First time watching a video of yours. Nice video! Watched it from start to finish, very clear and enjoyable to watch.

Been running the Lenovo Slim 7x for 5 days now, no regrets. It's a pleasure, gorgeous HDR OLED screen, lightweight and no fan noise with minimal heat. Basically checks all the boxes I care about. Supports all my dev workload applications (.NET/Node/Python/Docker). For gaming I just use Moonlight, I've owned 7 ultrabooks, 0 of them for gaming. Never made sense to try to game on an ultrabook because you then make sacrifices to height, weight and battery life, then what's the point. I've probably got 4-5 applications that are non native, but all run fine under emulation. Just fyi Qualcomm just released new beta GPU drivers that improves speed and compatibility for games and video rendering and general performance.

@ErykDante

2 күн бұрын

Just curious: Why was Lenovo the best option for you out of the other brands? Is it because of OLED? Nothing against Lenovo, it's a good brand.

@Desilv

2 күн бұрын

How do you update the drivers ?

@niklas7816

2 күн бұрын

@@ErykDantegood display, dual fans and good cooling solution, great keyboards, the design is very sleek and lightweight and still comfortable with tapered edges, Lenovo support is world class (at least for business) and very sensible configurations and prices, especially for the 32 gig config.

@morries1234

2 күн бұрын

The surface pro oled PWM flicking just killed my eyes... This screen is not designed for long time working. I just returned and took the LCD version.

@TalynOne

2 күн бұрын

@@ErykDante The OLED screen is gorgeous. Well priced. Keyboard on Yoga Slim was praised. There was also a cheap 32GB upgrade option, which I bought. A possible negative (not for me) compared to other Snapdragon Elite options is no HDMI, SD Card or USB-A ports. I don't use any of those things and if I really need it I could get that functionality via a dongle. Actually I'm currently using a USB-C 2.5 gigabit ethernet adapter with USB-C power passthrough so I don't even give up a port when plugged into power.

Great review! Thx!

I had a couple of Surface products back when they first released and was impressed with their build quality. I've transitioned to the Apple ecosystem since then but if I hadn't the new Surface laptop would be a compelling option. Once they work the bugs out. Thanks for the honest comparison.

Amazing content as always.. Thanks kyle.

I would like to find just one reviewer who runs these tests on the boring stuff that most people do most of the time. We are not all content creators. How about running a mix of Office applications such as importing and manipulating large data sets in Excel, and say browsing and keeping 20 tabs open, and see how long the two last against each other? Everybreviewer want to show us Lightroom and Games, and I don’t do either. I’d just like a windows machine that performs well vs an Air in these mundane daily work tasks.

@jakejoyride

2 күн бұрын

true

@trellis1027

2 күн бұрын

100 tabs. Let's keep it real.

@subaramazing

2 күн бұрын

girl if u do the most basic shit why do u even have to worry about which is better clearly you have a bias too so just go with that 😂

@Quicksilver-7791

Күн бұрын

Not to be rude but what you're asking for can be done by my tablet, or a 5 year old laptop. I suppose it could be interesting in terms of battery life but for that you already have the other comparisons

@richardbeaumont7960

22 сағат бұрын

@@Quicksilver-7791 yes fair enough point. These things are not hard for any pc to do although large data sets can slow one down if its RAM is insufficient. My point really boils down to whether these ARM machines are going to be true all day devices. No lugging the charger to work. Something I don’t need with my Mac M2.

the ARM subsystem on windows needs serious work.. the emulator needs to be more efficent

I just don't think Widows running ARM will be very popular until they support descrete GPUs and game developers start making AAA game titles for it. Gaming is what really has pushed the PC advances in the last 20 years or so. Most Windows users aren't going to want to buy an expensive Windows laptop that has terrible GPU performance.

Good video. Blender & DiVinci runs like crap on these ARM based Microsoft laptops. They'll need some firmware and software updates to fix those issues. At the end of the day, it appears that in single core test the Surface loses, and in multi core test the Surface wins. The future looks good for these ARM based laptops.

