The truest mixup character of all is random

@itsnarroblox

2 жыл бұрын

So true

@Bokokirby

2 жыл бұрын

oh hey smash bracket

@dimitridionissiou1000

2 жыл бұрын

The truest mixup is choosing random, getting Hero, and then not using your sword.

@mr_bone8

2 жыл бұрын

ay smash bracket

@hickettsisepic989

2 жыл бұрын

Tbf random is the best Gannon counter pick

Steve is definetly a Resource-Based character

@theimprovedbore550

2 жыл бұрын

olimar as well

@gabrielchee8470

2 жыл бұрын

I think it's becuz Robin is useless without resources. Solomar exists, and Steve can still fight with his basic stuff to a specific extent

@izangq

2 жыл бұрын

@@gabrielchee8470 "Solomar exists" when he can only use 4 moves. Steve moves, as you say, can be used to some extent. When he runs out of everything he loses a lot of moves. They are resource-based because the moveset is revolves around their resources

@smithclaxton3357

2 жыл бұрын

You shutting yo damn mouth is a resource-based character

@Internetuser3048

2 жыл бұрын

@@smithclaxton3357 that is literally one of the worst roasts I’ve heard all day.

For those wanting to jump between sections: 0:48 Rushdown 4:07 Hit and Run 6:18 Heavy 7:52 Tank 8:54 Mix-up 11:35 Combo 13:38 All Arounders 15:52 Footsie 17:47 Swordies 20:36 Ranged 21:57 Glass Cannons 23:25 Grounder 24:03 Grappler 26:10 Zoner 28:19 Trapper 31:47 Puppeteers 32:53 Gimmick 34:35 Resource Based 35:15 Enhancer 35:57 Stance Changers

@PhenylSSBU

2 жыл бұрын

You forgot tanks

@dgamefather

2 жыл бұрын

Oh crap, I'll update in a sec

@darienwhite6223

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget Grappler at 24:03

@chasegoblin

2 жыл бұрын

gimmick at 32:53

@dgamefather

2 жыл бұрын

@@chasegoblin Thx

Ridley is more of a swordfighter due to the fact that his entire gameplay revolves around properly spacing his tippers and commanding the space around him. At high levels Ridley rarely ever uses his Space Pirate Rush (SPR) unless it's for something like platform tech chases or very hard callouts.

@kyurei4478

2 жыл бұрын

True. Same for Mewtwo for exemple. He's more of a Ranged or Mix ups character cause the glass canon aspect isn't what defines him at his core. Sephiroth is also very light for exemple but same, it's not what defines him the most.

@ectrosvideolibrary

2 жыл бұрын

@@kyurei4478 Yep, people just know Ridley for SPR the most because it's his most infamous move. Both Mewtwo and Sephiroth are similar due to their weight and how hard they hit, people know them most for that aspect. I'm not trying to rag on the video maker, I'm just trying to put my thoughts as an actual Ridley main out there.

@kyurei4478

2 жыл бұрын

@@ectrosvideolibrary It's true that it's a good move to have. I didn't precise it but I'm a Mewtwo main myself so I can definitely tell both character play very similarly. The major differences are just that Sephiroth has an actual full disjoint and more range while Mewtwo has a better neutral and better close range options. When you look at the characters in game their first defining aspect is the spacing/zoning game. Neither do I. I think this is a lot of work put into it even tho I have to admit some character placements are totally wrong for me.

@ectrosvideolibrary

2 жыл бұрын

@@kyurei4478 Yep, gotta respect the attempt he made! I like the fact that it's hard to full categorize any character in this game.

@kyurei4478

2 жыл бұрын

@@ectrosvideolibrary For sure, good work for such a video! The team succeeded to create a lot of variety despite some similarities. Even with similar characters, they're on a different side of the spectrum (faster, stronger, slower, weaker,better neutral, better edgeguard and so on). They even succeeded to find specific archetypes for some characters. Luigi heavily relies on grabs now for exemple. Very cool!

As a dedede main I can say he’s also a trapper, a solid part of his game plan is getting gordo set ups and edge guarding with gordo and combining gordo with other attacks

@maceybeddall2478

2 жыл бұрын

yeah, haven't gotta be a dedede main to notice

@Islanders61

2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree, but I only wanted to put each character into one archetype for the sake of time, but he is completely a mix between a heavy and a trapper

@dripfoe_3307

2 жыл бұрын

@@Islanders61 I think you're confusing weight as a archetype and that's not the case. I like the attempt on the video though but you added a ton unnecessary categories.

@CookieGal-

2 жыл бұрын

@@dripfoe_3307 weight isn't the reason. a heavyweight in smash is a massive character that does extreme damage per hit, with mostly slow attacks to compensate. dedede fits that perfectly.

