lady answered the question calmly and collectively.

  • @TheJainmehul

    @TheJainmehul

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was triggered when he made that question at that moment. Very insensitive!

  • @s.andrewchandler-byrne4611

    @s.andrewchandler-byrne4611

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheJainmehul He knew what he was asking the lady and he knew that question would of upset her.

  • @smurf8526
    @smurf85263 жыл бұрын

    "Millions can't be wrong. Unless they're British" - Bitpanda

  • @DiabloDevilsBA
    @DiabloDevilsBA3 жыл бұрын

    Just come here to ask him now what ?! Sweden officially announced they have failed!

  • @rockman4699

    @rockman4699

    3 жыл бұрын

    Where are all the people now who said Sweden got it right?

  • @DiabloDevilsBA

    @DiabloDevilsBA

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rockman4699 I hope they are well 😂

  • @nathaniel6087
    @nathaniel60873 жыл бұрын

    As a Canadian 🇨🇦 I have respect for Sweden 🇸🇪

  • @renebaez
    @renebaez3 жыл бұрын

    Man, I can feel the envy from this reporter and the rest of the world. The more the time passes by, the more the Swedes are proven right.

  • @yofiesetiawan
    @yofiesetiawan3 жыл бұрын

    Lockdown and facemask is a false security. Lockdown or no lockdown the death statistic pretty much the same.

  • @shizuokaBLUES

    @shizuokaBLUES

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agree and disagree. Here in Japan (I’m a Canadian here ) and we don’t do lockdowns BUT do ubiquitously wear masks. Everyone is on board with that. But it’s business as usual with restaurants doing good business surprisingly. And 120 million people crammed into a space the size of California and on the busiest trains in the world but only 1650 deaths so far. That’s it... It can only be explained rationally by the masks. I actually feel lucky to live here.

  • @kenseisato1989

    @kenseisato1989

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@shizuokaBLUES I believe one of the biggest contributions are their diet and health. People over there in 1st world Asian countries like South Korea and Japan walk every where and their daily diet consists of healthy and balanced meals. In the US we have donuts, fast food and soda for breakfast. Drive around everywhere. pretty much rotting from the inside out. The people that I know that got it were old timers who smoked and takeout or people who are morbidly obese who ate nothing but comfort food.

  • @shizuokaBLUES

    @shizuokaBLUES

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kenseisato1989 here in japan I witness this daily and completely agree with you. In addition there is the factor of 発酵食品 -fermented foods (sorry I can’t assume you read Japanese ) and gut health/biome. As for now it’s a theory but I suspect that, when this pandemic gets under control and the research can focus more on correlational relationships outside of the immediate factors, we will see diet and particularly fermented foods and low meat/sugar levels having more impact, as you wrote. For now I consider myself lucky to have immediate access to kimchi, natto, miso, and even sauerkraut. And am raising my intake to promote my own gut health. Yes good point Kensei

  • @vornamenachname1069

    @vornamenachname1069

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@shizuokaBLUES It's the same reason as to why the elderly population in Africa isn't hit so hard. They have a better diet, move around more and are more outside (some of the chronic problems after a Covid or Influenza infection may be due to a mold toxicosis caused by living in a contaminated apartment, eating too much contaminated grain products or having the mold infect or colonize you during a viral infection (as then, the immune system is more prone to opportunistic pathogens). The consumtion of different sugars and artificial sweeteners is also changing the gut biome. And the overuse of antibiotics in mass animal farms and thus contamination of the meat with antibiotics or different bacterial or fungal toxins caused by infections may alternate the gut biome too or have negative impact on your health. The Japanese diet however involves more micro plastics as you guys eat lots of fish and the oceans are quite contaminated with those extremely small plastic particles. But it seems as if those plastic has not such a huge impact on health or the gut micro biome. (it may be because plastic is quite hard to digest for almost all micro organisms except some very few which (usually) don't live in your gut)

  • @yofiesetiawan

    @yofiesetiawan

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's just a matter of time for everyone in this earth to get their body visited by COVID-19. The question is, when the time comes, is your body ready or not. If you have a good immune system, pretty much nothing gonna happen.

