Sweden and Finland join Nato military exercises | BBC News
Sweden and Finland have joined the first test of Nato's new military plans in response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine
It is the alliance’s largest since the end of the Cold War, involving 90,000 military personnel.
One of the key stated objectives of Exercise Steadfast Defender is to deter Russia.
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Cheers from Poland to our nordic friends from Norway, Sweden and also to Finland!
@wish-keeper
2 ай бұрын
Dziękuję! 🇵🇱 🤝🏻 🇫🇮
@314murdacapitall
2 ай бұрын
Why they keep speaking up on Russia??? It’s like we want war like we want to provoke them it’s so dumb!!
@laylachisom8996
2 ай бұрын
Sad
@zeffster2
2 ай бұрын
Takk 🇳🇴❤️🇵🇱 Dette er stort for oss i Nord.
@jamesgreen1116
2 ай бұрын
Do people like you actually remember what Ukraine done to your own people? 😂
All best and greetings from the Philippines. Congrats Sweden and Godbless! 🇵🇭 🇸🇪 💛
@peterpanini96
2 ай бұрын
Good luck Philippines... good luck. 👍
@Sparrows1121
2 ай бұрын
Love Phillippines from Norway!
@jerkkub
2 ай бұрын
Love Philippines from Finland!
@jhngfdsdfgkjnbv
Ай бұрын
Finnish authorities asked the EU for money for regions near the closed border with Russia
@petrusinvictus3603
Ай бұрын
Best wishes from Arctic North to men and women to Pacific! Winter is comming!🤨🤔😁
Welcome to our Scandinavian friends from Denmark :)
@maurikolu1991
2 ай бұрын
Nordic friends now together.
"...we have allies to depend on" - And we are happy to have you as an ally! - Greetings and regards from Germany. 🍀
Thank you Vlad for strengthening the alliance.
@Aaqe
2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much, mr poo tin. We are so grateful to you. Sorry soon you will be deported from Ukraine including Crimea. You asked for it and you are getting it. Thank you so much.
To our friends and allies, Sweden and Finland. welcome and you were always our allies.....And now we are all stronger with you. Welcome.
@user-ju7rm6gv1g
2 ай бұрын
Finland was on Nazi's side at the last WWII. Sweden remained 'neutral'. So, Germany and Finland at it together at again - trying to attack Russia. No lessons learned.
@peterpanini96
2 ай бұрын
Specially when allies don't have ammo to defend themselfs. 😂
And now Sweden and Finland, you are finally home to be safer and to make your family stronger. C'est merveilleux de vous voir à la maison avec nous tous. Merci beaucoup, chère Suède et Finlande.
@fordwrc2006
2 ай бұрын
Slava Rossiya! 💪🏼🇷🇺🪆
@rickyrickardo3445
2 ай бұрын
@@fordwrc2006Kremlin pay you a ruble every post?
@fordwrc2006
2 ай бұрын
@@rickyrickardo3445 2000 Rubles per comment yeah
@londop.a.3048
2 ай бұрын
@@fordwrc2006 Do you get paid now in Euros or Dollars when the ruble has crashed ?
@fordwrc2006
2 ай бұрын
@@londop.a.3048 Ruble is doing great mate I swap it for gold bars on weekends 😂😂😂
Wise move by Sweden 🇸🇪 and Finland 🇫🇮
@RRRR0707
2 ай бұрын
A very wise move. why be friends with a large and resource-rich neighboring state, it is better to become its enemy. and become a servant of a distant and greedy state
@adrianatkins10
2 ай бұрын
@@RRRR0707you're conveniently leaving out that Russia is a dictatorship which is burning and raping Ukraine for no reason. You want to be friends with a neighbour who might kill you for no reason?
@Meld61
2 ай бұрын
Totally ,have aligned themselves with a morally bankrupt organisation , severing ties with an energy supplier whilst making themselves a nuclear target 😂😂😂😂 smart move 👍
@Snugggg
2 ай бұрын
@@Meld61 you guys are precious.
@Bubajumba
2 ай бұрын
@@RRRR0707 What you talking about, Sweden and Finland have a great relationship with Norway they have all the energy they need.
Welcome Sweden and Finland, from the USA! Glad to have you on board!
