Why Sweden Gambled $4BN on a Super-Deep Tunnel

Stockholm is in a race to fix it's traffic congestion. But will this really work?
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  • @TheB1M
    @TheB1M24 күн бұрын

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  • @_Mackan

    @_Mackan

    24 күн бұрын

    no lol

  • @e2U

    @e2U

    21 күн бұрын

    Reality roll by design...haha

  • @zenvoidd
    @zenvoidd24 күн бұрын

    "More lanes have been added but it's not enough" yeah bro just one more lane bro we'll fix it bro one more lane

  • @fdssd1736

    @fdssd1736

    24 күн бұрын

    Volvo has bought most swedish politicians

  • @filip9564

    @filip9564

    24 күн бұрын

    They changed from 2 lanes to 3 Not some crazy texas thing were they ha e like 8

  • @filip9564

    @filip9564

    24 күн бұрын

    @@fdssd1736volvo is owned by china and no they have not

  • @maddog2314

    @maddog2314

    24 күн бұрын

    Yep, all I could think about was induced demand.

  • @SomeKidFromBritain

    @SomeKidFromBritain

    24 күн бұрын

    You get to a safe and functional number of lanes then you stop. Usually this is 2-3

  • @zeytelaloi
    @zeytelaloi24 күн бұрын

    The problem isn't congestion in Stockholm per-se among its inhabitants; introducing more public transport would help with that. The problem is that Stockholm, as is mentioned, is built on a number of islands, between the Mälaren lake and the Baltic Sea, the former of which serves as ~150 km wide barrier. As a result, Stockholm serves as the only land bridge along the east coast. In addition to the inhabitants of Stockholm, there is a lot of traffic that needs to go from other parts of Sweden north and south of Stockholm. Because there are massive waterways they need to pass through the city, and there are currently essentially only two proper highways. One goes through the very center of the city - past the historical old town - and the other, Essingeleden, passes slightly to the west of it. (There are two smaller bridges but those are really just intended for city busses, vans, few passenger cars, bicyclists, etc - not long-haul trucks carrying containers) We've had incidents in the past where a long-haul truck crashed and blocked several lanes of traffic on the Essingeleden and it was catastrophic for not just the city's inhabitants but all other logistics passing through the city. The Stockholm bypass is meant to offer one additional route bypassing the center completely. While some Stockholmers might use it to cut their driving commute travels, and it will off-load the highways in the center, in practice the really big beneficiaries will be long-haul truck drivers.

  • @fernbedek6302

    @fernbedek6302

    24 күн бұрын

    If you get fewer people in Stockholm on the existing roads with public transit that would open up more road capacity for long distance transport. Or, if you really need to bypass the city entirely (say, when transporting hazardous goods or something) then rail is better for long distance cargo and build a rail tunnel.

  • @Croz89

    @Croz89

    24 күн бұрын

    I think this is something a lot of commenters are missing, too many people have this knee-jerk anti-car response whenever there is any new road construction. It's same idea for the road tunnel in Antwerp, route lorries around the city (in that case to get to the docks). Even if it doesn't help with congestion that much, fewer lorries in urban areas that don't need to be there is always a good thing for both air quality and safety.

  • @Croz89

    @Croz89

    24 күн бұрын

    @@fernbedek6302 Sweden is fairly sparsely populated outside of a few major cities, the rail network isn't extensive enough and mills and factories are too spread out to make a large amount of rail freight economic.

  • @fernbedek6302

    @fernbedek6302

    24 күн бұрын

    @@Croz89 I'm Canadian. We're even more sparsely populated. We're still able to make rail the main way we move freight. If anything, low densities are good for freight rail because there's less stopping and starting and more benefit from saving on driver-hours over the long distances you're having to transport things.

  • @Croz89

    @Croz89

    24 күн бұрын

    @@fernbedek6302 Canada has the US freight rail network to connect to, plus it has ports on both coasts and a lot of low value bulk goods to move. Sweden's railway doesn't really connect much to much outside Sweden, only Copenhagen via the Oresund and a couple of connections to Norway (Finland is a break of gauge). Sweden's rail network isn't much less extensive really, it's just more passenger focused. Unless you're dealing with containers off ships, higher value lower volume goods are generally going to be moved by road, it just doesn't make sense to build a railway spur to every factory, mill or refinery, or even a loading station in the local area.

  • @Josephoz99
    @Josephoz9924 күн бұрын

    FYI this is not only about congestion. The focus is to mainly shift away throughrunning traffic from the city center and also to reduce vulnerability of the road system in Stockholm.

  • @dataandcolours6284

    @dataandcolours6284

    3 күн бұрын

    Exactly and what is why this is such a bad solution. This ring will both be extremely expensive but not actually solve the problem as the ring is simply to close to Stockholm. There is typically often congestion all the way from Södertälje in south on the E4 and also congestion north of Sollentuna. This ring road will not fix that at all. It amazes me that the politician doesn't realize that a huge part of the problem is through-traffic that have no destination or departure anywhere close to Stockholm. Significantly updating road 55 had made so much more sense and be a more economically sound investment.