@Kevynmorgan

2 күн бұрын

very this.. i needs serious work.. windows needs to take this more seriously

@williamcopeland2617

2 күн бұрын

@@Kevynmorgan It just released brotha, give it some time.

Transitioned from a Lenovo Legion 5 Pro to a Macbook Pro 16” M1 Max last month, and holy smokes the difference is night and day - I don’t game so the M1 Max is perfect for me. Battery life is 1000% better and so is fan nose (absolutely nonexistent on the Mac). Only thing is it took me a couple weeks to get used to the Mac quirks but once I did, I can say I was very happy with my purchase

@patozarantonello8572

Күн бұрын

Yeah same , i am borrowing a friends m1 mac pro,i love the mini(just in the m1 model) and 4k screen, how well is build, no fan noise and the batery last ages, its just so good that am searching for the windows laptop equivalent lmaoo

I'd love to buy a Surface Lpatop or so many reasons. The touchscreen, the move to ARM, the 3:2 aspect ratio with a 120hz refresh rate, WiFi 7, etc. However, i cannot trust Microsoft to truly support the transition to ARM, nor do I trust them to make an experience that iis as cohesive as Apple's offering.

@williamcopeland2617

2 күн бұрын

Well, buy the Surface Pro 9 or Surface Laptop 6 and you'll be fully satisfied. It'll run everything single program and game that's available unlike Apple or any ARM based computer. Problem solved.

@dechubasco830

2 күн бұрын

Same, I am gonna wait at least 1 year to see if the software's I use get supported on windows ARM, other than that, these laptops look awesome.

@Papa.G

Күн бұрын

And upgradeable SSD

I have been a Macbook user for some time... From time to time i have tried different Windows laptops but always ended returning those... However this time things seems to be different. Finally Windows laptop which is fast, silent, great build quality, beatiful screen (Windows hello + no notch).. So actually just sold my M3 Air and i'm going to keep Surface Laptop. All the critical apps that i'm using are ARM native (Unity (beta), Visual Studio, Office, Affinity, Spotify, Slack etc.. ). Only little disapointment is GPU performance BUT this is not for gaming anyway... Good job Microsoft.

It's crazy; I sometimes forget I'm not watching a multi-million sub tech channel when watching this one. There are only a few channels whose videos I watch immediately, LTT, Snazzy Labs, Marques of course, Dave Lee, Jarrod's Tech, Matt Moniz, Mrwhosetheboss, Max Tech, Just Josh (another smallish but growing channel), and this one (I also think Mark Linsangan, whose channel is also small, is outstanding). That really says something about the quality of videos you produce, KE. Keep up the great work man. I'll be with you as your channel grows and grows. I just hope you're not pulled out of youtube for some high paying creative job somewhere. I know you will have that option...it's just that selfishly I hope you stay or at least keep producing content here. Have a great night man.

How long do these videos take to produce?

Appreciate your real world insights into ARM performance within the Microsoft world. As someone who is a business user of web applications, email, and Office apps, it seems that both Apple and MS platforms are more than adequate to the tasks at hand. Most of computational "heft" that I require lies in cloud based applications delivered through the browser. Thus, I am inclined to focus on keyboard, screen, and overall build quality as criteria for a replacement to my travel notebook (Surface Pro 6), Do you agree or am I missing something?

I just bought a M3 MBA 15" and it's my first Mac, I would've loved to have waited to get a X-Elite surface laptop but I'm not keen on the early adoption problems that come with first generation devices, and for the same price I could have gotten a 16GB/512GB X-Elite, instead of my 8GB/512GB MBA which I wouldn't mind... that and the amount of paid software you need to have a good experience on Macs is insane, I still might get a X-Elite Surface just for something to play with sometimes, although its GPU performance gives me second thoughts, not that I do GPU intensive tasks but it's unusual for them to match and exceed apple silicon but be so far behind in the GPU, I've not doubt the next iteration will be better, but with apples event coming up and the M4 coming to the MBP and maybe even M4 PRO/MAX/ULTRA I think the X-Elites extra performance in multi-score is about to be taken, I get a feeling snapdragon will always be behind Apple.