@skarhabekgreyrukh8601
2 ай бұрын
Sweden and Finland will pay for this.... Trump gonna increase nato member paidship
@samfisher7953
2 ай бұрын
not on board the Titanic, i hope.
@peace_harmony65
2 ай бұрын
@@samfisher7953Russia salty tears 😭🤖🤡
@johannagarda
2 ай бұрын
@@samfisher7953 You don't need to be a Russian to have salty tears.
@MacDaddy8200
2 ай бұрын
@@samfisher7953 Who wishes they were Russian? You must have a shitty life.
Sweden & Finland, small but superhuman tough!
@varavarala313
Ай бұрын
reserves consisting of boys who get winded by taking stairs. sadly.
Lake NATO is complete
@ugaboga9829
2 ай бұрын
No. Not yet😈
@bjornnordstrom
2 ай бұрын
It will be when St Petersburg breaks out of Russia and form a new country. This may actually happen!
@muzak913
2 ай бұрын
@@bjornnordstrom very unlikely
@edofluit6568
2 ай бұрын
@@bjornnordstrom what dumb video have you watched on this... I can guarantee you its clickbait
@larsrons7937
2 ай бұрын
@@bjornnordstrom Eventually Königsberg (the name used by the local seperatists) will break free from the shackles of Moscow and form their own country. They will need support as well as a lot of reforms concerning freedom and democracy before they can be integrated into the European community, but so many before them have succeeded in that, so if they put work into it they'll get there.
Oh dear Mr Putin.... you don't stand a chance.......This is what you made Sir.
@jamesgreen1116
2 ай бұрын
Why does nato not face them then 32 v 1?
@peterbarton9856
2 ай бұрын
@@jamesgreen1116 Your worship of Putin's little pp is noted
@fordwrc2006
2 ай бұрын
Slava Rossiya! 💪🏼🇷🇺🪆
@peterbarton9856
2 ай бұрын
@@fordwrc2006 You need to ditch your Ruski boyfriend
@fordwrc2006
2 ай бұрын
@@peterbarton9856 I ditched ya Mom first
Welcome Sweden!!🇸🇪🇺🇸
@basedglennuk
2 ай бұрын
Sweden rules: kzread.info/dash/bejne/e35kpdqDZN3WXZM.htmlsi=xP9jNBqRdfnc5cqM
Congratulations from Papua New Guinea 🇵🇬
And the "NATO Salesman of the Year" award goes to.... Vladimir Putin! Mr. Putin, who won the coveted award also last year by ushering Finland into NATO says he's "humbled by the honour". However, Mr Putin's close associate Sergei Liarov will be accepting the award on his behalf, quoting "legal issues" that restrict Mr. Putin's travelling abroad.
@RRRR0707
2 ай бұрын
Putin's main task is to prevent Ukraine from joining NATO. he completed this task. Sweden and Finland have always been partners and good neighbors of Russia. and now Russia will send its nuclear missiles at them. Sweden-Finland used to trade with Russia and exchange tourists, now the Swedes and Finns will dig a bunker. It was not very smart to change good relations with a neighboring country and become a slave to the distant United States. And don't tell me that Russia is an aggressive country and threatens Europe. First, this is a myth created by the United States in order to bring you into NATO faster. Secondly, the most aggressive countries are the United States and the United Kingdom. think about Iran, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Vietnam, Yugoslavia.
@Aaqe
2 ай бұрын
LOL Very well written and straight to the point where it hurts Mr Poo tin. Thank you.
@briancarno8837
2 ай бұрын
@@Aaqe how is Putin hurt..? he is winning
@Aaqe
2 ай бұрын
LOL How is he winning? He tried to conquer the whole of Ukraine in four days and retreated to a small fraction of the country which he will soon lose including Crimea. How is he winning? He wanted to prevent Ukraine from joining NATO and made both Finland and Sweden join NATO. Thank you poo tin, for making NATO stronger. How is he winning? From aggressor he became a wanted criminal by the International Court of Justice. Now YOU tell us how your beloved poo tin is winning. @@briancarno8837
@Aaqe
2 ай бұрын
KZread has deleted my reply.@@briancarno8837
Welcome to NATO friends!