  • @UncleTimTheHermit
    @UncleTimTheHermit3 жыл бұрын

    It's too bad more countries didn't do this, then we'd have a bigger control group.

  • @O-.-O

    @O-.-O

    3 жыл бұрын

    And the 6000 deaths?

  • @UncleTimTheHermit

    @UncleTimTheHermit

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@O-.-O If we spent half this energy on basically any other disease (malaria, E Coli, ebola) we could save a lot more lives. Covid is not this big of a threat.

  • @tectorama
    @tectorama3 жыл бұрын

    Sweden was held up as an example of how other countries should have responded to the virus.It now turns out not to be the case, and fortunate that we didn't follow their example." ....In Sweden, thirteen thousand people have died from COVID-19. In Norway, which has a population that is half the size of Sweden’s, and where stricter lockdowns were enforced, about seven hundred people have died...."

  • @SlyFan-mp8dc
    @SlyFan-mp8dc3 жыл бұрын

    I absolutely love the USA despite its faults, but I can't recall the last time I've ever been so envious of another country.

  • @genocidejoe

    @genocidejoe

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sweden land of the free home of the brave

  • @biomorphic

    @biomorphic

    3 жыл бұрын

    Trump has been forced to lockdown, otherwise USA would have followed the same approach of Sweden. But when you have all the country telling you are stupid because you think differently, and you are the President, you have to conform to the widely accepted opinion. It's politic.

  • @leaflover9625

    @leaflover9625

    3 жыл бұрын

    Really! It seemed strange to see all those people walking in the metro without masks on.

  • @banterbeards8967
    @banterbeards89673 жыл бұрын

    From the outside Sweden seems like a modern utopia built on intelligence rather than financial gain.

  • @irisnousi3342
    @irisnousi33423 жыл бұрын

    " not surviving but living " ....

  • @ChamaleeSemasingheDutchy
    @ChamaleeSemasingheDutchy3 жыл бұрын

    Lower death rate compared to UK doesn’t guarantee that Sweden’s approach is the right one. Adopting Sweden’s approach by other countries could be disastrous.

  • @paul_the_merciful
    @paul_the_merciful3 жыл бұрын

    Sweden has the best strategy...

  • @Mackem_mulletman

    @Mackem_mulletman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly it really does Boris needs to take notes

  • @fritzhaber3994

    @fritzhaber3994

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lol, practicing euthanasia on a large scale for no good reason whatsoever?

  • @Station9.75

    @Station9.75

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@fritzhaber3994 - Pardon? Watch until the video shows you their second wave death stats compared to ours.

  • @vidard9863

    @vidard9863

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@fritzhaber3994 the problem with your theory is that they a) first had a much older population. So they should have been massacred, only that is not what the current evidence suggests. B) realistically they had no reason to assume that a vaccine would be coming as soon as this one seems to be coming, carried out over the usual five year vaccine schedule mandatory lockdowns would likely cause more deaths, and already Sweden has fewer deaths per 100k than many countries with much younger populations.

  • @fritzhaber3994

    @fritzhaber3994

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Station9.75 Their second wave just started, several weeks after the rest of Europe. You do realise, that deaths are lagging after confirmed diagnoses by 4-6 weeks after 8 months in this, right?

  • @Lipo
    @Lipo3 жыл бұрын

    Swedish political leadership is smart.

  • @20alphabet

    @20alphabet

    3 жыл бұрын

    On this one thing, yes.

  • @tonyquinn3882

    @tonyquinn3882

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not where islam is concerned, I'm afraid.

  • @Djur2844

    @Djur2844

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Amish community (in the US) were asked why the coronavirus was Not effecting them. They said we do not have television ... In Sweden the coronavirus have disappeared since they started following alternative media

  • @michelmansour7476

    @michelmansour7476

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Djur2844 Have you ever been to Sweden, there are two websites that everyone uses for news and no one uses anything else. Those two are aftonbladet and expressen so you're lying.

