Superman & Steel vs Henry Miller - Superman & Lois 3x09 | Arrowverse Scenes
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@dionysisnance4204 Жыл бұрын
I'm on steel side that man came for him i would have put that Supervillians down without a second thought
@lieutenantt.2145
Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY!!!!
@AurianWarriorOfDarkness
Жыл бұрын
Facts its one thing if your being the attacker but dude literally dropped in on him at home and he was nearly jumped by his goons in his town superman wouldnt be saying all that hyprocritcal nonsense if the army or mannihiems people dropped in on his fortress or the Kent farm only reason he talking BULL cause hasnt happen to him
@AurianWarriorOfDarkness
Жыл бұрын
Dont get me wrong I Love superman but sometimes the writing makes him sound a like a dick and i get his conflict is the cancer so he is a bit bias and conflicted
@MarkGuerrero-cz9bh
Жыл бұрын
@@AurianWarriorOfDarkness He hasnt had that happen with mannihiem but it did pretty much happen when he found out Tal was his brother remember army a kryptonians flying against the sun set going in their direction one of the biggest oh fuck moments of the first season
@JVIT_TV
Жыл бұрын
Agreed! Not to mention the fact that Steel is not an indestructible alien like Superman. He was attacked by a powered person in his own home, and Henry Miller was coming after him. It would have been irresponsible not to take that swing. Henry Miller knew there would be consequences to his actions, he just didn’t expect to lose the fight.
@jasonschmucker Жыл бұрын
"If he dies... he can never make it right. If he dies, *this* is the best he will ever be. Saving him is how we save the world." -Superman, when asked why he spares his enemies
@danieldickson8591
Жыл бұрын
That's the kind of man you want to have the power of Superman. The kind of man you can trust with it.
@blacky8987
Жыл бұрын
an thats why they always come back and kill more people.
@justahumanwithamask4089
Жыл бұрын
Also the reason why lex always manages to fuck over superman
@mrj4082
Жыл бұрын
JHI: If he dies, he dies
@Pongus_420
Жыл бұрын
Goated quote and goated comment
@ericmiller1987 Жыл бұрын
He was wrong. He’s not nothing without the suit. On his earth, he was a soldier; that gives him tactics. He built the suit and designed and built the hammer, too. Just like Batman and Lex Luthor, his intellect is his greatest strength.
@icc2010
Жыл бұрын
“If youre nothing without the suit then you shouldnt have it”
@StanvilleBrown
Жыл бұрын
Facts!
@temahbacallero5019
Жыл бұрын
@@icc2010I mean, John did pretty well here using just the hammer.
@blacky8987
Жыл бұрын
facts everyone can tall big when they got super power but ma man john fight like a real brave man.
@micahfranklin4560
Жыл бұрын
John should’ve had an ELT just in case
@agnikaineverdies7646 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know why John Henry is getting vilified, that guy was trying to kill him and may have succeeded if he didn’t have his hammer, it was self defense plus Miller was going to die anyway
@horinum Жыл бұрын
Read that title as Superman & Steel vs Ezra Miller and got hyped for a sec there
@mohammedafzal4343
Жыл бұрын
Lol 😂
@GenericName0042
4 ай бұрын
Honestly at this point, it would take Superman to stop them.
@MarkGuerrero-cz9bh Жыл бұрын
got to wonder how far this tension will go. It can easily be argued JHI had good reason to do it, but it is also pretty plain to see his judgement is being a bit clouded and he is coming undone. He is beginning to act like The Stranger again
@hahahaha147
Жыл бұрын
Are you watching the same show? He was going to kill John. It's been multiple attempts on his life by the same group of people. He had every right to raid Brunos apartment. Bruno and his wife are cold blooded killers. John Henry's actions are 100% justified.
@hmetv8619
Жыл бұрын
Kinda want to see the stranger again
@micahfranklin4560
Жыл бұрын
And it’s screwing up his relationship with his daughter
@blacky8987
Жыл бұрын
@@micahfranklin4560 bruh you need help i see you in all the coments doing th same shlt we get it you dont like him. but he is right he is just a human he cant act like superman.
@danieldickson8591 Жыл бұрын
Miller was lucky Superman always holds back against his opponents at first. It's clear Miller didn't even seriously hurt him. If Miller was still standing when Clark returned, he wouldn't have been for long.
@DaniielPineda Жыл бұрын
These fights are amazing. Same as the one on the first episode. I wish it was against a more iconic Superman villain
@Jtbiga Жыл бұрын
Man this show is SO GREAT! I mean within 2 episodes John Henry got; Beat up at the restaurant, almost killed by the mom, jumped at his car, and then almost killed by a super villain. I totally feel for the guy lol!
@shinyhaunter0576 Жыл бұрын
It’s gonna be hella awkward for John to walk around smallville now that the town has seen what he does/can do.
@blacky8987
Жыл бұрын
he is not a super hero bruh. he dot have a secret shlt.
@shinyhaunter0576
Жыл бұрын
@@blacky8987 considering people saw him kill a guy in front of them and also beat Bruno’s henchmen earlier, it’ll probably have people looking at him very differently than before.
@breezy3392 Жыл бұрын
John Henry's life and his child have been repeatedly threatened. Go for the kill
@christopherantonyjacob4794
Жыл бұрын
Yeah like what he supposed to do he is a human without armour against a superpowered guy and he jumping on him he had to deflect the attack or he would be dead
@StareachValcin
Жыл бұрын
Acting in self defense is one thing, but going for the kill is crossing the line.