@briancarno8837
2 ай бұрын
NATO doesnt look that friendly...they are all squawbling now
The last nations Putin wanted to join nato have joined 😂
@RRRR0707
2 ай бұрын
Putin did not want Georgia and Ukraine to join NATO. He did what he wanted to do. Georgia and Ukraine will not be in NATO😂
@Aaqe
2 ай бұрын
OH but they WILL be in NATO in the near future. Stay tuned poo tin lover. Stay tuned.@@RRRR0707
@Snugggg
2 ай бұрын
@@RRRR0707 why didnt he want them to join?
Stronger than ever!
@fordwrc2006
2 ай бұрын
Slava Rossiya! 💪🏼🇷🇺🪆
@saje446
2 ай бұрын
@@fordwrc2006 rossiya, idi na khuy!
@fordwrc2006
2 ай бұрын
@@saje446 🇷🇺🫡
@vihannes3
2 ай бұрын
@@fordwrc2006 Shouldn't you be posting under different accounts instead of spamming with the same one? I don't think your employers will be happy with that
@fordwrc2006
2 ай бұрын
@@vihannes3 I’m employed by myself moron
Congratulations SWEDEN and FINLAND.😊🙏
_"Si vis pacem, para bellum!"_
@JonMidtan
2 ай бұрын
Baltic: Total War
Russia not gonna like it! And better think twice before invading Finland
@paul7TM
2 ай бұрын
Jeez mate...they have been stuck in the east of Ukraine for two years. How are they going to invade Finland.
@danielngove
2 ай бұрын
@@paul7TM fantabulous
@paul7TM
2 ай бұрын
@@danielngoveWell one minute Russia's enemies are saying how rubbish their military is. Next saying they better not invade Poland Finland Germany or Dover. Which is it 😅. For the record the ruskies are not what they were. And neither are our UK forces sadly. Great service people but too many cutbacks.
@paul7TM
2 ай бұрын
@@Godwins.About what. One minute people are making fun of how rubbish their military is. The next how they better not invade countries in Europe. So which is it.
@MenBehavingBadly.
2 ай бұрын
@@Godwins.ok clown explain how your so stupid, I have 2 mates fighting in Ukraine army right now I talk to monthly Russia and Ukraine are both failing 🤣🤣🤣
🇸🇪🤝🏻🇫🇮
Well, it finally happened officially. I will be fully satisfied when the Sabaton band is appointed the official rock band of NATO (and we play their "Gott mit uns" for Putin on the Russian border from the speakers) and at least of the new European alliance that is being forged before our eyes, and certainly among the Nordic countries. My God, it's almost like alternate history. Since the Kalmar Union. All of Scandinavia united in one military alliance From Iceland to Finland, From Norway to Denmark. This is History with a capital H. Thanks Mr. Pustler.
Fun fact: The Finnish military alone after the mobilization of the defence forces outnumbers the original Russian invasion force sent on their "special military operation" in 2022.
@314murdacapitall
2 ай бұрын
Why they keep speaking up on Russia??? It’s like we want war like we want to provoke them it’s so dumb!!
@Vapourized90
2 ай бұрын
And that's just the wartime reserve. Total reserve is around 1 million soldiers.
@herptek
2 ай бұрын
@@Vapourized90 It is the so called "allocated reserve", or however you translate "sijoitettu reservi", plus the professional career soldiers which amounts to 280 000. This can also be easily increased. The total maximum of trained reservists, including the so called unallocated reserve size is about up there as you stated, around 870 000. Age of the reservists is the primary limiting factor on how many there can be at maximum.
@Vapourized90
2 ай бұрын
@@herptekSijoitettu reservihän se taitaa virallinen termi olla.
@fredrikjohansson8882
2 ай бұрын
And we Swedes love you for it. Wish our political leadership would have kept more of the Swedish readiness. Now it will take time to rebuild.
Hi, Vlad!
@larsrons7937
2 ай бұрын
Bunker-grandpa on stillettos is probably looking at a mirror now asking _"What did I do wrong?"_ 🤣
@Aaqe
2 ай бұрын
LOL "What did I do wrong?" He woke up the free world in addition to losing in Ukraine. @@larsrons7937
@Snugggg
2 ай бұрын
@@larsrons7937 he would never blame himself for anything. always someone elses fault. thats why everyone else falls to their deaths instead of him. classic dictator personality. exactly like hitler.
