Holy cow buy accident I was able to show an expert reloader something new. But to tell the truth you have taught me more than you will ever know. Thanks !!!

A nice quick system. I used your advise on this two weeks ago when I started casting my 7.62 x 39. I triple lube those bullets but my .357 I use alox and a small amount of mineral spirits. I still pan lube all my led bullets as well.

just started using this method and have used it on 5 different calibres and it works awesome !!! Thank you !!!

@FortuneCookie45LC

7 жыл бұрын

frank szabo - Yes, it certainly does work well. Powder coating is also a good way to go, but the 45/45/10 is still the fastest way to lube a whole lot of bullets . It's the reason Country Boy Prepper really likes the 45/45/10 as his family shoots CAS together and lots of bullets are needed. Good shootin' to ya, FC

Thanks for the mention FortuneCookie45LC and you are right no fuss and a lot like mixing epoxy. I found if I put to much in the jar to much is wasted on the sides of the jar and have been able to tumble extra bullets with out adding any more solution to the jar. And the best part is no issues with leading.

Thanks LC for help with the Lee sizing kit.

Was at a garage sale and saw the mineral spirits and a can of paste wax on a table and first thing that came to mind was fortune's 45-45-10. Bought them of course!!! Thanks FC 45 !!

Just did about 250 bullets. Must’ve went a lil heavy on the paste wax but at least they’re lubed. Thanks FC45LC, we appreciate all the advice.

Hey man. Yes once coated you put it on a tray and bake at 400 for 10 min. I was shooting the bayou bullets mostly because the place they are made is about 15 min from the house where they are made. You can now even buy there coating but we started doing this with our 300 blk 150 and 240 cast bullets. I pushed then as fast as I could in a 06 to test the coating and stood up.

I have just tried this recipe and I will never go back to Lee liquid Alox alone, never ever. This worked so well on the 40 and 45, I forgot to size my 38 bullets before lubing them up. I used an empty 1 lb powder bottle and rolled it around the garage, worked great too. Cheers

@FortuneCookie45LC

9 жыл бұрын

ruststar I've gone to rolling the jug also - sure beats the mid-air in the hands thing...The nice thing about the 45/45/10 is the speed and ease. Plus good performance when we shoot the bullets, and the loaded ammo looks and feels so much better than when we use LLA alone... Good shootin' to ya

It wouldn't be my preferece, but I have been having a hard time finding an affordable spire point 30 cal mold. I opted to get the 160 grain Lee mold meant for 7.62x39. In straight linotype, it drops bullets like a dream, which weigh 155 grains and are perfectly round and .312" exactly. I was hoping they would smaller than stated, but I am pleased with how easy the mold is to use. This is the first rifle mold for the polycoat system, and I will be sharing my results.

Vengenace Early- Thanks again for your great comments...Pan lubing is something I can't warm myself up to do..lol. I know lots of you out there getting good results and lots of videos on pan lubing, but it's not for me. I insist upon volume production, and pan lubing can't get me there. But the final goal we all share is good shootin' (means accuracy, consistency and no leadin'), and if you like pan lube - BAM go for it- Good shootin' to ya....

Jason Reeves - Thanks for the good word - fast, easy, economical, effective, beautiful - Hard to beat shooting these for total cost of 5-6 cents a complete loaded round…Best Regards..

HammergHank100-Great question. No, any cast bullet can be lubed with this system, and it works very well for leading control and accuracy. The tumble lube designs do have an advantage though in that they tend to drop out of the cast at the diameter we want, whereas other molds tend to cast a bit larger. But my favorite molds cast at proper diameters, and we do have the choice to send molds back to Lee if they cast too large. And we can adjust cast size by +or- .001 with alloy also.

commonsensehomestead-Shawn-great question - the plain JPW is fine for lower than standard loads of any caliber-I still do that also. The 45/45/10 came into being because of 1) plain tumble with LLA was messy, sticky, tacky, and ugly 2) plain JPW was slick and greasy (that's what makes it work, after all) - and the 45/45/10 solved those - You could argue that this system is good for all bullet-applicable handgun cast bullet lubing - see2

If I can make time soon, I'll do a video using my laptop of the coating process, but it will take longer to put in the load development and range time to prove results. Thanks for a good chat as always, sir.