  • @Idkwhothisiss8

    @Idkwhothisiss8

    20 сағат бұрын

    @@dataandcolours6284Fast är det verkligen så mycket trafik redan från Södertälje? Det brukar börja i höjd med Botkyrka (såvida inte något trafikhinder uppstår) om man ska norr ut, så på så vis är den ju rätt så bra planerad

  • @Crabman_87
    @Crabman_8724 күн бұрын

    Who the hell provided that b-roll at 6:15 ?!? 💀

  • @daricora

    @daricora

    24 күн бұрын

    "Fill up your car like someone that has never pumped gas before"

  • @kinfongyeung5400

    @kinfongyeung5400

    24 күн бұрын

    @@daricora must be someone from new jersey

  • @tsint

    @tsint

    24 күн бұрын

    Gas is nowadays so cheap in Sweden so we can afford this ;)

  • @curtis545454

    @curtis545454

    24 күн бұрын

    I don't even need to check, I know exactly what happens then

  • @hughmcaloon6506

    @hughmcaloon6506

    24 күн бұрын

    Derek Zoolander!

  • @plaveccz3180
    @plaveccz318024 күн бұрын

    Damn, I didnt expect to see this here. I spent 5 years working on this project on one of the sections. We had about 4 kilometers of main tunnels + all small connection tunnels and ramps, which added up to about 20 kilometers of tunnel. It was very interesting work.

  • @RevitExperiments

    @RevitExperiments

    2 күн бұрын

    I worked on it in 2020 for 6 months. Quite interesting, but things were still moving slowly Honestly I have some doubts it's gonna be finished by 2030, but let's see.

  • @katherinebrubaker7788
    @katherinebrubaker778824 күн бұрын

    2:44 Fred: This enormous project isn't built in a day Me: *he's going to talk about the sponsor*

  • @leonkernan
    @leonkernan24 күн бұрын

    6:14 Someone teach that guy how to use a petrol pump!!!

  • @ebx100

    @ebx100

    24 күн бұрын

    The petrol pumps are green in the Philippines as well. Practically shit in my pants every time I fill up my motorbike!

  • @ebx100

    @ebx100

    24 күн бұрын

    And I don't try to spill half of my weekly 4 liters all over the pavement, either!

  • @jonevansauthor

    @jonevansauthor

    24 күн бұрын

    Yes, he should be imprisoned for our safety. Sheesh.

  • @Timeyy

    @Timeyy

    24 күн бұрын

    Bro spilled like 5€ worth of gas for no reason lmao

  • @dancostello6465

    @dancostello6465

    24 күн бұрын

    He dunno he a Swedish #borg #borg #borg

  • @philipbengtsson2186
    @philipbengtsson218624 күн бұрын

    The IKEA highway, connecting the two stores north and south of the city.

  • @ebx100

    @ebx100

    24 күн бұрын

    Damn, I'm suddenly craving meatballs.

  • @Sevenfold120

    @Sevenfold120

    24 күн бұрын

    I bet that was taken in consideration when they started this.

  • @elldmdnz

    @elldmdnz

    24 күн бұрын

    shut up

  • @jonevansauthor

    @jonevansauthor

    24 күн бұрын

    Everyone knows what you really need for Ikea is a highway through the shop itself so you can go straight to the thing you need to see and not all the way around it. :D

  • @lars-akechesburg9911

    @lars-akechesburg9911

    24 күн бұрын

    Funny thing is that the bypass startpoint is next to the biggest IKEA in the world

  • @reddimus11
    @reddimus1124 күн бұрын

    It would be cool for you to look back at some of your older episodes and check back on the status of those construction projects today!

  • @axelliljencrantz4462
    @axelliljencrantz446224 күн бұрын

    All the stock footage was actually of Stockholm, the description of the project as well as the history of traffic in Stockholm was accurate. Impressive!

  • @GackFinder

    @GackFinder

    8 күн бұрын

    That's true, even the stock footage at 6:14 is from Sweden, I know because I'm the guy in the video.

  • @eliaslundstedt5607

    @eliaslundstedt5607

    7 күн бұрын

    @@GackFinder Lär dig tanka för i helvete

  • @tobias_dahlberg
    @tobias_dahlberg24 күн бұрын

    Seeing a lot of weird takes from people who presumably do not understand the situation. A bypass is needed. The E4 is one of if not the most trafficked highway in Sweden, running along the entire country and going through Stockholm. There are countless journeys being taken going north or south and they all have to pass THROUGH the capital on the current E4. A bypass can divert all those cars and semi-trucks so that the traffic that you see in the city is basically only city traffic, no one just passing through. If you're going from Sundsvall to Jönköping, why would you need to drive through the capital and add to the traffic there?. It's like if every journey going along the east coast of the United States HAD to go through Washington D.C

  • @dataandcolours6284

    @dataandcolours6284

    3 күн бұрын

    @tobias_dahlberg Exactly. It would have made so much more sense to simply spend all this insane amount of money on updating road 55 Norrköping-Katrineholm-Strängnäs-Enköping-Uppsala. It's such a no brainer for people NOT living in or close to Stockholm. The insane amount traffic that is forced do drive through or close to Stockholm unnecessary seems to have been completely forgotten. And it's not like this rather short ring road will fix that. A lot of the congestion starts close to Nyköping even in the south-east and there are often congestion significantly further north than Sollentuna. This project will not fix that at all, but probably even increase it even more as fewer will consider road 55 when this project is completed as now at least they will not drive more or less into Stockholm.

  • @yannisstath
    @yannisstath24 күн бұрын

    buckle up everyone. B1M is here

  • @johan8008
    @johan800824 күн бұрын

    Passing by my hometown.. We been waiting long rime for this tunnel..

  • @addvurtbikes
    @addvurtbikes24 күн бұрын

    The tunnel goes from where I live to where my grandmother lives. She's 85. It won't be completed before we both pass away from old age. I'm 34.