Best regards
ikke et sekund for tidlig ❤
I hope the people of Sweden can rest easier knowing that they're now a part of NATO.
I LOVE YOU SWEDEN LOVE FROM WISCONSIN
@surfer-uy5ys
2 ай бұрын
😮
Powerful combo
Every night, at bedtime..... Pootie-Poot now attempts to console himself by hysterically screaming into a fluffy pillow.
@buzzin010
2 ай бұрын
Poor pootie 😂
@ebiekem
2 ай бұрын
That you had to create and join a military alliance focused on 1 country clearly shows who goes to bed scared.
@314murdacapitall
2 ай бұрын
Why they keep speaking up on Russia??? It’s like we want war like we want to provoke them it’s so dumb!!
@Aaqe
2 ай бұрын
Poor poo tie indeed. LMAO @@buzzin010
Welcome from Canada🇨🇦🍻
@fordwrc2006
2 ай бұрын
Slava Rossiya! 💪🏼🇷🇺🪆
@CatManOfTaste
2 ай бұрын
@@fordwrc2006🥱
@fordwrc2006
2 ай бұрын
@@CatManOfTaste 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺
@CatManOfTaste
2 ай бұрын
@@fordwrc2006 lowest effort bait
@fordwrc2006
2 ай бұрын
@@CatManOfTaste 🇷🇺🫡
+2 in NATO, Putin is a pure Russian genius. There is no way for Russian Zombie TV to cope with this major Russian geopolitical failure. Plus, the fact that Russia didn't object to Finland's NATO membership proved that all this Russian whining about "mortal threat" from NATO expansion was simply Russian propaganda.
I find it interesting that Sweden and Finland would join; given that the threat to themselves isn't that high; its the Baltic states which are vulnerable and likely to be the trigger, so Sweden and Finland are signing up to defend somebody else, more than themselves. It's a show of solidarity with others; against a common threat.
@robharris8844U
2 ай бұрын
The Baltic States are less chance to be attacked now with Sweden and Finland members. Kaliningrad is now a worry for Vlad as the Baltic is now NATO owned.
@kennychad2821
2 ай бұрын
Perhaps, but Finland was smart to join NATO, look what Russia did to them and Poland in WW2. It just makes sense for Sweden being between two NATO members already. Good for Sweden, good for a stronger NATO overall.
Sweden is now gearing up fast and rebuilding its armed forces!
Finland did say to putler that the reason for them joining nato was because of him after all
@RRRR0707
2 ай бұрын
Finland told Putin that Finns do not need tourists, cheap resources, security, friendly and peaceful relations with Russia. Instead, Finland chose hosts abroad. Now Finland will receive Russian troops on its borders and will come under the sights of Russian nuclear weapons. well, the loss of trade and economic relations with a major supplier of resources. Yes, Finland is a big winner and will feel safe sitting in the bunker.😂
Im very proud of you thank you for everything
The very thing putin tried to scare them away from just made them want to join more 😂
Welcome aboard. 👍
Before NATO the snow spoke Finnish. After joining NATO the snow now speaks Finnish, English, German, French, Norwegian, Belgian, Swedish, Italian and more.
I love Nordic --- From Finland
Thanks Phewtin!!!
@Aaqe
2 ай бұрын
Poo tin .... lots of poo
FRIENDS, BROTHERS FROM EUROPE, ASIA AND AMERICA 🇺🇸🇩🇪🏴🇵🇱🇬🇧🇫🇷🇨🇦🇮🇹🇪🇸🇨🇿🇸🇪🇹🇷🇪🇺❗ UKRAINE NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT IN DONBASS NOW, WE FIGHT FOR WHOLE DEMOCRATIC WORLD❗ THANK YOU PEOPLE 🙏🇺🇦
Congrats, Pootler...you've finally expanded NATO!....👏👏👏
@RRRR0707
2 ай бұрын
And congratulations to you. Georgia and Ukraine will never be in NATO😂😂
@degviela
16 күн бұрын
@@RRRR0707Finland is really close to Saint-Peterburg second largest city in Russia,just saying.
The fear of russia is the beginning of wisdom.
@ghansu
2 ай бұрын
We here in Finland must be very wise then.
@RRRR0707
2 ай бұрын
@@ghansuYes, Putin is constantly threatening Finland.
