Hearing Ernst Degners role described as "active role in development" is too funny. That's easily the best alternative wording for industrial espionage I've heard. :-D

@mohba01

3 жыл бұрын

atleat they mentioned it , and MZ is defunct now anyway. very cool to see that old persons are still around who know the history ! cheers !

@gerokron3412

3 жыл бұрын

After the contruction of the Berlin Wall in 1961, the writing was on the wall that MZ racing was over rather sooner than later. The team wouldn´t get visas anyways for western european racetracks, so the title in 1962 should be the last hurrah. Degener was able to flee in Sweden 1962, his family was smuggled out simutaneously out of the GDR under mortal danger in the trunk of a car. It´s quite silly to expect loyality under such circumstances, so Degener sold his knowledge to the young, vibrant team from a - back in the day - very exotic country. This has not much to do with industrial espionage, but very much with politics and the devastating effect authoritarian regimes tend to have on their citizens.

@adhub3971

3 жыл бұрын

@ Gero Kron It's still stolen. The used technics to win the grand prix victories we're ideas from MZ and Walter Kaaden.

@kurtwollermann2210

2 жыл бұрын

that sounds very german to me

@k4106dt

2 жыл бұрын

"Active" meaning packing MZ cylinders into his suitcase.

I’m an American who has owned nothing but Suzuki’s all my life I love their 2 stroke heritage I would give anything to see them bring back the RM125 and RM250

This series is AWESOME! Suzuki has always been my favorite. From being a little kid drawing Suzukis, to adult life owning, riding and racing Suzukis. So many legendary machines! Building/restoring them, the brilliant engineering and elegant, efficient design is a joy to work with. The SACS era GSFs, GSXFs, and GSXRs are probably my all time favorite and get excited everytime I open the garage door!

Suzuki doesn’t always have the Fastest Bikes however they always Handle as if They Are On Rails and Nobody builds a better gearbox. I’m 60 years old and have been riding since age 5. Over the years I’ve owned and ridden every make sold in the U.S. and bikes that were imported by friends with the $$$ to get them into the country and Suzuki transmissions are absolutely The Best I’ve ever experienced.

@malcolmwhite6588

10 ай бұрын

Agreed the only issue some of the Suzukis from the 70s through to the early 80s were some weak electrical systems both low voltage and the high tension system I seem to have it completely sussed and from my first of the first year (1985) GSX-R,s never experienced any electrical problems with any of my many Suzuki after that point - and I have owned lots of Suzukis more than any other brand that I owned -I think over a dozen of my many bikes have been Suzukis? and like you say I always implicitly trusted the handling of my big Suzukis

thank you for the excellent video and thank you to the dedicated engineers who gave a lifetimes work in the development of suzuki motorcycles.

Very inspirational, especially to the new generations of riders like me. I'mma proud suzuki owner ❤️ #suzuking

Excellent informative video. Thanks Suzuki 👍✊✊

Great series! They sure did some damage in GP Motocross👍👍👍 I think my favorite MX GP racer and championship of all time was Akira Watanabe’s 125cc world Motocross Championship in 1978. He is the one and only Japanese rider to ever win a world championship and a hell of a nice guy. I lived in Japan from 1980-1984 and raced motocross over there, on Suzuki’s from 1980 through 1982. Terrific company.

@hondaxl250k0

3 жыл бұрын

Man I had a 78 Suzuki rm250b . Man wish I Did not sell that rocket ship..

Japanese motorcycles clearly the very best of all time. Thank you Japan.

@user-kl8mo8ms5p

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you too!Love SUZUKI !fromjapan～🐶🐶🗻

Would have liked to see more of the engineering side such as footage of manufacture of the 50cc bikes.

i have owned three suzukis and they are outstanding machines.........they have the soul of japan

Wonderful to see Hugh Anderson M.B. E. from New Zealand, who made a significant contribution to Suzuki's winning dominance in the early mid 60s. And of course the famous T20.

Eu trabalho na Suzuki ❤️ Jimny ❤️ sinto tanto orgulho disso 😍😍😍 adoro saber um pouco mais sobre a história dessa empresa, amo ver esses vídeos 🥰👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🇧🇷❤️🇯🇵

É uma pena a Suzuki ter saído das competições, Motogp e Wsbk, sempre foram muito fortes!

Made possible by Walter Kaaden from MZ. It's a shame that MZ was no longer allowed to compete in the fight for the world championship title.

@SuperTrumpMAGA

2 жыл бұрын

Don't glorify MZ on the racing 2st. engines. Suzuki, Yamaha, Honda,... other Japanese were taking over the circuits anyway !! The engineers made marvelous engines for planes before years the war already that U have no ideas dude !!!!!!