  • @jake9764

    @jake9764

    24 күн бұрын

    I do love me generational infrastructure projects, however I’m not sure why this is for vehicles only and not trains.

  • @richardconway6425

    @richardconway6425

    23 күн бұрын

    cut down on your smoking. At least you'll be healthy, even if the tunnel isn't done.

  • @squidlet6125

    @squidlet6125

    2 күн бұрын

    @@jake9764 probably too sharp elevation changes. Trains need to have very gradual elevation changes to operate (except for like Swiss alpine trains). Therefor trains would probably need their own separate project.

  • @thomash5342
    @thomash534224 күн бұрын

    Besides this project they are also building out the metro network a lot. What I still don’t understand is with so much tunneling being done that the whole klarastrandsleden to centralbron is not being tunneled. Mind boggling how a major road like that can just pass through the middle of the city.

  • @pcongre

    @pcongre

    23 күн бұрын

    hopefully it will be closed to private motor traffic instead

  • @magnushultgrenhtc

    @magnushultgrenhtc

    22 күн бұрын

    Mind boggling not just passing right through the city centre, but doing it on some of the most phenomenal plots of land available.

  • @counterfit5

    @counterfit5

    22 күн бұрын

    ​@@magnushultgrenhtc*United States intensifies*

  • @magnushultgrenhtc

    @magnushultgrenhtc

    22 күн бұрын

    @@counterfit5 like/dislike

  • @kriselt

    @kriselt

    21 күн бұрын

    Damn, imagine having a Walmart supercenter there! But at least we got a highway❤

  • @isaks7042
    @isaks704224 күн бұрын

    To everyone who are against this project saying this is "just another lane". You are wrong. This isnt Houston where they increase to infinite lanes. This project is to divert the traffic from the city center. There is no reason for a highway to cut right through city centers like in stupid american cities. European cities have less traffic because our highways tend to be build around our cities, not straight through. This is exactly what this project is about.

  • @UnbeltedSundew

    @UnbeltedSundew

    24 күн бұрын

    You know that almost every major American city has an interstate ring road to by pass it, right?

  • @isaks7042

    @isaks7042

    24 күн бұрын

    @@UnbeltedSundew I checked the map and yeah you are right. However, there are also often hundreds of meters wide roads in the middle of the cities aswell. For example, Road 70 runs right through Columbus and Indianapolis, Kansas City, city centers.

  • @elldmdnz

    @elldmdnz

    24 күн бұрын

    this ones underground so that works. underground highways better than lots of lanes above ground.

  • @MrGunnar69

    @MrGunnar69

    24 күн бұрын

    @@isaks7042 Like the E4 that goes straight through Stockholm, is Stockholm an American city?

  • @victorcapel2755

    @victorcapel2755

    24 күн бұрын

    @@MrGunnar69 The E4 was built in the 60s, inspired by the US model. That's exactly what the city is now trying to rectify. Everyone agrees that it was a stupid idea, but they thought otherwise back then.

  • @lipen99
    @lipen998 күн бұрын

    We have a tunnel going through Hallandsåsen that cost around 11,9BN to build

  • @rulta

    @rulta

    6 күн бұрын

    That's in kronor not dollars

  • @EyesOfByes
    @EyesOfByes24 күн бұрын

    So, when are you gonna cover the rail tunnel project Västlänken in Gothenburg? It would be a really good case study on contruction project controversy.

  • @martyminus90

    @martyminus90

    24 күн бұрын

    I also want to watch that. Love from Norway

  • @henrybn14ar

    @henrybn14ar

    9 күн бұрын

    A worthless project driven by clueless politicians. Gravy train for consultants and contractors, just like the British HS2.

  • @PWDino
    @PWDino23 күн бұрын

    I have been waiting a long time for this video! As it's such a big project i Thought it would pop up here sooner or later. And i'm not disappointed by it either! Would be cool if you made a video about the extension of the subway system in stockholm as well as they are building the deepest subway station in the world as well as having had some big chalanges of a very different kind to what you normaly hear about!

  • @ichVII
    @ichVII24 күн бұрын

    I like that at 0:45, when he says "officials are looking for another solution", the trains are right in sight. The video just derailed a bit after that.

  • @PrayerOrb4

    @PrayerOrb4

    24 күн бұрын

    I get what you are saying, but the purpose of this tunnel is to lead traffic away that would have otherwise passed through the city. Through Stockholm passes one of the main highways in Sweden, and this tunnel would provide an alternative for people passing through

  • @Sevenfold120

    @Sevenfold120

    24 күн бұрын

    @@PrayerOrb4 Would of been nice to get a rail line from Skärholmen to Northern stockholm. Would cut down on transit going through stockholm.

  • @filip9564

    @filip9564

    24 күн бұрын

    You sir are absolutely braindead

  • @WaffleAbuser

    @WaffleAbuser

    24 күн бұрын

    @@PrayerOrb4Sure, it will divert some of the traffic, but isn’t the current highway just gonna fill up the freed capacity right away?

  • @ideadlift20kg83

    @ideadlift20kg83

    23 күн бұрын

    @@WaffleAbuser Long term plan is to remove that inner city highway.

  • @CharlieBarbarossa
    @CharlieBarbarossa23 күн бұрын

    The title update is so on-point!