@varavarala313
Ай бұрын
oh boy...
we are all friends
SISU SUOMI 🇫🇮🇺🇸🇸🇪
One for All, All for One. NATO STRONG 💙💙
Malaysia noted..🇲🇾
I'm really, deeply personally thankful for this as a Norwegian. Not feeling as vulnerable as before now. I know that even if NATO was made up of only the Nordic countries, this would be enough to not just give up at the sight of danger, but to give a real fight. These soldiers are making their ancestors proud.
Putin is punching the air right now 🤣
@AllyStrikesBack
2 ай бұрын
He's pulling hair of a member of staff because he's bald.
@d4rd1v79
2 ай бұрын
@@AllyStrikesBackhair? Does he have hair?
@MenBehavingBadly.
2 ай бұрын
Crying in to his lines and vodka
@johannagarda
2 ай бұрын
@@AllyStrikesBack 😀😀😀
@314murdacapitall
2 ай бұрын
Why they keep speaking up on Russia??? It’s like we want war like we want to provoke them it’s so dumb!!
They stop fika.
Welkommen
Finland can now feel it's borders are secure.
@RRRR0707
2 ай бұрын
Well, yes. Finland used to be friends with Russia, exchanged tourists and received cheap resources. Russia has long withdrawn its troops from the border with Finland. Finland is safe now, except that Russia has targeted it with nuclear missiles and will again deploy its troops on the border with Finland.
Wilkommen, Sverige i Findland fra USA!
Congratulations!
@Aaqe
2 ай бұрын
Congratulations to poo tin for his success in making Sweden and Finland join NATO. Thank you mate. Good job!
yay
Sweden, welcome to NATO! We are honored to have you.
I wonder if both the UK and the USA will have an air/army base in Finland or Sweden now....
@nobodyherepal3292
2 ай бұрын
The US actually has planes in Finland now.
@gunshipzeroone3546
2 ай бұрын
@@nobodyherepal3292 oh OK thanks 🇬🇧 🇺🇸
@Yuushiboy
2 ай бұрын
No permanent foreign military bases on Swedish soil during peace time.
@nobodyherepal3292
2 ай бұрын
@@Yuushiboy except Gotland apparently.
@Yuushiboy
2 ай бұрын
@@nobodyherepal3292 Not even Gotland. Permanent military bases will not be allowed.
By eroplan or by car who is easy??
By Noway by Sweden also friends??
FINLAND AND SWEDEN HAVE TRAINING WITH NATO PARTNERS MANY YEARS NOW. EARLIER ONLY PARTNERS ON ALLY, NOW FULL MEMBERS IN NATO.
💪💙
Snow suits look mint
"Carpenters." I am dying of laughter. ☝️☝️🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 ☝️☝️🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nordics Power #Sweden 🇸🇪#Finland🇫🇮 #NATO
Putin must be fumin' rn 😂
@user-ci7rr9oi1o
2 ай бұрын
Also putin fanboys here in the Philippines 😂
WW3 is gonna suck but it’s gonna be a badass story to tell in history
Fantasic.Time for Putin to catch a wake up.
@314murdacapitall
2 ай бұрын
Why they keep speaking up on Russia??? It’s like we want war like we want to provoke them it’s so dumb!!
@teodorachim4757
2 ай бұрын
Wake up ? for what ? This is all propaganda ... Russia does not care about the Baltic states or invade europe.
good to see all of Scandinavia unified in one alliance.
All for one, and one for all...🇬🇧
@mnufeld8448
2 ай бұрын
Hear hear.. from 🇨🇦
@semprefidelis76
2 ай бұрын
I doubt the Europeans would come to help Turkey
@mnufeld8448
2 ай бұрын
@@semprefidelis76reluctantly maybe more by duty or obligation,on other hand the Turks did ratify both Sweden nd Finland joining and in Swedens case ahead of Hungary ,which had said it wouldnt be last. & I remember back in 2015 when that Turkish aircraft got shot down I think, an F 16, spiilover from the fight against isis ,Nato sent Patriot batteries to SE Turkiy. bit different time maybe, but they did get some help ,and yes a bit reluctantly ..
Cheers 🙏🙏🙏👍👍👍👍
To complete this kaliningrad needs to declare its independence and form their own country.