This is great! Best system ever! Cast bullets look cleaner. Thanks for sharing.

@FortuneCookie45LC

7 жыл бұрын

Jack Torrance - Now it would be good to include powder coating our cast bullets as another alternative to traditional lubing of which the 45/45/10 is an excellent variant. Good shooting' to ya, FC

@jacktorrance7639

7 жыл бұрын

My next project will be powder coating my cast bullets. It actually looks neat. can't wait! it will be a fun project. will keep you posted. thanks.

@FortuneCookie45LC

7 жыл бұрын

Jack Torrance - The best start would be to get some Harbor Freight Red powder coat..easily best of all HF poeders for good results... Good shootin' to ya..!! FC

I made my first batch of cast bullets this weekend. I made about 25 each 45ACP (Lee TL452-230-2R) and 357 Semi-wad cutter (Lee C358-158 SWC). I lubed them with the 45/45/10 and it was a delight. I made too much and put in a little too much paint thinner, but when they dried they are well lubed and not very sticky at all. I saved the extra for next time and see how that works out. Thanks for the info.

@FortuneCookie45LC

7 жыл бұрын

Rick LeClair - Congrats on your castings...and yes, 45/45/10 will work well for you... Good shootin' to ya, FC

I use this on my powder coated bullets and it's amazing... no gunpowder reaction/interaction with the powder coating and just a nice bit of extra lube.

Thanks a bunch great video I'll try that Happy Holidays

@FortuneCookie45LC

9 жыл бұрын

80sman69 The 45/45/10 system is the best for pistol shooting... Have a great day!!

So I tried this system and let the bullets dry for 24 hours. And the bullets aren't a sticky at all any more! I used to use straight liquid alox and the bullets were sticky and the alox gor all over everything. With this system I can roll the bullet in. My fingers and nothing gets on them! Awesome idea thanks for all the help!

@FortuneCookie45LC

10 жыл бұрын

Patmclean232 - Wish I was the one that developed it, but no…the system was developed by Recluse, and we all are very thankful indeed for the reasons you have found - plus, the lube does a great job for our pistol bullets…Best to ya...

GunFun ZS- So that's the guy we owe thanks to for this fine system… Thanks, that's good to know…lubing, sizing, lubing sounds like a derivation from the LLA recommendation - But if I've got to run them through a sizer, then I might as well lube there with my RCBS while I'm at it, so the real advantage is when bullets do not need to be sized, then we are in blitz business with 45/45/10. That is sweet indeed…Best Regards...

Patrick Floyd-The LLA works fine-but I never liked 1) the mess 2) the final sticky tacky 3) the appearance. Thanks to this guy Recluse, we have this system that solves all of the above nicely while still giving us the good performance…I do suggest it with full confidence. What little leading I've gotten, just cleans without trouble. Good shootin' to ya...

very nice system sir thanks for sharing

boddyxpolitic-JPW available at Home Depot and is an industry standard for waxing floors. Haven't tried any other wax in this 45/45/10 system. Thanks for your questions.

when I go shooting up in the mountains I use a empty cheese ball container for all the brass and shotgun shells.

Reloader762-Sounds like you have some good systems of your own- I've never used the Rance Dog system, and though I've heard of White label products, never got around to using them - sounds good though. And there's always the old Rooster Lube no longer available - too bad…Please keep in touch as your comments are definitely helpful to those who read the comments and they are quite a few…Best Regards

Great video as always

Some of us don't have (or want) $180 sizing machines. 45/45/10 can accomplish the same thing faster, and with less smoke using a cheap lee sizer. Obviously a mold that drops the desired size is preferable, but it also gives options. For instance, I can cast .312 bullets and size them down a little to use for 30/06, without having to buy another mold.

Great video. Gonna try this myself. I've used LLA but not this 45/45/10 method. I think the tumble, size, tumble method mentioned below was referencing the Lee nose first push through sizer. That's how I did my LLA bullets in the past but it's messy and sticky. Thanks for the great videos.

@FortuneCookie45LC

10 жыл бұрын

452Rob-The beauty of the 45/45/10 is that you have all the benefits of LLA without the stickiness, mess and bad appearance of the rounds afterwards. Your lead bullets will have a neat slickish patina, and effective against leading. Yes, you can tumble 45/45/10 - then size - then tumble again - one caution though, you probably already do this - either LLA or 45/45/10 - do it in a ventilated area, fumes…Happy Holidays...