@asrp4284

2 күн бұрын

Just wondering why you ended up getting the laptop with only 8gb unified memory

@grizfan93

2 күн бұрын

how so? There are plenty of free utilities to help address some of the Mac's shortcomings in window management, for example. You may need to keep looking for the free options. And even the paid options are quite affordable, most under $10 USD

@trellis1027

2 күн бұрын

I suggest that you neither spend more on laptops nor obsess about comparative performance benchmarks. Enjoy your new computer. Live your life.

@MorganJoe

2 күн бұрын

@@asrp4284 I got it because I'm basically just using it like an iPad, so I don't need power-user multitasking levels of Ram so I couldn't justify the extra cost for Ram but I was able to justify getting extra storage, that and I have a top spec Desktop windows computer, so I'm never going to use this for intense tasks. this is for being present in the room with my partner and kids instead of sat at my desk.

@MorganJoe

2 күн бұрын

@@grizfan93 there are free utilities, but a majority of decent software costs money, like bartender, middle click apps...etc. there may be free versions but they definitely involve a sketchier install and won't receive the same level of updating. and I never said they aren't affordable, but £2.99 here, £6.99 here, £25 here add up quickly.

Kyle, have you tried to use any of these laptops to edit photos in Lr on a 4K monitor? Is development mode smooth at such resolution?

Thanks Kyle, this is nice. I think it would also be interesting to see performance differences of windows 11 running virtually on Mac M3 Air vs Windows running natively on Surface.

Question, off topic but I bought a case kit for my MacBook, and it came it a screen protector and a keyboard cover. Should I use them? I heard that they both can damage the laptop

I noticed you use Fusion360. Can you share how is it with the Emulation Layer?

Apple's battery percentage is a total scam. It goes down super slow until it hits like 35-40%, and then it just drops like crazy. So, when you see Windows laptops losing battery fast, it's because their battery percentage decreases at a steady rate. But on a MacBook, it's like super slow at first and then speeds up later. I've seen a bunch of battery tests, and the Elite lasts way longer. And it's not just MacBooks, all Apple devices do this. Even my iPad does the same thing.

@s-trapYT

2 күн бұрын

I could edit photos in Lightroom on M2 Air for nearly an hour before it dropped from 100% to 99%. This doesn't bother me, but skews comparisons.

Whats the name of the app you sue to see the gpu/ram etc on your Macbook air?

Do you have a similar comparison for Qualcom vs Intel Core Ultra?

I wish reviewers would say the Davinci Resolve ARM version they're using is in Beta and it's also silly to be comparing it to the MacOS version which isn't.

Never buy 1st gen, especially with tech. I waited till the M3 pro to make the jump, truly amazed. Love it! Don't miss Windows at all!

@AlphaWitcher

21 сағат бұрын

If nobody buys 1st gen they'll just cancel 2nd gen. It makes no sense.

What are the wallpapers?

All I need is Linux with working HW acceleration on the new chip.

Great review from a quality perspective. As far as technical content is concerned, I don't think it is fair to compare video rendering, 3D capability, etc. Snapdragon is simply not for that (this year). The same applies to emulated comparisons (however that was more unbiased). Thank you! :)

@AlphaWitcher

21 сағат бұрын

Yeah video editing, thats only 1% usecase

My Surface Laptop 7 with SD X Plus/512GB arrived the other day. Man it's good. As smooth as the M1 Air (haven't used M2/M3). Seems to me unless you Game or Video Edit (Adobe apps coming soon, DaVinci Resolve is in Beta) or use Google Drive these are now for everyone. Significant improvement over any Intel laptop I've used.

node is native on arm in windows so the problems were with the various libraries? I hope they are early bugs because these Linux arm machines will become interesting for developers

I want these wallpapersss..