@joshheralal8758
Жыл бұрын
John Henry knew what he was getting into. Besides, this is execution not self-defense
@micahfranklin4560
Жыл бұрын
@@StareachValcinExactly
@agnikaineverdies7646
Жыл бұрын
@@joshheralal8758 Miller was trying to kill him it was self defense
@amerejester3295 Жыл бұрын
This was self defense. What was he supposed to do? Besides, Miller was a dead man before. What’s to stop Mannheim from resurrecting him again to finish him off next time? If Mannheim knew who Superman was he would send mercenaries to his home the same way he sent them to attack John on the street. I wonder how calm Clark would be if that was to happen to him. It is easy for him to judge.
@jmdevon5117
Жыл бұрын
Lol! Didn't yall give clark a hard time with him taking the life of Zod in Man Of Steel when he snapped his neck despite he had threatened Clark's mother Lois and the entire planet?
@amerejester3295
Жыл бұрын
@@jmdevon5117 I didn’t give him a hard time. Plus, that’s a different version of Clark.
@joshheralal8758
Жыл бұрын
Clark would find anther way. It's ok to judge because he killed someone
@micahfranklin4560 Жыл бұрын
That fight was awesome
@DE028 Жыл бұрын
Superman be getting his but kicked way too much 😮 it’s almost like Supergirl getting her but kicked too much. Superman is one of the most powerful heroes ever I wish they would show more of the characters greatness.
@user-yz6yk4vt6q Жыл бұрын
Man the fight is really amazing!!!!!!!!!
@erosion271 Жыл бұрын
Is Superman & lois perfect? No. But for Superman fans it provides such a fix of Superman content week to week i can't help but love it
@robinabernathy2829 Жыл бұрын
"You're nothing without the suit" HE MADE THE DAMN THING. If it came from his mind the suit is OF him not the other way around. Miller is ANOTHER mans creation.
@robinabernathy2829 Жыл бұрын
When Miller bursts in it reminds me of that scene with the big dude in the black and white stripped shirt from "The Punisher".
@Ash-Winchester
Ай бұрын
The russian? His shirt was red and white, though, not black and white.
@Lazyguy143 Жыл бұрын
Yeah idk what the writers are on about with this one, that was self defense. Now dont get me wrong I'm against superheroes executing criminals especially if they could subdue them without lethal force. (That kind of judgement should be made in court) but john was backed into a corner with very little options. I'm just glad john doesn't seem to be in any real trouble for it.
@user-ld8lv5py7k Жыл бұрын
Iron man: if you are nothing without this suit then you shouldn’t have it
@lukeskywalker3720 Жыл бұрын
There was no choice in that situation. Superman saw it himself. Can’t always play the golden boy part. That guy had Kryptonian strength, was Henry supposed to just let him kill him instead?😂😂 Comon Supes!!
@StareachValcin
Жыл бұрын
It's still crossing the line. It's not a kill or be killed situation. John Henry Irons definitely had to defend himself, but that doesn't mean he had to go for the kill against Henry Miller.
@zyrellwilliams1281
Жыл бұрын
@Stareach Valcin stop dude people have their own opinions don't force yours on every one else 😠
@agnikaineverdies7646
Жыл бұрын
@@StareachValcin Henry miller was charging at him at full speed, he would have killed John had he not used the hammer
@BustaDG
Жыл бұрын
@@StareachValcin yes he did lmfao why are u in every comment justifying on why he didn’t have to kill Henry like dude Henry Miller was charging at John Henry full super speed he was legit about to get killed and Superman was a bit far away
@iang8169
Жыл бұрын
Please remember j.h s hammer isn't a star trek phaser with a stun setting and a kill setting ,so j.h can just use the stun setting . if atom man gets to j.h then he's dead so j.h HAS to use his hammer . how the neck is he supposed to know how hard to hit him with it , so that it will knock him out but not kill him . that's ridiculous . he's obviously just going to hit him as hard as he can .
@robinabernathy2829 Жыл бұрын
Miller seemed genuinely amused by the AI bot. Should have just let him play with it and bought time.
@mossgeorge2001 Жыл бұрын
03:45 John should have been like no you have a choice cause you have the power to make a choice. Different note next week on Superman and Lois, Superman and Lane talk about him needing back up and since John Henry is kind of a hot head, bring in Superboy, I know I know but it would be so funny,
@FinalGreymon4 ай бұрын
What a lot of people don't get is that John has been in 2 Wars, one against Humans and one against Kryptonians and on top of that, his Wife was Murdered and his Planet was destroyed, so he is LONG past caring about killing.
@coreaga84smallwood48 Жыл бұрын
John Henry killed the man who was trying to kill him but they saying he was wrong for defending himself 🤷🏾♂️ I never thought that vibe would make it in the superman show SMH
@micahfranklin4560
Жыл бұрын
Not by crossing the line
@coreaga84smallwood48
Жыл бұрын
@@micahfranklin4560 John is human and the dude trying to kill him has powers. He just knocked Superman to freaking outter space and John was left alone to defend himself against someone who wanted to kill him slowly. Sounds like to me he had no choice but to cross the line or get killed himself 🤷🏾♂️
@blacky8987
Жыл бұрын
@@micahfranklin4560 tha shlt about not crossing the line if for clowns with super powers john was a dead man if superman came late.