  • @acadr12
    @acadr1223 күн бұрын

    I worked on this scheme over 10 years ago as a strutural engineer through GGJV (Grontmij / Golders) and it was fun... one thing about the Swedes that i remember was regular meetings to plan the next series of meetings, all within a multi-disciplinary design envirnment... lol

  • @Fender-bender

    @Fender-bender

    11 күн бұрын

    I heard that a few of those who plan the meetings actually like them!

  • @jonathanblomberg
    @jonathanblomberg3 күн бұрын

    Been down in that tunnel a few times over the past years while they been working on it an it always amazes me how deep it is

  • @thorelind
    @thorelind24 күн бұрын

    It's probably time to check out the infrastructure projects in gothenburg! That video about gothenburg a while back didn't really cover them

  • @ThisisDevaan
    @ThisisDevaan24 күн бұрын

    A lot of people are saying that Stockholm doesn’t have enough public transport, but the problem is that the highway network aren’t designed as thruways, but as a commuter option.

  • @Monothefox
    @Monothefox24 күн бұрын

    And if you ask people who study traffic patterns, the bypass will barely have any effect, since there is almost no through traffic; nearly all vehicles are going to or from Stockholm itself. Meanwhile, the Citybana, which *doubled* rail capacity in the city, got less than half the budget of the bypass...

  • @AL-lh2ht

    @AL-lh2ht

    24 күн бұрын

    Honestly it seems more like a way to help the values so highway system.

  • @empebee

    @empebee

    23 күн бұрын

    Precisely. One government agency concluded that about 204 cars per day would see clear benefits from the project. Since this was a prestige project from powerful politicians, the agency was made redundant soon after. Stockholm clearly needs a bypass highway, but since they tried to placate every single citizen with a complaint, the highway was pushed farther and farther out (making it less and less useful) and more and more sections were put under ground (ballooning the cost). For the same cost, they could have built a four lane highway from Stockholm to the Finish border.

  • @zilfondel

    @zilfondel

    23 күн бұрын

    Hopefully this will reduce public transit ridership and help convert sweden to a more US-highway centric transportation and urban development model. There are millions of acres in sweden that could support tract housing and big box retail development.

  • @Tera83074

    @Tera83074

    23 күн бұрын

    ⁠@@zilfondellol good one. Made me chuckle. But seriously there’s no way we will go for the US model, that be horrible.

  • @mat39

    @mat39

    17 күн бұрын

    Käft sosse

  • @_loss_
    @_loss_8 күн бұрын

    I remember passing the entrance in hägggvik plenty of times as a kid. I forgot about it completely.

  • @walther2492
    @walther249224 күн бұрын

    "Just one more lane...!"

  • @tbird81

    @tbird81

    23 күн бұрын

    Just 43% more people.

  • @Pottan23

    @Pottan23

    7 күн бұрын

    London has the M25 Berlin has the A10 Paris has the Périph Copenhagen has the O4 Stockholm got nothing. Skärholmen - Häggvik is a 25min (28.8km) drive through Stockholm. Avoiding Stockholm turns it into 1 hour 54 minutes trip (165 km). A ringway or bypass has been a wet dream for any driver north or south of stockholm for decades.

  • @linusfotograf
    @linusfotograf24 күн бұрын

    Have you done videos on Slussen or the new Tunnelbanestations? Would be fun to see

  • @JoelMatton
    @JoelMatton24 күн бұрын

    There was a Reddit thread on Swedish Reddit a while back asking people from Stockholm who drive why they don't use public transportation, and they all basically said the same thing: Taking public transportation takes too long, in part because you often need to switch between different trains and busses several times to get to and from work, and every switch can have you waiting at a bus stop/train station for up to 20 minutes. Many said that a 20 minute drive can take an hour on public transportation.

  • @vectoor91

    @vectoor91

    24 күн бұрын

    Stockholm has a very high use of public transit, like twice as many trips are done by public transit than by driving each day. And Stockholm is in the middle of expanding its metro system building 11 new stations.

  • @danmcclaren5436

    @danmcclaren5436

    24 күн бұрын

    sounds like they need to remain sesual wit it

  • @elldmdnz

    @elldmdnz

    24 күн бұрын

    Do some research first bud

  • @alyssapowell1799

    @alyssapowell1799

    24 күн бұрын

    It's even worse if you live outside a large city like Stockholm and aren't going into the city center. Businesses are all over the Stockholm area and it's difficult for there to be enough routes to cover everywhere that people need to go. If you're going to Stockholm to do something on the weekend like a concert or sporting event, it can work really well to take public transportation. For daily commutes to work, it doesn't unless you specific get a new apartment along public transportation routes every time you change jobs. It's not that there aren't people who use public transportation, but it's not practical for some Swedes to use public transportation for their daily commutes.

  • @_loss_

    @_loss_

    8 күн бұрын

    Trains aren't that far apart unless you're traveling near midnight. Also the best mode for transport in Stockholm around that time is by those rentable scooters. There are no cars on the street and the city is small.

  • @GazMoby
    @GazMoby23 күн бұрын

    Very enjoyable as always 👍

  • @57thorns
    @57thorns8 күн бұрын

    There is another bypass route as well, much longer but also cheaper and has local benefits along the way. Road 50 from Mjölby to Motala has been upgrade a lot in recent year, allowing a connection from E4 to E20/E18 to Enköping. From there Road 50 again from Enköping to Uppsala and we have a serious contender for bypassing the Stockholm choke point. It does bypass Sörmland and most of östergötland as well, so it is not for all traffic, but it should help solve some of the problems.