@artofvinsanity434

2 жыл бұрын

He's also a grappler

I'd put Lucario in the glass cannon category. I mean, it's designed to gradually excel in power when damaged, making him a character that literally trades off life power to get damage power, as glass cannons pretty much do.

@arianagrandefromfortnite

2 жыл бұрын

I would say Lucario is either glass cannon or, if you're a stickler for what a class cannon could be, then Lucario is more of an all-rounder. His gimmick is not enough to set him into a different category imo, he doesn't excell in anything, he's pretty mid when it comes to literally everything about him, he just has a unique comeback gimmick. Lucario should be glass cannon or all-rounder and Olimar should be included as a resource management archetype

@hypotheticaltapeworm

2 жыл бұрын

That's the problem with this sort of categorizing. I would consider glass cannon to be more of an attribute than an archetype. Pichu is a glass cannon, as is Pyra, but they play nothing alike. Glass cannon refers to survivability, not play style.

@yoyoguy1st

2 жыл бұрын

@@hypotheticaltapeworm How is Pyra a glass cannon? They're perfectly average in terms of weight and they're recovery isn't bad enough to a point where I could see you make the argument that they're a glass canon like say you could argue, say little mac is.

@hypotheticaltapeworm

2 жыл бұрын

@@yoyoguy1st Whatever that doesn't take away from my point. I don't know why I thought Pyra and Mythra were much lighter than they actually are, but my point is that glass cannons don't all play alike. It's inaccurate to call it an archetype, since everyone in it would overlap with other play styles.

@Dc-pm2hi

2 жыл бұрын

Bro your just wrong. Glass cannon means a character is very strong when it comes to damage output yet they do so easily. Pichu would be a perfect example, his damage and combo game is insane but he does so so early from anything. Lucina is just a swordie.

Ridley main here. You are not wrong when you say that he's hard to categorize. You decided to say he's a grappler and that's probably true at lower levels of play where SPR is more useful. Aside from his command grab (which is one of the slowest in the game) he has 1 good throw which is a combo throw. His forward and back throws don't kill or combo and the best thing his up throw does is set up for a tech chase on tri-plats. So if he isn't a grappler what would I categorize him as? A glass cannon maybe? Because of his size to weight. I would say no his attributes aren't extreme enough. A swordie? Even though he doesn't use a sword he still spends large portions of the match looking for correct spacing. Rushdown? This is a good place for him he is looking to be aggressive the whole match and do his absolute hardest not to be in disadvantage or neutral. Combo? This one also fits because he has a few select moves to start combos. Sour spot of down tilt, N-air, up tilt etc. Personally I would put him as a bait and punish character who wants to see what the opponent likes to do and then cover those options with short combos, brutal smash attacks or even a risky skewer. He's a very strange character and no one knows what to do with him so I don't blame you for not getting him exactly right, good on you for knowing how strange he is to judge

@mcmcribblit9603

2 жыл бұрын

I'd categorize him as a "Fun" character tho lol

@andymcclurg9916

2 жыл бұрын

@@mcmcribblit9603 Me too, I just wish his moves were more satisfying. Forward and Down air in particular feel really wimpy, and he has such an obvious Down Air candidate that I'm honestly surprised Sora Ltd neglected it. But I honestly adore moves like Up Air for the pose and power, SPR for the reference, creativity, and utility within his kit, F Smash for its strength, F and D tilts for their range, and Skewer for the sheer brutality.

@mcmcribblit9603

2 жыл бұрын

@@andymcclurg9916 F-air is actually one of my favorite moves though. You can use it from down throw at low to mid percent and get nice 25-30% string or you can use FF and use it to go into a rapid jab or f-tilt (if your spacing is good you can sweet spot it) but I agree d-air is all but pointless. Only time I use it cuz if I get it high into the blast zone to get lower quicker. Idk I love hitting down throw and hitting 3 f-airs to carry someone offstage, especially if they're DI'ing in, your almost guaranteed a stock

@Clownbelt-u2s

2 жыл бұрын

I'd say if no specific play style can be defined, no matter how general or specific, the character should be defined as unorthodox. They just... do their own thing.

@yoyoguy1st

2 жыл бұрын

Ridley is a heavy. Like yeah I get it he's not that "heavy" but he plays like a character in the heavy archetype, heavy refers to the archetype not their literal weight.

Traditional fighting has around 8 archetypes, it's cool to see smash have categories of their own.