@Jordan-hl6nw4 ай бұрын
2:23-2:30-2:40-2:42-2:46 METALLO VS SUPERMAN 2:43 CHRIS:COME ON PLEASE PLEASE
@repepps2275 Жыл бұрын
that AI is not fast talking whatsoever 😭
@kaydenthabeast Жыл бұрын
0:55 reminded me of Ben 10 when his watch wouldn’t work at the moment
@StareachValcin Жыл бұрын
John Henry Irons definitely had to right to defend himself, but there are lines that can't be crossed as humans. I am not sure if this was a no choice scenario, but I do accept that this was a scenario where John was acting in self defense.
@AurianWarriorOfDarkness Жыл бұрын
I'm kind of confused Superman can hear everything from Metropolis to the Whole world and yet he cant pick up something going in his Own Town not even Jordan picked it up for the sake of the plot its like huh jordan has power either one of them should have picked up the distubance or helped out John in either instance
@mhboy3530
Жыл бұрын
If you watch supergirls, there is ep when the parent teach them to control and focus on things they want to listens. it is to prevent massive amount of sound that disorient them. But how will you expect superman to eavesdrop every single person in the world, so of course, He will know when there are large disturbance with a little storyplot.
@MarkGuerrero-cz9bh
Жыл бұрын
he can tune it out when he feels he needs to. During that talk with lois was clearly something he wanted to focus on
@IlTavo
Жыл бұрын
Jordan told Jonathan he was gonna go easy with his powers for a while. Since sups and him control this power when they decide to focus, it makes sense that at least Jordan didn't pick it up
@temahbacallero5019
Жыл бұрын
In Season 1 Clark explained that it's not just "hearing everything" at the same time, but treating each sound as a different frequency.
@BrianF-gd4wo Жыл бұрын
I'm a fan of DC TV show 🍿🍿
@robinabernathy2829 Жыл бұрын
Supes came off wrong here if you ask me. Steel isn't him. HE can be hurt. What the hell was he supposed to do. Wait to be killed or for Supes to get there in time to stop this powered up psycho from killing him.
@the-quiver Жыл бұрын
superman was wrong on this episode, that was total self defense, henry tried to jump on john and got killed, that's all
@jasondiend4248
Жыл бұрын
Superman isn't wrong from his perspective. To Superman he can handle Henry without much problem once he gauges how strong he is and how much he needs to use to take him down nonlethally. John Henry Irons here had no choice. Was it a mistake no was it worth it no someone still died. Superman would later be put into this situation with Doomsday. The point of no return a foe he has no choice but to try to put down lethally.
@coreynance3874 Жыл бұрын
yeah it's easy to say John shouldn't have killed Henry Miller and to Judge him and to be self righteous and morally superior when you're bulletproof have the strength of ten men unbreakable bones can run faster then a speeding bullet and you have superstrength and you can pick a guy up and throw him 30 feet isn't it kal-el.😀😀😀😀
@calebstephens60596 ай бұрын
Look i get why Superman doesn't kill people but he's not in John shoe's even if John didn't want to kill Henry he didn't have a choice one of them was going to die That's the one thing I don't like about Superman he's to merciful
@Mohamed_Amine Жыл бұрын
This season is not good like the first two seasons. Too much drama, focusing on side characters and no action. I hope this show doesn't continue on this way!
@southbridgeforestHOA Жыл бұрын
how would john henry know his hammer woud kill the guy anyways????
@Jordan-hl6nw4 ай бұрын
0:45-1:47-1:49-1:54
@kaydenthabeast Жыл бұрын
What else was steel supposed to do let him charge at him 😂🤔 that’s why I don’t like heroes like Superman cause there afraid to kill u have to do what u have to do sometimes
@matthoward6829 Жыл бұрын
Man this show really making Superman look weak…idk why they keep relying on giving ppl Superman powers over n over. Guessing there isn’t gonna be a season 4
@Young2k_18 Жыл бұрын
Where was Jordan ? he could have helped his Dad kick that dudes butt
@matthewk122 Жыл бұрын
Hope we see Lex and Jimmy Olsen in future epsiode
@clarkkent1680
Жыл бұрын
Jimmy Olsen we will not see,but Lex will appear at the end of the season
@micahfranklin4560
Жыл бұрын
@@clarkkent1680I thought he was going to appear in episode 10
@MarkGuerrero-cz9bh
Жыл бұрын
@@clarkkent1680 if we get Jimmy, hopefully they recast the role. Can still keep him black if they want, but dont get someone who looks like a model
@AlphaSqad45 Жыл бұрын
Steel did nothing wrong here, hes up against a superpowered individual, if that hit with the hammer had not ended him steel would be dead
@prod.bysnowdays5725
8 ай бұрын
he still killed him.
@AlphaSqad45
8 ай бұрын
@@prod.bysnowdays5725 witch is good
@King_Shark9510 күн бұрын
If Henry Miller attack me at my home I would be Aquaman How about you guys
@WamuChi Жыл бұрын
howcome henry miller survive superman punches but not john henry's hammer
@ashtonjackfannyАй бұрын
Superman said you always have a choice not if someone is actively trying to end you. John isn't invulnerable like you get TF out of here with that high and mighty judgemental bullshit
@dnameisbondjamesbond Жыл бұрын
When will Sups stop holding back?
@StareachValcin
Жыл бұрын
Superman can't afford to stop holding back.
@georgememafu5184 Жыл бұрын
what's the fuss....self defence....duh
@inchyokk Жыл бұрын
plot hole with the hammer. it gains kinetic energy the further the distance there fore the first blow shouldve been stronger than the 2nd yet a simple hammer swing killed him. Unless it keeps stores of kinetic energy from previous impact
@user-yz6yk4vt6q
Жыл бұрын
I thought the same
@user-yz6yk4vt6q
Жыл бұрын
But if you look closely, he hit him exactly at his head sooo henry might get killed
@gabrielacosta9470
Жыл бұрын
Ok so let me to the math for you Full speed flight + stored kinetic energy = certain death It was a combination of henry flying at that speed and johns hammer storing that kinetic energy after the first hit
@tiltedxfn3635
Жыл бұрын
Bro he was likely weaken from the first swing, then he literally flew at him and got nailed in the head.