  • @Djur2844

    @Djur2844

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@michelmansour7476 ... The reality is that very few Swedes read aftonbladet or expressen. They are Swedish version of CNN (US MSM) so no, I´m not reading any of them! By the way ... I`m a Swede

  • @gedamco
    @gedamco3 жыл бұрын

    I can see the reporter is kind of annoyed by the way Sweden has successfully handled the situation without resorting to draconian measures, unlike most other countries. And that seems to bother him. Since July 14th, Sweden has rarely reported double-digit death totals, something completely different from the UK.

  • @Pinkpanther100x
    @Pinkpanther100x3 жыл бұрын

    I would like to see a show about all the people who died because of the lockdown not the virus i will hold my breath

  • @LOVEMUZIK4LIFE
    @LOVEMUZIK4LIFE3 жыл бұрын

    Doesn't matter what these scientist and health professionals say. Our politicians are not listening.

  • @elingdreamer94

    @elingdreamer94

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's not just politicians that are not listening, unfortunately common folks does not too .

  • @wookyungkim5507

    @wookyungkim5507

    3 жыл бұрын

    We should make them listen if they don't.

  • @elingdreamer94

    @elingdreamer94

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@wookyungkim5507 easier said and done . And even they listen it's hard to change someone mind if there have a misinformation that they believe in .

  • @wookyungkim5507

    @wookyungkim5507

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@elingdreamer94 Yes but if we don't ever try, we'll end up getting DNA-changing vaccines...

  • @nourishheallove
    @nourishheallove3 жыл бұрын

    But we all know that there is really only a spike in testing. A faulty testing system no less.

  • @pcuimac

    @pcuimac

    3 жыл бұрын

    BS. We have a second spike in cases in Germany and we test at the same level since August/September.

  • @fritzhaber3994

    @fritzhaber3994

    3 жыл бұрын

    @MrJuggernaute You aren't the brightest one either.

  • @foedeer
    @foedeer3 жыл бұрын

    Wish australia had the same mentality instead of slapping us with a massive legacy debt.

  • @myronkroeker6877

    @myronkroeker6877

    3 жыл бұрын

    Canada; hold my drink, mate.

  • @ghost368vs4
    @ghost368vs43 жыл бұрын

    respect to Sweden

  • @cristeaadrian7419
    @cristeaadrian74193 жыл бұрын

    If stay home save lifes goverment supposed to start by giving a home to every homeless person.Homeless are not all dead ,are on the rise and more will be kicked in the streets.

  • @hunchanchoc8418

    @hunchanchoc8418

    3 жыл бұрын

    Best turn up at Dover in a dinghy and pretend to be foreign, then. You'll be put-up for free in a 4-star hotel and fed, and given spending money on top.

  • @teresaniumata2742
    @teresaniumata27423 жыл бұрын

    Good on you,Sweden and good luck.

  • @dogstar167
    @dogstar1679 ай бұрын

    I think it's important to point out they were in fact correct

  • @nerdyali4154
    @nerdyali41543 жыл бұрын

    We already know that they were right. This report assumes that the only valid criteria are infection and death rates, but it is obvious that the economic consequences of lockdown need to be factored in and the Swedes are way better off in that regard. If one were to make a moral argument about balancing money and death rates one would be ignoring the fact that such calculations are made every day by countries with public health services. The amounts of money involved in policy decisions about dispensing high cost life saving drugs are much less than the cost of lockdowns.

  • @phyllisspringer7287
    @phyllisspringer72873 жыл бұрын

    Why have the Swedes done better? Herd immunity may have been the right thing to do. Let the young people get it keep the vulnerable home.

  • @prosectura01
    @prosectura013 жыл бұрын

    It's hilarious how Sweden is praised for being the best or laughed at for being the worst depending on situation in the exact point in time. Interesting experiment though, but my opinion is that any strategy in general could be decent if consistently followed through

  • @MsAnpassad

    @MsAnpassad

    3 жыл бұрын

    We are not the ones experimenting. We are following the science, not political motives or emotions. :)

  • @teokl6150

    @teokl6150

    2 жыл бұрын

    In WHO's report, Sweden's excess mortality (the fairest criterion when comparing between countries) in 2021 was lower than their neighbours! This is concrete evidence that they've gotten it right. Sweden was relatively spared from covid myopia.