@suspecthalo

Жыл бұрын

The main issue is that these sub-divisions also exist in other games, but for general play style isn’t differentiated. A very good example is the classifying trapper and zoner as 2 separate categories as their gameplan is the same. In traditional fighters both are classified as zoners, but you’d save the traps vs. projectiles as a character specific variation. Another example is grounder. Why is it its own archetype with 1 character when it’s just rush-down with the poor recovery being a character specific difference?

Timestamps with the Characters: 0:48 Rushdown (Fox, Pikachu, Captain Falcon, Sheik, Roy, Zero Suit Samus, Mii Brawler & Joker) 4:07 Hit and Run (Jigglypuff, Meta Knight, Sonic, Wii Fit Trainer & Inkling) 6:18 Heavy (Ganondorf & King Dedede) 7:52 Tank (Bowser & King K. Rool) 8:54 Mix-Up (Ness, Lucas, R.O.B., Wolf, Palutena & Steve) 11:35 Combo (Peach, Daisy, Falco, Wario & Bayonetta) 13:38 All Arounders (Mario, Yoshi, Kirby, Dr. Mario, Pit & Dark Pit) 15:52 Footsie (Diddy Kong, Greninja, Ryu, Ken, Terry & Kazuya) 17:47 Swordfighter (Marth, Lucina, Chrom, Ike, Mii Swordfighter, Cloud, Corrin & Byleth) 20:36 Ranged (Min Min & Sephiroth) 21:57 Glass Cannons (Pichu, Mewtwo, Mr. Game & Watch & Sora) 23:25 Grounder (Little Mac) 24:03 Grappler (Donkey Kong, Luigi, Ridley & Incineroar) 26:10 Zoner (Link, Samus, Dark Samus, Young Link, Toon Link, Villager, Mega Man, Mii Gunner & Banjo-Kazooie) 28:19 Trapper (Zelda, Snake, Pac-Man, Bowser Jr., Duck-Hunt, Simon, Richter, Isabelle & Piranha Plant) 31:47 Puppeteers (Ice Climbers and Rosalina & Luma) 32:53 Gimmick (Olimar & Lucario) 34:35 Resource Based (Robin) 35:15 Enhancer (Hero) 35:57 Stance Changers (Pokémon Trainer [with Squirtle, Ivysaur and Charizard], Shulk & The Aegis [Pyra / Mythra]) Which one of the Archetipes Sora fits in? (I Want to Update it when the answer is solve)

@shadamyandsonamylover

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe combo? I was thinking that myself. I’m a sonic main, and it took me awhile to figure out how to play well against sora. Sora has an amazing air game, sword game, recovery, and he’s not super slow or super heavy. That or mix-up I would guess.

@theslightlysaltysalad1460

2 жыл бұрын

tysm for putting the characters next to the sections it was very helpful ^_^

@CoraCreates

2 жыл бұрын

He didn’t talk about sora in glass cannons…? Edit:nvm I see. Though I bet he’s a mix of swordie and glass cannon

@OtherRonanV262003

Жыл бұрын

I would say sora is a more combo then glass cannon bcuz his ladder combos

@yeetusdeletus5714

Жыл бұрын

Sora is a combo swordie but i cant tell which he fits better in. He has some decently complex combos but he also plays around his range and still has to space his attacks even without sour spots

Why does Mac get his own archetype called grounder when that's essentially just a footsies character anyway?

@jspantonio8807

2 жыл бұрын

bc he literally cant do anything in the air

@Nokyyyyy

2 жыл бұрын

Rushdown footsie who suck in the air

@aetherius6221

2 жыл бұрын

Mac isn't defined by his ability to space and string complex canceling combos together, he's defined by his ability to win by mashing while grounded and aerials that are just unbelievably terrible. His gameplan isn't bob, weave and touch of death, it's sit on the floor and charge f-smash

@micahfurlow2624

2 жыл бұрын

isn't he just a glass cannon anyways?

@dyldragon1

2 жыл бұрын

@@aetherius6221 Firstly, I don't think cancels are intrinsic to being a character centered around footsies. There's an agreement that Kazuya fits within this archetype and he doesn't have special cancels like the shotos and Terry. But also, when you watch a really good Little Mac play, the primary gameplan definitely doesn't revolve around charging F-Smash and camping. It's using his incredible ground speed to make opponents whiff aerials and punishing. Then once they stay on the ground, he pressures with his crazy tilts or counter-punches with his armored smash attacks.

17:14 Diddy's great air speed? He has bottom 10 air speed in the game lol

@LiamWins

2 жыл бұрын

I think he means when using monkey flip (and rocket barrels?)