Patrick Floyd- addendum reply - it is by volume, and eyeballing is all you need to do, equal parts of LLA and JPW and eyeball 1/10 of that volume with MS. And there is less smoke than when we shoot with grooves full of grease. Quick, easy and effective - hard not to like this system…Thanks for your fine question...

Love it. Thought I'd be needing another $100 piece of equipment but all I need is another jar of nuts.

@FortuneCookie45LC

9 жыл бұрын

hokanut - The beauty of the 45/45/10 system is that it does not require precision mixing - just eyeball. Plus, if you feel a little more need of lubrication (like for rifle shooting, just tweak your mix a little heavier on the alox, lighter on the JPW, and a little lighter on the mineral spirits (paint thinner, engine degreaser)). The system is easy and foolproof and not sticky. Plus, very economical - a Lee tube of Liquid Alox (LLA), a can of Johnson's Paste Wax from Home Depot, some paint thinner. Or you can buy the stuff either a la carte or ready made from White Label Lubes at www.lsstuff.com/ And you can't beat it for speed - plus no leading, looks and feels great... Once you do this, you will want to do all your cast bullets this way...Why even think about powder coating and all that mess. I just did some cast bullet videos featuring 45/45/10 also. Best to ya

hagenoft-No tacky or sticky after drying, and guns clean up without extra work. For handgun shooting, it is practically ideal…I do this system whenever feasible and am very happy with it. Best Regards...

The guy who developed this system, Recluse, suggests doing two light coats and sizing between if sizing is needed.

GunFun ZS- I never considered doing that, because all my .311 - .312 guns have been shot with cheap surplus ammo over all these years…But now with supply problems, might just have to take you up on that. My 30/30 mold doesn't cast them that big, so I'll have to get another mold if I want to cast for 7.62x54R…Best Regards...

gun nut-Thanks for your recommendation of the HLZ to your friends. Sounds like you have a pretty good shooting community over there at your range as well. Good shootin' to you...

Cool vid I have told all the guys and gals at the gun club and range to check you out I'll have to try that mix its similar to what I use :)

LC, I'm gonna try this for my lubricant, 45 45 10. and. see how it does. I saved jugs. got enough now

chevy6299-Spot on with all these comments (like the pun?). Thanks for steering me onto this. I've heard of this system, but never got around to trying it until your urging. Would have saved a lot of time over the years if I had tried it before…Best Regards...

Jon-It's a LOT quicker. If the bullet casts at the right diameter, this is the best way to lube, hands down!! Good shootin' to ya...

commonsensehomestead-rely3-However, you might be referring to sorting as in quality control. When I dry quenched cast bullets, I look them over and cull out any reject bullets. When I lube or size bullets, rejects are culled out. And whenever bullets are tumbled in JPW or 45/45/10, I spot any surviving rejects and cull them out. I almost never get to my reloading presses with reject bullets. So sorting for QC is part of other procedures and not a separate procedure-No Extra Work FC45LC policy

O.k., have a great day and thanks for the answer, agw.

Lawschool has takes most of my time, so it will not happen soon. I made time the weekend my video camera was stolen, so that puts me off. I did cast aproximately 20 lbs of those 155 grain pure linotype bullets, which I plan to powdercoat, then test with trailboss, then some IMR 4350 I have. the bullets "cut" with a #F art pencil which means they are 15-18 BHN. Lee's formula suggests optimum load is 35-39 grains of 4350 for 2000-2150 FPS. If I could get the hardness up to 20 BHN then ~ 2250 FPS

Recently switched over from pan lube to 45-45-10 and have to say,no easier or more convenient method. Thanks FortuneCookie45LC for this method and much good shooting to you in 2022.

After 2 years of Powder coating I make some experiments with Alox and wax and damn..with my Glock34 and the Lee TC 120 gn bullets at 1'010 FPS was great. The most important thing was add the right amount of lynotipe and water quenching the bullets. Some smoke, but no leading and very fast method to lube. Thanks FC45

@FortuneCookie45LC

6 жыл бұрын

lamiabanca - You've got your balance of bullet hardness and lubrication system dialed in just fine....continued good shootin' to ya, FC Steve

@lamiabanca

6 жыл бұрын

FortuneCookie45LC thanks master

@lamiabanca

6 жыл бұрын

Steve, if I give the 45-45-10 to some bullets and put it in a hermetic container, there's a time before the lube lost the property?