  • @whomadethewordword5035
    @whomadethewordword50353 жыл бұрын

    You need to talk about percentages not numbers for each country, you can’t compare with numbers alone.

  • @Mike-uw2cx

    @Mike-uw2cx

    3 жыл бұрын

    True, plus stats on people per square km. Here in the UK, there are more people in London than the whole of New Zealand.

  • @ThomasSselate

    @ThomasSselate

    3 жыл бұрын

    That’s what they did in this video. It was a ratio (not percent but per thousand)

  • @fatamorgana8939
    @fatamorgana89393 жыл бұрын

    Anyone else in lockdown Britain watching this wishing our government would've taken this route? Watching this made me cry, the scenes of people carrying on with their everyday lives, shopping, going to work, eating at cafes. I remember how it felt to be able to walk freely about like that, to go places and to enjoy life... it made me feel like a bird in a cage watching birds outside fly around free. When will this madness end?

  • @nellsonogmore5938

    @nellsonogmore5938

    3 жыл бұрын

    More people would have died.

  • @aratneerg1375

    @aratneerg1375

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me me me me. That type of thinking is why u suffer.

  • @sarabulanda2363

    @sarabulanda2363

    3 жыл бұрын

    I completely understand, when you’re in a shop you don’t know if you can walk past someone or if they will shout at you for walking too close to them, if you cough or sneeze everyone looks at you like you’re diseased, it’s horrific, but there’s hope all things come to an end, this won’t last forever

  • @AnnaLVajda
    @AnnaLVajda3 жыл бұрын

    So the care homes were the main issue just like most countries obviously the most vulnerable are the most vulnerable.

  • @1974Slipper
    @1974Slipper3 жыл бұрын

    Why would you do what’s never been done before? Cause you’re sensible that’s why. Well done the Sweeeeedzzz

  • @JackFury

    @JackFury

    3 жыл бұрын

    Why are you comparing Sweden to the UK rather than Norway or Finland

  • @JackFury

    @JackFury

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DivineMedicus what?

  • @theaveragejoe6854

    @theaveragejoe6854

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DivineMedicus actually you need to look at how previous years rolling excess deaths looked for those other countries. Sweden was 4 thousand deaths below average last year. The other countries around it were not. So that means more comorbid people were living into 2020 than normal in Sweden. Hence the high initial death rate. But if you look now Sweden is fairing pretty well.

  • @theaveragejoe6854

    @theaveragejoe6854

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DivineMedicus per capita isn't a suffiecent argument. The same way we can just blanket compare per capita death rates between the UK and Sweden. It makes logical sense that if your deaths per year the previous year was 4 thousand below average you will have a higher amount of people making it into 2020 who would have died from a strong flu/respiratory illness. The other countries besides Sweden didn't have below average years last year. Hence why they didn't have an excess of comibid people in 2020 to cause a bigger spike. Also Sweden has 20% of its population about 70. Compared to just 10% in the UK. Sweden had a high rate because of the soft previous years and it's large aged population . Also it takes 23 days for death to begin..meaning that even if Sweden locked down when the other nordics did they would have already had the virus out in the community and spread. So that first spike was baked in. Regardless of lockdowns or not.

  • @maxkorsbackful
    @maxkorsbackful3 жыл бұрын

    The "all power to Tegnell, our savior" is clearly satire. It's a referrence to a fairytale by Astrid Lindgren (the Brothers Lionheart) in which that is the password to be let into the big city where the dictator precides. The dictator in the story is called Tengill.

  • @aratneerg1375

    @aratneerg1375

    3 жыл бұрын

    I hope it is satire. My god. How long did those that died pay really high taxes for? To be left to die. Thats criminal.

  • @jazzman_10

    @jazzman_10

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@aratneerg1375 You speak as if there were a cure for the disease or as if they were left to die and that is just not true. There is no cure for this, but the Swedish made the decision to go on, if anyone wanted to be isolated they could have stayed home. Spaniards, on the other hand, decided to go for the lock down and right now they are not doing better than France or England and far worse than Sweden, not to mention the unemployment rate of 30%, the closing down of over 20% of small businesses and the worst is still to come when people will run out of savings and depend on government subsidies.