@fiercelion235arih9

2 жыл бұрын

Normally diddy does not but if you look up pro diddy Kong movement it’s insane. By combining monkey flip with popgun glitch diddy has some of the best air movement in the game

As a puff main, she is 100% not a hit and run character. Player her as a hit and run character ensures you are playing her as a bottom 10 character. She is more of a glass cannon in the sense that you can carry most characters offstage after a single opening or convert a mistake by your opponent into a rest.

@Mike-di3mo

25 күн бұрын

I think puff and kirby are rushdown character's because they might not befast but they relie on getting near the opponent and overwhelming them.

I noticed that all the mixup characters also have moves to handle projectiles Magnet for ness & lucas Rob's side B (can reflect) Reflector for wolf and palutena, And steve's blocks, I guess (this might be a stretch.)

@SkittleJawnz

2 жыл бұрын

Steve's blocks are definitely not a stretch in your argument. I would actually say that his blocks are the single most defining quality he has as a mix-up, since the creativity of the user can force the opponent to have to react to the block layout.

I like this video a lot! Thank you. I think knowing strengths and weaknesses of character archetypes would perfect the video

As a fan of both taxonomy and smash, I have to say this is an extremely well done video. Ty for the work put into this

You need to research how each character is played more, these archetypes are very primitive they oversimplify and also mis identity a lot of characters. Bowser is not the type of character he is due to having tough guy, nor is he comparable to krool Captain falcon is not a rush down character given your definition, he is played mostly bait and punish and he can barely pressure shield so not really a pressure monster. He just has really good burst options. But I will concede that it is hard to accurately do a video like this

@vaar8584

2 жыл бұрын

For kkrool I would say he is a either zoner or trapper since his projectiles do stay out a while, while Bowser is more so a grappler since you often see him either comboing out of up throw or comboing into side b. And as far as captain falcon, I would just make a separate category called hype. He might be between a rush down and a hit and run, but all his moves are so flashy and I feel like he honestly deserves his own category. Oh, and now that Sora has come out I would reckon he is a hit and run, but that might just be my experience against him

@medom3710

2 жыл бұрын

The problem is that he is making it sound like the things he is saying are facts

@almosender2273

2 жыл бұрын

Imo Cpt. Falcon ist pretty much a rush down character

@Nokyyyyy

2 жыл бұрын

King K. Rool could be a mixup too, by his definition He has good projectiles that force the opponent to attack him Bowser is kinda a all rounded grappler, I guess ? Steve is a ressource-based trapper

@fxviridis

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree. I didn't agree with a whole lot of the content but it looks like a ton of effort was put in and I wouldn't want to undermine that

I definitely agree that a lot of these characters could fit into at least two different archetypes, like Dedede could be a Heavy and a Trapper for example.

I wouldn't divide the cast into quite so many categories. For instance, I really don't differentiate between ranged and zoners or tanks and heavies, but at least with the latter you do have the super armor gimmicks. Still, excellent video. I watched every minute of it and I enjoyed it. Very informative, thought out, and well presented.

I’ve been playing smash my entire life and this video was so beneficial and I learned so much! Thanks for the time and effort you put in

Smash videos like this are always so great. The discussion in the comments is always so informative

I like your representation of steve being a mix up character. The only thing I noticed is that you say steve likes to spam minecart. While not necessarily wrong, using minecart uses iron, and iron is difficult to collect, so I wouldn’t say spam. It’s certainly a good move, nonetheless.

@themarioking7127

2 жыл бұрын

You probably don't know how happy it makes me to find a Steve lacking and using air blocks instead.

came across this gem of a channel, your in depth and well spoken presentation is absolutely phenomenal, can't wait to see more

I am so happy this got randomly recommended to me. Love this video

I believe that Sora would fit in the "Glass Cannon" category.

@Flame-vp7cx

2 жыл бұрын

Glass cannon and combo based character?

@iknowwhereyoulive618

2 жыл бұрын

he isnt very cannon-y tbh

@ivrydice0954

2 жыл бұрын

@@iknowwhereyoulive618 Depends on how you define cannon Sora can do a lot of damage which could make you see him as a Cannon.

@iknowwhereyoulive618

2 жыл бұрын

@@ivrydice0954 glass cannon is a very loose archetype. he fits into pretty traditional swordie play, but floaty. he isnt as fast as the other glass cannons, aside from game and watch, who's more focused on defensive play than any of the others. he doesn't have the wtf factor of stuff like shadow ball, disable, rest, bucket, gnw up b or everything chrom does. he kinda does normal swordie things, but with puff movement. while i think he fits the glass cannon label, i think he has less cannon than the others and just plays solid neutral. or at least he's designed that way, however probably unintentional new combo routes have given him some crazy high damage combos, early kill confirms and an infinite, so yeah he has the cannon. just doesn't feel like one at all.