Still waiting for my Surface Laptop 7 to be delivered, but my use case is the Phi-Silica model and the NPU, wherein I can optimize Hugging Face LLMs for that NPU and run them locally on the machine. That, and Microsoft's new SDK for making inferences from your own code. Don't care about games or video editing, it's all Copilot all the time for me, that and Visual Studio/Visual Studio Code.

As an average user, both are ok for me

Should I get the 13” or 15” MacBook Air?

I dont get it if surface can fit a 1080p web cam without a notch in that similar sized bezel,why cant apple do the same?

@hoefoods

2 күн бұрын

it’s not that they can’t. it’s a design decision. that notch design on their older iphones and newer macbooks is iconic and synonymous to apple whether people think it looks dumb or not. unlike the iphones, however, there’s no excuse for it existing on Macbooks because on the iPhone it was used for the camera and FaceID modules-but it exists on the Macbooks as functionless space and it’s a annoying but it also isn’t a dealbreaker. just one of those apple-isms.

If being "58% faster" than the baseline product of a competitor also means having tons of app compatability issues and half the graphical capability, then it's not exactly the flex that Qualcomm and Microsoft think it is

Wish they would've made an oled screen version of the laptop.

Pretty impressive since this is the year snapdragon, and windows are pushing ARM. I am still gonna wait 1 year before I dive into windows ARM.

Usually I dont comment but honest review about the product

As a creative I've moved to Apple ecosystem and won't go back to Windows laptop for one main reason... WINDOWS

@licenciadoleopoldocanoloza1144

2 күн бұрын

I find iOS and MacOs horrendous. If other people don't I guess is a preference thing

@evgeniizaets9243

Күн бұрын

Been using macos for 3 years now. but i still like windows much more

@AlphaWitcher

21 сағат бұрын

But I can't move to apple because of lack of good games

I wonder how responsive Windows on ARM is compared to a low-powered AMD or Intel system. Because with multiple high-res external monitors and many programs open, Windows 11 gets less and less responsive over time: you see some delays when opening file explorer windows, or even when navigating between windows using the task view (Win + Tab). This behavior might be different on ARM systems depending on how well Windows is optimized for ARM.

I want a Surface Laptop Go with that Qualcomm chip. 12 inch is the best size for me

What is better 14” macbook pro m3 pro or the surface laptop 7

@toqeermirza3812

2 күн бұрын

Easy bro macbook

False clicks while scrolling seems to be a recurring theme in reviews for this model. Hopefully thats something they can fix with a firmware update for the trackpad

Purchased my 14” M1 MP and it’s such a great computer but watching this video in search of a different computer outside of Apple’s ecosystem that could be comparable but the more I search the more I find that Apple truly is very hard to beat, running on battery that is

I'm excited for the improvements from past windows laptops. I have applications required for doing my job that only work on Windows, so I'm excited to see these improvements. Looks like it's not quite as good as I was hoping, but it does seem like a number of areas where it doesn't quite beat the MacBook, are things that I don't think with affect me too much. I've heard from multiple people that they thought MacBooks had the best touchpad around, but now that the Surface Laptop 7 is out, they actually like it more. I'm not holding my breath, but hoping more apps with support ARM quickly. Apple has an obvious advantage there.

so, in summary, while showing potential, the Surface is an unfinished product, actually all notebooks with the Snapdragon X Elite ARM CPU.

I was trying to figure out why node build is so slow, it looks like you're building it on an NTFS partition, which seems to be very slow (like 5x slower than native) with WSL 2. Could you move the build to the ext4 partition WSL2 uses and see how that improves things?

@user-vd8ys2nz6x

2 күн бұрын

Exactly. I would like to know how is the performance in the WSL file system and then we could compare the two systems.

Arm for Arm 🗿.

Both have great hardware but at the end of the day the software matters.

Watching the video on my mac air 15 m2, this laptop does not seem tempting at all, but yeah patiently waiting for lunar lake for versatile use case, but my mac has always been the best productivity machine.