@Tuuble

2 жыл бұрын

@@SuperTrumpMAGA You don't seem to know why the Japanese brands suddenly won with 2-stroke engines. Suzuki in particular initially had no chance with their engines until Ernst Degner went from MZ to Suzuki in 1961, including company secrets. Suddenly, out of nowhere, Suzuki was in the lead from 1962, driven by former MZ driver Ernst Degner.

@clivedavies5618

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tuuble The brilliant Alan Shepherd rode for MZ and was a close friend of Walter Kaaden. He knew exactly what had happened and was contemptuous of Degner. The Stasi gave Kaaden a very hard time because of Degner and refused to allow him to leave East Germany to tend his race bikes.

@michaelbrownhill3091

Жыл бұрын

@@SuperTrumpMAGA Unfortunately K , you have no idea. Check your facts. MZ and Walter Kaden were the catalyst for the race winning two stroke machines of the Japanese , including Suzuki , of the 60s and beyond. The Japanese have built some fantastic motorcycles , but don't take the credit due credit from a dedicated and under resourced engineer , who had the achievement of winning a world title with MZ taken away from him by the MZ rider Ernst Degner.

Suzuki. I adore your engineering. Feel, sound, fit and.... really need better finish ;) I own and love a K6 GSXR 1000 With 15000 miles that runs and handles like it was new but the paint is falling off the frame, subframe, swingarm, wheels. Restoration in progress

Team Suzuki. Since 1980.

Team suzuki🥰

GREETINGS!!!!!!!!! SHELTEN HAS LANDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bharat Suzuki, a motorcycle dealer in Hadapsar, charges a 5-year insurance for a new vehicle and a one-year insurance policy. Only one year is recorded in the RTO. Consumers should beware of these scams.

Suzuki...

@user-kl8mo8ms5p

3 жыл бұрын

What?

kensanka？what does this word mean？

Selling commuter bikes through racing development is where it all goes wrong for the sensible side of transport.

Ernst Degner !!!!!

Shouldn't this be titled, 'Stole their way onto the world stage'?

Por favor traduscanlo a español

all done with tech. from MZ,just say so.

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Yes, it's true that Degner took MZ's engine 'secrets' to Japan with him at the end of 1961. But these weren't Kaaden's ideas. Oh no. He got the features and specifications from the actions of the crooked East German government. The truth is that when Walter Kaaden joined IFA (later called MZ) in March 1953, the government gave Kaaden one of Daniel Zimmermann's ZPH 125cc rotary disc valve two-strokes to copy. Why? How? The previous year (1952), the IFA race team which was government financed to race 125s, had been absolutely trounced by Zimmermann's private, two-man ZPH team (Bernhard Petruschke and Diethart Henkel - hence the ZPH team name). Hugely embarrassed by the end of that year, the government 'persuaded' IFA to fire its race manager Kurt Kämpf. The government then leaned on Zimmermann to divulge the ZPH's technical secrets to IFA. He stood his ground but eventually accepted a wad of government cash to hand over to IFA (and its newly-recruited race manager Walter Kaaden), one of his winning ZPH machines. With a complete ZPH to reverse-engineer (i.e. copy), how could Kaaden go wrong? The truth is, he couldn't. Like the ZPH, Kaaden's faithful copies of the ZPH motor used stuffed crankcases, full-circle flywheels, Elektron caged roller bearings (for big and small ends), boost port via a windowed piston skirt, Schnürle-scavenging via two additional transfer ports, his own patented rotary disc valve in a separate housing, twin rear exhaust ports. Amalgamating such features was light-years ahead of its time in 1952 (for example, it took Suzuki another ten years to try a rear exhaust port). So please don't ever think of Kaaden as the 'Father' of the modern two stroke engine. There is no doubt that if such an accolade was ever awarded, it would go to Daniel Zimmermann, a completely private East German engineer who designed and built from scratch, championship-winning two stroke engines for his own 1951 Zimmermann Formula 3 car (a water-cooled 500cc disc-valve twin), motorcycles (the 1952 ZPH 125cc and others) and boats (1955 Zimmermann engines for racing hydroplanes). Even today, some model engine makers incorporate Zimmermann's rotary disc valve design in their tiny aeroplane engines which are known as 'Zimmermann valve' engines.

Literally cant find any colored media from the 1960s, this is all of it.

Disliked by the east german police

Stolen Valor.

The time has come to release the NUDA AS AN ELECTRIC with heated grips 360 camera adjustable rider ride height voice activated navigation release the same features on a STREETFIGHTER ELECTRIC STYLED like the B-KING be first to the party and set standard and watch the 💵💵 poor in I'm ready to cut the check for my NUDA NOW