@Flame-vp7cx

2 жыл бұрын

@@iknowwhereyoulive618 Yeah you're right, he still takes some hits before dying

This video is so good and informative!! Thanks. Also amazing usage of Mother 3 OST

Great video, I have been wondering this for a long time but didn't have the know how to figure it out myself

Hey there, this is a great video, thanks for putting your time in - it's much appreciated. I am undecided on a main and this video will help.

I've been wanting this type of video for a long time coming. Underrated as hell!

Such a good KZreadr needs more subs

This was such a great video and helps me out a lot. Thx

Sheesh, going from top player gameplay to watching average gameplay is huge whiplash. Players just running off the ledge then getting themselves SD'd is way more representative of the real game.

Nice editing! Love the content

Even though most of the footage was both of you not knowing how to play the character, I respect the hustle and I appreciate the attempt.

I definitely feel like zss is definitely hit and run or mix up. She doesn't rush down as much as she just carefully wins neutral and punishes opponents if you can get an easy read (nair flip kicks, down smash, deep edgeguards etc)

Great video man, this is a video I will show every time my friends or someone says all swordies are the same 😂

This is actually a really good and detailed video, sucks that you don't have more subs but if you keep making good content I think you'll do really well

@hehefunny3467

2 жыл бұрын

It's nice to see a fairly well researched vid but the gameplay is kinda dogwater maybe use tourney vods, I know it's alot of editing but it would make your points clearer. Good vid hope ur channel grows

Watching the video and enjoying it. I'm glad to see more discussion videos on this topic. I don't think there can ever be a definitive list of this sort, but therein is the fun. As you stated at the very beginning, most characters can be utilized in such different ways that characters can come across as several archetypes. I'd love a follow up to this with potentially a few guests to play devil's advocate. That would be a longform podcast I'd listen to over and over. Also, where would you place Sora? Happy holidays!

@Islanders61

2 жыл бұрын

I would say he is a mix between the sword and hit and run archetypes. He does need to worry about carefully spacing his moves with his key blade sword, but he also has that flatness and great mobility that allows him to run away really well after getting a hit or doing a combo.

Your content is awesome. Keep it up bro

Just in case you need something specific: 0:00 Intro 0:51 Rushdown 4:10 Hit and Run 6:21 Heavy 7:55 Tank 8:55 Mix-Up 11:37 Combo 13:43 All Rounders 15:53 Footsie 17:53 Swordies 20:41 Ranged 21:59 Glass Cannons 23:28 Grounders 24:05 Grappler 26:12 Zoner 28:21 Trapper 31:50 Puppeteers 32:56 Gimmick 34:40 Resource Based 35:17 Enhancer 35:58 Stance Changers 37:31 Conclusion

These clips are hilarious. Only a few minutes in and both Falcon and Sonic just straight up SD.

As a rangers fan I didn’t expect to see another hockey fan as a competitive smash fan let alone someone who knows a ton! I’m glad I came across this channel!

@bobber1165

2 жыл бұрын

Sup here, Preds fan and competitive player also

@Islanders61

2 жыл бұрын

Do we think we are the only 3 hockey and smash fans in the world? Hahaha

Great video!

Things I've learned from this video: - Kazuya is a footsies based character. Just ask Tekken players - Wolf and Palutena is in the same archetype as f*cking Steve - Greninja is in the same Archetype as the Shotos - Pokemon Trainer is a stance character I guess - Joker has to approach. Beat that MKLeo! - The Ranged Category is not the same as the Zoning category I've learned so much :)

@meteor3920

2 жыл бұрын

Forgot that Pyra/Mythra is apparently one of the hardest characters in the game

@laffy7204

2 жыл бұрын

@@meteor3920 Damn, you're right It takes so much effort to learn to switch from sword Shiek to Ike with better nair and projectile. So hard to master it took me an entire half of hour to learn them

@peterduprey7286

2 жыл бұрын

I hope you also learned that Mii brawler is the sickest character of all time.

@laffy7204

2 жыл бұрын

@@peterduprey7286 Who, better Fox?

@JacobPDeIiNoNi

2 жыл бұрын

@@laffy7204 OK Pyra/mythra is very easy, but there's no way Mythra nair is better than Ike nair. while yes it does kill on its own, which makes it better rising, Ike nair is still great for killing since it confirms into lots of stuff, and it's also way safer.

beautiful video buddy, thank you

This is a very interesting and helpful video for newcomers to fighting games despite the fact that there is some character placements I absolutely don't agree with and I feel like you wanted to categorize too much thus some archetypalizations become pretty much useless and could be summed up in another larger archetype. But great job overall.