The Surface will use more battery when using software that isn't optimized for the surface. which is basically every app you tested here in your video. When the apps are fully optimized the performance will be better across the board. I believe it was basically mentioned by app developers like adobe that they are working on arm base versions. So these early test are not true evaluations of these devices. But aye i guess you have to put something out. I have the surface pro 11 and no there isn't anything holding me back. I cloud game so games not being optimized yet doesn't bother me.

Concerned the ARM laptops may not reach critical mass in the market - we’ve seen this before - but this time they need it to compete with Apple. Apple has the lead here. I think WiFi 7 will be more important - I’m getting 2 Gbs service soon and will switch to 7 at that time and WiFi 7 routers are coming down in price with one already at $300.

You've built Nodejs on Windows in the /mnt/c/Users directory. That's not a native filesystem for WSL. No wonder it took so long. You should have built in the /home/your-user directory instead.

We have to see both allocation in Maine applications to understand the power, but in my opinion, I think that m3 is stronger and more powerful than surface

ngl i doubt this was made for the professionals tbh. like yeah they might have showcased professional workflows but only professional people watch these keynotes and events so maybe thats why. this machine sounds fantastic for someone like my parents who only care about using a browser and maybe document and excel sorta thing. but anything serious and i guess a X86 pc or a macbook, looks like the best way. for now

Optimization & Support are key points here. Microsoft has a long way to go. Apple Silicon for now.

why not see if ?the new UNIFIED_memory config it's going to be faster,if u need tha maxCPU/GPU for more video encoding is not this year

That's why, if you shoot first, you shoot twice. Doing excelent in the first try like apple and 4 years later would be difficult to get the same polish, I hope would be soon but apple it's years ahead (literally).

Would still get a Mac over the surface any day and I was a windows user for over 20 years what changed was windows 11 very unstable and not to the performance I really wanted the MacBook Air gave me a stable OS and the best battery life yes you will pay for it but I think it still over preforms in my view.

Mac will get free updates up to 6 or 7 years. That only makes Mac the better choice. Unless someone has no Mac at all.

2:39 "The Trackpads are both haptic touchpads with no physical movement" are you SURE about that on the macbook's end?

@expert8665

2 күн бұрын

Yea, the track pad doesn't move. It gives feedback via a motor

@tino768

2 күн бұрын

@@expert8665 That blows my mind, it feels like it's moving. My brother, who thinks he knows thing or 2 about computers told me the same thing then HE started to wonder and went back to check when I told him I didn't believe him.

Yutubers always test video editing tools because they are all editors. So their experiences may vastly differ from general users. Suppose if an architect is youtuber he would only show architect apps alongside video editing tools on his video because he have to edit videos to upload on KZread. So i think there's always missing of full story on KZread laptop reviews.

I have an idea. Remove Windows and put Linux and try again. Would love to see the difference with actual Linux on Windows with Arm..

Wait, MacBook Air has a 60 hz screen?? 1200+ dollar device in 2024 with 60hz? Come on, man 🤦‍♂️

@andyH_England

2 күн бұрын

There are a few Windows machines with 60Hz, including X Elite. They target battery life.

@ErykDante

2 күн бұрын

We see high refresh rate more on gaming laptops. But they should include them more in the normal laptops, just like this Surface.

@TamasKiss-yk4st

2 күн бұрын

And you still watching KZread videos in 2024, which is limited to 60fps? 😂 Do you know that if the content only provide 60 different frames in every sec, you only need to refresh the clscreen 60 times in each sec right? (And that is exactly the 60Hz..) Because a few manufacturer want to raise their price, and put the more expensive parts inside, it's doesn't mean you need it.. you only miss the more frames once you started to use it, similar to drogs, if you never tried, you are not missing it.. and just for the more frames while you arw scrolling it's a joke.. until the contents are still limited to 60fps, the 60Hz is still fine.. (and even Google laughing on you, they sellig you the 120Hz displays for 7 years, but still limiting the KZread content to 60fps..)