@shadowspidey7327 Жыл бұрын
Okay well uh the guy was dead before right so no need to give John Henry to much crap on killing right just saying the guy was dead before so in a way he killed a zombie or something minus the eating brains
@theAnupamAnandoriginal2 ай бұрын
you shouldnt use attributes as new characters , in case you dont want u.s.a. to be remote controlled (i aint black nor a resident kf england despite being anglo and tanned
@seyumaiayami3536 Жыл бұрын
Okay, Mr keep it always cool Superman, he is human. You just knocked that dude into the pavement, car, and other stuff and say "there is a choice" when he uses his hammer. What stupid writing.
@repepps2275 Жыл бұрын
for the folks saying they wouldn’t have kill him you are full of cap. because i bet if someone came attacking u in ur home saying they going to make you suffer u would’ve done the same thing John did if you had the chance
@robinabernathy2829 Жыл бұрын
I cringed whe he said "you always have a choice". I would have said. YEAH bro. I do. Live or die. I chose to live.
@g3eneralz382
Жыл бұрын
Well, that’s Superman for you. The real Superman. The Superman that believes that taking a life is never an option. Not the broody alien god from the new movies
@whynot15484 ай бұрын
Typical cartoonishly oversimplified comic book moral logic.....heroes dont kill EVER! cuz..........reasons 🙄
@Goldtaker23 Жыл бұрын
Come on man why you always gotta let Supes lose a fight Miller should be no match for him
@zaQba Жыл бұрын
This season has less action and too much drama. I got excited when I finally can see some fight scenes.
@Imad-gk1gw
Жыл бұрын
Grow up
@zaQba
Жыл бұрын
No need to fret over it. This show is a superhero show you know. If I want to watch drama, I'd watch soap operas. I know the emotional aspects are important but damn, there are too much crying and slow talking this season and less fighting scenes. At least do it once an episode you know. Superman is still supermanning and stuff. Like Smallville. I enjoyed Smallville till the end. Somewhere in the middle of Superman and Lois, I was thinking this show is slowly turning into the Flash. Might drop it after this season. But I'll see how it goes first.
@zatchbell622
Жыл бұрын
@Red United Then how could you possibly know the season has been “poor”? Played yourself on this one buddy
@zatchbell622
Жыл бұрын
@@zaQba I would rather have properly written and directed dramatic scenes with good acting than a bunch of mindless destruction. Zack Snyder did that and look how things turned out for him.
@zaQba
Жыл бұрын
@@zatchbell622 I agree. but like the other person commented, there were too much boring stuff this season. I kept looking at phone most of the time, bored out of my mind, and I am no longer excited when a new episode came out. Unlike the previous seasons. So, like I said, they need balance like Smallville. Some episodes are emotional, but still keep the action alive. Not talk among themselves 80% of the episode for the whole season.
@odoroku950 Жыл бұрын
i hate superman character sometimes like i get his the good boy scout and he will always do the right thing and always choose the path thats difficult if it means saving someone's life or giving the villains a chance to redeem themselves. BUT not everyone is a SUPER that can tolerate a rocket to the face, like it just another tuesday. For a grown ass man his common sense is worst than a child and his naivety is what will get his fellow heroes killed.
@ryanalexander984
Жыл бұрын
That’s usually why he tells the other heroes to stay away from the fight. He’s the one that can take the hits. No reason for them to get hurt or possibly killed when they have someone who basically can’t be hurt.
@odoroku950
Жыл бұрын
@Ryan Alexander in that scenario I can understand. But if a villian had a advantage on superman or his "super friends" had was force a fight they couldn't avoid what then
@amarawinchester963 Жыл бұрын
This whole story with Lois being sick takes the whole fun out of a Superman show. People were saying MOS is dark…not really. This is way darker and depressing. Show turned into a nightmare and just a tool for writers to send messages
@oghenekevbeegume2443
Жыл бұрын
Wrong. The show is very very relatable. As much as we're watching superheroes, knowing they're dealing with everyday problems makes it feel.... More.... Like you and I. Being superman yet helpless in the face of his wife's sickness, teenage children issues, etc
@kwayneboy1524
Жыл бұрын
And what message is that exactly?
@qkik6240
Жыл бұрын
@@oghenekevbeegume244390% of season 3 is about lois with cancer💀🤣
@oghenekevbeegume2443
Жыл бұрын
@@qkik6240 which makes it more relatable considering that this is the reality of many persons today. A loved one battling with a terminal illness while the rest have to stay strong and not lose hope especially in the presence of that loved one
@jasondiend4248
Жыл бұрын
Man of steel used a darker tone because it wanted to sully Superman. Here it is used to weaken him. Something he can not do. He can't stop cancer. He is powerless to it. All his abilities and he is left a shell of a man as he watches his wife die. This is far more humanizing and far more believable situation. Is it dark no is depressing yes. It is the emotions it is trying to pull from you.
@robertnelson1743 Жыл бұрын
Again I see the hidden typical anti black male Hollywood writing in these scenes making look ineffective. Doing the racially bias angles he's taller then Tylor now I really the only black writer left the show. Plus notice how they write father daughter scenes she's very disrespectful just how they had written Black Lightening as well
@IvanMoncure
Жыл бұрын
They make Tyler look taller because he's Superman. He's canonically supposed to be six foot four, while Tyler in reality is like five foot ten. I think John Henry is one of the stronger, more competent, and more masculine characters on a show with a very feminine bent to it's character writing.