GunFun ZS- I'll be very interested in seeing how your coating and bullet results...

Really nice. Easier than Recluse's cook method. Wonder if at this point, the MS are really needed? I'm about to try a similar mix, using other protective waxy oil brand and other floor wax brand, since LLA is pretty rare/expensive here and I can get 2 gallons of the other stuff for the price of a 4oz bottle. As for wax, JPW is not available here anywhere, going to use some old style paraffin/carnauba/solvent floor wax that's pretty common 😬👍

wo0dzm3n-wow-almost missed your comment as didn't show up in inbox. Any kind of coating that let's us shoot rifle velocities without jackets or leading is AOK with me. But I'm still hesitant to do it myself if there is oven baking involved. And for pistol shooting, the system has to be as fast to do as the effective systems we have now. Right now, I'd be inclined to buy commercially coated bullets for my rifle shooting as I don't shoot anywhere the volumn of ammo there as with my pistols.Regards

Thanks for the video. Does the lube eventually build up in the seating die and mar the depth adjustment?

As always FC45LC, Thanks for the thoughtful reply, I'll let you know hoe it works out for me.

just did my first batch ever. Think i may have used a little to much mineral spirits as it seemed a little watery to me. However, this being the first batch of bullets I ever lubed it could be perfect for all I know lol.

Hi, I'm new to casting and I love your videos. My questions are 1. will the 45/45/10 method be fine for bullets speeds 2000+fps question 2. Do I put the gas check on before or after lubing. Thanks so much.

thank you for the advice.David is my older brother I'm Darrell.

@FortuneCookie45LC

7 жыл бұрын

Darrell Baxter - Thanks for posting comment, Darrell - and a great day to ya..!! FC

Steve, great video. I have to give this formula a try. I am still doing your old recipe of just jpw. I like it except it is thick and greasy. Those bullets look great once done and they still looked relatively clean. I do have a question that you touched on here. What is your easy way sorting your bullets. I have one cavity on my mold that throws a little big. A lot of times I just don't fill it, but what is your suggestion to separate out of the group for sizing?

Yeah, I'll just stick with the 45-45-10 formula for now, thanks!:)

It's a good idea to make it last, $10.99 today on Amazon!

What kind of mold did you use to get that size that good ?

Instead of waiting for a few days, black in oven at 100c or 212f for 30 minutes. Will come out dry even with straight Alox.

Can you lube this way after powder coating? Or is it not needed after PC? Thanks for all the reloading instruction and information.

Hi FortuneCookie45LC, as always great video. Question, do you have to use a bullet that was designed for tumble lubing? Thanks, Hank

I have some that was premixed back in 2015, Anyway it has hardened overtime. Can it be rejuvenated by adding mineral spirits ?

Will the Spray-on engine de-greaser work?

Did you still size them? I will be testing this method for sure!

Can anyone tell me if Minwax paste wax can be used in substitution of the Johnsons? I assume they're probably pretty similar.

Steve, do you buy the snacks & nuts, just to get the containers ?

In Europe we cant find Johnson wax, what is replacemant for that??

what is this fluid liquid that you used in the formula? thinner? kerosene?

Question.....I have used this formula on some 158 grain .38 caliber lead cast rounds....do I need to pan lube the bullets prior to loading them or are they good to go with only this lube.....I have bought some commercial cast bullets that have wax on the gas rings.....thanks!

How does this mix benefit compared to Lee liquid alox alone?

does this take the place of powder coating??

What are the bullets like after they have dried? are they sticky or tacky? And does it leave a mess in your barrel?

How will it hold up with Pyrodex or Trip 7? With BP, you have to use SPG no matter what. But all BP on hand is now reserved for flinters, so it's pyrodx in the trapdoors and sharps, etc.

Hi FC45LC, Is it 45% by volume or weight? I'm guessing you're using volume I just want to make sure before I try it. I've only recently gotten leading under control using Alox by its self, but if I can save even more money cutting the Alox with cheap wax and solvent I'll give it a try, especially if you suggest it.

One long squirt (10%) lol rock on bro!

Can I size them like normal?