  • @Carmaykela

    @Carmaykela

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jazzman_10 our eldery were definitely (figuratively speaking) left to die

  • @TB1M1
    @TB1M13 жыл бұрын

    If you don't close or impose quarrantine at the border lockdowns are a complete waste of time and money. Can't the UK learn from South Korea, Taiwan, Wuhan, New Zealand. Uk is an island nation..

  • @georgejohnson1498
    @georgejohnson14983 жыл бұрын

    I am half-Norwegian, and have been to Sweden many times over the last 58 years. You cannot compare the Scandinavian situation and culture with ours in the UK without mentioning the difference in population density, and normal behaviour. People do not crowd each others space, shops are far less crowded. People do not tend to shout or even speak loudly. In Scandinavias as a rule. If you observe the difference between the gov't approaches to Covid in Norway and Sweden you may have a reasonable comparison to make, because the cultures and population density are reasonably similar. Norway has had quite strict restrictions, and Sweden much less so. Norway has had much more success in death rates. ... so far ... But it will be a good year before we know which approach is most successful overall. Nobody can yet see the future, and indeed it is possible that Sweden will have been vindicated, and that we may all learn from the Swedish way, but we are only just into the beginning of the Winter. Who knows how this will go, be it in the UK, Norway, Sweden or indeed any other Northern Hemisphere Country? Another problem is that I doubt the veracity of the reporting from some major countries outside Europe. Sometimes because the journalism is controlled by censorship [and even self-censorship], but also because the testing and diagnosis or even availability of treatment mean that even the known numbers may not reflect the reality in the villages and countryside areas. Just two pennies' worth. George

  • @LasBuenasNuevas2020

    @LasBuenasNuevas2020

    3 жыл бұрын

    They are not counting in Sweden, they stop counting long ago. Sweden is a doble standard country that wants to appared as the best of Europe, but it is not.

  • @biomorphic

    @biomorphic

    3 жыл бұрын

    Even one penny for what I can see...

  • @williamdickerson8898

    @williamdickerson8898

    3 жыл бұрын

    Asia has huge populations in cities. Their numbers are way down on the west.

  • @teokl6150

    @teokl6150

    2 жыл бұрын

    We know now. In WHO's report, Sweden's excess mortality (the fairest criterion when comparing between countries) in 2021 was lower than their neighbours! This is concrete evidence that they've gotten it right. Sweden was relatively spared from covid myopia.

  • @georgejohnson1498

    @georgejohnson1498

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@teokl6150 Thank you for your interesting reply given with the perspective that time brings. I am sure that there is a huge amount of sociological and medical work to be done son as to prepare for a future pandemic, and how best the reduce the damage. I do agree that excess deaths is really the best way to assess these things. If a lock-down regime results in other deaths such as suicide, or death from untreated heart attack or stroke, or even, longer term, from raised rates of Cancer mortality from treatment [and diagnosis] being delayed [or even not happening at all], then really that is still an excess death. Not so much due to Covid, but due to anti-Covid policy. Sometimes the policy may be worse than the disease ... I do thank so much for replying to my post above. Best wishes from George

  • @waterwoman901
    @waterwoman9013 жыл бұрын

    Love their attitude and philosophy, wonderful, hope they stay with this course

  • @ItsGroundhogDay
    @ItsGroundhogDay3 жыл бұрын

    Cases don't matter. If you're taking them seriously, you're doing it wrong. Deaths and hospitalizations.

  • @usadaily135

    @usadaily135

    3 жыл бұрын

    on Sept 23, 2020: 5,837 in Sweden It is at 8,727 by Dec 30, 2020. I guess they were wrong.

  • @ItsGroundhogDay

    @ItsGroundhogDay

    3 жыл бұрын

    In the US, you don't even need a positive test. Most people don't have one. Of course, even if you have one, there are so many false positives that they can't be taken seriously.