This vid's definitely going into the Cool folder. Really interesting subject and sweet execution, bro. If you ever make a follow-up, I'd love for you to talk about all the characters that are fusions of archetypes.

@Dr.juiceboxtv

2 жыл бұрын

That's the only thing that felt missing, but I can understand why you didn't want to add that to this already chunky video

Nice music choice 👍

This vid is great. Just wanted to say that :)

I think your definition of trapper could definitely include Yink and especially Big Link, since they're both able to have multiple projectiles out at once similar to Simon and Richter. But I do think of them as zoners as well, so either way

Excellent stuff dood! I am Smash Noob. I've gone from trying to main Link , to trying to main Lucina. Then secondary Cloud or Shulk. It appears that I like characters with swords xD xD

This is a great video how does this guy only have 602 subscribers? Sorry 603 now.

Keep doing video like these

"Unlike zoners, these projectiles are not the main aspects of their gameplan" *Ness, spamming PK fire*

@franciscomendez8314

2 жыл бұрын

Ya if your gsp is at 1 million. The pk fire joke is getting old.

@disgustof-riley8338

2 жыл бұрын

Because that's low level play

I think incineroar is built to be a grappler specifically according to Mr Sakurai. Idk if any other character is built similarly.

@BJGvideos

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the original video even compared Incin to Zangief (the "something of a Red Cyclone" line) so it's pretty clear

I do think it would have been better if you just used the main archetypes. Most people in the smash community don’t really use some of the terms in this video. I think a good list would have been Rushdown Zoner: includes ranged and trappers, as well as Steve Heavy: includes tanks All Around Glass Canon: includes lucario Shoto (fighting game characters) Swordie: Includes Hero The reason I saw this is because one, a lot of the categories in this video are unused when talking about smash, two is that having that many categories complicates the video and puts characters in sub categories that are basically a modified version of another/and or are just not really a category (combo [yes they have a much better combo game then most, most combo characters play differently then each other by a lot actually], grounded [Mac is more of a glass canon because he is powerful on the ground like you said, but is weak in the air and dies early], gimmick [lucario fits glass canon because he needs to be at higher percentage to do more damage, hero is more of a swordie/zoner because of his abundance of projectiles and the need to be spaced away from his opponent].

You deserve more subs

Very high quality video

I decided to figure out the average tier placement for each archetype, where S is 7, A+ is 6, A is 5, B is 4, C is 3, D is 2, and E is 1. Here's how it ended up: Stance Changers: A+ Rushdown: A+ Mix-Up: A+ Ranged: A+ Combo: A Footsies: A Hit and Run: B Swordies: B Glass cannons: B Enhancers: B Zoners: B Puppeteers: B Tank: C All-arounders: C Trappers: C Resource Based: C Grappler: C Heavy: D Grounders: E

Here are all the archetypes in roster order. All-Rounder: Mario, Yoshi, Kirby, Dr. Mario, and Pit/Dark Pit Grappler: Donkey Kong, Luigi, Ridley, and Incineroar Zoner: Link, Samus/Dark Samus, Young Link, Toon Link, Villager, Mega Man, Mii Gunner, and Banjo-Kazooie Rushdown: Fox, Pikachu, Captain Falcon, Sheik, Roy, Zero Suit Samus, Mii Brawler, and Joker Mix-Up: Ness, Lucas, ROB, Wolf, Palutena, and Steve Hit and Run: Jigglypuff, Meta Knight, Sonic, Wii Fit Trainer, and Inkling Combo: Peach/Daisy, Falco, Wario, Bayonetta, and Sora (IMO) Trapper: Zelda, Snake, Pac-Man, Duck Hunt, Bowser Jr., Simon/Richter, Isabelle, and Piranha Plant Puppeteer: Ice Climbers and Rosalina Tank: Bowser and K. Rool Glass Cannon: Pichu, Mewtwo, and Mr. Game and Watch Swordie: Marth/Lucina, Chrom, Ike, Mii Swordfighter, Cloud, Corrin, and Byleth Heavy: Ganondorf and Dedede Stance: Pokemon Trainer, Shulk, and Pyra/Mythra Footsie: Diddy Kong, Greninja, Ryu/Ken, Terry, and Kazuya Gimmick: Olimar and Lucario Grounder: Little Mac Resource-Based: Robin Enhancer: Hero Ranged: Min-Min and Sephiroth

@craftymasterproductions4218

2 жыл бұрын

How is Ridley a grappler?

@weirdguy1495

2 жыл бұрын

@@craftymasterproductions4218 Don't ask me, ask the uploader.

@tsoprano4891

2 жыл бұрын

Where’s zss?