Do I have to use a hard paste wax for the mix? Or can I use Simoniz liquid carnuba wax. I’m in Northern Ireland, and we can’t get your brand of paste wax here. I can get Simoniz hard paste wax, but I was just wondering, as it’s getting thinned out anyway. Can I not just use a liquid wax to start with🤷🏻‍♂️

Dear FortuneCookie45LC, If using Lee dies and reloading cast bullets using the 45/45/10 lube, is there any lube buildup taking place in the Lee dies? If so, how and how often do the dies need cleaning?

wo0dzm3n-Last time I checked Bayou Bullets to buy some, they were 6 weeks backordered. So I decided to wait since I have quite a few 30 cal cast bullets to shoot in my 30/30 and 308. You've got a good system and good bullets there, I'm just not ready to do any baking on my own - but I might change my mind if I buy some of these and really like 'em.

Could these bullets be sized after the 45 45 10 is dried?

percentages are by weight or volume?

FortuneCookie45LC - Newbie question... why the mix and not alox alone?

I have been powder coating and it works but it takes a lot of time and effort. I have never tried anything else. I want to try your 45/45/10 system. I have always re-sized using my Lee Re-sizing dies I have (I have quite a collection) I feel Resistance on the bullets as they go through the dies. My question is can I do this to the bullets twice? I think I need to continue re-sizing and I need to do something to lube before I re-size. Or would it be OK if I just used some Dillon case lube to size them and then do the 45/45/10 system. Would the Dillon case lube from the re-sizing mess up the 45/45/10 lube? Thank You for all your videos I have learned a lot from you!

@FortuneCookie45LC

8 жыл бұрын

+Delbert McCord -- Wow, there are a lot of traditional bullet lubers like myself who have gravitated into doing powder coating, but now we are running into casters that are doing powder coating before they ever get into doing any traditional lubing. So here is the sequence - say you are shooting 9mm and your gun likes the usual .355" bullets. That means that your cast bullets need to be .356-.357" for best results. If your bullets cast at that, even if they are not perfectly round (does not matter to accuracy within reason of course), you will not have to size them. If you then do the 45/45/10 - just tumble lube, dry overnight and load 'em. If your bullets are too big and bulge your cases, you will have to size them. Then the recommendation is to 45/45/10 tumble the bullets first, let them dry overnight, then run them thru the Lee sizer. Then tumble lube the bullets again, dry overnight before loading them. Each tumble cycle takes a total of 10-12 minutes of actual applied time so it is fast and easy to do... Less work and time than powder coating, but as you know, if your oven is big enough, you can process more bullets per unit of time... Best Regards to ya, FC

I just Mix JPW and Alox 50%-50% works fine

Are your percentages by weight or volume?

chevy6299-Addendum reply - Thanks for the compliment, but I consider myself a practical experienced reloader. The experts are the benchrest boys - when they shoot a 1/2 MOA 10 shot group, it's a bad day at the range. When you talk to them, they are referencing .001" case shoulder setbacks and 20 step bore conditioning procedures...Takes them a full week to load 20 rounds of perfectly tuned ammo. And they speak a language we practical experienced guys don't understand...Have a great day..

How long do you tumble them for?

Hi, been using pure LEE alox with good result, but I'm going to try this system to save a few bucks(real tightwad here). looks like it lubes a little easier with the added stuff. Thanks for the vid

@FortuneCookie45LC

9 жыл бұрын

James K - not only that, the 45/45/10 works just as well without the sticky tacky dirty of using plain LLA. Plus, it looks much better. Good reloadin' to ya...Happy Holidays

@thetobaccoguy1751

9 жыл бұрын

Just a tip from a fellow tightwad. I recently found that you can get Lee Liquid Alox, without the Lee brand name for dirt cheap. Less than $18 shipped for a huge 32 oz. jug! Just google Liquid X-lox or White Label lube from LsStuff. I just received my first jug and it is absolutely identical to the Lee product. I can't understand why more people aren't talking about it.

@FortuneCookie45LC

9 жыл бұрын

Hans S. Thanks for the tip. And the folks at White Label are real good to do business with. They have multiple products of great interest to reloaders and bullet casters - even premixed 45/45/10. You are right, we should talk about them more. Have a great day

@thetobaccoguy1751

9 жыл бұрын

FortuneCookie45LC I agree. From the small bit of experience I've had with them, they have a very small town America feel to them. They even offer free samples of lube sticks and such. They seem like really great people.