  • @mdml0
    @mdml03 жыл бұрын

    Now we know that Sweden was wrong. They took a risk sure but they paid a huge price. Welcome to reality.

  • @usadaily135

    @usadaily135

    3 жыл бұрын

    Natural herd immunity makes u pay a heavy price. And for how long, even if achieved. New strains of the virus will inevitably pop. God help us. Meanwhile social distance until we know more about this virus. Good luck to all.

  • @elizabethryan7772

    @elizabethryan7772

    3 жыл бұрын

    So, they didnt destroy their economy, create huge mental health problems etc.... the fact is they are no worse off than most of the nations that have destroyed livelihoods, mandated masks, house arrests, tore families apart from loved ones, house arrests, taken away democratic rights..... lose billions on crazy schemes etc.....

  • @mdml0

    @mdml0

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@elizabethryan7772 Their little experiment failed. The damage to their economy is coming and will be much worse than the situation if they handled it effectively in the first place. More people will suffer now. Can't escape reality.

  • @mikaeljohansson6518

    @mikaeljohansson6518

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mdml0 And you were wrong 😀

  • @john9409
    @john94093 жыл бұрын

    "You'll struggle to see a face mask here" as someone walks past wearing one! "Found one!"

  • @lawrencebrown3677

    @lawrencebrown3677

    3 жыл бұрын

    That just proved the reporter's point.

  • @MrGygygygy
    @MrGygygygy3 жыл бұрын

    The Vikings do not like the fearfactory ...

  • @jurgensplurgen8972

    @jurgensplurgen8972

    3 жыл бұрын

    People shouldn't be scared of the virus. They should be scared of how selfish their fellow humans can be.

  • @CriticalPixel

    @CriticalPixel

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm sure some sweeds like heavy metal

  • @drd6416

    @drd6416

    3 жыл бұрын

    Vikings laugh on the face of fear! Plus they're cool people. Got their heads screwed on...

  • @But1non
    @But1non Жыл бұрын

    This man should be given an award

  • @MikaelMurstam
    @MikaelMurstam3 жыл бұрын

    I would expect this kind of journalism from the US, but not from the UK.

  • @bink865
    @bink8653 жыл бұрын

    I wonder what the right approach is. Perhaps we'll know more in a year.

  • @Oladavol

    @Oladavol

    3 жыл бұрын

    From a lifestyle and mental health standpoint I believe the answer is obvious.

  • @annoyedaussie3942

    @annoyedaussie3942

    3 жыл бұрын

    Full lockdown containment and elimination is best if a country can achieve it, however for most places and densely populated slums it's impossible to get there now most likely because the populations will just riot.

  • @anno6969
    @anno69693 жыл бұрын

    I love the comment of “ the Swedish people did as they where told with social distancing and hygiene” unlike many of the uk people who just want to go to the pub at all costs!

  • @deidremulroe2461

    @deidremulroe2461

    3 жыл бұрын

    Very True . I watched a programme on people surviving WW1 And WW11 The hardship Then watch modern UK obsessed with loosing drinking time.. and listen to them moaning, how hard done by... It's embarrassing sometimes

  • @deidremulroe2461

    @deidremulroe2461

    3 жыл бұрын

    And I know it's a different world But some people's priorities are wrong..

  • @chiraagshah269
    @chiraagshah2692 жыл бұрын

    Headline is very (mis)leading! The scientist did NOT blame lockdown measures. He was careful to say each country has their own factors to account for.

  • @BushCampingTools
    @BushCampingTools3 жыл бұрын

    The British "Pub culture" won out over sensibilities. By definition these are places of little airflow at the best of times and packed to the max at normal times. Probably not the best place to hang out if there is an air borne contagion present , just like hanging out on a packed train or bus.

  • @Lucky777Ent

    @Lucky777Ent

    3 жыл бұрын

    Facts

  • @panchovilla5359
    @panchovilla53593 жыл бұрын

    The title of this video is wrong, it should be “Sweden doesn’t talk about other countries approach towards the plandemic”

  • @jesmmifs
    @jesmmifs3 жыл бұрын

    Sweden has trusted their epidemiologists while the UK is trusting politicians. The difference? One of those countries is out of the pandemic, the other is facing another lockdown and a surge of economic and psychological devastation.

