The chemistry of you two is amazing! I sold my 18 to a friend, loved it!

I love project bike dyno videos where you iterate to get the perfect tune. Please get more of these! And more project bike videos

Yourself and Greg have some fantastic looking machines........looking forward for the future comparison 👍 Great video again Chops.

A great video, always like you and Greg ones, two good mates who love their bikes and talk sense👍 the difference in power between a high pressure day compared with a very low pressure day can be pretty big on a powerful bike. Some excellent content Chopsy 👍🙂

@LambChopRides

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Nick appreciated buddy 👍

Loved the patience of the guy doing the tuning while you two were interpreting the live results 🤣

@LambChopRides

2 жыл бұрын

Yes haha, patience of a Saint Paul 😆

@TeamSimpsonRacing

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, they I didn't let the poor guy speak 🤣

Looking forward to the comparison ride , great vlog as usual 👍👏

@LambChopRides

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Paul

I enjoy these tech episodes - knowledge is power😊

@LambChopRides

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Paul 👍

Another great video, love the tech stuff

Looks smart with the end can like that. Look forward to the comparison video! 👍

Great video Lamb Chop. It will be good to see you both out on the GSX-R's.

Great Bike Lads brilliant road bike for a race rep enjoy

Great video guys

Great video, MSS Performance is a great company and certainly know their way around a ZX10

Another great video. One for the tech geeks 🤓👍

I do love a dyno video.

Great video Mr chops 👍

@LambChopRides

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Michael 👍 😊

The low speed and part throttle is the hardest stuff to map, that's where you spend most of your time. That peak power run means pretty much bog all in the real world. The fuelling and ignition maps and the options for deleting inputs like the O2 look very similar to Hondata that I've dabbled with on Honda cars.

Really interesting viewing 👍👍👍 thanks chops

Great stuff,thks guys.

I find a performance boost is always handy to offset excess food consumption over the Winter months. 😘 Thank God for those stretchy panels in modern leathers too! The Gixxer's looking nicely sorted for some serious action now, Chopsie. All we need now is something that vaguely resembles Spring weather... 😒

@LambChopRides

2 жыл бұрын

Haha yes I agree! 🤣 👍

Can’t get enough of gixxer content. Keep it coming!

#GixxerBoys 🔵⚪️ Love it! She’s a stunner, Pal🔥 Fair play, MacGyvering a race system, on a road bike 🤦🏻‍♂️ Even with low air pressure, 181HP and 81 ft lbs (or NM?) torque at the rear wheel, is impressive!! Well done lads! And best part is, he’s VERY happy with the throttle, and handling. Enjoy her Greggers! Next stop, The Isle of Man TT!! Btw. That funnel intro. Too funny 🤣 #TeamLCR

@LambChopRides

2 жыл бұрын

Haha thanks Mike 👍

Great video

Looks good with the "floating" end can and well done on getting the race pipe to fit on a road bike...mucho swearing no doubt with much trial and error! Good review as usual and glad all's well with the Gixxer. A back to back vlog with Greg and yours very soon?

@LambChopRides

2 жыл бұрын

Yes as soon as the weather warms up again we will be recording that one Iain 👍😁

@iainian

2 жыл бұрын

@@LambChopRides PS. Couldn't stop laughing at Tpot and you (The Big Hunts) Pie and Mash trip to good Ole London Town."Fantastic & Brilliant"

The man did a great job on the bike , it takes a lot of time to obtain a tune like that one , Greg should be happy

@LambChopRides

2 жыл бұрын

He certainly did! 👍

People get so caught up on peak numbers. The delta is the most important, as is what you can’t feel….the part throttle tuning, tip in and driveability.

Excellent video as always :) Going to take my bike for a remap soon I got akrapovic downpipes and a SC project CRT exhaust on my bike ( its very loud ) which I am worried about when I decide to get a camera and start making videos lol I might need to put the akrapovic exhaust can on with a baffle instead.

Yeh defo we want a back to back of the gixxers 👍🏼

Awesome. I’m taking my bmw to Dyno on Friday. Hoping it won’t be pissing down.

reminded me of Les Dawson lip syncing as the mill worker lady heee top video Chopsey.

Weapon Mate, these older Gixxers can really pump out the numbers 👍

@anthonymalapeau7948

2 жыл бұрын

I thought this was a new one. Chops has the old one.

I noticed Greg say it's running a bit hot at 80 degrees, is that hot though especially in the conditions? My 9r was running at 87 degrees through winter and summer, it seemed to love being at that temp, but I managed to bring that down a fair bit. First thing I done was use Motul 7100 fully synthetic oil, straight away the temps came down 3-5 degrees, I then recently removed the KLEEN air system (PAIRS system), and connected the crankcase breather to the KLEEN air system with the vacuum pump removed, and added a small Ramair filter, and blocked off the holes in the airbox (I have a video showing how I done it if interested). As the hot exhaust gases that pass through the piston rings no longer go back into the engine, the temps are down even more, I saw them go down to 78 or 79 degrees at one point, plus it is now using the extra and cleaner air to produce more power. I did shim my carbs too, but obvs you can't do that part, but definitely recommend the other mods to any bike, no need to buy block off plates for the reed valves. Next I'm changing the coolant to Motul's coolant to see if that makes a change, as I'm sure the previous owners probably just used a generic brand not formulated for bikes specifically, we'll see.