@larrrs3

7 ай бұрын

Is the 45/45/10 by weight or volume?

commonsensehomestead-reply2-I have the same problem with my 6 cav 429-200 Lee mold - one cavity throws large bullets - .434" so I don't fill that cavity. Should have returned that mold to Lee for replacement-still might do that even though used that mold quite a bit. You should not have to sort bullets by casting size - if you even feel that you have to - that mold goes back to Lee pronto- that is extra work and not in any FC45LC policies. see3...

Hey man I've talked to u before ab casting. Have u ever thought ab powder coating. I'm using a tumble method to apply. I can run up to 3000fps no leading or gas checks. Found out ab it on 300blktalk. It's under hand loading. I can do ab 6000 for 5$

45 45 10 by volume or weight?

Hey FC! So after you are doing this for a pretty while, I want to ask you some questions which came up to me, if you would be so kind? I´ve read, that TL bullets mess up semi automatic pistols. They said, that it could happen that the TLB cause malfunctions, especially in cold weather conditions. What is your experience in this? What would you say after this time to accuracy between sized and not sized TLBs, is there a difference or not? And is there a way to size the bullets after being seated by crimping? What I mean: Is there a crimp die on the market where you can downsize your tld bullets in the case? Response would be great. Have a nice day, Ouw.

@FortuneCookie45LC

10 жыл бұрын

Ouwkackemann- There are lots of shooters who cast TL bullets for their 9, 40, and 45 auto pistols. Lee sells a lot of those molds. I read a lot of reviews of happy casters. I've found TL bullets to shoot every bit as accurate as non-TL designs…if TL molds cast bullets too large, I'd send it back to Lee or Midway (if that is where it was bought) as sizing TL bullets can be frustrating. No, you should not entertain sizing bullets after they are loaded - messes up the neck tension. The Lee Factory Crimp Die is designed to correct bulges and irregularities caused by crimping, not wholesale oversized bullets already seated (minor oversized will be corrected though). Best Regards

Steve, have you, ever tried Rooster Jacket waterproof film? I've been thinking of getting some? Thanks

@FortuneCookie45LC

8 жыл бұрын

+DON C - Great question, DON..!! Rooster Lube was discontinued for a while - glad to see it's back...No, I haven't used any of that because my 45/45/10 is so good and economical. But those that have used it like it more than dislike it...Hard to find anyone not liking the 45/45/10 once they have tried it. But the Rooster is good to try - I don't blame you at all for being interested in it... Best Regards, FC

Do you heat up you JPW or do you use it straight out of the can? I just cast my first 45 cal 230gr RN last weekend. Your videos was much help.

@FortuneCookie45LC

10 жыл бұрын

bluegoosehead - sorry to not get back to you sooner - was out of town on business. You are referring to the practice of heating down the JPW to get the carrier out of it…45/45/10 no need. Just add the JPW straight up with the LLA. Eyeball the 10% mineral spirts, add bullets and tumble for 45 secs. Done

@bluegoosehead

10 жыл бұрын

FortuneCookie45LC thanks, i didn't heat mine and it seemed to be ok. thanks for all the info on your channel

Great information FortuneCookie45LC! Thanks!

Hey, man, you are using bullets with large grooves, so, I don't know how my methods will work. I'm casting .45 cal bullets for BPCR, WITH A seaco rig. I bought a sizing die .001" larger than the expected diameter of the mold. Just to lube, not to size. I bought the mold to cast bullets .001" over the groove dia. Still, I get rubbing on the parting lines. Okay, now, here is what I've always done, for my single shots. I pour the lube,(NRA lube works well, although, I' ve tried many obsolete recipes, until I got the NRA book on cast bullets. Duh.) I pour the lube into a pot, then after melted, I dip my bullets in, in an orderly fashion. I put maybe thirty bullets in, at a time. I then use needle nose pliers to lift them out, with the grooves filled. I place them on newsprint, to drain, and they always come out completely filled. The grooves for smokeless powder are much smaller than BP grooves. The size grooves will vary, so, so, you have to adjust the hardness of your lube, to match the rifle, or, maybe, pistol. Lubes tend to be soft for BPCR, and Scheutzen. Pistol lubes are harder. I got immediate success with my .45-70, with SPG lube. It just works, right out of the box. This is valuable, when you've spent time experimenting with lube, like I have. Many of the old ingredients go by different names now, and some, are no longer available. Like, Japan Wax, and sperm oil. Who wouldn't like to know how SPG is made? Mark