@BlackFlightNY
Жыл бұрын
Even defending his home from an assassination attempt he is somehow STILL in the wrong. Because being angry and black is somehow the equivalent of dropping a nuclear bomb. It’s a “superpower” that needs to be kept in check😂 He is supposed to see things Clark’s way, because Clark came to his rescue. But a Supervillian came to his HOME!
@Imad-gk1gw
Жыл бұрын
Where are you seeing this? Just watch the show for what it is. Must be exhausting bringing politics in everything
@IvanMoncure
Жыл бұрын
Remember that in this show Supervillains have come to Clark’s home and threatened his family before. Specifically Tal-Rho did it in the first season. Clark has certain lines that he never crosses which would just be unrealistic in our world. The audience is meant to empathize with John and understand why he made the decisions he did in spite of Clark’s upset. It’s meant to be morally complex and ambiguous, not to demonize anyone.
@neergcorp6320
Жыл бұрын
They did the same thing to the black character in Smallville
@ramakrishna54802 ай бұрын
Superman is selfish , he just want his concious be the weightless , he doesnt care how many people the bad guys kill , how come its not about the dead innocent people and always about the villians
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I'm on steel side that man came for him i would have put that Supervillians down without a second thought
@lieutenantt.2145
Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY!!!!
@AurianWarriorOfDarkness
Жыл бұрын
Facts its one thing if your being the attacker but dude literally dropped in on him at home and he was nearly jumped by his goons in his town superman wouldnt be saying all that hyprocritcal nonsense if the army or mannihiems people dropped in on his fortress or the Kent farm only reason he talking BULL cause hasnt happen to him
@AurianWarriorOfDarkness
Жыл бұрын
Dont get me wrong I Love superman but sometimes the writing makes him sound a like a dick and i get his conflict is the cancer so he is a bit bias and conflicted
@MarkGuerrero-cz9bh
Жыл бұрын
@@AurianWarriorOfDarkness He hasnt had that happen with mannihiem but it did pretty much happen when he found out Tal was his brother remember army a kryptonians flying against the sun set going in their direction one of the biggest oh fuck moments of the first season
@JVIT_TV
Жыл бұрын
Agreed! Not to mention the fact that Steel is not an indestructible alien like Superman. He was attacked by a powered person in his own home, and Henry Miller was coming after him. It would have been irresponsible not to take that swing. Henry Miller knew there would be consequences to his actions, he just didn’t expect to lose the fight.
"If he dies... he can never make it right. If he dies, *this* is the best he will ever be. Saving him is how we save the world." -Superman, when asked why he spares his enemies
@danieldickson8591
Жыл бұрын
That's the kind of man you want to have the power of Superman. The kind of man you can trust with it.
@blacky8987
Жыл бұрын
an thats why they always come back and kill more people.
@justahumanwithamask4089
Жыл бұрын
Also the reason why lex always manages to fuck over superman
@mrj4082
Жыл бұрын
JHI: If he dies, he dies
@Pongus_420
Жыл бұрын
Goated quote and goated comment
He was wrong. He’s not nothing without the suit. On his earth, he was a soldier; that gives him tactics. He built the suit and designed and built the hammer, too. Just like Batman and Lex Luthor, his intellect is his greatest strength.
@icc2010
Жыл бұрын
“If youre nothing without the suit then you shouldnt have it”
@StanvilleBrown
Жыл бұрын
Facts!
@temahbacallero5019
Жыл бұрын
@@icc2010I mean, John did pretty well here using just the hammer.
@blacky8987
Жыл бұрын
facts everyone can tall big when they got super power but ma man john fight like a real brave man.
@micahfranklin4560
Жыл бұрын
John should’ve had an ELT just in case
I don’t know why John Henry is getting vilified, that guy was trying to kill him and may have succeeded if he didn’t have his hammer, it was self defense plus Miller was going to die anyway
Read that title as Superman & Steel vs Ezra Miller and got hyped for a sec there
@mohammedafzal4343
Жыл бұрын
Lol 😂
@GenericName0042
4 ай бұрын
Honestly at this point, it would take Superman to stop them.
got to wonder how far this tension will go. It can easily be argued JHI had good reason to do it, but it is also pretty plain to see his judgement is being a bit clouded and he is coming undone. He is beginning to act like The Stranger again
@hahahaha147
Жыл бұрын
Are you watching the same show? He was going to kill John. It's been multiple attempts on his life by the same group of people. He had every right to raid Brunos apartment. Bruno and his wife are cold blooded killers. John Henry's actions are 100% justified.
@hmetv8619
Жыл бұрын
Kinda want to see the stranger again
@micahfranklin4560
Жыл бұрын
And it’s screwing up his relationship with his daughter
@blacky8987
Жыл бұрын
@@micahfranklin4560 bruh you need help i see you in all the coments doing th same shlt we get it you dont like him. but he is right he is just a human he cant act like superman.
Miller was lucky Superman always holds back against his opponents at first. It's clear Miller didn't even seriously hurt him. If Miller was still standing when Clark returned, he wouldn't have been for long.
These fights are amazing. Same as the one on the first episode. I wish it was against a more iconic Superman villain
Man this show is SO GREAT! I mean within 2 episodes John Henry got; Beat up at the restaurant, almost killed by the mom, jumped at his car, and then almost killed by a super villain. I totally feel for the guy lol!