I did it Chops in my garage I fitted a full Akrapovic exhaust system over two days, thanks to a borrowed abba stand, plenty of swearing and scratches but I did my first full system install on my 2016 KTM Super Duke R SE .👍👍👍

@LambChopRides

2 жыл бұрын

Good on you buddy! Very well done 😎😎👍

@bakedbeanzontoast9078

2 жыл бұрын

@@LambChopRides thanks Chops, such a great feeling of accomplishment doing your own work on your bike I find, keep up the great vids, loving the channel, say hi to Mavis....😉👍

Way over my head the technical stuff, but still enjoyed it 👍

Now the Funnel start!😂

Ive watched this vid before and looking at the rich/lean line, it’s all over the place at low/mid rpm, which is where you’ll mainly ride. If you watch Chris Moore vids he gets the line almost flat !!

You reminded me about why i never adjusted the brake lever. The throttle housing is pinned to the bar too. Really annoying design flaw. How have you overcome it @lambchops?

More gsxr content you beauty!!!!!!

15:31 I thought the dotted line was the aim for perfect air/fuel ratio? Why the huge spike at 3-3.5k rpm? And medium spiked at 6, 8 & 9.5k rpm? Or am I missing something please?

👍👍👍

Didnt fancy taking it to Hilltop then Chops!!!!

@flamintasty

Жыл бұрын

😂

That looked like Colchester Kawasaki? Great vid 👍🏻

@LambChopRides

2 жыл бұрын

Yes the are located there 👍

👌👌👍👍

Madness my S1000R Sport Gen1 I'm 169.3whp and 87.6ftlb on a naked lol. Definitely get it put back on for piece of mind👌🏻. Love my S1000R Definitely far from bland or whatever chopsy says about them lol. Get out on one that's been woolich tuned and has some goodies then get it ripped back 💯% and see what you think mate😅😅.

I always wonder how they do it and how long it takes them to sweep the entire map and adjust all the throttle and rpm cells, because it is always seen at 100% throttle, but how do they make sure that IN EACH CELL the afr is correct?

@LambChopRides

2 жыл бұрын

They test and adjust at all throttle positions not just 100%. Well 25% 50%, 75% etc, not sure exactly what throttle positions but at some points in the throttle position. Then smooth the map between them

Looks very lean still at low and midrange RPM , just based on the A/ F ratio graph , correct me here if I,m wrong Chops

@LambChopRides

2 жыл бұрын

The final figures were done with the huge fresh air fan which was new. They werent sure what air speed it was suppling as wasn't calibrated yet so that leaned it a little for the final numbers. Leaner but not too lean

@santapodracer1980

2 жыл бұрын

Agree still looked a bit lean down low. However as they say they lean is mean 😂

How loud is the exhaust, will it get on track?

Was this tuned by the cylinder heads?

Brilliant and all the best imfo you need to get on reflash in layman's terms does that mean you don't need a power commander,, I'd like to get it done to my 06 to get the 1st 3 gear restriction out can get a dongle but the gear indicator stays I 5th 🤔🤔🤔🤔so not for me ☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️from Northern Ireland loving the videos

@LambChopRides

2 жыл бұрын

Yes no need for a power commander can do it all at the ecu level it's very clever. I'm going pc route on my old gsxr so can see the different process 👍

@cecilwilson5442

2 жыл бұрын

Great John thanks again

I'm surprised that we still don't have all dynos with sufficient air flow to mimic the real world environment i.e. The impact of ram air etc. Its still done based on experience/guestimates. A road test with a/f measuring would be interesting

@LambChopRides

2 жыл бұрын

Actually Scotty they were just implementing a huge fan to mimic this. Shame it wasn't ready for our visit 👍

@ferrumignis

2 жыл бұрын

Can you imagine a 150mph wind in a dyno cell?

@scottyuk

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Can you imagine tuning vehicles that are engineered for ram air in a room without the real world airflow. The whole room would be ideal but at least real world volumes of air directed into the air intakes. Admittedly not easy but not doing so is surely a massive compromise.

10hp improvement - that's a whole Honda Cub + more - Should give you about 55mph more speed. I'm sure that's about right?

@stephenhendry447

2 жыл бұрын

It’s saved about 20lb of weight though plus 10hp. Sounds good to me.

10:00 is this a little birdie at the end?

Chops are you looking at what parts might swap mysteriously from Greggor’s bike to yours 👍

@LambChopRides

2 жыл бұрын

Yes 🤔🤔 wonder if those wheels would fit...

Great vid guys. But let the man talk 😅

Would have been interested in how you managed to fit the headers also. Or was it too horrible to show the world? 😊

@LambChopRides

2 жыл бұрын

Headers were fine Rob, it was the end can mounting. Yes it was too long and drawn out to bore people with haha

did you not take it to the guy who did your H2 because you didn't want to take the fairing off or because this guy supplied the exhaust?