  • @maxjakobsson8491
    @maxjakobsson849123 күн бұрын

    Good video, maybe revisit this project again in the future if possible

  • @49cchris
    @49cchris21 күн бұрын

    Was Amzing to hear about the BM1 on the radio 5! Construction in the future will be 4D printed and A.I. will build our city's in mega factories and then transport them to the sites!

  • @fwafsacv
    @fwafsacv24 күн бұрын

    Have they made a video about Västlänken in Gothenburg, Sweden?

  • @maroon9273
    @maroon927311 күн бұрын

    Eastern part of sweden lacks a bypass as well. Extra lanes need to use as busway lane and rail lines.

  • @ItMeCorban
    @ItMeCorban24 күн бұрын

    "More lanes have been added but it's not enough" Hmm it's almost like that's not how that works

  • @duncanmcauley7932

    @duncanmcauley7932

    19 күн бұрын

    It’s fairly simple. You can absolutely build wide enough anywhere to tackle congestion. Demand is not infinite. The problem is how destructive and expensive it would be. Much smarter to build dense public transit in the middle of the city. But building outside the city where demand is lower but still justified, particularly for long haulers, is an impressive move on Sweden’s part. It’ll be up to them how land use nearby is managed to avoid significant sprawl.

  • @einar8019

    @einar8019

    8 сағат бұрын

    adding lanes on the essingeleden would just be dumb, its much smarter to finnish the ringroad and the bypass

  • @NickyMitchell85
    @NickyMitchell8524 күн бұрын

    The *Boston Big Dig* of SWEDEN 🇸🇪.

  • @mithrillis

    @mithrillis

    24 күн бұрын

    The Big Wet Dig

  • @kaitlyn__L

    @kaitlyn__L

    24 күн бұрын

    Let’s just hope it doesn’t suck funding away from metro rail like it did in Boston…

  • @pcongre

    @pcongre

    23 күн бұрын

    @@kaitlyn__L it already has, i'm afraid :_)

  • @MICHALMALACHOVSKY
    @MICHALMALACHOVSKY24 күн бұрын

    Stunning shot 🏆 🏆 🏆

  • @andredias95
    @andredias95Күн бұрын

    You should take a look at Västlänken while you are doing some digging, the huge tunnel building in Gothenburg.

  • @u1zha
    @u1zha23 күн бұрын

    My big pet peeve with this project is that they made the Lovö island exit so complex and in such a silly location, traffic channeling to smack dab middle of a nature reserve. What they should've done is swing the tunnel curves around a bit and build a junction before (underneath Kungshatt, for traffic towards Ekerö) and a junction after (around Nockeby).

  • @chrisfox6445
    @chrisfox644524 күн бұрын

    I wonder if, in the spirit of encouraging inner city mass transit, the Essingeleden could be narrowed in the future. That's a lot of land that could be repurposed to building, other forms of transport etc. I don't know what you could do with the bridges.

  • @addvurtbikes

    @addvurtbikes

    24 күн бұрын

    I think there is a long term plan to phase it out and turn it into a Highline Park situation.

  • @PastramiStaven
    @PastramiStaven7 күн бұрын

    "cold winters" You should see our "summers"... :D

  • @pcplayerclarkey3026
    @pcplayerclarkey302623 күн бұрын

    This is what Toronto needs for the gardeniar; an express bypass while there is still room for the option

  • @NawDawgTheRazor

    @NawDawgTheRazor

    23 күн бұрын

    I hate that thing so much.

  • @george_davituri
    @george_davituri14 күн бұрын

    God damn, it's pleasure to observe such a mega project

  • @nicolaifr4905
    @nicolaifr490523 күн бұрын

    Are you guys going to do a video on the Rogfast tunnel, would be interesting to see the logistics of digging sutch a deep tunnel

  • @TheWertpoly
    @TheWertpoly19 күн бұрын

    Hey man, love the videos, please do more videos of projects that you think are bad. would love to have your negative take on some projects

  • @lossless4129
    @lossless412924 күн бұрын

    That outro song song smacked

  • @ErikTheAndroid
    @ErikTheAndroid8 күн бұрын

    I live in Stockholm and I can tell you that this new bypass is sorely needed. Currently the E4 which is a major highway which runs north-south through the entire country, goes right through the city center. A major highway running through a city center is just absurd.

  • @usefulcommunication4516

    @usefulcommunication4516

    5 күн бұрын

    Except it doesn't run through the city centre

  • @einar8019

    @einar8019

    8 сағат бұрын

    @@usefulcommunication4516 thats just semantics, you can see the almost entire city hall from the highway

  • @usefulcommunication4516

    @usefulcommunication4516

    8 сағат бұрын

    @@einar8019 If you honestly think the route that the E4 (actually E20) takes around Stockholm constitutes the centre, then I'm guessing you must work for Ryanair and are the person who called Skavsta airfield, 'Stockholm Airport'

  • @misterfunnybones
    @misterfunnybones24 күн бұрын

    Accidents will be a nightmare.

  • @bmwknappen
    @bmwknappen19 күн бұрын

    Nice film! I have also worked on the project! Buildning electrical infrastructure, several years ago!

  • @Dannnneh
    @Dannnneh24 күн бұрын

    I live right next to this, I used to hear the regular explosion signals.