@weirdguy1495

2 жыл бұрын

@@tsoprano4891 Missed one, thanks.

I'm an Inkling main. I wouldn't say she's necessarily a hit and run character. Although getting a hit and waiting for an opening is big in Inkling's neutral, I think she's more of combination of a combo and resource based character. Ink is an extremely useful resource that is almost a necessity Inkling's kit. Without her ink, it would be a lot harder for her to kill or even deal damage. Roller can't be used without ink and that's pretty much the only way for her to kill. Also if her ink is out, her damage output abysmal. She's kind of like Shiek only with shorter hitboxes. That's why she has to manage her ink so much in a game. You have to keep track of the ink meter in order to do jabs, splat bombs, roller, and every smash attack. Inkling also has an amazing aerial game that can take a character across the stage for a kill. U-tilt can lead into nair chains across stage to the blast zone, which can then be finished off into a fair. She's a lot like Wario in this case. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

dope video!

Why is nobody talking about how this guy just explained how to use every character in the game.

@arianagrandefromfortnite

2 жыл бұрын

Because that's the point of the video that we all just spent 40 mins watching, why would any of us be surprised by this fact?

@adrianpr1501

2 жыл бұрын

@@arianagrandefromfortnite did I say the word "Surprised" in any part of my comment?

I'm still very new to trying to play this game properly, and I had no idea there were all these Archetypes but as I watch this it's funny to see how I clearly had preferences because all of the characters I've grown to like fit into only 2 of these

Banjo is a trapper / zoner / brawler / mixups with his dlc move breegal blaster .

35:18 Shulk: I feel so out of place here.(can't transform) Pokemon trainer: Same here.(not Xenoblade character)

@palpastrikead3037

2 жыл бұрын

Shulk is absolutely a stance changer, his entire gameplan changes on a dime depending on his art, (with speed he tries to close the gap between his opponent, it’s mostly used in zoner mus where his range won’t give him much benefit, buster for when he is in his optimal range where he’s able to hit his moves with little to no risk, smash for closing stocks (very risky at high %s) which forces the opponent to respect his range even more in hopes of both not getting hit and timing out the art, shield for escaping combos and minimizing damage (especially in last hit scenarios, notice how he becomes a glass cannon with smash art but a heavy that relies on trying to get the opponent in worse positioning while still in the art) and jump for mostly recovering, but I’ve seen the art used for edgegarding and juggling in very rare situations. Lastly you don’t need to be a xenoblade character to be a stance character, this archetype has the potential to exist in every fighting game not just the one with xenoblade reps.

@peanutbutnovember1237

2 жыл бұрын

@@palpastrikead3037 you are such a loser dude it was a joke

Sonic may be a Hit & Run character in official Smash but when it comes to the Mods & Fan Games he's the Rushdown character that he should've been since Brawl

This is a great video. I’m a Mii Brawler and Mewtwo guy myself. If I had to pick a third, Bowser or Hero.

@librathebeautifulwarmonk1283

2 жыл бұрын

I'm a Chrom and Incineraor guy with Mewtwo as a secondary

I feel like too many fighters fit into multiple categories. Ridley could easily be considered a swordie or rushdown, Steve, Hero, and Inkling are definitely resource-based characters, Olimar could be considered a puppeteer, etc.

Yooooo educated Mario got destroyer like let up... He's bad but not that bad Great vid, u got a sub from me

Megaman is more like a Ranged like Min Min and Sephiroth than a zoner IMO. He simply isn’t very dangerous at a distance, and does actually want you to get close on his terms, ie where he can use very fast killing moves like uptilt, downsmash and uptilt.

I know that this video is fairly recent, and you did a fairly decent job talking about this, I think there are quite a few oversights that you've made simply because you don't main EVERY SINGLE character. An updated version could be nice

Everyone: Gets a Proper Architype that (more or less) fits them Dr. Mario: He's sucks, lol.

While botw link definitely makes very good use of his projectiles, he uses them more for setting up kill confirms (unless you're playing on elite smash, where he camps harder than a Sonic player), so even though zoner fits, he fits really well into the trapper and swordie archetypes.

What an interesting Video! It's Perfect for Rookies... Why isn't popular?

As a Kirby main, you’re right! I’d say his secondary category is rushdown, or at least that’s how I play him.