It’s gonna be hella awkward for John to walk around smallville now that the town has seen what he does/can do.
@blacky8987
Жыл бұрын
he is not a super hero bruh. he dot have a secret shlt.
@shinyhaunter0576
Жыл бұрын
@@blacky8987 considering people saw him kill a guy in front of them and also beat Bruno’s henchmen earlier, it’ll probably have people looking at him very differently than before.
John Henry's life and his child have been repeatedly threatened. Go for the kill
@christopherantonyjacob4794
Жыл бұрын
Yeah like what he supposed to do he is a human without armour against a superpowered guy and he jumping on him he had to deflect the attack or he would be dead
@StareachValcin
Жыл бұрын
Acting in self defense is one thing, but going for the kill is crossing the line.
@joshheralal8758
Жыл бұрын
John Henry knew what he was getting into. Besides, this is execution not self-defense
@micahfranklin4560
Жыл бұрын
@@StareachValcinExactly
@agnikaineverdies7646
Жыл бұрын
@@joshheralal8758 Miller was trying to kill him it was self defense
This was self defense. What was he supposed to do? Besides, Miller was a dead man before. What’s to stop Mannheim from resurrecting him again to finish him off next time? If Mannheim knew who Superman was he would send mercenaries to his home the same way he sent them to attack John on the street. I wonder how calm Clark would be if that was to happen to him. It is easy for him to judge.
@jmdevon5117
Жыл бұрын
Lol! Didn't yall give clark a hard time with him taking the life of Zod in Man Of Steel when he snapped his neck despite he had threatened Clark's mother Lois and the entire planet?
@amerejester3295
Жыл бұрын
@@jmdevon5117 I didn’t give him a hard time. Plus, that’s a different version of Clark.
@joshheralal8758
Жыл бұрын
Clark would find anther way. It's ok to judge because he killed someone
That fight was awesome
Superman be getting his but kicked way too much 😮 it’s almost like Supergirl getting her but kicked too much. Superman is one of the most powerful heroes ever I wish they would show more of the characters greatness.
Man the fight is really amazing!!!!!!!!!
Is Superman & lois perfect? No. But for Superman fans it provides such a fix of Superman content week to week i can't help but love it
"You're nothing without the suit" HE MADE THE DAMN THING. If it came from his mind the suit is OF him not the other way around. Miller is ANOTHER mans creation.
When Miller bursts in it reminds me of that scene with the big dude in the black and white stripped shirt from "The Punisher".
@Ash-Winchester
Ай бұрын
The russian? His shirt was red and white, though, not black and white.
Yeah idk what the writers are on about with this one, that was self defense. Now dont get me wrong I'm against superheroes executing criminals especially if they could subdue them without lethal force. (That kind of judgement should be made in court) but john was backed into a corner with very little options. I'm just glad john doesn't seem to be in any real trouble for it.
Iron man: if you are nothing without this suit then you shouldn’t have it
There was no choice in that situation. Superman saw it himself. Can’t always play the golden boy part. That guy had Kryptonian strength, was Henry supposed to just let him kill him instead?😂😂 Comon Supes!!
@StareachValcin
Жыл бұрын
It's still crossing the line. It's not a kill or be killed situation. John Henry Irons definitely had to defend himself, but that doesn't mean he had to go for the kill against Henry Miller.
@zyrellwilliams1281
Жыл бұрын
@Stareach Valcin stop dude people have their own opinions don't force yours on every one else 😠
@agnikaineverdies7646
Жыл бұрын
@@StareachValcin Henry miller was charging at him at full speed, he would have killed John had he not used the hammer
@BustaDG
Жыл бұрын
@@StareachValcin yes he did lmfao why are u in every comment justifying on why he didn’t have to kill Henry like dude Henry Miller was charging at John Henry full super speed he was legit about to get killed and Superman was a bit far away
@iang8169
Жыл бұрын
Please remember j.h s hammer isn't a star trek phaser with a stun setting and a kill setting ,so j.h can just use the stun setting . if atom man gets to j.h then he's dead so j.h HAS to use his hammer . how the neck is he supposed to know how hard to hit him with it , so that it will knock him out but not kill him . that's ridiculous . he's obviously just going to hit him as hard as he can .
Miller seemed genuinely amused by the AI bot. Should have just let him play with it and bought time.
03:45 John should have been like no you have a choice cause you have the power to make a choice. Different note next week on Superman and Lois, Superman and Lane talk about him needing back up and since John Henry is kind of a hot head, bring in Superboy, I know I know but it would be so funny,
What a lot of people don't get is that John has been in 2 Wars, one against Humans and one against Kryptonians and on top of that, his Wife was Murdered and his Planet was destroyed, so he is LONG past caring about killing.
John Henry killed the man who was trying to kill him but they saying he was wrong for defending himself 🤷🏾♂️ I never thought that vibe would make it in the superman show SMH
@micahfranklin4560
Жыл бұрын
Not by crossing the line
@coreaga84smallwood48
Жыл бұрын
@@micahfranklin4560 John is human and the dude trying to kill him has powers. He just knocked Superman to freaking outter space and John was left alone to defend himself against someone who wanted to kill him slowly. Sounds like to me he had no choice but to cross the line or get killed himself 🤷🏾♂️
@blacky8987
Жыл бұрын
@@micahfranklin4560 tha shlt about not crossing the line if for clowns with super powers john was a dead man if superman came late.