  • @castorchua

    @castorchua

    23 күн бұрын

    I wonder why they're not using those new boring machines

  • @tomatoe308

    @tomatoe308

    8 күн бұрын

    we make boom we use boom

  • @brigadgeneralvoid2508

    @brigadgeneralvoid2508

    7 күн бұрын

    @@castorchua Rock is too hard and there's a lot of water

  • @SigfridSWE
    @SigfridSWE7 күн бұрын

    Its gonna be so awesome when its done! M Gonna do great things for my city!

  • @leosvanemar9712
    @leosvanemar97126 күн бұрын

    Actually around 30 000 islands in Stockholm :)

  • @YggdrasilMarcus
    @YggdrasilMarcus24 күн бұрын

    What's the name of the song at the end of the video, please?

  • @luisalizondo4973
    @luisalizondo497314 күн бұрын

    Talk about the Lucky Sorter!

  • @davidz2690
    @davidz269015 сағат бұрын

    This would easily cost £150bn in the UK

  • @Brakvash
    @Brakvash5 күн бұрын

    To be fair the 4B budget doesn't bother me at all - here in Lund it took 1B just to build a street car line stretching a few kilometers. 4B for a massive tunnel network? These guys are alot better at their job.

  • @soviut303
    @soviut30320 сағат бұрын

    Just one more lane, bro. At least they'll be able to put a train in the tunnel at some point.

  • @kajman911
    @kajman91120 күн бұрын

    The BM1 is starting by asking if it is a pointless project. Then ending by welcoming it!?

  • @patrik5123
    @patrik512323 күн бұрын

    You should do a video on Västlänken. You could probably do a series to be honest.

  • @inorbitaowertrack8454
    @inorbitaowertrack845421 күн бұрын

    Nice to live in a Town 200 miles vest of Stockholm, Örebro if you wonder.

  • @fjord_medoff_08
    @fjord_medoff_0824 күн бұрын

    Dear Fred, Stockholm's underground construction is booming, it's going to expand for 20% for the upcoming years, can you please cover that topic as well? Love everything you do, can't wait for another video

  • @suprjudy
    @suprjudy3 күн бұрын

    Pretty incredible that we haven't advanced to this before now, we had subways so early it's surprising that we didn't level up and just create all of our highways underground considering the vast space and structure we can provide with modern engineering.

  • @Gfynbcyiokbg8710

    @Gfynbcyiokbg8710

    2 күн бұрын

    It's not

  • @krisstopher8259
    @krisstopher825924 күн бұрын

    That's only one part of the new underground freeway network, like the last 1/3 of it. Even our new central train terminal is deep underground and it's HUGE!

  • @shiguCS
    @shiguCS10 күн бұрын

    Speaking of Sweden, when will you be covering Västlänken and Karlatornet?

  • @BlackEydPanda
    @BlackEydPanda9 күн бұрын

    I live in stockholm, Ive never seen strained traffic in the city centre.

  • @JH-lo9ut

    @JH-lo9ut

    7 күн бұрын

    What do you mean by "strained"? If you commute by car, you will experience congestion on every major road leading in to the city in the mornings, and out in the afternoon. If you look up a route on Google Maps, most of the inner city is marked with red, =way more traffic than usual, for most of the time during rush hours. Essingeleden, the current bypass, is severely congested during rush hours. A drive through the city that takes fifteen minutes on a sunday morning will take one and a half hour on a weekday afternoon.

  • @u1zha
    @u1zha23 күн бұрын

    This will also connect with a similarly scaled south side bypass (Tvärförbindelse Södertörn), spaghetti junction go brrrr!

  • @edsonmoses4043
    @edsonmoses40432 күн бұрын

    the correct side of the road!

  • @dataandcolours6284
    @dataandcolours62843 күн бұрын

    A huge part of the traffic is traffic that is just going through Stockholm due to lack of any good alternative for longer transportation! It's not just caused by traffic that has somewhere close to Stockholm as destination. E4 is by far the most important road in Sweden and what is needed is a very, very wide ring road alternative that completely avoids having passing traffic getting anywhere near Stockholm. This rather intermediate ring will not really fix that much of the problem. It can absolutely been argued that it would have made much more sense to update road 55 Norrköping-Katrineholm-Strängnäs-Enköping-Uppsala to a high capacity highway that they also change paths at some places like a relatively cheap updated road that avoids going into Flen. Because even when this extremely expensive project is completed the video is talking about, it will not stop a lot of traffic that has no business driving close to Stockholm to still congest parts close to Stockholm. A lot of the congestion is on the E4 itself for instance between Nyköping and Stockholm (especially Södertälje-Stockholm that is both E4 and E20 combined). This problem will not be fixed at all by this project as this bypass simply isn't far enough from the city. There is a trend in Sweden of politicians and decision makers having a far to strong "Stockholm perspective" on things and this project seems to be yet another example of that. Them seem completely negligent of the fact that a huge part of the traffic on the E4 close to Stockholm actually have no interest in visiting Stockholm at all, but are just interested in getting from one side of Mälaren to the other in an efficient way... Updating road 55 would have made so much more sense and be a much better investment per krona spent. "Förbifart Stockholm" (the project discussed in this video) will be very expensive and only solve a small part of the actual problem.

  • @Gfynbcyiokbg8710

    @Gfynbcyiokbg8710

    2 күн бұрын

    It really wouldn't have been. Road 55 is 10 times longer and goes through the middle of several small towns that would have to be partially or completely demolished to make way for the upgraded road. It would not be significantly cheaper nor would it provide much more benefit than Förbifart Stockholm.