@AlphaWitcher

21 сағат бұрын

​@@TamasKiss-yk4stonce you use 120-165hz, you never wanna go back. Sadly

No it can't. And the M3 Macbook Air can't beat the CoPilot +. Why? One is OSX and the other is Windows. I think these comparisons are getting really old. If you need Windows or OSX, then the other one isn't an alternative. I you prefer the UX of one over the other, then the other isn't an alternative. Which means that for the user the comparison is almost irrelevant.

I think these arm chips are overhyped, look at the price, its already like luxury product on 1st generation. What's the point? This arm tech is not accessible to mass currently at this price. I would prefer x86 still at this stage.

i bought the Asus first but it had a few hardware issue's so i changed it for the Lenovo yoga with 1 tb hdd and 32 gig of ram and its awesome for everyday use however i still have my macbook pro max 2

@MrTechSyndrome

2 күн бұрын

Where did you the 32gb Lenovo? Doesnt seem to available on the website in the US

Unfortunately, the Surface runs Windows, so it’s bond by the limitations of such platform, such as the very poor updates Microsoft has been doing to Windows since 2014. Speaking of which, how *bound* is WoA in terms of customisation? You can change the msstyle theme, and install customisability apps (e.g. ExplorerPatcher) to make stuff on Windows at least bearable to use?

These software comparison are so dumb… Apple still struggling with games 4 generation after and people saying stuff about a 1 month old processor 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️😂😂

thank you, i hate that notch. will never buy another macbook as long as it is there.

@kenny_dlc

2 күн бұрын

What a lame reason to boycott an otherwise-best-in-class overall product

@gdotone1

2 күн бұрын

design sells right?

after checking out ur channel i trust microsoft more than u

ARM on windows is like using a Mac - half your software doesn't work!

Why they keep comparing snapdragon elite to last year base mchip

@asrp4284

2 күн бұрын

maybe because that is the most recent iteration of the macbook air, which is a direct competitor to this computer

@TamasKiss-yk4st

2 күн бұрын

Because even in that way is a harassment in a lot of times, imagine if Apple use more than just 4 power cores (basic M have only 4 power cores) against the 12 power cores in X Elite (note that even the M1 Ultra only had 16 power cores, but they need almost the same just to compete the basic chip..) And for those who come with the "but it's about in the same price range" those should check the iPad Pro M4 price first.. so if they are in about the same price range they are competitors right..?

@vision2003

Күн бұрын

Because there's no MacBook with this year's chip? 😂

@leeuwerik2

Күн бұрын

By the raw power Intel/AMD. X86 chips don’t have problem with performance. And it can be paired with dedicated GPU. Problem is power consumption, heat issues and noise. Intel/AMD x86 cannot field same quality as M processors - performance, low power consumption, low noise. Those ARM Snapdragon chips should allow it. M4 is now on iPad running iPadOS thats completely different philosophy in those two systems. iPad OS is hybrid (and Im here quite generous to iPadOS) between MacOS and Iphone OS.

i need that wallpaper from your macbook's screen please 3:34 ! how can I find it ?

The Windows Laptop World has Apple to thank...again...for the "gains" that will be realized using ARM-based processors. Apple Silicon has moved the ball downfield...again. The real "problem" with Window, though ...is Windows

It's very beautiful but unfortunately it comes with a lot of adware and spyware. Micro$oft sucks.

To this date there is no real competition with apple’s MacBook, apple has made a beast

@Papa.G

Күн бұрын

With only 2 apps that it can run... 😂

Doesn’t run half the programs . It’s influencers lying to people

@christianr.5868

2 күн бұрын

@@woofiooxx neither does the MacBook 💻

@woofiooxx

2 күн бұрын

@@christianr.5868 if you actually check you’ll know why I said that . Don’t be ignorant kid

@christianr.5868

2 күн бұрын

@@woofiooxx things will get ironed out on the snapdragon. MacBooks still have compatibility issues. They should be neck and neck relatively soon