  • @ShanghaiRooster

    @ShanghaiRooster

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's more like the UK government is still trusting bad science, and may indeed be doubling down on it if the story that the infamous Vallance graph was imposed on him at the will of No. 10. If that is true, then shame on him for agreeing to present something with no scientific justification.

  • @dochedgehog

    @dochedgehog

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ShanghaiRooster its more like people in the uk just ignore it and use sweden as the excuse.

  • @ShanghaiRooster

    @ShanghaiRooster

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dochedgehog There's an element of that, yes, but I don't think it's untrue to say you'll never get on top of an easily communicable virus by burying yourself in the ground whenever it rears its head. The likelihood of dying from covid (as opposed to with it) is very small indeed - the health authorities in Italy and the US have said 99% and 94% respectively did not die of covid. There's a similar figure from Australia. So, whilst it's true that this is not just another flu it does bear comparison with the more lethal strains of flu. Something like 30,000 people died of (or with) flu in early 2018, but we didn't implode the country because of it. The only way is by herd immunity; if the virus can't find anybody to successfully infect after a while it will fade into the background. The flu never goes away (its killed more people than covid for 14 weeks or something), but the impression is given that it only pops up during the winter. What is going on here and elsewhere will come back hard in the shape of collateral deaths, which even our government suggests will far outweigh covid related deaths to date (75,000 as opposed to circa 42,000), and the appalling effect lockdown is having on people's mental health and their basic human interactions.

  • @romi929
    @romi9293 жыл бұрын

    It’s so refreshing to see people with no masks!! This masks have a much bigger psychological implications then most people realize or care to look into it . At least here in US is striking how much wearing a mask changed people’s behavior . Some very noticeable behavior changes in people are in customer service ( groceries stores , department stores ) lack of greeting the customers , lack of eye contact , not even mentioned smiling that would be obvious pointless . It’s almost like people are a lot less present and much more walking around like robots avoiding even looking at each other .... very sad .

  • @davidbolha

    @davidbolha

    3 жыл бұрын

    YT -> Sweden RFID Microchip www.wired.com/2007/09/study-rfid-impl/ www.theregister.com/2007/09/10/rfid_chip_cancer_link/

  • @waiki8223
    @waiki82233 жыл бұрын

    It definitely takes some guts to do what Sweden did. Not many countries’ leaders have them

  • @raduleu293
    @raduleu2933 жыл бұрын

    I'm feel like crying of anger when I look at Sweden and compare it with my own country! Sweden is the only country in Europe who did the right thing, although they were hit hard in the beginning.

  • @NazSBG

    @NazSBG

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hit hard mostly in the care homes and those of a vulnerable nature. But the overall death toll was small based on the overall population. the overall global death count is way, way, way below 1%. this virus all along has been over 90% mild.

  • @jessicali8594

    @jessicali8594

    3 жыл бұрын

    At least one fifth of the population in Sweden is aged over 65, where those with diagnosed health conditions are denied publicly funded medical treatment. Death numbers are lower in Denmark and Norway where fewer deaths were ATTRIBUTED to CoViD'19 that occurred due to preexisting conditions including advanced age.

  • @nancyattoh8998

    @nancyattoh8998

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sweden is not as densely populated as the UK so it’s not a fair comparison. What would be an appropriate comparison is looking at their neighbouring Scandinavian countries. Sweden has had the most deaths. Is that a success?

  • @beno8983

    @beno8983

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nancyattoh8998 and what about Japan with a far higher population density?

  • @jessicali8594

    @jessicali8594

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nancyattoh8998 : Yes, a success as explained above your comment. Moreover Sweden didn't shut down. So definitely a success. Not that Sweden could've shut down. It has no control in its immigrant communities, who ignore Swedish authorities altogether.

  • @pauld.b7129
    @pauld.b71293 жыл бұрын

    Well locking down was SUPPOSED to be very short term. And they just kept extending it. The entire pandemic started with one case, common sense says that it will spread again, so long as there is at least one infected person. May as well get it over with. This whole pandemic has been overblown. More than a 98% survival rate, even for those who get imfectd..