2:23-2:30-2:40-2:42-2:46 METALLO VS SUPERMAN 2:43 CHRIS:COME ON PLEASE PLEASE
that AI is not fast talking whatsoever 😭
0:55 reminded me of Ben 10 when his watch wouldn’t work at the moment
John Henry Irons definitely had to right to defend himself, but there are lines that can't be crossed as humans. I am not sure if this was a no choice scenario, but I do accept that this was a scenario where John was acting in self defense.
I'm kind of confused Superman can hear everything from Metropolis to the Whole world and yet he cant pick up something going in his Own Town not even Jordan picked it up for the sake of the plot its like huh jordan has power either one of them should have picked up the distubance or helped out John in either instance
@mhboy3530
Жыл бұрын
If you watch supergirls, there is ep when the parent teach them to control and focus on things they want to listens. it is to prevent massive amount of sound that disorient them. But how will you expect superman to eavesdrop every single person in the world, so of course, He will know when there are large disturbance with a little storyplot.
@MarkGuerrero-cz9bh
Жыл бұрын
he can tune it out when he feels he needs to. During that talk with lois was clearly something he wanted to focus on
@IlTavo
Жыл бұрын
Jordan told Jonathan he was gonna go easy with his powers for a while. Since sups and him control this power when they decide to focus, it makes sense that at least Jordan didn't pick it up
@temahbacallero5019
Жыл бұрын
In Season 1 Clark explained that it's not just "hearing everything" at the same time, but treating each sound as a different frequency.
I'm a fan of DC TV show 🍿🍿
Supes came off wrong here if you ask me. Steel isn't him. HE can be hurt. What the hell was he supposed to do. Wait to be killed or for Supes to get there in time to stop this powered up psycho from killing him.
superman was wrong on this episode, that was total self defense, henry tried to jump on john and got killed, that's all
@jasondiend4248
Жыл бұрын
Superman isn't wrong from his perspective. To Superman he can handle Henry without much problem once he gauges how strong he is and how much he needs to use to take him down nonlethally. John Henry Irons here had no choice. Was it a mistake no was it worth it no someone still died. Superman would later be put into this situation with Doomsday. The point of no return a foe he has no choice but to try to put down lethally.
yeah it's easy to say John shouldn't have killed Henry Miller and to Judge him and to be self righteous and morally superior when you're bulletproof have the strength of ten men unbreakable bones can run faster then a speeding bullet and you have superstrength and you can pick a guy up and throw him 30 feet isn't it kal-el.😀😀😀😀
Look i get why Superman doesn't kill people but he's not in John shoe's even if John didn't want to kill Henry he didn't have a choice one of them was going to die That's the one thing I don't like about Superman he's to merciful
This season is not good like the first two seasons. Too much drama, focusing on side characters and no action. I hope this show doesn't continue on this way!
how would john henry know his hammer woud kill the guy anyways????
0:45-1:47-1:49-1:54
What else was steel supposed to do let him charge at him 😂🤔 that’s why I don’t like heroes like Superman cause there afraid to kill u have to do what u have to do sometimes
Man this show really making Superman look weak…idk why they keep relying on giving ppl Superman powers over n over. Guessing there isn’t gonna be a season 4
Where was Jordan ? he could have helped his Dad kick that dudes butt
Hope we see Lex and Jimmy Olsen in future epsiode
@clarkkent1680
Жыл бұрын
Jimmy Olsen we will not see,but Lex will appear at the end of the season
@micahfranklin4560
Жыл бұрын
@@clarkkent1680I thought he was going to appear in episode 10
@MarkGuerrero-cz9bh
Жыл бұрын
@@clarkkent1680 if we get Jimmy, hopefully they recast the role. Can still keep him black if they want, but dont get someone who looks like a model
Steel did nothing wrong here, hes up against a superpowered individual, if that hit with the hammer had not ended him steel would be dead
@prod.bysnowdays5725
8 ай бұрын
he still killed him.
@AlphaSqad45
8 ай бұрын
@@prod.bysnowdays5725 witch is good
If Henry Miller attack me at my home I would be Aquaman How about you guys
howcome henry miller survive superman punches but not john henry's hammer
Superman said you always have a choice not if someone is actively trying to end you. John isn't invulnerable like you get TF out of here with that high and mighty judgemental bullshit
When will Sups stop holding back?
@StareachValcin
Жыл бұрын
Superman can't afford to stop holding back.
what's the fuss....self defence....duh
plot hole with the hammer. it gains kinetic energy the further the distance there fore the first blow shouldve been stronger than the 2nd yet a simple hammer swing killed him. Unless it keeps stores of kinetic energy from previous impact
@user-yz6yk4vt6q
Жыл бұрын
I thought the same
@user-yz6yk4vt6q
Жыл бұрын
But if you look closely, he hit him exactly at his head sooo henry might get killed
@gabrielacosta9470
Жыл бұрын
Ok so let me to the math for you Full speed flight + stored kinetic energy = certain death It was a combination of henry flying at that speed and johns hammer storing that kinetic energy after the first hit
@tiltedxfn3635
Жыл бұрын
Bro he was likely weaken from the first swing, then he literally flew at him and got nailed in the head.
Okay well uh the guy was dead before right so no need to give John Henry to much crap on killing right just saying the guy was dead before so in a way he killed a zombie or something minus the eating brains
you shouldnt use attributes as new characters , in case you dont want u.s.a. to be remote controlled (i aint black nor a resident kf england despite being anglo and tanned
Okay, Mr keep it always cool Superman, he is human. You just knocked that dude into the pavement, car, and other stuff and say "there is a choice" when he uses his hammer. What stupid writing.
for the folks saying they wouldn’t have kill him you are full of cap. because i bet if someone came attacking u in ur home saying they going to make you suffer u would’ve done the same thing John did if you had the chance
I cringed whe he said "you always have a choice". I would have said. YEAH bro. I do. Live or die. I chose to live.