@hal5919

2 күн бұрын

​@@christianr.5868 I think he meant to say neither of them are good

@christianr.5868

2 күн бұрын

@@hal5919 depends on what you need really

The launch seems to be rushed. M1 launch was much better executed in typical Apple style, M1, while older, was a lot more up-to-date cosnidering the time and the competition. The CPU on the SD X is basically top tier while the GPU is so further behind that it is actually worse than their SD 8 series. the SD 8 has things like RT while the SD X doesn't even have that. The GPU performance is very similar to M1/M2 GPUs which is not great considering the age. M3 offers much better GPU performance while being very close in CPU performance. M4 has similar CPU performance and much, much better GPU performance than the SD X. Edit: There are sources that claim hadrware-accelerated RT exists on the SD X Elite SoC. So the explanation to why it performs poorly might be because they used an older version of their ray tracing GPUs from the SD 8 series.

@chrism869

2 күн бұрын

all though the amd arm cpu i think will have even better gpu performance than the other arm chipslike intel and snapdragon and this one perfroms better in geekbench by the results

@williamcopeland2617

2 күн бұрын

That's not true. There were so many programs that did not work when the M1 released brotha. Come on now! You are aware that the GPU in the Surface Laptop is a 3.8tf GPU, right? Devs have to start utilizing it and optimizing their apps for it.

@m.a3914

2 күн бұрын

@@williamcopeland2617 There were but the emulation software worked better. Not to mention that the SD X is a chip, designed to work in ultrabooks which are primarily used for regular workloads and productivity work. The encoders and decoders in the M1 are far superior in the SD X. I'm not aware in what workload is the SD X GPU rated at 3.8 Ttflops. The performance is about the same as in the non-binned M1 chip which has 4-year-old GPU inside. Not exactly impressive.

@m.a3914

2 күн бұрын

@@chrism869 Well, we have to see how would that play out. It is still early days. Qualcomm has excellent GPUs! The Adreno architecture came a long long way. Seeing how bad the GPU inside the SD X is very underwhelming. The good thing is that we know for fact that the GPU was rushed. It lacks features like RT which Qualcomm had for 2 generations inside their SD 8 series chips for smartphones.

@christianr.5868

2 күн бұрын

The X elite does have hardware RT

It's strange that the usual rules do not apply for Macs versus Snapdragon Windows. Macbooks will be better at gaming and have more native apps. It is close in performance in CPU apps, though, depending on your pro-app usage. However, efficiency on intensive tasks is significantly better on Macs, and on casual PC use, they are close. The GPU is subpar, but hopefully, drivers will close the enormous gap. But then, if you factor in that, we could get an MB Pro 14 M3 Pro for around $300 more than the Surface Laptop ARM, which not only easily beats the Surface on most performance tasks but also is a better laptop (speakers, miniLED, ports, etc) with no downsides now for compatibility, you have to ask yourself why you would choose the Surface Laptop other than a bias for Windows even if it is not nearly as good? The natural monopoly of Windows due to Stockholm Syndrom-like consumer and business mindset really surprises me. It is rough to judge the X Elite on Gen 1 as it is clearly lacking in too many regards. Gen 2 will be the make-or-break, assuming the M4, Intel, and AMD do not stretch too far clear in the coming months.

@TamasKiss-yk4st

2 күн бұрын

And even the $300 extra on Mac is not a wasted money, since you get yearly free major OS updates (which cost extra money on Windows, because that is a new named version..), also the Mac keep the price better, so when you buy a new one later, you get back more (just check the 4 years old M1 price, it's still 70% of the original price, so you can sell your old Mac on about 60% price, which means you only spent $400 on the $999 M1 Macbook at the end in the past 4 years..)

💀M1 laptop from 4 years hold up to this. For 1600$ it better be 10x better than M3 atleast

This is seemingly yet another example of how macs just work and windows laptops generally have enough hicups to make them frustrating to use

The problem with Snapdragon PCs and Apple has a name: Windows.

@GoogleDoesEvil

2 күн бұрын

You buy a Surface over a MacBook because you prefer Windows. This is nothing new.