  • @vxcmdr
    @vxcmdr23 күн бұрын

    All these people talking crap about highway, they are essential.

  • @eliasbjornfot6371
    @eliasbjornfot637120 күн бұрын

    You should do a video about the west link (västlänken) in Gothenburg

  • @henrybn14ar
    @henrybn14ar9 күн бұрын

    Please do a piece on the Västlänken fiasco in Gothenburg.

  • @michaelcolllett9082
    @michaelcolllett908223 күн бұрын

    Amazing project ,as like massive engineers projects

  • @anarfox
    @anarfox23 күн бұрын

    Side note, when Sweden had left-hand traffic, we still had left-hand driven cars. Which made for exiting overtaking.

  • @ericpaul4575
    @ericpaul457524 күн бұрын

    I wonder why they decided to use traditional blasting rather than a TBM? Was it just the need to pre grout the route to seal out water?

  • @konskift

    @konskift

    24 күн бұрын

    It's solid rock-shield. TBM is for clay/soil/mud/loose rock.

  • @billhayward1585
    @billhayward158524 күн бұрын

    8 minute video and 2 ads. You are getting too greedy.

  • @UnrealBenji

    @UnrealBenji

    22 күн бұрын

    Exactly what I was thinking.

  • @misterjt961

    @misterjt961

    21 күн бұрын

    KZread is. They put in ads even if the video author doesn’t

  • @jascollinscork
    @jascollinscork23 күн бұрын

    Unbelievable size of a job!!, going far enough outside the city too 🤔 a fair few link roads back into city will be added??

  • @ethanorians
    @ethanorians24 күн бұрын

    I have pondered many times how beneficial it would be to have underground highways in landscapes with extreme winters.

  • @Car_Mo

    @Car_Mo

    24 күн бұрын

    Coming from Sweden and driving through Norway to Bergen, we passed through 60 tunnels, the longest being 45 Kilometers. Granted, Norway dig tunnels to avoid driving around/over mountains, but the result is the same with tunnels being safer than icy roads ... and Norway still has lots of those.

  • @TheEternalPie
    @TheEternalPieКүн бұрын

    1:35 - I'm confused, how does an increase of 43% end up at 3.5 million? 43% of (almost) 1 million would be 430,000? Which would end up at around 1,430,000? Am I missing something?

  • @Blue138UEF
    @Blue138UEF6 күн бұрын

    As a Swede I can dispute this by saying that Swedes especially Stockholmians walk and drive on the left side still

  • @nickpetrovski8376
    @nickpetrovski837624 күн бұрын

    Can someone send the design engineers and construction company to Melbourne, Australia? We are getting a 6km tunnel that is projected to cost at least €16 billion! 🤦‍♂️

  • @magnushem8734

    @magnushem8734

    7 күн бұрын

    Does Melbourne have the same geological conditions, i.e. hard rock like granite?

  • @petronic1234

    @petronic1234

    7 күн бұрын

    @@magnushem8734don’t know but it wouldn’t be a factor in the cost, on projects like this in Melbourne it’s all unions and money changing from one department to the next. a worker holding up a stop sign earns over $200k a year. Would Sweden pay similarly?

  • @magnushem8734

    @magnushem8734

    7 күн бұрын

    @@petronic1234 Labor unions are very strong here in Sweden, but I guess the salary+tax per employee is half of that. Ground conditions are critical. My sister is a geotechnical engineer. Most of Stockholm has excellent granite rock, except for a few regions with lots of cracks. Göteborg was built on mud along the river, and they are constructing a tunnel get very expensive and the city has been partly demolished. The most infamous tunnel in Sweden is Hallandsåsen, which is a mountain of gravel on the west coast. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallands%C3%A5s_Tunnel

  • @lukedowneslukedownes5900
    @lukedowneslukedownes590022 күн бұрын

    Can you talk about the Super collider ? They invested billions into it back 20 years ago I believe but they stopped. A video from a professor like you would be awesome

  • @ACK333
    @ACK33321 күн бұрын

    That should be the one who signed the contract approved the contracts with his team members telling everyone if the project is pointless or not.

  • @padelistsavalos7724
    @padelistsavalos77246 күн бұрын

    here is an idea for reducing carbon emmisions in the air with tunnels,since tunnels need intakes andd exhausts for air on the underground,you put carbon capture machines right at the air filtering system.That way all the emmisions from cars on the tunnel get trapped and stored in underground rocks before ever coming on the surface,that way you get the best of both worlds,less trafic in the city ,more space for construction and parks,as well as better air quality

  • @JP_TaVeryMuch
    @JP_TaVeryMuch23 күн бұрын

    7:47 What, no mention of a second use for the tunnels? There must be. Sweden's famous for it: nuclear shelters, emergency rain storage tanks, public sports halls and swimming pools. Guess we'll have to wait to find out.

  • @phasm42
    @phasm4220 күн бұрын

    Interesting that they went with drill & blast instead of a TBM. Googling, it's seems TBMs are better suited for tunneling through stable rock, so I guess Stockholm is lacking that..?

  • @erik_med_e

    @erik_med_e

    11 күн бұрын

    Since there is no tradition of building TBM tunnels in Sweden’s hard rock, the cost of planning and design is higher compared to alternative methods like “drill and blast.” Also a road with multiple traffic intersections is not favorable for TBM. Sure TBMs are better suited for tunneling through stable rock, but many times Stockholm’s geological conditions does not favor this method.