Den här leken ka ni göra i badkaret .
putin angry 😡
Seems like future generations didn't learn a lesson from WWII
@andrewadams6905
2 ай бұрын
Yeah, Russian Reich started a war for territory in Europe again...
@londop.a.3048
2 ай бұрын
Finland has learned from history, the eastern neighbor is aggressive again, no longer alone.
The Baltic frontier is now secured, however, precaution must still be exercised for as long as Putler is alive.
"They're not calling the enemy Russia." Norway to Nato: "Yeah, we got some Vietnamese farmers dropping into our Northern cities, can anyone help?"
@ugaboga9829
2 ай бұрын
Sweden: "Andoran troops on your left!"
@keonliller_2287
2 ай бұрын
they do
👍
Сколько финов после вступления в нато нужно будет чтобы вкрутить лампочку, после четверти Сармата не одного лампочка тоже уже не нужна будет
@londop.a.3048
Ай бұрын
Do you get paid now in Euros or Dollars because the ruble has crashed ? Nothing new, Russians are constantly threatening with nukes, Russia army has no other credibility left
Great news, but let's hope WIII doesn't happen.
@mingming9604
2 ай бұрын
WW III is just another putin propaganda!
Glad to see BBC bringing back those 1970s sounding news reporters
@MrDosonhai
2 ай бұрын
Good old white British man's voice.
@colinrobinson4233
2 ай бұрын
@@MrDosonhaias it should be.
@labrinth999
2 ай бұрын
What the hell are you on about? This is just a southern accent, it's not even RP
Putin basically caused what he didnt want. Shell of a man 😂
Correct Sweden and Finland did the genius thing of consolidating forces with NATO rather than risk their lone technology against the Predator Russia.
Ok swedan and Finland where located in the world I am coral ???
Good to show force to Putin. That is the language he understands. Greetings from Finland.
'Super Trooper....'
Sweden also needs to provide leadership to NATO. They have a history of capable generals like the British.
Congratulation and Welcome from England.
I love Sweden and my town. 💙💙💙💙💙💙
@JohnSmith-fz1wh
2 ай бұрын
They have both failed.
Yes ! There are some kilometers of boarder that Norway have together with Russia ! Rest 1300 KILOMETERS we Finnish have with the Russians or our basic enemy during centuries.
so sad
🇺🇸🇸🇪🇺🇸🇸🇪🇺🇸🇸🇪
@fordwrc2006
2 ай бұрын
Slava Rossiya! 💪🏼🇷🇺🪆
NATO's allied with all of the vikings now, sweet
@JohnSmith-fz1wh
2 ай бұрын
Wrong. They will all be African countries in the near future.
When will those Russian citizens that want Peace and Happiness rise up against putin. WE ALL CAN LIVE WITH PEACE AND POSTERITY !!!
Welcome new vikings on board!
first 300 days we all laughed at Russia, but my opinion they are not to under estimate. nowadays foot soldiers can't win wars, it need more air superiority + strategy.
@mv_5878
2 ай бұрын
You cannot underestimate the Russian willingness to accept huge losses over a meaningless objective.
@BugsbunnyEh
2 ай бұрын
@@mv_5878 if i said i'm catholic and a Muslim might deny my religion and vise versa, same goes to both side of this war. they have their reasons and we have ours.
what happened to your face Putler?
NATO must not afraid Russia, and NATO must stop Russia WAR,and NATO know to stop Russia WAR,
@RRRR0707
2 ай бұрын
and NATO is to blame for the war with Russia. If Ukraine had maintained its neutral status, Russia would never have fought with Ukraine.
@yantoyankee840
2 ай бұрын
let get it straight,Russia took Crimea,it is part of Ukraine 2014,and the reason Ukraine want to join NATO, and NATO must protect Ukraine,Ukraine doesn’t want neutral situation,Ukraine want to join NATO,Ukraine must join NATO.Ukraine belong Ukraine people,and Ukraine is Ukraine people,
@RRRR0707
2 ай бұрын
@@yantoyankee840 Let's clarify. If Ukraine had respected its neutral status and had not planned to deploy an American naval base in Crimea, Crimea would still be Ukrainian. there is no need to distort cause and effect, it is dishonest on your part
The Rus bots are tugging each other off real hard in this comment section 😂