  • @kyjo72682

    @kyjo72682

    3 жыл бұрын

    2% death rate is a huge impact. Larger than most wars. And besides death there seem to be some long term problems even for people who were symptom free or had only weak symptoms. This is not just respiratory virus. It attacks multiple organs throughout the body, including heart, kidney, and brain. There are neurological problems popping up after some covid infections.. with possible triggers for Parkinson's, etc. Don't underestimate the danger. Clearly the best strategy is to enact measures with the best efficiency/cost ratio (distancing, face masks in close-quarters conditions) while we wait for a vaccine, or a drug which can help people deal with the disease.

  • @philup4947

    @philup4947

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kyjo72682 People have to die we have to get over this notion that every life is worth saving no mather the wider cost

  • @alicianelson1252

    @alicianelson1252

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agreed I don't think we should have shut down at all

  • @kyjo72682

    @kyjo72682

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@philup4947 ​ This is not a dilemma between saving lives and saving the economy. People will die no matter what. There will be economic impacts no matter what. The problem is that if we let this thing run its course, both aspects will be much worse: more death and worse economic impact. It might seem that sacrificing the 1-2% of population will save the economy but it won't. The situation would get even worse. What you would see is the situation from NY in late April repeating all over the place. Overflowing collapsing hospitals. People would start to self-quarantine even without mandatory lock-downs. The 1918 epidemic shows that US cities which enacted better countermeasures like social distancing have faster economic recovery afterwards. It's also not just about the deaths, the long term covid-related complications will also cause economic problems later. Several years following the Spanish flu there was an "unexplained" wave of neurological problems. There are already indications that COVID can cause neurological and cardiological problems and damage lungs even after mild infections. So what happens if we let this thing run through and 80% people get infected with this virus, and large portion of them will get neurological problems from brain inflammations? What if we see a wave of Parkinson's and similar 4-5 years down the road? That would have a huge economic impact..

  • @philup4947

    @philup4947

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Mohammad Rahman Can you try using English have no idea what you mean

  • @davidfearis7335
    @davidfearis73353 жыл бұрын

    Comes as something else when a Swedish scientist gets it right compared to the UK government

  • @Lisa-sk2ge
    @Lisa-sk2ge3 жыл бұрын

    She understood the difference of Living and surviving... Thank you for the comment :)

  • @RaeBell01
    @RaeBell013 жыл бұрын

    Why not report on how well Taiwan handled the virus and they kept the numbers down.

  • @kxngdee266

    @kxngdee266

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly! I was watching a short documentary on how they’ve overcome it, I don’t know why the media won’t broadcast that

  • @commonsense9176

    @commonsense9176

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or south Korea

  • @gerhardherediaazcarate3160

    @gerhardherediaazcarate3160

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or New Zealand.

  • @pom3222

    @pom3222

    3 жыл бұрын

    Because dare I say it, the Western media still look down on the Eastern countries. Everyone sees it, but no one says it.

  • @andybliss5965

    @andybliss5965

    3 жыл бұрын

    Everyone is still wearing masks in those countries. Additionally a study showed 50% of people in Tokyo had some exposure meaning they had greater immunity than Westerners. Though I will admit what worked in Sweden may not work in the UK France or Spain

  • @jannestrang
    @jannestrang3 жыл бұрын

    Lots to learn from Sweden.

  • @feynman6625

    @feynman6625

    3 жыл бұрын

    Jan Strang. Yes , mainly the fact that arrogance causes deaths . Our benign northern overlords diyng by the dozens while lesser peoples are doing better.

  • @tohokugirl8144
    @tohokugirl81443 жыл бұрын

    The reality is, when you have a contagious disease, no matter what you do, some people will die. Things in nature happen that we cannot totally control.

  • @barretthendrix8751
    @barretthendrix87513 жыл бұрын

    I was worried for Sweden at first, but their thoery proved correct. We need to protect the vulnerable but healthy keep the country ticking over. 😍😁