@PhantomAkira5

2 жыл бұрын

Same! His combo game pretty much eats heavy weights for breakfast

the music for little macs segment is really funny

In summary: LEEROY JENKINS! Now you see me, now you don't. I hit you three times, why are you still alive? You hit me? That's cute. Now DIE! What should I do now? Happy feet! Wombo-Combo! Jack of all trades, master of none. I like to move it, move it! En-guard! Yes, I hit you with a melee attack from another planet. If I hit you, I win. If you hit me, you win. Personally, I prefer the ground! Nice shield, you got there. INTENSIFY THE FORWARD FIREPOWER! A new DM building their first dungeon for the party. Master of puppets, I'm pulling your strings, twisting your mind and smashing your dreams. Imagine being normal. This meme posted by the Gimmick Gang. Shopping list. Temporary level up. Buy one, get one free.

Love the Mother Music

Rushdown: Joker 2:24, Roy 3:42 Mix-up: Lucas 10:07 Combo: Bayonetta 11:46, Falco 12:42 All-Arounder: Mario 14:00, Kirby 15:08, Dark Pit 15:30 Footsie: Greninja 16:19 Swordie: Cloud 19:13, Byleth 20:14 Zoner: Link 28:00, Toon Link, 28:11 Trapper: Zelda 29:54, Richter 30:58 Puppeteer: Rosalina & Luma 32:35 Stance Changers: Pyra/Mythra 37:02

The stance changers is my favorite archetype

I feel like the most honest appraisal of character archetypes in smash would look more like a venn diagram than a categorized list. So many characters, in my mind, functionally meet the full criteria of more than one archetype

im an inkling main, i wouldnt really call inkling a hit and run character. while you can play that way, you shouldnt be using inkling dash dance to run away, but rather to find openings and be unpredictable. inkling has some crazy combos too. i would call inkling more of a mix-up/combo character

Steve is definitely a resource based character lol

18:10 rosalyna's observatory song, really a nice thing to remember

This is a realy high quality vid then i checked your subs why dont you have that many guess you have one more now

I'm a sonic main, and I use him as a rush down fighter and it works out pretty well.

I feel like characters like Olimar and Steve fit into a resource management archetype

with your own definition of resource character, steve fits there better than in the mix ups

Joker is more bait and punish since his approach options are ok but his spacing with gun and Eiha are great

Honestly, as a Pacman main, I see that he can be used in a lot of different ways, each with their own benefit. For example, his side special, Power Pellet, makes him approach the opponent easily and then Pacman can do a simple A move to damage them. His projectiles keep opponents at bay and, along with his amazing recovery, I use him to punish opponents mid-air. The up special can be used for some kind of trap also, which is his (probably) best known about. His combos are relatively good too. That really shows how versatile he is

Thanks! Is there a rock/paper/scissors list when it comes to types? I feel I change my style up based on how I feel it’s going and it would be good to know where the matchups stand.

As a Byleth main, I feel like he/she fits better in the ranged category

Steve is so odd that he can at min be classified as a resource character, an enhancer (wep upgrades) and a gimmick (through the versatility of blocks). I feel like he could likely fit in two or three more

@CEOofCunnySlurper

Жыл бұрын

Steve can be a mixup (zoner when mining, become combo character when prepared), a trapper (tnt and anvil shieldbreaking, backthrow spike, minecart), an enchanter (weapon upgrades and powered minecart), a gimmick (his block alone have more teches than most characters), and a resource character (for obvious reason). 5 archetypes in 1 character lol 😂

Ics is more of a combo character Their neutral revolves around squall, blizzblocking and blizzwalling, and abusing those to do insane combos Their disadvantage is shit but their advantage leads into insane 0-deaths And sure, grabbing is a part of neutral, but their neutral revolves around walling out zoners and being able to get the hit to lead to the combo, not the grab itself

@aaDryBones

2 жыл бұрын

i think iceies, rose, and olimar are all puppeteers

@aaDryBones

2 жыл бұрын

im guessing your and ice climber main?

@vod7280

2 жыл бұрын

@@aaDryBones oh nah i play everyone except duck hunt Ics is a char ive been working on

It's worth mentioning that, in a lot of cases, characters are more so hybrids of multiple archetypes rather than just being one archetype. This is best seen with characters such as Roy (who'd best be described as a hybrid between the sword fighter and rushdown archetypes), Ridley (who's a hybrid between Sword Fighter, Heavy weight, and Grappler), and Steve (who's a hybrid between Mixup, Trapper, Resource based, and Gimmick character). There are obviously characters who fully embody an archetype to a fault, but in most cases, characters are a mix of many different archetypes which heavily influence their playstyle

I main incineroar as well as snake. I don’t usually set up combos with grabs and I don’t rely on that remote controlled rocket to trap or zone

I think that on a top level, Samus and Olimar are Mixup characters

Top teir gameplay

Me, a Dr Mario Main 14:42 And I took that to heart

Robin getting his own section warms my heart. Wish he was buffed.