@LambChopRides

2 жыл бұрын

They supplied the exhaust so offered a matching map at a decent price. Also I wanted to see what the Woolich software was like as I've never seen it before 👍

@stevekirk6399

2 жыл бұрын

@@LambChopRides cheers. I have a video suggestion for you "Do Velocity stacks really work"? I don't see the point but bragging rights.

I’m considering an old gsxr thou but what is it like without abs?

@LambChopRides

2 жыл бұрын

It absolutely fine until you need to stop in a hurry 😆

@therealcryptorider

2 жыл бұрын

@@LambChopRides haha thats my worry 🥲

@flamintasty

2 жыл бұрын

What do you think people did before bikes came with ABS?

@therealcryptorider

2 жыл бұрын

@@flamintasty crashed

Love the vid, used Mss for all my bikes. However what I didn't like is the way you kept interrupting him.

MSG seem to be the kings of GSXR tuning

A chopsy vid...sweet!

I did my apprenticeship in Colchester. Heenan and Froude water cooled dyno ( rope wound around a drum) anyone? I must be old (still riding).

It's probably me, but wouldn't it be logical for it to show rich above the line and lean below the line? 🤔😁. Secondly, can they do a simple disable the service light on bikes - service lights drive me nuts, especially when you do your own servicing. Local Triumph dealer charges 30 minutes labour to reset the light!!!

@gregtufnall6276

2 жыл бұрын

Sure they can easily. It’s just an error or notification code which can be disabled. Cheers

@LambChopRides

2 жыл бұрын

Yes that would make more sense but guess it's just what you are used too. Service light I'm not sure... something we never asked

Why is every dyno a ‘conservative dyno’ or a ‘heart breaker’ according the dyno operators 😂

@LambChopRides

2 жыл бұрын

Haha very true!

@davidbrowning6777

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, exactly. Don’t they ever get them calibrated?

@davidharrison8762

Жыл бұрын

I used to work at cosworth in the dyno. Every day we would measure barometric pressure and vapour pressure (using a whirling barometer) and work out a correction factor. On a perfect day the correction factor would be zero, on a good day the power would be corrected down, on a bad atmospheric day the power would be corrected up. Weather makes a fair bit of difference.

@flamintasty

9 ай бұрын

@@davidharrison8762So does fuel quality.

@davidharrison8762

9 ай бұрын

@@flamintasty yep, we tested some nasty fuels back in the day, I know a few guys that had cancer, me included, I wouldn't go cranking up the ignition advance with shit fuel.

Let peeps know the costs.....lol

@LambChopRides

2 жыл бұрын

Yes it's around £450 for a mapping session as it takes most of the day. Plus costs to Woolich Racing for the license

Windows updates…. I hope your nuclear deterrence does not run on this.

@LambChopRides

2 жыл бұрын

Haha probably 🤣

Nice vid. Very interesting in general & the air pressure bit too, never even occurred to me that could be a thing in this context. Still not bad numbers though. Very interested to hear Greg's rationale for the GSXR. Also Chops it's pronounced Jixer. ; )

181hp at the rear wheel is 208hp at the crank, give or take. That is an outstanding figure. Congratulations.

@flamintasty

2 жыл бұрын

No it isn’t. Suzuki claim 202bhp at the crank. A 6bhp gain with a full system and a remap is quite pathetic!!

@rafaellastracom6411

2 жыл бұрын

@@flamintasty Yes, it is. The 2017+ GSXR 1000 makes 202hp at the crank. This is not that model. It is the 185hp K8 model which generates about 157-160hp at the wheel. The combination of exhaust and tune has increased power by around 24hp crank or 21hp at the wheel. An oustanding figure which brings this K8 up to a modern, stock 1000 cc bike.

@Heyoka-gq4wl

2 жыл бұрын

@@rafaellastracom6411 no, it is 2017+ model, the fairings and front headlight are different to the k8, I was expecting a little more to be honest, I see guys in America flashing them and getting close to 200hp

@rafaellastracom6411

2 жыл бұрын

@@Heyoka-gq4wl I´m going off the channels own video title from the last episode... ¨Modern Classic Update | New Shoes for the GSXR1000 K8¨.

Always intrigues me with altering the mapping and changing the fuelling. Does this mean when the map is altered to make it smoother, more responsive etc and the bike comes round to an MOT and is checked for emissions it'll fail as the original map was installed to comply with emission regs

@LambChopRides

2 жыл бұрын

All new bikes are built to meet very strict emission control. This is tested under load (unlike mot) Unfortunately these tight controls mean throttle response suffers. The bike won't fail an MOT emissions test as that's very basic and only done on idle

@motorcycle_workshop

2 жыл бұрын

Motorcycles are not tested for emissions on an MOT.

@jonelvidge9191

2 жыл бұрын

@@motorcycle_workshop tbh I didn’t know, I rarely keep a bike for more than 3 years 🤣🤣🤣😇