@g3eneralz382
Жыл бұрын
Well, that’s Superman for you. The real Superman. The Superman that believes that taking a life is never an option. Not the broody alien god from the new movies
Typical cartoonishly oversimplified comic book moral logic.....heroes dont kill EVER! cuz..........reasons 🙄
Come on man why you always gotta let Supes lose a fight Miller should be no match for him
This season has less action and too much drama. I got excited when I finally can see some fight scenes.
@Imad-gk1gw
Жыл бұрын
Grow up
@zaQba
Жыл бұрын
No need to fret over it. This show is a superhero show you know. If I want to watch drama, I'd watch soap operas. I know the emotional aspects are important but damn, there are too much crying and slow talking this season and less fighting scenes. At least do it once an episode you know. Superman is still supermanning and stuff. Like Smallville. I enjoyed Smallville till the end. Somewhere in the middle of Superman and Lois, I was thinking this show is slowly turning into the Flash. Might drop it after this season. But I'll see how it goes first.
@zatchbell622
Жыл бұрын
@Red United Then how could you possibly know the season has been “poor”? Played yourself on this one buddy
@zatchbell622
Жыл бұрын
@@zaQba I would rather have properly written and directed dramatic scenes with good acting than a bunch of mindless destruction. Zack Snyder did that and look how things turned out for him.
@zaQba
Жыл бұрын
@@zatchbell622 I agree. but like the other person commented, there were too much boring stuff this season. I kept looking at phone most of the time, bored out of my mind, and I am no longer excited when a new episode came out. Unlike the previous seasons. So, like I said, they need balance like Smallville. Some episodes are emotional, but still keep the action alive. Not talk among themselves 80% of the episode for the whole season.
i hate superman character sometimes like i get his the good boy scout and he will always do the right thing and always choose the path thats difficult if it means saving someone's life or giving the villains a chance to redeem themselves. BUT not everyone is a SUPER that can tolerate a rocket to the face, like it just another tuesday. For a grown ass man his common sense is worst than a child and his naivety is what will get his fellow heroes killed.
@ryanalexander984
Жыл бұрын
That’s usually why he tells the other heroes to stay away from the fight. He’s the one that can take the hits. No reason for them to get hurt or possibly killed when they have someone who basically can’t be hurt.
@odoroku950
Жыл бұрын
@Ryan Alexander in that scenario I can understand. But if a villian had a advantage on superman or his "super friends" had was force a fight they couldn't avoid what then
This whole story with Lois being sick takes the whole fun out of a Superman show. People were saying MOS is dark…not really. This is way darker and depressing. Show turned into a nightmare and just a tool for writers to send messages
@oghenekevbeegume2443
Жыл бұрын
Wrong. The show is very very relatable. As much as we're watching superheroes, knowing they're dealing with everyday problems makes it feel.... More.... Like you and I. Being superman yet helpless in the face of his wife's sickness, teenage children issues, etc
@kwayneboy1524
Жыл бұрын
And what message is that exactly?
@qkik6240
Жыл бұрын
@@oghenekevbeegume244390% of season 3 is about lois with cancer💀🤣
@oghenekevbeegume2443
Жыл бұрын
@@qkik6240 which makes it more relatable considering that this is the reality of many persons today. A loved one battling with a terminal illness while the rest have to stay strong and not lose hope especially in the presence of that loved one
@jasondiend4248
Жыл бұрын
Man of steel used a darker tone because it wanted to sully Superman. Here it is used to weaken him. Something he can not do. He can't stop cancer. He is powerless to it. All his abilities and he is left a shell of a man as he watches his wife die. This is far more humanizing and far more believable situation. Is it dark no is depressing yes. It is the emotions it is trying to pull from you.
Again I see the hidden typical anti black male Hollywood writing in these scenes making look ineffective. Doing the racially bias angles he's taller then Tylor now I really the only black writer left the show. Plus notice how they write father daughter scenes she's very disrespectful just how they had written Black Lightening as well
@IvanMoncure
Жыл бұрын
They make Tyler look taller because he's Superman. He's canonically supposed to be six foot four, while Tyler in reality is like five foot ten. I think John Henry is one of the stronger, more competent, and more masculine characters on a show with a very feminine bent to it's character writing.
@BlackFlightNY
Жыл бұрын
Even defending his home from an assassination attempt he is somehow STILL in the wrong. Because being angry and black is somehow the equivalent of dropping a nuclear bomb. It’s a “superpower” that needs to be kept in check😂 He is supposed to see things Clark’s way, because Clark came to his rescue. But a Supervillian came to his HOME!
@Imad-gk1gw
Жыл бұрын
Where are you seeing this? Just watch the show for what it is. Must be exhausting bringing politics in everything
@IvanMoncure
Жыл бұрын
Remember that in this show Supervillains have come to Clark’s home and threatened his family before. Specifically Tal-Rho did it in the first season. Clark has certain lines that he never crosses which would just be unrealistic in our world. The audience is meant to empathize with John and understand why he made the decisions he did in spite of Clark’s upset. It’s meant to be morally complex and ambiguous, not to demonize anyone.
@neergcorp6320
Жыл бұрын
They did the same thing to the black character in Smallville
Superman is selfish , he just want his concious be the weightless , he doesnt care how many people the bad guys kill , how come its not about the dead innocent people and always about the villians