  • @brigadgeneralvoid2508

    @brigadgeneralvoid2508

    7 күн бұрын

    Rock is too hard, there's a lot of water, and we already use drill and blast extensively

  • @KlanHoffman
    @KlanHoffman9 күн бұрын

    Stockholm and Tirana is told to be the only capitals in Europe without a road around it.

  • @KaiseruSoze
    @KaiseruSoze24 күн бұрын

    If you blast a tunnel you crack surrounding rock. Given the continual need to build tunnels, it seems that reusable tunnel boring machines make sense for this project and future projects. I would think a triple wide boring machine would work well or a modular single/double/tripple etc. boring machine would be even better.

  • @Car_Mo

    @Car_Mo

    24 күн бұрын

    TBM's isn't always the best solutions, I can see an issue with lowering a TBM down to 80-100m in order to drill in several places/directions at once to save time. It could be that drilling/blasting/excavating is the faster and cheaper solution in the end. They used TMB's to drill the north passage (norra länken) 10 years ago, so I'm sure it was considered

  • @jsoderba

    @jsoderba

    23 күн бұрын

    The whole reason the tunnels are so deep (and why the Stockholm subway is so deep) is that it's much faster and cheaper to blast through solid rock than using a TBM in soft material. You can see on the footage that the walls and ceiling of the tunnel is largely naked granite bedrock. In sedimentary layers they would have to cover everything on concrete to keep the tunnel from collapsing and keep water out. There are still some big cracks they have to cover, but for most of the tunnels they can just blast straight on through.

  • @intractablemaskvpmGy
    @intractablemaskvpmGy24 күн бұрын

    Consider the Austin-San Antonio I-35 second level roadway projects happening right now. It's going up fast, they don't know where the money to pay for it will come from but they are building it anyway. It's a congestion nightmare

  • @johnb0815
    @johnb081524 күн бұрын

    this is still a big and impressive project, but we've seen a lot of those here on this channel. the switch to right side traffic mentioned in the intro sounds a lot more interesting, though. why they did it is pretty clear, but it would be nice to know how they did that without causing tons of traffic accidents.

  • @GackFinder

    @GackFinder

    8 күн бұрын

    Sweden switching to right-hand driving didn't cause many accidents at all (except one case of drunk-driving on the left-hand side the day of the switch). Overall, the switch also reduced accidents, because 90% of the cars in Sweden already had their steering wheel on the left, so when Sweden switched, we got left-hand steering in right-hand traffic. Left-hand steering in left-hand traffic is as dangerous as right-hand steering in right-hand traffic because your field of view is being both offset and reduced.

  • @thefuture253
    @thefuture25324 күн бұрын

    Bro dropped a whole gallon

  • @spaceman9599
    @spaceman95995 күн бұрын

    Thanks for this - good to see it from this perspective. One could only hope there was a better solution than trying to cram all of Sweden into one city whilst the hinterland dies. We have the tech to work from anywhere after all and this idea of having to stack all the companies on top of each other seems very 20th century.

  • @shawnfromportland
    @shawnfromportland24 күн бұрын

    4bn to go under a major city and water ways? in usa this would cost 800bn

  • @Darubah

    @Darubah

    24 күн бұрын

    Don't you worry by the time we're actually done we'll have attleast doubled the budget, most likely trippled it.

  • @davesilver5493
    @davesilver549324 күн бұрын

    The far less than 1km train tunnel between New York and New Jersey is costing 16 billion. Something doesn’t add up.

  • @alexevansuk
    @alexevansuk21 күн бұрын

    Fire suppression is water? With the switch to electric vehicles, that might be short sighted.

  • @GackFinder

    @GackFinder

    8 күн бұрын

    Stop it with these independent thoughts, just trust the government!

  • @brigadgeneralvoid2508

    @brigadgeneralvoid2508

    7 күн бұрын

    Believe it or not but you need water to put out electric car fires

  • @stefansoder6903
    @stefansoder690323 күн бұрын

    I think all the tunnelling is done now. The rest of the work is fitting out the tunnels etc.

  • @Calyx
    @Calyx24 күн бұрын

    Driving in Stockholm is one of the worst experiences in my life. I live in Örebro, about 2 hours away, and had to go to the embassy. The parking is expensive, every street has a million rules, and the traffic was just ridiculous.

  • @victorcapel2755

    @victorcapel2755

    24 күн бұрын

    That's why people in this city generally don't drive. Contrary to what the video said, most people does not take the car. In the city center, metro ridership is almost 3 times higher than car ridership and car ownership has been declining for years.

  • @roevhaal578

    @roevhaal578

    24 күн бұрын

    @@victorcapel2755 Yea this video is pretty bad, it makes Stockholm seem like Houston.

  • @61dhjeinjnskqe980

    @61dhjeinjnskqe980

    24 күн бұрын

    man ska inte köra i innerstaden

  • @tomasingihrolfsson9749

    @tomasingihrolfsson9749

    24 күн бұрын

    Sounds horrible! Have you considered taking the Mälartåg? I haven't personally taken it on this leg (only the Nyköping route), seems to be slightly faster than driving without traffic on the website (and costs slightly less than just the fuel)

  • @victorcapel2755

    @victorcapel2755

    24 күн бұрын

    @@Tom_Johnsen All of Stockholm inner city, as well as the E4 through the city, are tolled.

  • @rrsee-zk3zu
    @rrsee-zk3zu22 күн бұрын

    Feature ASEAN Countires Projects please! Would love see them.