@FortuneCookie45LC

7 жыл бұрын

Mark Nelson - Your modified pan lubing technique is in the same vein that black powder bullets have been lubing for a long time by many BP shooters. As you have noted, the big deep grease grooves lend well to that. Smokeless shooters of today can definitely use lubrisizers, 45/45/10 tumble lube, LLA lube, or go with powder coating. Pan lubing of today's smokeless bullets can lead to mess and frustration. SPG is a great lube for black powder shooters...Not sure what the formulation is, but I'd just buy it... Best Regards, FC

You can use toilet ring wax, thinned with mineral spirits, instead of lee alox.

As a newbie how go I measure 45%, 10%.

You're the best on you tube!.

Ok FC, third time watching this vid. I ordered the White Label 45/45/10 and the xLox to give it a try. How's this stuff work for leading on the pretty slow 38 Special Lee 105gn SWC target loads from your other vid?

@FortuneCookie45LC

5 жыл бұрын

Edward Caco - The 45/45/10 works very well for all our standard to +P loadings. Fine for magnums as well, but I hesitate to just use 45/45/10 for my cast rifle loads - gas checks there are handy. Best to ya, FC Steve

@edwardcaco8534

5 жыл бұрын

Hey FC Steve, checking back in with a happy report from the indoor range today. Made up a batch of a couple hundred .38 SPL with a mid-load of 4.0gns Win231. Maybe 800+fps. Worked well with the Lee 105 SWC target as well as 158 RN and 158 RF - all tumbled in White Label 45/45/10 to the thin coat you show. Sized to .357 and re-tumbled and they dried non-sticky. Very pleasant to shoot with no noticeable smoke or smell and hitting point-of-aim. To best validate the test I used my new Ruger LCR fresh-out-of-the-box so I had a factory-clean bore for reference. Wow FC, almost NO leading after putting 150 through the LCR! I could barely make out some 'peanut butter' smear at the forcing cone. I put the last 50 through my old WW2 Lend-Lease S&W Victory .38 - as tired as she was, no leading. Cleaning was a breeze; I only used the brush for a quick run down the bore and the powder residue in the cylinders. Thanks from New England's Hot-Lead Zone ;-)

I wonder if I use the 45-45-10 before swaging; if the coating will flake or chip off? If "yes", then my thoughts are to coat my air-gun pellets with the 45-45-10 formula after swaging, BUT, I would much rather swage the pellets with the 45-45-10 formula before I swage the cast pellets, as I feel it will help the swaging process go more smoothly? I have also considered just coating the cast pellets with the SCJohnson Paste Wax before swaging and then using the 45-45-10 formula. I had considered using parrafin wax for the swaging process if the 45-45-10 will not remain on the pellets while swaging, but I feel it would be harder to clean off of the pellets before coating them with the 45-45-10 formula than the SCJohnsons Paste Wax...Your thoughts? Thanks FC45LC, agw.

@FortuneCookie45LC

10 жыл бұрын

AirGunWarriors - You could use the 45/45/10 before and after swaging…It's so easy and time effective…Please let me know how it goes for you...

@FortuneCookie45LC

10 жыл бұрын

AirGunWarriors - We've added color to our bullet lubes for many years just by throwing in bright color crayons. But the coating from the 45/45/10 is way too thin to get much color. If you want colorful bullets, best way is to either Epoxy or Powder Coat your cast bullets, but the work and mess is mega compared to the 45/45/10 (can't beat a total of 10 minutes spent lubing 1000 bullets). I find the "case hardened" look of 45/45/10 is a nice effect... Have a great day

Is the Johnson paste wax less sticky than Alox?? The alox seems to attract more crud in the action of my 9mm.

@FortuneCookie45LC

9 жыл бұрын

Stephen Maurer The 45/45/10 system has all the advantages of plain Alox without any of the drawbacks. Lube of bullets with minimal leading while not sticky, not dirt collecting and appearance is enhanced. Good shootin' to ya