@FenrirKi

2 күн бұрын

@@GoogleDoesEvil I know but Windows can’t compete with macOS or linux in terms of optimization. It will be interesting seeing the performance and battery of Snapdragon X on Linux.

@GoogleDoesEvil

2 күн бұрын

@@FenrirKi That's really funny you think that, Windows has been lighter than most Linux distros in my experience.

@asianstud7

2 күн бұрын

​@@GoogleDoesEvilwell said.

@albertomartin70

2 күн бұрын

What you cant do and do in MAC you do in Windows, what you cant do and do in Linux you can do it in Windows.

1st Erixson to Erickson

Microsoft laptops, have always been under powered and ridiculously overpriced. I want what their smoking. That said, this is the mid range xelite variant, the highest variant is the xe1-84-100 and only Samsung uses that variant for their laptops, but they too have gone nuts, charging MacBook pro with the m3 pro chip prices, that's insane. Apple gets away with it because their laptops are not only powerful, but the build quality is second to none. What's also odd, the xe1-84-100 variant has an almost 6 teraflops Gpu and insane clock speeds, theoretically perform at the same level as the gpu in the m3 pro's with the 14 core gpu. But it can barely get out of its own way.

Co-Toilet 🤣

Window 11 is the problem for that laptop.

@williamcopeland2617

2 күн бұрын

What's wrong with W11?

@ErykDante

2 күн бұрын

@@williamcopeland2617 I guess some people to just comment a random statement without explanation, thinking they contributed somehow.

@miserj

2 күн бұрын

Can't wait until Linux gets running on these 😊

That notch on the MacBook is so fugly. Eww.

4th

If you have the guts, then compare it with Lenovo. ❤‍🔥

Macbook all the way🙏🏻

mac is better

@frivis3000

2 күн бұрын

yep, I got macbook m3 air for about a month and it is so good I just can't compare it with any windows laptop

@chrism869

2 күн бұрын

@@frivis3000 there are windows laptops that can compare to macs

@Mango_777

2 күн бұрын

Mac will always be better quality I hate feeling cheap laptops

@chrism869

2 күн бұрын

@Mango_777 windows laptops aren't cheap feeling tho,especially these new surface laptops,they feel quite premium

@ErykDante

2 күн бұрын

@@Mango_777 It sound like you haven't even touched the Surface laptop.

It’s actually very simple. Does a laptop come with Windows as standard? Then it will never be user friendly. Several Linux distros as well as MacOS are the best OS’s. Both in user friendliness as in security. This on itself makes that the Surface loses. Don’t even need to test it!

@GierlangBhaktiPutra

2 күн бұрын

Agree.. if only industry standard proprietary software is also available natively on Linux, people would switch easily to Linux because of its user friendliness.

@williamcopeland2617

2 күн бұрын

Well, Worldwide Market Share say something totally different. LOL....

@ErykDante

2 күн бұрын

It's not as simple as you make it sound. In the end it's personal preference. MacOS and Windows have their own strengts and weaknesses in terms of user friendliness. But Linux is straight up a headache, so I don't know where that claim comes from. Using Linux is basically fixing things most of the time or getting things to work instead of picking it up and working on it. Linux distro's are created for very specific use cases, that's why there are so many of them. While Windows and MacOS are just a jack of all trades.

@jase1125

2 күн бұрын

I use both MacOS and Windows. Both have benefits and advantages over one another. Example MacOS window management is horrible compared to Windows. Like 1990’s horrible.

@GierlangBhaktiPutra

2 күн бұрын

@@jase1125 well, I could agree on this. I do miss windows snapping on Windows. Switching between apps in MacOS is also a bit inconvenient (stage manager helps a bit).

A Mac is the best.

"its really difficult to see the difference between these 2 displays" Are you blind?

@TamasKiss-yk4st

2 күн бұрын

Or you just don't know how the effects what help you to see the content better change the color balance.. they are edited videos, not a raw videos with the same looks what you see in reality.. and different displays have different reactions to modifications..

Windows is still a joke